Integrity-Pvp-Training

[Abysal]

Past week of pvp have been best times on this server thus far, and I think most of it can be attributed to the fact that both sides are actively discouraging training of any sort during or after the big fights.

After one side wins or loses a few times in a night and the zone is established, rather than take a "sore loser mentality" (if I cant have it, you cant either) and just attempt to train over and over for 5 hours ruining the entire night in some instances for everyone still on. Just go and pve or pvp elsewhere. Past week it seems finally this seems to be happening consistently. And while we have won the last few big fights, if we do lose a fight , none of the Founding Father members will bind train naked for hours on end to stop your raid from going on if we give up as a guild. Obviously though one can still attack as normal if they so choose as long as they dont train.

With no fear of being trained after you win a big pvp fight over a raid mob or whatever there will be a REASON for people to want to raid and fight in mass pvp rather than the feeling of "oh great we won the zone for now inc 15 naked trainers for 3 hours" that type of shit just ruins the servers integrity. We dont want any training and we dont want any hacking taking place on our server because lets face it we all put in over 400 hours into this thing and in order for it to survive and grow we need more people who WANT to play on a server where they can -- pvp, mass pvp, and Pve without the bullshit of training and hacking wasting their time.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Who was on Titanuk that first night he ran naked to ledge with a huge train /shouting "Allah Akbar" ?

Serious question. Him and the "main" that was logging him in should be delt with.

I'd take you seriously if you called him out.

[Stfu]

Because training will get you Perma banned. Not because people aren't willing, it's just the pixels are weak. Welcome to vallon zek ya'll. Men about it.

[jdklaw]

We appreciate the FF mentality, but maybe you should deal with whoever logs on Titanuk to lead the charge with a train /cough heartbrand

[heartbrand]

so much mad in this thread, nihilum crushed in equal number pvp, no mobs involved other than the ones shocker pulls while plugging or dekadenz pulls while fleeing for his life. it's been fun boys no need to make excuses, it's over you lost move on

[Nirgon]

Who was on Titanuk that first night he ran naked to ledge with a huge train /shouting "Allah Akbar" ?

Serious question. Him and the "main" that was logging him in should be delt with.

I'd take you seriously if you called him out.

^ Butt devastated by incident.

I am Spartacus.

so much mad in this thread, nihilum crushed in equal number pvp


On "NAGGY EXPLOIT JUSTICE DAY" I recall rolling them like 9 on 20 or so. The corpse stacks were the likes of nothing I ever saw in Everquest.

[Lazortag]

I'm not involved in any way but I still think it's good Abysal made this post. As fun as training is, it's not allowed and only cowards resort to it.

[tehruoh]

from good thread to shit thread as the trolls move in.

[heartbrand]

ignore the nihilum propaganda machine, every time one of them runs around with their heads chopped off during pvp backwards into a mob they start crying train. for people who claim to be so good at PVE you guys can't lock down one FG during 20 v 20 PVP? lolz

btw having ur charm FG pell bombed and therefore aggro on you is not a train fyi

[bigeasy]

cant believe people still play this,, champions in their own mind

[Tr0llb0rn]

waste of a thread

in game : train with titanku

on forums: condeme training in hopes mellow dosent make us chain wipe till 5am again

see through this

p.s. Nirgon: griefed off the server

[Stfu]

I'm not involved in any way but I still think it's good Abysal made this post. As fun as training is, it's not allowed and only cowards resort to it.

That's what made VZ the best pvp server. We had true legit pvp for years. Once macroquest came out though and griefing nerd rage started legit players had to adapt and compromise VZ values. Upon zek mergers it was a griefing warptastic Ebay onslaught mixed with still awesome pvp.

Grief did have to fight grief though. I remember Speedd single handedly protecting Hates raids in plane of fire kiting a massive train near the zone in. if anyone zoned in he would fade hundreds of mobs on you before you even zoned and had control of your character. You were dead.. Was epic

[Amuk]

I love to train, and have done it quite often - but abyssal and the others have been asking me to stop - and I will, but if Nihilum starts to grease it up I'll go back to what I was doing before.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I love to train, and have done it quite often - but abyssal and the others have been asking me to stop - and I will, but if Nihilum starts to grease it up I'll go back to what I was doing before.

there you have it

edit: lol heartbrand you fool, might want to edit your posts now

[Amuk]

FF does things differently, and that 20vs20 had no training - IDC which way you guys want to play it though tbh.

