View Full Version : Alter End-Game Mechanics
Slave
05-11-2012, 07:16 PM
Removing variance and adding FTE shout to raid mobs is good enough. Then simulate full repop server crashes three times a month at set times to both add to the Classic feeling of the server, and sprinkle a little fun race mode into the game. In between, people can relax and level alts, trade, and explore.
(Of course, punishment will be severe for groups who continue to attack the now-obviously engaged mobs or otherwise subvert a raid: 1 warning of a 10 day suspension. 2nd violation results in the deleveling of the offending characters, 1% of total exp per level achieved in accordance with the SEQ fiasco. This will be a public enough shaming of the players involved and their guild leaders will know about it and be able to further punish them. 3rd violation results in character terminations. Mileage may vary but I feel this is a fair ruleset.)
This solution is elegant, simple, and most importantly, Classic. Best of all, it would mean the death of poopsocking and one-guild dominance. Bring the fun back to P99!
Let's all agree on one easy plan and get on with this. Something should be done.
Callnoutthenewbs
05-11-2012, 07:24 PM
Pretty sure most of us can aggree that the punishment for breaking the rules around here is a joke and has been ever since uthgaard left
amelinda is a joke that no one takes serious hence the vp pulling thru walls infront of her and alist of other things ie limp punishments that get lifted secretly <straight joke if you ask me<
This server really does need some other gm in charge that strikes fear into people for breaking the rules cause of right now its a joke, reason you see people rmt/exploiting/hacking ect right out in the open.
Torin_Stormchaser
05-11-2012, 07:25 PM
Just play the game as is and enjoy it. If you are hung up on one point, one item, one guild, one anything, do something else and enjoy playing.
Hitchens
05-11-2012, 07:52 PM
Removing variance and adding FTE shout to raid mobs is good enough.
Frieza_Prexus
05-11-2012, 08:42 PM
Pretty sure most of us can aggree that the punishment for breaking the rules around here is a joke and has been ever since uthgaard left
amelinda is a joke that no one takes serious hence the vp pulling thru walls infront of her and alist of other things ie limp punishments that get lifted secretly
You're right, this server would benefit from more proportional and codified punishments. Your examples, however, do not hold water. If you're interested in picking up the prosecutorial slack in the court of public opinion regarding your examples, I suggest you start here:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=591771&postcount=14
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=591737&postcount=46
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=592272&postcount=87
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593242&postcount=147
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593331&postcount=153
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593346&postcount=157
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593877&postcount=163
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=594047&postcount=178
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=594190&postcount=189
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=595124&postcount=218
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=601466&postcount=403
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-12-2012, 07:35 AM
In those very posts listed, she says that you were pulling mobs through walls to the ledge.
You were doing it to avoid trains (that faggotry you no-talent pussies started and has been made legal because there isn't enough manpower to police your bullshit in VP)
The fact she said it's okay is another matter altogether. To claim you weren't pulling mobs through walls so they would warp to the ledge is a flat out lie. You should be banned since she watched you do it. Period.
Alarti0001
05-12-2012, 09:16 AM
In those very posts listed, she says that you were pulling mobs through walls to the ledge.
You were doing it to avoid trains (that faggotry you no-talent pussies started and has been made legal because there isn't enough manpower to police your bullshit in VP)
The fact she said it's okay is another matter altogether. To claim you weren't pulling mobs through walls so they would warp to the ledge is a flat out lie. You should be banned since she watched you do it. Period.
Get a clue #1 They allowed training there before VP opened so it was legal before we started
Get a clue #2 The mobs weren't warping at certain parts of the zone the dragons would decide to take a linear path over a scripted path. Sometimes they would, sometimes they wouldn't. The dragons still ae'd properly, and we still got adds on bad pulls. We should absolutely not be banned . Period
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-12-2012, 09:18 AM
Pulling mobs through walls to the ledge is exploiting. You were exploiting, watched by a GM, and nothing happened.
That is shady as fuck, but par for the course on this server now.
This shit needs to stop. Punish cheaters, or just state on the front page that exploiting is legal.
Alarti0001
05-12-2012, 09:22 AM
Pulling mobs through walls to the ledge is exploiting. You were exploiting, watched by a GM, and nothing happened.
That is shady as fuck, but par for the course on this server now.
This shit needs to stop. Punish cheaters, or just state on the front page that exploiting is legal.
