Things Still Needing Attention On This Server

[heartbrand]

Listen, I think we can all agree that global ooc saved this server from having <30 pop at nights, so thank you Lord Rogean for that, even if it came very late. Having said that, there's still shit that needs to be addressed on this server. In no particular order here we go:

Resists: Player base continues to say they don't want a special custom resist system, they want classic. For a server that's built upon being classic, this one is just mind boggling to me. The evidence of what classic was has been documented all over these boards, it's not an issue of can the devs make it classic, it's an issue of they don't want it to be classic.

EXP: Still needs a boost. Day in and day out I see newbies, give them items and plat to help them, never see them again / hear them rage quit in OOC cuz of exp. There's just not enough lowbie pop to have healthy groups, so EXP boost is needed, as a temporary crutch perhaps, to assist them. Get people to the higher levels as fast as possible, 35+, create hot zones, do whatever it takes. This is probably the biggest issue right now. 50's who create alts don't care because they twink and use their guildies to powerlevel. Please address this.

Hybrid Penalty: It's still a joke that groups are penalized for being social. Please remove this penalty from group settings, and at the very least, consider removing hybrid penalties.

Faster Content Release: Classic is boring. This is supposed to be an advanced progression server. Somehow it's slower than blue now. There are tons of people on the sidelines waiting to make iksar necros / monks, etc. There's more stuff to camp, more stuff to do. We need more content desperately.

Yellow Text: Global OOC really calmed down on a lot of the forum BS, because people just do their trash talking in game now. Yellow Text will further cut down on it because what can you possibly say when ur name repeatedly ends upon the right side of the text? (lookin at you mellowyellow) It's exciting, encourages e-peen and PVP, it prevents griefing because it alerts people that pvp is taking place and makes others want to get involved, and oh by the way, every freaking poll for yellow text has had massive support 80%+.

Boxing: Time to reconsider the server policy on boxing. I get why people don't want it on blue, but we should accept the fact that red is different from blue for a variety of reasons and that the issues with boxing on blue don't apply to red. Can we please have a discussion on this?

Server Rules: Still no clear outlined server rules.


Thanks for reading, keep it civil boys.

[Lazortag]

Yellow Text: Global OOC really calmed down on a lot of the forum BS, because people just do their trash talking in game now. Yellow Text will further cut down on it because what can you possibly say when ur name repeatedly ends upon the right side of the text? (lookin at you mellowyellow) It's exciting, encourages e-peen and PVP, it prevents griefing because it alerts people that pvp is taking place and makes others want to get involved, and oh by the way, every freaking poll for yellow text has had massive support 80%+.

Here's another issue that needs attention: players having absolutely no clue what's good for the server and ignoring any opinions that contradict their own. I can't even count how many times I've been trolled into writing a long well-thought out post thoroughly explaining why yellow text is bad, only to be met with a response to the effect of, "lol gay". It has minimal benefits but creates massive harms for the server. Stop acting like you will save the server by giving people global recognition every time they kill someone. They can do that in ooc already if they want to.


Boxing: Time to reconsider the server policy on boxing. I get why people don't want it on blue, but we should accept the fact that red is different from blue for a variety of reasons and that the issues with boxing on blue don't apply to red. Can we please have a discussion on this?

Boxing is even worse on a red server, and the advantages you derive from doing it are much greater. Plus if it were allowed you'd have to unban everyone who was banned for it, and I think we'd all prefer that Fallen stay banned :)


EXP: Still needs a boost. Day in and day out I see newbies, give them items and plat to help them, never see them again / hear them rage quit in OOC cuz of exp. There's just not enough lowbie pop to have healthy groups, so EXP boost is needed, as a temporary crutch perhaps, to assist them. Get people to the higher levels as fast as possible, 35+, create hot zones, do whatever it takes. This is probably the biggest issue right now. 50's who create alts don't care because they twink and use their guildies to powerlevel. Please address this.

Any significant exp boost has to be temporary, or else anyone who grinded to 50 under normal exp rates will feel they wasted their time. I actually think it would be a great idea to advertise a one month exp boost (2x exp from what we have now? More? I dunno) to get more players rolling on the server.

[Greegon]

I actually think it would be a great idea to advertise a one month exp boost (2x exp from what we have now? More? I dunno) to get more players rolling on the server.

bahahah lll take that shit for sure

[heartbrand]

80%+ of people in the YT polls have said they wanted. I get it, you don't, but the vast majority of everyone else does. Accept that in this case you are in a small minority and move on.

Boxing will create more PVP targets, something desperately needed on this server, allow smaller guilds to compete where they couldn't previously, allow people to play that melee they want with a healer so it's viable, allow people to kill content they can't solo so they don't just log off bored in the afternoon cuz no one on to do something with, etc., etc.