[Tr0llb0rn]

FF does things differently, and that 20vs20 had no training - IDC which way you guys want to play it though tbh.

surrrrrrrrre

[Amuk]

I don't understand, what are you saying was trained in that fight - I survived till only Ordaga was left, and there was no mob agro except your pet firegiants.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I don't understand, what are you saying was trained in that fight - I survived till only Ordaga was left, and there was no mob agro except your pet firegiants.

mmmhmmmmm

[Lazortag]

I love to train, and have done it quite often - but abyssal and the others have been asking me to stop - and I will, but if Nihilum starts to grease it up I'll go back to what I was doing before.

I love how you admit to training and even threaten to do it again, yet your guild always talks about how "unfair" and "biased" the GM's are. Seems like they were very lenient with you.

[jdklaw]

FF does things differently, and that 20vs20 had no training - IDC which way you guys want to play it though tbh.

True, no training on the mass fight was a nice charge guild vs guild and was fun as hell.

Before the charge, Titanuk ran through naked with a train and had andis and others following him.

Please take note of the following image, this was after Titanuk ran through. I wasn't quick enough with the SS snapping since I was trying to root him down and run away from agro, but wasnt fast enough to get out of the way.

Firegiant toes on the right corner also, I hope something is done with this evidence, considering Shocker was prematurely suspended without warning or giving his side of story.

Poor Abysal claiming his guild is nontraining, but Andis is clearly involved.

http://i.imgur.com/heeTr.jpg

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

I love to train, and have done it quite often - but abyssal and the others have been asking me to stop - and I will, but if Nihilum starts to grease it up I'll go back to what I was doing before.

Confirmed another chump.

[heartbrand]

not sure what that pic shows, if andis had brought the train the mobs would be on him not you

[Amuk]

GM's can't decide how pvp is handled - it needs to be agreed upon by the players, I have done nothing that Tror hasn't done (CT script, bind rushing, training)

If FF decides no training, and Nihilum agrees - then it will stop, running fraps crying every time will do nothing.

[Tr0llb0rn]

not sure what that pic shows, if andis had brought the train the mobs would be on him not you

Titanuk brought the train(s), please keep up.

Hopefully Titanuk and the main logging him in is perma banned soon.

Need them eyes Sirken.

[heartbrand]

the whole thread is lol, in the actual PVP battle for the zone, the one with equal numbers, nihilum lost for the 3rd consecutive night in a row

[Tr0llb0rn]

the whole thread is lol, in the actual PVP battle for the zone, the one with equal numbers, nihilum lost for the 3rd consecutive night in a row

all those bodies in lava and near solB zoneline disagree

lol 4 u

[Malevz]

Past week of pvp have been best times on this server thus far, and I think most of it can be attributed to the fact that both sides are actively discouraging training of any sort during or after the big fights.

Initially I believed that FF was going to take a no training policy, now I suspect this is some kind of troll I don't understand.

Honestly if you want credibility logging on Titanuk prior to mass pvp battles to train, then zoning in once we have 30 mobs on us ruins it. Any remaining credibility is ruined by Checkraise claiming Titanuk was deleted a week ago, or claiming we trained ourselves when it's just us and Titanuk in zone, and seeing him run by with 30 mobs.

If you expect people to think it's coincidence because he's not tagged FF :rolleyes:

[Seaweedpimp]

^^^ lol and what is that SS supposed to show?

I see no text of mobs changing aggro from one person to another, i see no FF except stasis and andis, who obviously couldnt train you.


pathetic

[Stfu]

Someone will inevitably snap in the future. But permaban policy is keeping things in line. Everyone is guilty of being a douche bag trainer, exploiter or hacker at one point. Hell this whole emulator is a massive hack of Sony's program. So fucking crying hacks when hacks are the whole reason we have a server sometimes makes me ponder existentially. Not to mention how much money Sony has lost due to piracy exploitation and hacking of their software to make a pixel house for broke eq addicts.

But moral of the story is Sean decided your fate in this oversized Facebook edition of everquest. You are all losers. I will beat you at legit eq. Train eq. Or hack eq. The only question is... How do you want to die?

[hagard]

Titanuk brought the train(s), please keep up.

Hopefully Titanuk and the main logging him in is perma banned soon.

