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lethdar
05-05-2012, 09:16 PM
I hear nizzarr booted lazortag for "being the worst bard ever", confirm/deny?

Lazortag
05-05-2012, 09:28 PM
Yes I was booted, no it wasn't because I'm a terribard (at least that's not the reason I was given).

Cwall
05-05-2012, 09:32 PM
kicked from the zerg guild?

man, you must have done something truly terrible

quido
05-05-2012, 09:35 PM
lol

456
05-05-2012, 09:42 PM
lol, countdown to wolrfram never logging in again...

Lazortag
05-05-2012, 09:53 PM
lol, countdown to wolrfram never logging in again...

I'm not quitting. But on that note - when's the last time you logged in? You're late for your scheduled dirtnapping.

456
05-05-2012, 09:55 PM
Server dead bro, you missed the memo?

hagard
05-05-2012, 10:22 PM
Big salty sowd me yesterday

hagard
05-05-2012, 10:26 PM
I hear nizzarr booted lazortag for "being the worst bard ever", confirm/deny?

Confirmed

SamwiseRed
05-06-2012, 12:59 AM
why did they kick the best bard on red99?

heartbrand
05-06-2012, 01:02 AM
because he petitioned Fallen aka Tune (fallen banned for boxing) for exploiting, using gbs instrument etc., of course tune only got a warning and is still officer of nihilum, cuz exploiting insta quit (admitted this in multiple threads), boxing, exploiting off hands etc., is approved by nihilum

SamwiseRed
05-06-2012, 01:05 AM
damn if he got kicked for being legit thats pretty fked up. too legit to zerg?

Humerox
05-06-2012, 02:35 PM
Not only did they boot him for being legit and reporting an exploit, they called him to come up to Hate to "help", booted him and then ganked him.

Luckily a Nihi wizzie helped him back in and he was able to recover.

Haul
05-06-2012, 03:51 PM
Not only did they boot him for being legit and reporting an exploit, they called him to come up to Hate to "help", booted him and then ganked him.

Luckily a Nihi wizzie helped him back in and he was able to recover.

lol

Mornin3.0
05-06-2012, 03:57 PM
Not only did they boot him for being legit and reporting an exploit, they called him to come up to Hate to "help", booted him and then ganked him.

Luckily a Nihi wizzie helped him back in and he was able to recover.

lol at anti griefer griefed by his own bluebie friends.. How you get kicked from Nihilum is beyond me... but im very proud of the way they handled it.

El Culo
05-06-2012, 04:01 PM
lol

Nirgon
05-06-2012, 04:12 PM
100% of your daily luls

As "funny" as this is, Lazortag was doing the right thing.

Had there been more like him, this server surely would have done better. I'd also tip my hat to Heartbrand here for doing the same.

YendorLootmonkey
05-06-2012, 04:38 PM
As "funny" as this is, Lazortag was doing the right thing.

Had there been more like him, this server surely would have done better. I'd also tip my hat to Heartbrand here for doing the same.

^^

456
05-06-2012, 04:52 PM
because he petitioned Fallen aka Tune (fallen banned for boxing) for exploiting, using gbs instrument etc., of course tune only got a warning and is still officer of nihilum, cuz exploiting insta quit (admitted this in multiple threads), boxing, exploiting off hands etc., is approved by nihilum

damn son, White Knight Wolfram exposing truth

456
05-06-2012, 04:54 PM
Tune not perma banned and Bruuce is?

Thats some corrupt ass shit if true

456
05-06-2012, 04:56 PM
Telling the tale of the bard, far and wide.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2377453

Zereh
05-06-2012, 05:08 PM
Too bad you're telling the wrong tale.

heartbrand
05-06-2012, 05:16 PM
I'm shocked Arzak ex GM still in this guild of exploiters / boxers / RMTers

456
05-06-2012, 05:39 PM
Too bad you're telling the wrong tale.

you support the cheater? Or the snitcher?

filthed5.0
05-06-2012, 06:32 PM
LOL WOLFRAM WORST BARD EVER, BOOTED FROM NIHILUM, SUICIDE WATCH 2012, POOR GUY DEFINETLY ONE OF THE FEW, THE SADS , THE LONELYS WHO PLAYS CRAP SERVER NO POP NO LIFE

Angkar
05-06-2012, 07:18 PM
Too bad you're telling the wrong tale.

So inform us then?

Btw, might head that way soon... will need proper drinks, and a "caddy". :D

Angkar
05-06-2012, 07:19 PM
In all seriousness, I have zero doubts this is true.