As far as exp, I think I said in the post I agreed it would be a temporary boost.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Disagree with all your points except hybrid penalty should apply to the individual only, and the "accelerated" timeline progression needs to be accelerated.

Too many people just lost interest in the old content and stopped logging in. Should already have plane of sky and kunark should be around the corner already.

You hate the custom resists because you want your ogre warrior to be 100 percent immune to all spells. No, its bad for class balance and server long term health.

Null knows what he is doing, stop trolling him into "fixing" what is not broken. The resist system as it is now is good and lets all the classes have a roll in pvp beyond "oh im a enchanter, i.e. a golem wand with a casting time".

[heartbrand]

lol @ how you go you disagree with all my points then proceed to agree with half of them

[heartbrand]

Side point, this resist system that you malign, has worked for 14 years on EQ Live, on servers with exponentially higher pop than this one. If this server is now a custom server and not a classic one, there's plenty of other things we can talk about changing, why keep it to resists?

[Callnoutthenewbs]

I find it hard to read or listen too this heartband fag when all i can think is hes the one making QQ quit threads about how bad the server is and hes quiting

But you see the same fag making threads like these is he semi a retard? has split personalty?

[Tr0llb0rn]

Side point, this resist system that you malign, has worked for 14 years on EQ Live, on servers with exponentially higher pop than this one. If this server is now a custom server and not a classic one, there's plenty of other things we can talk about changing, why keep it to resists?

no it did not, there was just no other options.

did you even play red back then? I did, the classes were retardedly imbalanced and it only got worse each expansion.

Null's genius custom resist system here means everyone , all classes, keep a fulfulling role in group pvp with several avenues at their disposal.

You just want your ogre warrior to be immune to spells. I suggest you play baulders gate with a cheat mode enabled.

[heartbrand]

You just want custom EQ, this is Classic EQ, I suggest you go play ezserver

btw: checkraise undefeated through day 4 of Naggy Wars

[Bardalicious]

Side point, this resist system that you malign, has worked for 14 years on EQ Live, on servers with exponentially higher pop than this one. If this server is now a custom server and not a classic one, there's plenty of other things we can talk about changing, why keep it to resists?

Resistances that worked for 14 years straight huh? There hasn't been any change in the resistance formulas, the resist modifiers on spells etc? It all just magically worked for those 14 years and they should copy-n-paste the code over right?

Casters have always had an advantage in PVP. That advantage is slowly mitigated as melee become better equipped, especially with gear that will come with Kunark and Velious. While melee gain better weapons and armor, their damage output goes up. When casters gain better weapon and armor, they get to cast more spells. Which doesn't matter if everyone with 80+ MR can resist 75% of your spells.

I agree with xp needing some sort of a boost until the population stabilizes, however your valid point(s) are dwarfed by idiotic statements like boxing having less impact on a red server (rofl? red is blue with pvp dynamic ADDED. how can a server with the same PVE system be affected less when it has an entirely new level of play added?). And as for resistances? I find it funny how you guys cite vanilla EQ in one breath as an excuse but cry for global ooc and yellow text in the next. It's not that hard to interpret your points as cotton-picking for self-benefit.

[Harr1son]

B00m

[heartbrand]

Let's see, yellow text and ooc which do not affect game mechanics in any way / custom resists. Yes, clearly analogous.

[Dacuk]

The issue that I see with this server is a lack of creativity to spark pop. While there is a lot of controversy around some of the ideas that HB posted, I think that the best way to find out the impact of them is to give em a shot.

Yellow text? lets try it.. if it sucks and causes excessive grief like the naysayers believe it will, it should be easy to get rid of.

XP boost? Lets try it for a month.. if it doesnt boost pop, then get rid of it.

All of these things are absolutely feasible on a trial basis, however the challenge is that they require dev/gm engagement throughout the process, and unfortunately, it seems the staff has a lot going on that may preclude this from happening. Rogean I'm sure can offer his thoughts to help clarify his perspective hopefully.

[Harr1son]

Luinil loot corpse pls
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3889/luinilloot.png

[heartbrand]

To respond to boxing, boxing on blue allows one person to monopolize camps he couldn't otherwise hold on his own, to the detriment of the player base. On a PVP server you can simply kill the boxers who are unable to play in PVP effectively, see: ruthbader crew, fallen, killjoy etc. all murked daily while tryin to box

[Bhubbles]

I am for:
Boxing Yes (one exemption per)
Remove hybrid penalty
Faster content release

Indifferent on:
Yellow Text

[Bardalicious]

Let's see, yellow text and ooc which do not affect game mechanics in any way / custom resists. Yes, clearly analogous.

Cotton. Picking.

[heartbrand]

Cotton. Picking.

Yet you ignore my response to your boxing criticism.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

We've tried to no avail to get hybrid penalty removed before. It isn't going to happen.