Need them eyes Sirken.

translates to; please ban all competition me and my shit guild arent PVP inclined enough to compete

[jdklaw]

whats pic show? pic shows titanuk getting CC'd to block train from hitting our force in throne room, agro switches to me and i eat it instead of running to my guild. GoodJob.

[Seaweedpimp]

And how did that happen?

[hagard]

whats pic show? pic shows titanuk getting CC'd to block train from hitting our force in throne room, agro switches to me and i eat it instead of running to my guild. GoodJob.

doesnt show him being cc'd

[Seaweedpimp]

True, no training on the mass fight was a nice charge guild vs guild and was fun as hell.

Before the charge, Titanuk ran through naked with a train and had andis and others following him.

Please take note of the following image, this was after Titanuk ran through. I wasn't quick enough with the SS snapping since I was trying to root him down and run away from agro, but wasnt fast enough to get out of the way.

Firegiant toes on the right corner also, I hope something is done with this evidence, considering Shocker was prematurely suspended without warning or giving his side of story.

Poor Abysal claiming his guild is nontraining, but Andis is clearly involved.

http://i.imgur.com/heeTr.jpg

whats pic show? pic shows titanuk getting CC'd to block train from hitting our force in throne room, agro switches to me and i eat it instead of running to my guild. GoodJob.


Heh... wheres titanuk? And how would CCing him get you aggro?

You either failed to cc him out of aggro range of your raid, or youre just making shit up, either way you didnt prove anything with the SS.

grats

[Seaweedpimp]

I guess ill log in later, run solo to ledge with full repops, take pic of me getting owned by my own train, and cry wolf.


is that whats required to join nihil? I think i just passed your app process. get back to me.

[Seaweedpimp]

Lol, also lolololo at "i ccd him"

When all you did was attempt to snare ( snare is ur cc bro?) .

Pure fail omgawd.

[Amuk]

It's been long tradition for Nihilum to run fraps/ss/qq every fight since beginning of server, this is no different.

[Dacuk]

Lets see how things play out now that expectations have been made clear (at least to FF)

[HarrisonIsStillPosting]

I love to train, and have done it quite often - but abyssal and the others have been asking me to stop - and I will, but if Nihilum starts to grease it up I'll go back to what I was doing before.

Ban this faggot for admitting to training.

[Lemons]

terrible fight, all of nihi sucks, i think cept for like arzak and odega or whatever, the rest are pure shit. chickens without their heads.

[heartbrand]

every single fight without fail tehruoh chases me around the duration of the entire skirmish, still tryin for that elusive KS on checkraise

[Seaweedpimp]

Ban this faggot for admitting to training.

How we ban you for failing at life?


When you take a dog, and he snaps and bites every person that comes near, they put those dogs to death. I really wouldnt care if harrison got the shot. Hell id pay the 35.99.


lol

[Nirgon]

Training disgusts chuck

The SolB pathing here disgusts Nirgon


Form ban me for ban evasion like Salty. There can be no favoritism. Everything wrong here is because of the players. Anything new and juicy to post so I can repeat it over and over? I mean something had to have happened since the Nagafen thing here, throw me a bone.

^ I completely agree and no to the last thing aside from Supreme ban. You should ride that horse for a while, it was LAWLZY.

[Wolfgang]

cant deny those fire giants Tror was hauling around the first nite.

[Nirgon]

I mean I'm just saying, if there's fair treatment to be expected in dealings here, let's at least follow through on something small. He makes a great point and I completely agree. For once his white knighting really has a point and purpose.

[Lazortag]

The SolB pathing here disgusts Nirgon


There's nothing wrong with the pathing in SolB. Mobs don't path through walls here like they did on vztz. If you aggro a mob from BnB to the FG ledge, it'll path through the area near the bat SolA zoneline, unless you're really close to the mob when it happens (in which case it'll follow you through the lava). The pathing is very predictable and anyone who's raided in SolB for more than 5 minutes should know how to stop their pets from training the shit out of people. I'd be very surprised if less than 90% of the trains caused by "bad pathing" were intentional.

I love to train, and have done it quite often - but abyssal and the others have been asking me to stop - and I will, but if Nihilum starts to grease it up I'll go back to what I was doing before.

I still think this is hilarious... so you admit that Abysal knew you trained, and didn't report you for it? Why aren't you banned? Why isn't Abysal banned?