Admin / staff on record stating they hate a guild, guild gets member wide 2 week ban w/o warning.

Admin / staff hand out warning to blue zerg RMT guild... Would be funny if not true!

SamwiseRed
05-06-2012, 09:01 PM
staff does not support legit players.
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1215448_o.gif

Bruuce
05-06-2012, 10:10 PM
Tune not perma banned and Bruuce is?

Thats some corrupt ass shit if true

surely, a blessing in disguise.

after being kicked off the server and suspended on blue, ALSO because of an inept GM, wasnt expecting too much here. staff is fucking garbage.

Lazortag
05-06-2012, 11:45 PM
Too bad you're telling the wrong tale.

you support the cheater? Or the snitcher?

I don't really know how to interpret Zarah's post, but for the record she was the one who helped me out of Hate. I also got offered help from other members of the guild who were upset at the decision. Because I was actually in Nihilum I feel qualified to say that not everyone in the guild is a jackass, and not everyone in the guild has a dirty whistle. In fact most of the guild was very friendly, and very enjoyable to play with, and had nothing to do with the decision to boot me. As for why I was booted, it was because I allegedly reported Fallen for exploiting. Beyond that I don't really feel comfortable commenting about this publicly since what happened to me in Nihilum should probably stay between me and Nihilum.

Also please don't post shit about this on FoH because I don't have an account there and can't respond to someone if they're being really stupid.

Lemons
05-06-2012, 11:49 PM
Also please don't post shit about this on FoH because I don't have an account there and can't respond to someone if they're being really stupid.



wat?

456
05-07-2012, 12:01 AM
I don't really know how to interpret Zarah's post, but for the record she was the one who helped me out of Hate. I also got offered help from other members of the guild who were upset at the decision. Because I was actually in Nihilum I feel qualified to say that not everyone in the guild is a jackass, and not everyone in the guild has a dirty whistle. In fact most of the guild was very friendly, and very enjoyable to play with, and had nothing to do with the decision to boot me. As for why I was booted, it was because I allegedly reported Fallen for exploiting. Beyond that I don't really feel comfortable commenting about this publicly since what happened to me in Nihilum should probably stay between me and Nihilum.

Also please don't post shit about this on FoH because I don't have an account there and can't respond to someone if they're being really stupid.


If you register I can approve the account to post.


IMO you exposed corruption even though it was your own guild.


You deserve white knight status

HarrisonStillPosting
05-07-2012, 12:40 AM
In all seriousness, I have zero doubts this is true.

Admin / staff on record stating they hate a guild, guild gets member wide 2 week ban w/o warning.

Admin / staff hand out warning to blue zerg RMT guild... Would be funny if not true!

"WAAAH I WAS CAUGHT EXPLOITING AND GOT PUNISHED FOR IT WAAAH"

Fixed that for you. How's your griefed off the server life holding up for you?

El Culo
05-07-2012, 12:57 AM
How's your griefed off the server life holding up for you?

can we get a ruling from the grammar police on if this is irony or not?

Nirgon
05-07-2012, 11:47 AM
GKicks member for for reporting cheating within guild.

Claims member was worst bard on server.

See sig.

Diggles
05-07-2012, 12:26 PM
truly, a tragic loss for nilly.

jdklaw
05-07-2012, 12:27 PM
surely, a blessing in disguise.

after being kicked off the server and suspended on blue, ALSO because of an inept GM, wasnt expecting too much here. staff is fucking garbage.

banned for having relations with Salty

chosen one
05-07-2012, 12:33 PM
LOL nihilum kicks member who blows whistle on a cheater. Not sure whats worse nihilum as cheaters or lazorfag as a bard.

Supreme
05-07-2012, 12:36 PM
I don't really know how to interpret Zarah's post, but for the record she was the one who helped me out of Hate. I also got offered help from other members of the guild who were upset at the decision. Because I was actually in Nihilum I feel qualified to say that not everyone in the guild is a jackass, and not everyone in the guild has a dirty whistle. In fact most of the guild was very friendly, and very enjoyable to play with, and had nothing to do with the decision to boot me. As for why I was booted, it was because I allegedly reported Fallen for exploiting. Beyond that I don't really feel comfortable commenting about this publicly since what happened to me in Nihilum should probably stay between me and Nihilum.

Also please don't post shit about this on FoH because I don't have an account there and can't respond to someone if they're being really stupid.



This is why Wolfram is respected.

I do not know the story. But i do know that Wolfram was a good member. If there was anything to report he would have reported it.