Experience is already increased. Get over it.

Boxing destroys a blue server, nevermind pvp.

Yellow Text = vztzject custom faggotry. It isn't going to happen. Rogean said point blank "never." He said the basis for this server is P99, not vztz, so deal with it.

Content release, no idea what is going on there to be honest. I figured Kunark would be out by now.

[heartbrand]

Boxing for Red
-----------------

Pros:

Easier to find groups
Easier to roll solo on this server during down time
Easier to hold camps down and vice versa more pvp for those camps
Eaiser for guilds to field more "players" to compete, allowing a 2 guild server to become a 3 guild server or even a 4 guild server
Easier for noobs to find help, buff bots / port bots / trader bots, etc.
Makes server feel more alive
More characters to kill
Most people suck at boxing for PVP so ezier kills

Cons:

Those who are really good @ boxing will dominate newbs without groups (tho this can be a pro as well because it encourages the newb to bring friends to fight the boxer, thus leading to more pvp)
Can lead to anti-social behavior, tho on a 50 person server, I think the pro outweighs the con on this one
People can down raid content with minimal numbers, tho again, this could lead to pvp between guilds / box crews over that content



Ez Fix for Cons? Limit boxing to 2 chars. This allows melee/healer type combos, allows people to box healers on raids, etc. etc.

[Bardalicious]

Yet you ignore my response to your boxing criticism.

Not ignored. You simply double-posted before I had a chance to reply to the first. However nothing really needs to be said anyways. The subject has been debated ten thousand times in the past and anyone with a semblance of intellect can comprehend the detriments to allowing 2-boxing, especially on a pvp server.

Here's a few for you:

The buff factor. People that choose to play the server as a single character will ALWAYS be at a disadvantage to those that choose to box simply because of the constant supply of buffs they will have available.

The lowbie griefing factor. As if the population wasn't bad enough, you'd like to kill it even further by allowing low to mid-level twinks the ability to box in oor healers whenever they want? Or the reverse. Level 50's that have their 30-something cleric alts constantly following them around.

The travel factor. We might as well throw in the PoKnowledge because everyone and their uncle will have a druid or wizard for ports, not only to make travelling around Norrath a trivial task, but also decreasing the value of people that play those classes as a main without boxing.

The group factor. Again, as if the population and player interaction wasn't bad enough, you want to make finding and creating groups even worse? Boxing promotes anti-social gaming behavior. Who the fuck wants to go risk grouping with some random to get a few yellows when you can hide with your box toon and do it alone safely?

[Vile]

temp XP boost do it

+1 to pop yo

[heartbrand]

Buff Factor: Lol learn to pumice / don't engage someone 1 on 2

Griefing factor: Except now there's more PVP where there wasn't before because people's OOR PL druids will now be PVPing one another.

Travel Factor: Lol people still have trouble getting ports at this point of the server? Everyone and their mother has a druid.

Group factor: Groups are almost non-existent. I think you'd see many boxers get sick of pvping each other with little to show for it and end up grouping together. Plus, this may be crazy to you, some of us actually enjoy grouping.

[Wolfgang]

Resists: Indifferent, i dont remember how classic resists were, shit was 10 years ago. all i know is its alot harder to root people :D I'm fine with current system if Null thinks its balanced.

EXP: For Hotzones but specifically dungeons where groups most likely form up. Unrest probably the zone that groups the most followed by MM/Guk. Not sure how HighKeep goes these days.

Hybrid Penalty: Take off for group of 3 or more. Keep it for individual though.

Faster Content Release: For releasing Kunark. Need dat Iksar. Also open up the rest of the class/race combos such as gnome sk and halfling ranger. No reason to make people wait years to create the toon they wanna play. Also Kunark opens up more outdoor zones for those of us who dont grind on guards. Let's face it, Kunark is the shit.

Yellow Text: For a one week trial. Well see how it goes from there.

Boxing: Only thing I completely against. Nope nope nope.

Plugging: plz fix this, make them pop out on the other side. my last few deaths could have been prevented had i pulled the ol plug but thats gay.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

You shouldn't need to adjust how you play in response to something new added that is detrimental by its very nature, to legitimate competition.

This is what will happen with boxing. There are dozens of other shitty servers you can go box on. Go there.

[Tr0llb0rn]

XP boost? Lets try it for a month.. if it doesnt boost pop, then get rid of it.



xp was doubled for two weeks late last year, during that time the population crashed harder then at any other point, never to recover. XP was not the issue.


xp was again increased last patch, we have still continued to see the pop drop downdowndown. XP was not the issue.

all further xp boosts would do is exacerbate problems like throw-away train/hack/box accounts and further cheapen the p99 red experience as the last 40 players have 6 accounts of max level toons to train and hack with.. each.