[Amuk]

I didn't train in solb, I said I like to train and have done it - the Holo/Nihilum situation included plenty of greasey shit on both sides. If FF want to try to create a different one I said I would agree to it, but don't really mind either way TBH.

Nihilum acting like white knights is the funniest part - as is the constant cry of being the victim, I don't care how it goes down, I'm good with grief pvp.

[Tr0llb0rn]

I didn't train in solb, I said I like to train and have done it - the Holo/Nihilum situation included plenty of greasey shit on both sides. If FF want to try to create a different one I said I would agree to it, but don't really mind either way TBH.

Nihilum acting like white knights is the funniest part - as is the constant cry of being the victim, I don't care how it goes down, I'm good with grief pvp.

lol feeble backtracking

[Amuk]

After seeing how bad you play an enchanter, it doesn't suprise me you have shit reading comprehension.

[lethdar]

Saddened to see so many pals still immersed.

[hagard]

Saddened to see so many pals still immersed.

WRU VZTZ

[jdklaw]

WRU VZTZ

playing the blue sk he traded for, a lvl 51 named Sloth; pvp too hard he rather sit in line for camps and max the group exp

[Tombom]

playing the blue sk he traded for, a lvl 51 named Sloth; pvp too hard he rather sit in line for camps and max the group exp

oh gawd if this is true,



ps that mashup is bomb

[Harr1son]

Saddened to see so many pals still immersed.

Lethdar I too once lost hope. But its actually a good box, perma ban policy is keeping 'play better' status locked down to be honest.

Everyone cleaning up their whistles for Red99 -- its now a show down can you hang on a real emu box?

The Cool Kids send you a soft kaw. Put the past behind bro, not mad, not bad ready for the final culmination of Classic PVP in what has proven to be a truly worthwhile battle ground.

[mendan]

abysal attempts to make a good post. hearthbrand and frees shit it up with their ignorance. same old shit...

[Harr1son]

ya lethdar playing blue

use your imagination

http://revnadinedraytonkeen.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/burying-ones-head-in-the-sand.jpg

i know you can use you dinner conversations to lure him back.

oh and lethdar I saved this as a memento for you. You might be dead in this picture but, it also may be the only living memento of your character from live.

cherish it. dunno how i found it. nice VT staff.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4607/eq000059.jpg

[Abysal]

Like dacuk said we will see how things play out now, now that everyone knows our stance on training officially or whatever. if any of our members intentionally train on any toon, even if hes not tagged, while we are guild pvping we will disband them, fucking shit ruins the server for everyone who is playing and is thinking about playing. You cant accomplish anything if you have assholes just training everytime they lose an engagement or are trying to contest a mob illegally. I for one put alot of time into this server and would like it to prosper and I dont see it happening if people feel that contesting a raid mob is just going to lead to train fest for 5 hours. Thats just a waste of time.

[Andis]

read above...let's keep the server legit...look @ holo, they took on training as a tactic for winning...look where it left them

train free -- PvP enabled

[jdklaw]

ps that mashup is bomb

trudat

[bamzal]

The Founding Fathers follows a few simple rules. Any Father that break these rules will be reprimanded. To get a deeper view and understanding about The Founding Fathers please follow the links at the bottom of the page.

The rules made simple!
Fathers will not PK any lights (unless attacked first, if a member of an enemy guild, or if helping an an allied guild)
Fathers will not corpse camp
Fathers will not bind rush
Fathers will LNS from a given zone if PKed, unless other agreement is obtained with the victor(s) of the battle
Fathers will not group or team with any race that is not a light race. We do not group with Dark Elves, Trolls, Ogres or Iksar.
Fathers will not group or team with our enemies (ex: PK guilds)