But since there was nothing to report....i guess the trolls will have to starve.

Vulpix
05-07-2012, 12:58 PM
Supreme. Wolfram was booted from Nihilum for telling GMs about a Nihilum member being a cheating faggot.

This faggot was not banned just as Bruuce was banned.

The staff is corrupt as fuck which everyone knew when Holo was deleted for cheating the same way Nihilum cheated with no repercussion.

The server is corrupt as fuck and the population is a good representation of the sanctification levels.

Supreme
05-07-2012, 06:30 PM
Supreme. Wolfram was booted from Nihilum for telling GMs about a Nihilum member being a cheating faggot.

This faggot was not banned just as Bruuce was banned.

The staff is corrupt as fuck which everyone knew when Holo was deleted for cheating the same way Nihilum cheated with no repercussion.

The server is corrupt as fuck and the population is a good representation of the sanctification levels.

If you believe that i have a bridge in England that is falling down i would like to sell you.

kindred
05-07-2012, 06:46 PM
not everyone in the guild is a jackass.....

In fact most of the guild was very friendly



..... not everyone in the guild has a dirty whistle.....

.................................................. ................

Lazortag
05-07-2012, 09:22 PM
This is why Wolfram is respected.

I do not know the story. But i do know that Wolfram was a good member. If there was anything to report he would have reported it.

But since there was nothing to report....i guess the trolls will have to starve.

Thanks for the kind words. I didn't want to comment on this further but you said there was "nothing to report", which isn't true - Fallen was definitely exploiting, and it was dealt with by a GM.

SamwiseRed
05-07-2012, 09:33 PM
Thanks for the kind words. I didn't want to comment on this further but you said there was "nothing to report", which isn't true - Fallen was definitely exploiting, and it was dealt with by a GM.

SamwiseRed
05-07-2012, 09:36 PM
had no idea a guild would give you the boot because you had a clean whistle. cheating on a 13 year old fantasy mmo. must feel good to own this content by way of zerg and exploits. feel bad for the few legit players in Nilly. you guys should get out now before someone finally guild deletes that infestation.

Supreme
05-08-2012, 09:43 AM
So you saw Tune actually cheating or you saw something that you *thought* was cheating?

What did he gain? Holding two items that he should not have been able to hold?

Yaknow i have been able to *show* myself holding two items i have should not have been able to hold. I have been able to show myself Dual wielding as a SK! Didnt affect gameplay...i guess that was cheating too!

heartbrand
05-08-2012, 09:49 AM
Who to believe? Wolfram, annoying as fuck but known white knight of P99 who plays with integrity and honesty petitioning every single exploit he comes across, and has been established as a bastion of knowledge as it pertains to classic everquest, even if again he's annoying as fuck. OR, Fallen, banned for boxing, admitted to abusing /quit to instantly remove self from game, accused of duping items, griefed new players on server during launch of server by KSing mobs in newbie zones, etc. DIFFICULT CHOICE.

kindred
05-08-2012, 09:51 AM
Cheating guild's recruiter in full damage control mode.

"so what we are a cheating guild? we don't really get that much of an advantage!"

heartbrand
05-08-2012, 09:53 AM
RIP Bluecross, stolen from Basiah aka Ssleve by Skelly, banned for boxing after Skelly took over the account. Nihilum style baby.

Nirgon
05-08-2012, 11:43 AM
Think it's time for the Emp to slam ya'll like onyx again.

Humerox
05-08-2012, 12:55 PM
So you saw Tune actually cheating or you saw something that you *thought* was cheating?

What did he gain? Holding two items that he should not have been able to hold?

Yaknow i have been able to *show* myself holding two items i have should not have been able to hold. I have been able to show myself Dual wielding as a SK! Didnt affect gameplay...i guess that was cheating too!

The issue isn't Wolfram reporting something that may/may not have been an exploit. He was justified in reporting the exploit/bug w/e.

The issue is your guild's response to it. I'm assuming you weren't around...because you don't play that way. If I were you, I'd shake the tree a bit.

Amelinda
05-08-2012, 01:57 PM
So you saw Tune actually cheating or you saw something that you *thought* was cheating?

What did he gain? Holding two items that he should not have been able to hold?

Yaknow i have been able to *show* myself holding two items i have should not have been able to hold. I have been able to show myself Dual wielding as a SK! Didnt affect gameplay...i guess that was cheating too!

in classic eq, equipping an instrument and equipping a weapon simultaneously is an exploit. If i catch someone doing this, the first time They generally get a pretty severe warning. Second time you get a nice fat suspension.