The true PROBLEM is: people just getting bored and leaving the server until more content is released. When you are in full fear/hate armor and have best in slot out of all that "uber" guk gear, you stop playing because your character ceases to grow.

The SOLUTION is: accelerate the accelerated timeline already. Want to see pop 100+ a night again? Release sky this weekend. Want to see 200+ pop again? Release Kunark next month.

The End

[Wolfgang]

Edit put ill make a seperate post. I'd be for just removing hell levels. Hell level and hybrid penalty is a good lol. Removing them would be fair across the board, and wouldnt just benefit soloers/groupers. dunno EQ live eventually removed them but pretty sure this was after PoP sometimes.

[heartbrand]

"Want to see pop 100+ a night again? Release sky this weekend" loled @ this. No one outside of 11-12 nihilum members playing D3 care about Sky.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

You have to have some serious disconnect in your pathetic excuse for a brain if you think more content won't bring people back.

[Tr0llb0rn]

not even worth responding to the calls for YT and boxing (lol). Never going to happen, waste of breath. Horrible ideas that will never see the light of day, and if by some twist they were, I guarantee you the box would be done for. Would be about a dozen boxers left and thats it.

If we wanted to box, we'd be boxing legit on free EQmac.

[Wolfgang]

release Kunark but before you do make sure its advertised. pay smedy 50 euros or something to make a new vid. forum warriors do some work on other sites. Kunark CAN boost the hell out of population if done right.

[Tr0llb0rn]

temp XP boost do it

+1 to pop yo

earlier you posted you did not even know the exact level of your troll SK, you obviously are not serious about playing here.

Lazy and wants to put zero work or investment into his character (that he dosent even know the level of). Not what this server is about. See you in 3 years when they remove the hybrid penalty in velous.

[heartbrand]

Reading comprehension. I agree overall that more content is needed, but to think that Plane of Sky is going to bring 100+, like this poster claimed about Plane of Hate, is laughable. Kunark is what's needed, yes I understand Sky is the natural progression towards that, just making fun of the concept that Sky on it's own will suddenly bring an influx of players.

[Wolfgang]

people too xp hungry. i was xping in a full group last night with a bard and xp was fine. I am more for removing hell levels than hybrid penalties.

[Bardalicious]

Buff Factor: Lol learn to pumice / don't engage someone 1 on 2

Griefing factor: Except now there's more PVP where there wasn't before because people's OOR PL druids will now be PVPing one another.

Travel Factor: Lol people still have trouble getting ports at this point of the server? Everyone and their mother has a druid.

Group factor: Groups are almost non-existent. I think you'd see many boxers get sick of pvping each other with little to show for it and end up grouping together. Plus, this may be crazy to you, some of us actually enjoy grouping.

Exactly why nothing needed to be said. You're too disillusioned by your own desire to box to see it for the detriment that it is.

"LOL GRPS ARE NON EXISTANT BUT ALLOWING PPL TO GROUP WITH THEMSELVES WILL FIX IT SOMEHOW!!!111one"

My enjoyment of having to go out to group with people is mostly WHY I don't support boxing. You're just fucking retarded pal.

[jdklaw]

Boxing for Red
-----------------

Pros:

Easier to find groups
Easier to roll solo on this server during down time
Easier to hold camps down and vice versa more pvp for those camps
Eaiser for guilds to field more "players" to compete, allowing a 2 guild server to become a 3 guild server or even a 4 guild server
Easier for noobs to find help, buff bots / port bots / trader bots, etc.
Makes server feel more alive
More characters to kill
Most people suck at boxing for PVP so ezier kills

Cons:

Those who are really good @ boxing will dominate newbs without groups (tho this can be a pro as well because it encourages the newb to bring friends to fight the boxer, thus leading to more pvp)
Can lead to anti-social behavior, tho on a 50 person server, I think the pro outweighs the con on this one
People can down raid content with minimal numbers, tho again, this could lead to pvp between guilds / box crews over that content

Ez Fix for Cons? Limit boxing to 2 chars. This allows melee/healer type combos, allows people to box healers on raids, etc. etc.


Heartbrand u make the stupidest arguments for boxing, stfu alrdy, it will only deter new comers and make it easier to level alts...

Hybrid penalty needs to be removed.

EXP alrdy boosted.

YT would be nice but not game changing.


Resists: Player base continues to say they don't want a special custom resist system, they want classic. For a server that's built upon being classic, this one is just mind boggling to me. The evidence of what classic was has been documented all over these boards, it's not an issue of can the devs make it classic, it's an issue of they don't want it to be classic.


Resist seem ok to me, and you claim that theres been evidence of classic resists all over the boards? Well.... "I remember" is not evidence, sorry pal, do some research if you want it changed.

Seems to me that you are upset you have BiS MR items in every slot and are still taking full fire and ice damage, try having a more balanced resist set.