Nothing happened, because the fault was on zone design and not on the guild. Get your VP key and I'll hold your hand through the zone to show you how it works. Oh wait.......
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-12-2012, 09:35 AM
Taking advantage of zone design bugs/pathing/anything is the very definition of an exploit you stupid fuck.
Alarti0001
05-12-2012, 09:45 AM
Taking advantage of zone design bugs/pathing/anything is the very definition of an exploit you stupid fuck.
What advantage did we receive you ignorant rager?
Alarti0001
05-12-2012, 09:53 AM
This just in Harrison knows server rules better than game devs/gm's even when he isnt in the zone to see infractions, even when he doesnt have encounter logs.
Harrison is the Messiah
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-12-2012, 12:51 PM
I do know better, apparently, because the obvious exploiters aren't banned for exploiting.
Frieza_Prexus
05-12-2012, 03:23 PM
In those very posts listed, she says that you were pulling mobs through walls to the ledge.
You were doing it to avoid trains (that faggotry you no-talent pussies started and has been made legal because there isn't enough manpower to police your bullshit in VP)
The fact she said it's okay is another matter altogether. To claim you weren't pulling mobs through walls so they would warp to the ledge is a flat out lie. You should be banned since she watched you do it. Period.
False. All dragons are pulled in the same manner with the intent of using the pathing nodes for consistent and predictable pulls. You are suggesting a form of strict liability. You are suggesting that if a mob ever warps, that the pulling player is culpable even if they did not intend the result.
If nothing else, you are consistently proving that you do not understand the concept of justice. http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=642884&postcount=225
Perhaps that is why you're on your 4th forum account.
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-12-2012, 03:51 PM
4th forum account because there is no moderator who knows what they are doing.
Racism still running rampant on the forums, however. Reported, posted in petitions section, and still zero bans for racism from half a dozen posters reported for multiple offenses.
That is some nice deflection, though. Keep that spin machine going, no one is falling for it but you and your talentless chumps still cheating at Everquest in TMO.
Frieza_Prexus
05-12-2012, 04:00 PM
Please explain any deflections I've engaged in. I have tried to construct all of my posts so that they clearly and concisely address the topic at hand.
You, however, have continued to ignore any fact or argument that does not mesh with your opinion. Kindly explain what issue I've left unaddressed, and I will remedy it immediately.
In exchange, I expect answers from all of these posts leveled directly at you:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=591771&postcount=14
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=591737&postcount=46
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=592272&postcount=87
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593242&postcount=147
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593331&postcount=153
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593346&postcount=157
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593877&postcount=163
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=594047&postcount=178
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=594190&postcount=189
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=595124&postcount=218
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=601466&postcount=403
I look forward to your reasoned, direct, and attentive reply.
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-12-2012, 04:02 PM
You're pathetic if you can't own up to the fact you were exploiting on a videogame.
We all know you did it. No amount of rule lawyering, semantics, or any faggot nonsense can change it.
You were pulling mobs through walls to ledge for hours, in front of a GM. Fact.
somnia_will_return
05-12-2012, 04:10 PM
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/123/620/Oh-boy-here-we-go.jpg
quido
05-12-2012, 04:14 PM
Nobody was exploiting anything, Harrison. Exploitation implies intent.
Harrison, you are a dumbass.
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme2.jpg
Hey, you know, the roaming dar knight around king camp in lguk goes RIGHT through a THICK wall to get to his destination with less delay. I demand we ban the pathing system for employing this known exploit! durrrrrr
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-12-2012, 04:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwZJgGTsQoM
http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqx9xw.jpg
Jeremy and his old guild exploiting Phinigel, pulling him through a wall in the first month of the server. Now he's in TMO, the guild pulling mobs through walls regularly.
I see intent there. Knowingly bypassing seahorses via Z-axis exploiting.
Frieza_Prexus
05-12-2012, 04:22 PM
Once again, I have extended an offer of rational discourse to you, and you have completely thrown it in my face. For what it's worth, I forgive you.
Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why no one ever takes your side here? Why you never have people agreeing with you or why there is no one here for you?
You keep spitting in people's faces when they engage you. That's not how social interaction works. What will it take for you to understand that?
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-12-2012, 04:23 PM
Listen, retard, I'm not going to click around whatever nonsense rule lawyering you think you're going to use.