PS: I NEVER just warn for boxing.

chosen one
05-08-2012, 02:03 PM
So you saw Tune actually cheating or you saw something that you *thought* was cheating?

What did he gain? Holding two items that he should not have been able to hold?

Yaknow i have been able to *show* myself holding two items i have should not have been able to hold. I have been able to show myself Dual wielding as a SK! Didnt affect gameplay...i guess that was cheating too!

in classic eq, equipping an instrument and equipping a weapon simultaneously is an exploit. If i catch someone doing this, the first time They generally get a pretty severe warning. Second time you get a nice fat suspension.

PS: I NEVER just warn for boxing.

supreme confirmed exploiting, amelinda confirmed pretending to care.

Lazortag
05-08-2012, 02:32 PM
So you saw Tune actually cheating or you saw something that you *thought* was cheating?

What did he gain? Holding two items that he should not have been able to hold?

Yaknow i have been able to *show* myself holding two items i have should not have been able to hold. I have been able to show myself Dual wielding as a SK! Didnt affect gameplay...i guess that was cheating too!

Because I'm not an asshole, I asked Fallen first why he was holding a GBS and a drum at the same time, to see if it was intentional or not. His response was "y not lol". So I highly doubt I was just hallucinating and *thought* I saw a big glowing red orb and a drumstick being held at the same time, because he admitted to doing it. I also inspected him to confirm that he was holding the GBS at the same time. This does affect gameplay, because it gives him an extra 10 MR that he shouldn't have. I think this is a pretty big deal, but even if you don't think it is, you don't get to decide what exploits are severe enough to warrant reporting. Amelinda says it's an exploit, so it's an exploit. Also, there are only two ways to do this, one involves looting a corpse a certain way, and the other involves macroquest. Do you still think one wouldn't be justified in reporting this?

Moreover, like Karox said, it's not just that Fallen was using an exploit. It's that him and Troriste unilaterally decided that me reporting it was grounds for removal from the guild, plus being ported to hate, ganked, and left to have my corpse stranded there for a week, with no explanation at all. Why couldn't you guys just tell me you were removing me from the guild, instead of tricking me into coming to hate? I mentioned all this in my goodbye post on the Nilly forums, but my guess is that it was censored before anyone could see it. I was never given the chance to defend myself, while Fallen (someone who 2-boxed and even got one of Troriste's accounts permanently banned in the process - in addition to losing all of the loot the guild awarded him) was considered more trustworthy than me. How does that make any sense? Sorry Supreme, you have no case.

heartbrand
05-08-2012, 02:38 PM
Wolfram new hero of the server confirmed

Mornin3.0
05-08-2012, 02:39 PM
Yaknow i have been able to *show* myself holding two items i have should not have been able to hold. I have been able to show myself Dual wielding as a SK! Didnt affect gameplay...i guess that was cheating too!

supreme admits to exploits.. no punishment will be given.. server no better than vztz.. dead box.. nice try bluebies trying convince people your GMs gave a shit..

Nirgon
05-08-2012, 02:42 PM
Wolfram learning the lesson I've been trying to teach all along.

When will people get it? Lol.

Have fun!

heartbrand
05-08-2012, 02:43 PM
First time train offense that was due to scareling port into temple: 30 day suspension.

Convicted and admitted exploiter/two boxer continuing to exploit: don't do that again bad boy

Sever confidence in fairness: all time low

Don't worry tho I'm sure there's some nobody Druids staring up trying to PL a melee alt in an abandoned zone that desperately need perma bans from server

Nirgon
05-08-2012, 02:48 PM
There's some consistency here that leaves quite a bit to be explained.

I don't think there's intentional corruption.

Lazortag
05-08-2012, 02:48 PM
Heartbrand, please stop posting in this thread and please stop saying that you support me. It makes me look bad.

Mornin3.0
05-08-2012, 02:49 PM
for vztz being so bad and lasting years... whats red99?

Mornin3.0
05-08-2012, 02:50 PM
Heartbrand, please stop posting in this thread and please stop saying that you support me. It makes me look bad.

lol

456
05-08-2012, 02:53 PM
I support Lazortag

Nirgon
05-08-2012, 02:54 PM
In the end of things, I'd love to hear what the top thinks the real reasons for any failures were and how they may have differed from my reasoning.

To be fair, really, I kept it constructive for a while and still .. well I'm not on team burn it down :P.

Too bad : /

456
05-08-2012, 02:54 PM
First time train offense that was due to scareling port into temple: 30 day suspension.