[Wolfgang]

I've always been against boxing even on live. If boxing was ever implemented, I would for sure move on. Thats not a rage quit but this server is pretty legit atm and I'd like to keep it that way. Keep the playing field fair to those of us who only wish to play one toon at a time.

[Tr0llb0rn]

yeah, the whole point of this goes out the window the day they allow boxing.

We are here for the community. Boxing is the community killer.

[Bardalicious]

Reading comprehension. I agree overall that more content is needed, but to think that Plane of Sky is going to bring 100+, like this poster claimed about Plane of Hate, is laughable. Kunark is what's needed, yes I understand Sky is the natural progression towards that, just making fun of the concept that Sky on it's own will suddenly bring an influx of players.

Also, fyi, a chemically-stable pvp community is needed to create a strong server. Red99 can be as shiny as you'd like it. The fact that EQ PVP is a minority to begin with, compounded with the community being mostly comprised of gasoline-huffing retards that:

1. Grief off any and all players
2. Rage quit if any competition arises
3. Cheat and exploit to gain any advantage they can

Doomed the server from the start. VZTZ has fallen time and time again for a reason. The PVP community just can't help but continue down the same self-destructive path as before. The reason PVP was mostly successful on live, especially in 99-01, was because of the community. It was a balanced mix of players. We simply don't have that any more. Enjoy Red99 for what it is or move the fuck on. It obviously isn't sinking in that nobody gives a shit about all of the posts you make from atop your internet soap box.

[heartbrand]

Same 3 people shout down any possible positive changes to this server in every thread, while the voice of the unknown player goes unheard, because he has already passed on to newer pastures, his cries unheard and unchampioned.

[heartbrand]

not even worth responding to the calls for YT and boxing (lol). Never going to happen, waste of breath. Horrible ideas that will never see the light of day, and if by some twist they were, I guarantee you the box would be done for. Would be about a dozen boxers left and thats it.

If we wanted to box, we'd be boxing legit on free EQmac.

so lol coming from the guy who has the vast majority of boxers in his guild including the de factor leader, fallen.

[jdklaw]

Same 3 people shout down any possible positive changes to this server in every thread, while the voice of the unknown player goes unheard, because he has already passed on to newer pastures, his cries unheard and unchampioned.

Any possible positive changes are not boxing. The argument for classic resists is not a good one if your only evidence during the era is "i remember it was like this."

Be a better lawyer.

so lol coming from the guy who has the vast majority of boxers in his guild including the de factor leader, fallen.

doing an item transfer is your argument for the de factor leader in boxing, confirming ur status as village idiot.

[heartbrand]

yes, because fallen never abused ip exempt to insta quit from world, oh wait he admitted it on forums

[jdklaw]

yes, because fallen never abused ip exempt to insta quit from world, oh wait he admitted it on forums

k so your complaint is him insta plugging, not boxing right?

[Sektor]

Listen, I think we can all agree that global ooc saved this server from having <30 pop at nights, so thank you Lord Rogean for that, even if it came very late. Having said that, there's still shit that needs to be addressed on this server. In no particular order here we go:

Resists: Player base continues to say they don't want a special custom resist system, they want classic. For a server that's built upon being classic, this one is just mind boggling to me. The evidence of what classic was has been documented all over these boards, it's not an issue of can the devs make it classic, it's an issue of they don't want it to be classic.

EXP: Still needs a boost. Day in and day out I see newbies, give them items and plat to help them, never see them again / hear them rage quit in OOC cuz of exp. There's just not enough lowbie pop to have healthy groups, so EXP boost is needed, as a temporary crutch perhaps, to assist them. Get people to the higher levels as fast as possible, 35+, create hot zones, do whatever it takes. This is probably the biggest issue right now. 50's who create alts don't care because they twink and use their guildies to powerlevel. Please address this.

Hybrid Penalty: It's still a joke that groups are penalized for being social. Please remove this penalty from group settings, and at the very least, consider removing hybrid penalties.

Faster Content Release: Classic is boring. This is supposed to be an advanced progression server. Somehow it's slower than blue now. There are tons of people on the sidelines waiting to make iksar necros / monks, etc. There's more stuff to camp, more stuff to do. We need more content desperately.

Yellow Text: Global OOC really calmed down on a lot of the forum BS, because people just do their trash talking in game now. Yellow Text will further cut down on it because what can you possibly say when ur name repeatedly ends upon the right side of the text? (lookin at you mellowyellow) It's exciting, encourages e-peen and PVP, it prevents griefing because it alerts people that pvp is taking place and makes others want to get involved, and oh by the way, every freaking poll for yellow text has had massive support 80%+.

Boxing: Time to reconsider the server policy on boxing. I get why people don't want it on blue, but we should accept the fact that red is different from blue for a variety of reasons and that the issues with boxing on blue don't apply to red. Can we please have a discussion on this?