You can't talk your way out of facts. You're an exploiter. Just be a man and own up to your actions. Stop being a faggot.
somnia_will_return
05-12-2012, 04:30 PM
Once again, I have extended an offer of rational discourse to you, and you have completely thrown it in my face. For what it's worth, I forgive you.
Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why no one ever takes your side here? Why you never have people agreeing with you or why there is no one here for you?
You keep spitting in people's faces when they engage you. That's not how social interaction works. What will it take for you to understand that?
Everybody knows nothing will be done even if he did engage in rational discourse.
Frieza_Prexus
05-12-2012, 04:32 PM
Harrison, given that you're not an authority figure, I'm not "rules lawyering" at you. I'm simply rebutting your statements publicly.
But this is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't resist the urge to insult me because what I'm saying doesn't mesh with your view.
Try reasoning with people. You literally having nothing left to lose here.
somnia_will_return
05-12-2012, 04:42 PM
Given that you're not an authority figure, I'm not "rules lawyering" at you. I'm simply rebutting your statements publicly.
But this is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't resist the urge to insult me because what I'm saying doesn't mesh with your view.
Try reasoning with people. You literally having nothing left to lose here.
Reason doesn't exist here so what's the point in trying
Nirgon
05-12-2012, 05:00 PM
I think if you don't need the loot anymore, stop killing it right as it spawns.
Let the weaker guilds have some shit.
Alarti0001
05-12-2012, 05:03 PM
You can't talk your way out of facts. Just be a man and own up to your actions. .
Follow your own advice.
Slave
05-12-2012, 05:05 PM
Harrison, please post that video of the alleged exploitative pull again and tell me where you think the exploit occurs? I have killed Phinigel like 8 times in the last 2 weeks so I could probably see if there was any foul play involved.
Nirgon
05-12-2012, 05:37 PM
Harrison only has second hand information. If you want to troll him, get together and make up some big deal about something that happened in game then make fun of him for believing it a few months later.
somnia_will_return
05-12-2012, 07:48 PM
http://media.techeblog.com/images/video_game_cheats.jpg
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-13-2012, 03:22 AM
Harrison, please post that video of the alleged exploitative pull again and tell me where you think the exploit occurs? I have killed Phinigel like 8 times in the last 2 weeks so I could probably see if there was any foul play involved.
It's in the other thread and I have explained how the pull works multiple times, the video is proof of Jeremy/Trans exploiting and nothing was ever done about it (like every time a guild is caught cheating, nothing done)
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-14-2012, 07:02 PM
Bump
quido
05-14-2012, 07:05 PM
I'm proud to be considered such a crafty exploiter after playing Everquest for only about three weeks of my life. Harrison, you just wish you could be on my level.
We all know it was Jeremy, not Allizia, that masterminded that Phinny pull. Harrison can't even pull his dick without getting confused and/or angry.
azeth
05-15-2012, 04:07 AM
It's in the other thread and I have explained how the pull works multiple times, the video is proof of Jeremy/Trans exploiting and nothing was ever done about it (like every time a guild is caught cheating, nothing done)
harrison i have never killed phinny without pulling him in that fashion..
.. on live.
case closed.
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-15-2012, 07:43 AM
Two TMO admitting to exploiting, hardly surprising.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwZJgGTsQoM
http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqx9xw.jpg
Jeremy and his old guild exploiting Phinigel, pulling him through a wall in the first month of the server. Now he's in TMO, the guild pulling mobs through walls regularly.
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-18-2012, 02:24 PM
Bump. People need to know what guilds get away with for lack of punishments here.
Seaweedpimp
05-18-2012, 02:26 PM
thank god we have you to spread the message!
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-18-2012, 02:30 PM
Two TMO admitting to exploiting, hardly surprising.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwZJgGTsQoM
http://i46.tinypic.com/2zqx9xw.jpg
Jeremy and his old guild exploiting Phinigel, pulling him through a wall in the first month of the server. Now he's in TMO, the guild pulling mobs through walls regularly.
Silentone
05-18-2012, 02:57 PM
Bump for server staff to see Harrison trying to paint a grim picture of the server. Ban this clows IP,
Alarti0001
05-18-2012, 06:52 PM
Bump for server staff to see Harrison trying to paint a grim picture of the server. Ban this clows IP,
Harrison confirmed eqclassic undercover agent
HarrisonIsStillPosting
05-19-2012, 05:07 PM
Bump.
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