Fatherly Conduct
This is to inform new recruits and any others interested in what it means to be a Founding Father and what our Norrathian views are and how a Father is expected to act in given situations. We are a confederacy of like-minded men of Norrath that believe in personal choice, freedom, and justice. We believe that these goals are best met through our dedication to honor, trust, and loyalty. We hold these values dear and will always apply them to dealings with each other. We will apply them to our allies and friends in all dealings with them, just as if they were fathers. Finally we apply them to the innocent citizens of this reflection of Norrath known as Project 1999 Red (Classic, PvP) when ever we can.
Choice: As a Father you have the final choice. You can chose to live by these values in our guild or you can follow any other path that you desire outside our guild.
Freedom: As a Father you are expected to aid your Fathers whenever possible, at all times. You are expected to aid our allies whenever you can. You are free to make choices, just be prepared to live with your choices.
Justice: As a Father you are expected to not kill without just cause. This means that we do not hunt down people of Light races. We defend ourselves and all others from known groups of killers when ever we can.
Honor: Founding Fathers is an honorable guild. Founding Fathers will never lie, cheat, steal, or behave dishonorably. Even if a Father is not treated honorably we will still always deal honorably.
Trust: A Father can and will always be trusted. A Father will always live up to his word.
Loyalty: A Father will always be loyal to each other and our allies.

PvP
Fathers do not attack Light races (all races except Iksar, Ogre, Troll, Dark Elf) as a general rule. There are exceptions and they will be outlined in detail.
Fathers will defend our selves, our Fathers, and our allies in that order from any that attack us first.
As a Father you have the choice to kill or not to kill. That is the question. You do suffer faction loss from killing in certain areas and it is your choose to swing the killing blow or not. As a Father you will still always fight in defense of your Fathers and your allies. You can drive off the attackers or weaken them sufficiently; and then others that chose to can land the killing blow.
As a Father we can attack any that are from a known PKing (Player Killing) guild just as if they were Darkies. These guilds will be listed as KOS (Kill On Sight) in our friends and enemies area on the web page.
Personal vendettas (long term repeated attacks) against any light races are frowned upon. They often cause tension with our allies that we do not desire. As a Father if you have a personal vendetta against any one it is your responsibility to resolve it without guild aid. If your enemy gets help then you will have to ask for help outside of the guild. If this vendetta is against a member of an allied guild it is your responsibility to inform his guild that it is personal and that they should not aid him. This assumes that both of you have decided to carry this vendetta, if your opponent does not want to and his guild requests that you stop you will have to negotiate a resolution acceptable to all parties or you will have to choose between the vendetta and our guild. This applies the same if you want it ended and your opponent still attacks you. We will use our guild strength to force a resolution or the other guild will need to choose between this individual and our friendship.
All Rogeans rules will be followed by Founding Fathers. These are enforced by Amelinda and many of them are enforced by banning (your account is closed losing all your characters and items forever). As an honorable guild, Founding Fathers will not tolerate these activities from our Fathers.
We do encourage the use of LnS (Loot and Scoot): This is where the winner of a PvP battle will allow the loser to get his items and leave the zone or area for a period of time. The area can be negotiated, and can not be greater than the zone. An acceptable time is one hour. As a Father you will Always offer LnS, you can specify the area and you can specify the time up to one hour. If the opponent refuses to LnS then he is fair game. If any Father refuses to LnS then you suffer the consequences of your actions. Win or lose the fight a Father will always be polite: No spamming, no bad mouthing, and no whining to our guild, the opponents guild, or in shouts. If you are jumped by 6 Undying (now Brotherhood) and killed in the Karanas you can ooc: "Pack of six Brotherhood scum pack hunting near bridge able to hit a 35 th warrior. " You are not to ooc: "Stupid homo fag boys from Brotherhood killed me" You can use some appropriate phrases to convey your anger in character, but you are not to get abusive or repetitive.
No Father has the right to threaten with guild retaliation. You can and should call for guild aid, but only our Matron can threaten with a guild war. In a contested camp or KS situation: A Father is expected to be polite and share a camp if feasible. If the camp is being stolen and the opponents are not being fair, you are to tell them that they are not being fair and why you think so. Then if they continue to misbehave you are allowed to tell them you intend to fight them for the camp. You may fight them for the camp when all attempts at peaceful negations fail. You do not need to duel individually, it can be your camp group against the opposing camp group. Win or lose follow LS guidelines. Always tell the losers and all that witnessed the fight what happened and why.
Abusive and rude individuals: They are out there, some just want to ruin your day by being bad mouthed jerks. It is best to ignore them, next best to tell them to stop and apologize, next best is to fight them. Again explore all options for peace first, if a fight is necessary tell them why you fight and abide by all our honorable guidelines. Win or lose be polite, abide by LnS and do not whine. Now I am not saying that we as Fathers can not group up six strong and go hunting Darkies or PKing Lights. I say fight honorably by telling your opponents why you fight and always be polite. By all means if you find a single Brotherhood wiz medding feel free to jump him and kill him as fast as they would if the situation was reversed. Only be sure he knew you were there ahead of time and intend to fight, and you and your group behaved honorably and polite at all times.