Server Rules: Still no clear outlined server rules.


Thanks for reading, keep it civil boys.



Well thought out suggestions and I agree with most of this.

[Arillious]

The GM's that actually matter stopped caring about this server a few weeks in. Whether it was Star Wars or not being able to handle the community BS, they just stopped being active.

Sure there were a lot of issue's, but it was the lack of communication that started the drop in population. Once the pop started to drop, you started a chain effect of people quitting because others were quitting and they started to view the grind as a waste of time.

Fixing all the issue's you outlined will do little to change the server.

People will only come back if there is a population, there will only be a population if people come back. Quite the paradox.

The only realistic way to get people back is for Rogean to be a active vocal leader again and gain the perception that the population will increase.

[hijinks]

The only realistic way to get people back is for Rogean to be a active vocal leader again and gain the perception that the population will increase.

^x5

Listening to people defer and watching GM's on an island by themselves got old awhile ago. Couldn't have said it better myself. The #1 thing that will bring life back to this server is the creator himself being active and accessible to the community. I commend the folks who have stuck it through and continue to play on here, but nothing short of Kunark may ever spike my interest again. Little interest in farming pixels non-stop and PvPing the same 25 people.

Bottom line, R99 was an after-thought. At least that is the vibe I get, I can picture a motivated and ambitious Rogean seeking for the perfect Classic experience on blue, but we now know that motivation never moved on over to Red99. If he changed his mentality, and would seek the perfect PvP server and was open to suggestions such as the ones mentioned by Heartbrand and others countless times then this server has hope, but his intention with Red99 is nothing more than a blue afterthought with PvP flag enabled. It sucks, because it is by far and large the most stable box and proven reputation.

It's a shame, felt the server had a lot of potential but it was poorly managed and severely mishandled.

[jdklaw]

A state of the server development post on a regular basis from devs (once a month? once a week?)

Can highligh things in development, things under consideration, things in the works, things to come etc etc

[hijinks]

If you could chart Rogean's posts per day from the moment of Project1999 inception to today, it would be a drastic drop off. We can't fault the man for moving on, but my biggest complaint about that is this: If you can't dedicate the time you'd like to either because you don't want to, or can't-- then hand over the keys to somebody or a group of somebodies that DOES.

Project1999 code base and reputation in the hands of a group of ambitious people striving for a great PvP server would be a recipe for success. Unfortunately, we know that will never happen because he'll never do that.

[Mornin3.0]

It's a shame, felt the server had a lot of potential but it was poorly managed and severely mishandled.

One day, even I will be griefed off by GMs..
stop wasting ur time with this HB...


Rogean dont give a fuck-Kringe...



Retard bluebies even starting to realize and stop logging in for their pixels..

[heartbrand]

If you could chart Rogean's posts per day from the moment of Project1999 inception to today, it would be a drastic drop off. We can't fault the man for moving on, but my biggest complaint about that is this: If you can't dedicate the time you'd like to either because you don't want to, or can't-- then hand over the keys to somebody or a group of somebodies that DOES.

Project1999 code base and reputation in the hands of a group of ambitious people striving for a great PvP server would be a recipe for success. Unfortunately, we know that will never happen because he'll never do that.

[Hitchens]

Not interested in playing on a server that allows boxing.

[bilbobaggins]

temp XP boost do it

+1 to pop yo

make that +2 to pop.

obviously increased xp will save the server. the people who aren't playing are the people who can't dedicate the 200 odd hours required to get to level 50.

[Wolfgang]

xp bonus only further seperates solo classes from ones dependent on group. it is not the answer at least not an across the board xp bonus. gotta be careful with how easy you make it to 50. there has to be some type of time commitment. im for removing hell levels because those are the levels when people start droppin.

[bilbobaggins]

xp bonus only further seperates solo classes from ones dependent on group. it is not the answer at least not an across the board xp bonus. gotta be careful with how easy you make it to 50. there has to be some type of time commitment. im for removing hell levels because those are the levels when people start droppin.

sure. it's not like i am suggesting we get a /ding 50 command. but even the fastest leveling classes right now are spending more than 200 hours to get to 50. imagine how much time a warrior spends on his journey to 50. personally, i have 9 or 10 days played and i'm stuck in level 40 having a pretty tough time finding groups to get any further.

cutting leveling time in half would not make anything trivial. it would still require a rather large time commitment (time sink) to get to max level. it would allow for more players to reach 40+, more players to pvp with, more players to fight for raid content, etc. the list of pros goes on and on.

[jdklaw]

xp bonus only further seperates solo classes from ones dependent on group. it is not the answer at least not an across the board xp bonus. gotta be careful with how easy you make it to 50. there has to be some type of time commitment. im for removing hell levels because those are the levels when people start droppin.

thats a good point i never considered that, it will just make the ez soloing classes sky rocket that much faster...

I've been a supporter of no hybrid penalty, i think thats the big one and should be considered before any other xp alterations

[bilbobaggins]

thats a good point i never considered that, it will just make the ez soloing classes sky rocket that much faster...


every time someone posts an argument for increased exp, the next couple of posts are people saying leveling will be too easy/too fast.

100 hours to 50 instead of 200 hours is too fast?

/facepalm

[Wolfgang]

not sure how i feel about hyrbid penalty. I mean is it fair to a warrior who cant solo at all to have the same xp mod as an sk or paladin who have much more utility/solo ability. Dunno still say fuck hell levels but i cant complain. Again i was with a bard last night for a few hours in lguk and xp was fine. people need to quit being dicks and let hybrids in groups.

[surf3001x]

I'm brand spanking new to the server.

I don't log in as much.

If xp was boosted (especially offense/defense skill increases they go up so freaking slow) I'd log in right now.

If I could 2box a melee w/ a healer I'd log in right now.

[Wolfgang]

you are brand new but now you dont log in as much. im not trolling but if you already fed up with game as a brand new player this place prob not for you. if you decide to stick out it send tell to Samwise in game, if im not busy ill give you some buffs.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I'm brand spanking new to the server.

I don't log in as much.

If xp was boosted (especially offense/defense skill increases they go up so freaking slow) I'd log in right now.

If I could 2box a melee w/ a healer I'd log in right now.

Well I have great news for you! On the same server list you use to log in, look for one called "ez server", click on that. Fast xp and box all you want.

I make dreams come true.

[jdklaw]

not sure how i feel about hyrbid penalty. I mean is it fair to a warrior who cant solo at all to have the same xp mod as an sk or paladin who have much more utility/solo ability. Dunno still say fuck hell levels but i cant complain. Again i was with a bard last night for a few hours in lguk and xp was fine. people need to quit being dicks and let hybrids in groups.

how about just dont penalize the group thats inviting them to xp?

[Wolfgang]

how about just dont penalize the group thats inviting them to xp?

sounds good. im wondering though if a hybrid can just invite people to group that then leave zone. basically wiping his penalty. sounds good on paper tho. go for it.

edit: imagine a bard abusing the grouping thing and kiting without xp penalty. sick xp lol

[kprobe]

No to YT (see Lazor-ram arguments), No boxing.

Yes to group exp bonus and hot zones.

PvP resists are fine currently. Fix Mage Bolts and Dragon AE partial rates.

[Maze]

No to YT (see Lazor-ram arguments), No boxing.

Yes to group exp bonus and hot zones.

PvP resists are fine currently. Fix Mage Bolts and Dragon AE partial rates.

[Tombom]

No to YT (see Lazor-ram arguments), No boxing.

Yes to group exp bonus and hot zones.

PvP resists are fine currently. Fix Mage Bolts and Dragon AE partial rates.

phantom knows whats best


accept YT, thats a must.

[Aenor]

Boxing is Classic. Was doing it by the time Sol Ro quests were released.

Thanks.

[Bardalicious]

Boxing is Classic. Was doing it by the time Sol Ro quests were released.

Thanks.


K if they charge $10/mo per account, limit your total connection speed to the server to 56k across all clients and make you plop a big fat voodoo video card + other appropriate hardware to run it off of, I'll agree to allowing boxing due to it being "classic".

[Aenor]

I'm in.

[Wolfgang]

Boxing is Classic. Was doing it by the time Sol Ro quests were released.

Thanks.

nerd

[kindred]

releasing kunark with a low population will be the death of an already dead box.

the box then will be undead.

don't listen to the pvp illiterate.

[EQtrader]

[QUOTE=Lazortag;652198]Here's another issue that needs attention: players having absolutely no clue what's good for the server and ignoring any opinions that contradict their own. I can't even count how many times I've been trolled into writing a long well-thought out post thoroughly explaining why yellow text is bad, only to be met with a response to the effect of, "lol gay". It has minimal benefits but creates massive harms for the server. Stop acting like you will save the server by giving people global recognition every time they kill someone. They can do that in ooc already if they want to.

This makes zero sense.

Your argument against yellow text.

"It has minimal benefits but creates massive harms for the server"

LOL what massive harms for this server could it create? Gobal recognition? LOL come up with some facts and statements other then, Yellow text is gay because it could cause problems? well what kind of problems.

- soldier

[heartbrand]

In wolframs mind PVP is griefing so by encouraging more PVP there will be more griefing. This ignores the fact that if I see some yellow text I'm going to join in the fun, log on an alt in range, save people being bind camped etc. he thinks it will encourage more plugging but everyone plugs, who willingly allows themselves to die by a zone line?