No Aid Policy
Founding Fathers have a no aid policy as follows. I and many others personally believe that the best way to stop bad behavior is to not deal with misbehaving individuals, show them that they can not gain by misbehaving as easily as they can by behaving properly. No Father will aid any known member of a PK guild, or individuals listed as enemies. This means no buffing, no healling, no selling or buying items from them, and any other form of aid or comfort will be denied.
As a Father you can help a Darkie find his body or how to get out of the zone after a role play raid, if he is polite and you feel he needs help. You can help them abide by LnS guidelines and in all situations except aiding them get experience or gaining any advantage.
You can be in a group with a player pretending to be a Darkie if it is a tough camp to get into and a Father is not leading the group. In this case as a Father you should not buff or heal the player that looks like a Darkie until he stops looking like one. Tell him it is guild policy and that you can not aid him directly as long as he is pretending to be a Darkie, offer to leave the group if necessary. We cannot group with any "actual" darkies. There are whiners and they will whine, just stick to our principles and they will shut up or the group will boot them for being a pain in the ass.
Marriages to a known PKer or member of a PK guild is not acceptable to our guild. He can leave the offending guild and be redeemed by your love or you will have to follow him into the life of a PKer. Again you have free choice, and know the cost of your choices.

Recruitment Policy
Our recruitment policy is simple and outlined below.

As a possible recruit you must be a player of Norrath and be a playable race.
As a possible recruit you must have been to our web page, you must have read these policies and show you understand them.
As a recruit you need to be interviewed by an Officer. You need to demonstrate your understanding of our policies and show that you are willing to be a good member of our Fatherhood.

Explanations
No CCing (Corpse Camping): You must not wait at a fallen enemies corpse and kill him again before he has the opportunity to loot his items. It is best if you let him loot then either move away or attack you again first. If he does not do anything after he has looted his body for a minute then he is fair game again. It is important that you give the opportunity for him to loot and scoot.
No BCing (Bind point Camping): Same as CCing, except it is not legal to kill people at their bind point before they have opportunity to loot their body.
No BRing (Bind Rushing): This is where you return to your bind point and rush back into a fight with the same opponent over and over wearing him down and eventually killing him because you used multiple lives to unfairly kill him.
No KSing (Kill Stealing): This is the intentional taking a mob (no player/monster) away from a person who is already fighting it to steal his experience. A Father is expected to be polite and share camps when ever feasible. On a PvP server kill stealing and camp (monster spawn area) stealing are to be resolved in a PvP manner. If it is necessary to fight for your right to a camp you may do so if you have attempted all other options first. Abide by all rules in this fight, fight honorably and if you lose leave the camp as per LnS below.
No experience Killing: This is when you cause a player to die by a mob and lose experience. You can not attack anyone fighting a mob, you can not weaken a player then let a mob kill him, you can not heal or buff the mob against a player, and you can not intentionally train mobs onto anyone.
No harassment: As a Father it is not our policy to harass any one. There should never be any comments or actions taken out of character. We do not encourage any bad mouthing, flaming, spamming or other forms of harassment. I take this to include repeatedly killing some one that you have just killed.

[Amuk]

I follow that code strictly.

[kindred]

bamzal drowned from immersion

[Ordaga]

so there are no ogres in ff? and all recruits must be female? and honestly those massive pvp fights are over pixels so it doesn't mean jack shit if for 3 days you win the zone to only fail at killing the dragon

[bamzal]

http://i.imgur.com/247c5.jpg

[Andis]

epic post Bamzal

[Ordaga]

5) We do not team up with or group with any race taht is not a light race. We do not group with Dark Elves, Trolls, Ogres or Iksar.
1) As a possible recruit you must be a woman of Norrath and be a Light race.

im no troll material but enlighten me on how i read that wrong

[Mornin3.0]

5) We do not team up with or group with any race taht is not a light race. We do not group with Dark Elves, Trolls, Ogres or Iksar.
1) As a possible recruit you must be a woman of Norrath and be a Light race.

im no troll material but enlighten me on how i read that wrong

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74794

ordaga.. you got served...

[Shocker]

Lol good laughs