I think he's bothered as well that there's not enough context or something to a yt msg as though it needs to be a novel describing the blow by blow account. I think it will actually cut down on trash talk because the people on the wrong side will shut up, with the exception of mellow yellow who you could kill one on one naked and he would claim it was a victory.

[jjgerman]

boxing will just mean everyone has a buff bot and a heal bot at their bind point


pass



increased EXP, and resists that are actual EQ resists would be wonderful though

[Lazortag]

[QUOTE=Lazortag;652198]"Here's another issue that needs attention: players having absolutely no clue what's good for the server and ignoring any opinions that contradict their own. I can't even count how many times I've been trolled into writing a long well-thought out post thoroughly explaining why yellow text is bad, only to be met with a response to the effect of, "lol gay". It has minimal benefits but creates massive harms for the server. Stop acting like you will save the server by giving people global recognition every time they kill someone. They can do that in ooc already if they want to."

This makes zero sense.

Your argument against yellow text.

"It has minimal benefits but creates massive harms for the server"

LOL what massive harms for this server could it create? Gobal recognition? LOL come up with some facts and statements other then, Yellow text is gay because it could cause problems? well what kind of problems.

- soldier

Nope, I'm not going to be trolled by you. I've elaborated on the harms of YT in numerous other threads that you've responded to so you know what my reasons are. Every time I do this I get a one liner response and my criticism of YT is ignored, meaning that I've wasted the 5 minutes of my time it took to write a post.

In wolframs mind PVP is griefing so by encouraging more PVP there will be more griefing. This ignores the fact that if I see some yellow text I'm going to join in the fun, log on an alt in range, save people being bind camped etc. he thinks it will encourage more plugging but everyone plugs, who willingly allows themselves to die by a zone line?

lol, I think all pvp is griefing? What? If you're going to try to explain my argument at least do it right. This basically proves what I said above; even if I did give a long well-thought out explanation of why YT is bad, you wouldn't even understand it.

If you want an explanation, search these forums.

[jjgerman]

screen shot of me from back in the day on sullen. resisting mez like nothing w/ 82 MR.


http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3773/eq000058.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/eq000058.png/)

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

This makes zero sense.

Your argument against yellow text.

"It has minimal benefits but creates massive harms for the server"

LOL what massive harms for this server could it create? Gobal recognition? LOL come up with some facts and statements other then, Yellow text is gay because it could cause problems? well what kind of problems.

- soldier

This player is banned on blue. All opinions irrelevant.

[pojab]

YT for great victory. HPT and null lead server devs. will be 8000+ players by august.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

I seem to remember a shitty server with YT. How's it doing now? I can't find it on server select.

[pojab]

did better for 3 years than this abortion peice of shit you call home

[Wolfgang]

did better for 3 years than this abortion peice of shit you call home

Mad cuz hack free

[hagard]

YT for great victory. HPT and null lead server devs. will be 8000+ players by august.

/signed


Mad cuz hack free
Don't even what you're talking about

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

did better for 3 years than this abortion peice of shit you call home

Infested with MQ, gms giving items, exploits 10x worse and more prevalent than here, selos working indoors amongst other gamebreaking faggotry, boxing, etc.

Yeah, sounds "better" rofl

You're a joke and that's why you got laughed off the server along with your vztzjects.

[hagard]

Infested with MQ, gms giving items, exploits 10x worse and more prevalent than here, selos working indoors amongst other gamebreaking faggotry, boxing, etc.

Yeah, sounds "better" rofl

You're a joke and that's why you got laughed off the server along with your vztzjects.
All the flaws and was still 1000000x better than r99.
Vztz so awesome 90% of your posts are about it

[Lazortag]

Infested with MQ, gms giving items, exploits 10x worse and more prevalent than here, selos working indoors amongst other gamebreaking faggotry, boxing, etc.

Yeah, sounds "better" rofl

You're a joke and that's why you got laughed off the server along with your vztzjects.

Not to mention the pathing was worse than the red shells in Mario Kart 64.

[pojab]

sounds like some nobodies are furious. vztz was amazing. devs have left this box for dead.

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

Furious of what? Having a server worth a shit?

It sounds like you and Hololost et al are the ones angry, spamming the forums.

VZTZ was a hilarious joke and that's why nearly everyone that came from it are too.

[Sirken]

Furious of what? Having a server worth a shit?

It sounds like you and Hololost et al are the ones angry, spamming the forums.

VZTZ was a hilarious joke and that's why nearly everyone that came from it are too.

for what its worth, i feel i should remind you that the loudest most vocal players from the old vztz community, does not make up the entire community.

every community has asshats as well as stand up folks. its just that the asshats cry and complain the loudest.

[Mornin3.0]

Sirkrn you are forgetting that harrison is in no way an asshat and is a valuable member of any community...