Convicted and admitted exploiter/two boxer continuing to exploit: don't do that again bad boy

Sever confidence in fairness: all time low

Don't worry tho I'm sure there's some nobody Druids staring up trying to PL a melee alt in an abandoned zone that desperately need perma bans from server

you outin me bro?

heartbrand
05-08-2012, 02:54 PM
Heartbrand, please stop posting in this thread and please stop saying that you support me. It makes me look bad.

Support you 2000% big wolf aroooooo. Server champion wolfram. In all seriousness you bought into the nihilum propaganda, I tried to explain that to you but you we bipolar. I saw nihilum from the inside, everything in vent was about exploiting, how can we exploit nagafen / vox / sky / kunark etc. they got some real doozies planned for kunark. If you thought dragons in the wall was the tip of the iceberg wait till you get a load of what they have in store.

456
05-08-2012, 02:55 PM
In the end of things, I'd love to hear what the top thinks the real reasons for any failures were and how they may have differed from my reasoning.

To be fair, really, I kept it constructive for a while and still .. well I'm not on team burn it down :P.

Too bad : /

There is a rule on this server, you CANNOT QUESTION GM DECISIONS.


So enjoy your ban motherfucker.


<3

Nirgon
05-08-2012, 03:07 PM
#1 - I'm not a mother fucker, sir.
#2 - I never said the staff was incompetent, incapable or didn't care.
#3 - I've clearly said there's no staff corruption that I can prove.

I merely say its unfortunate that so many people ended up on the wrong side of a decision with a certain party (who has been slammed numerous times for bannable offenses on this project) so consistently. I think that's just how it worked out, and it's a shame what has happened as a result.

Inb4 CUZ WE WERE THE GOOD GUYS, luls.

Nirgon
05-08-2012, 03:09 PM
And actually you're totally allowed to kick and then PK a member for reporting someone cheating. That is not a warnable/suspendable/bannable offense. You can gkick or PK someone for any reason you want :P.

456
05-08-2012, 03:09 PM
side of a decision

You are talking about a gm decision.

That's a bannable offense sir.



There has been a lot of petitions lately, a lot of posts on the forums, with everyone trying to critique GM Decisions. The developers of this project put way too much time into this for us to be put on the spotlight every single time we make a decision, ESPECIALLY when you ASSUME you know all the facts. 90% of the time, you don't. Situations are handled between the staff and the players directly involved. Any dialog between a GM and a player can be considered a private matter, and will not be open to public debate. Players will divulge their interactions with GM's as they see fit, maybe giving all details and maybe not disclosing all of it, and quite possible they themselves aren't aware of every point of consideration in a staff decision.

I'm getting quite tired of everything being questioned, everyone assuming they are experts in every decision being made. Its getting old quite fast. We make decisions based on our best judgements, often discussing large impacting decisions with several staff members first. You are welcome to report anything you may believe to be unjustified use of GM privileges to the petition forum or Nilbog and myself, but this would only be in situations where you believe a GM did not act as they are instructed so, and an investigation may occur, but do not think that this suddenly privies you to all information associated with any decision. I realize that the environment for our community is a little more open than such organizations as SOE Itself, with more direct involvement in the community by the developers, but there are certain ways things need to be handled, and they wont always be agreed on by everyone, but thats how it is in any scenario. Many of us, including myself, do not play on the server. That means we spend all of our time working to better the server, and handling the issues that arise. We make decisions based on our best judgement, with no favoritism for any play character connections, so you will have to trust in our opinions for the health of the server.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3278

jdklaw
05-08-2012, 03:14 PM
RIP Bluecross, stolen from Basiah aka Ssleve by Skelly, banned for boxing after Skelly took over the account. Nihilum style baby.

lol you must not be a very good lawyer

Lazortag
05-08-2012, 04:20 PM
Support you 2000% big wolf aroooooo. Server champion wolfram. In all seriousness you bought into the nihilum propaganda, I tried to explain that to you but you we bipolar. I saw nihilum from the inside, everything in vent was about exploiting, how can we exploit nagafen / vox / sky / kunark etc. they got some real doozies planned for kunark. If you thought dragons in the wall was the tip of the iceberg wait till you get a load of what they have in store.

What propaganda did I buy into? Did you think I was ignorant of the fact that there are dirty whistles in the guild? I'd like to reiterate that the vast majority of Nihilum members didn't cheat or exploit (at least not blatantly). When they did exploit I reported it if I thought it was particularly bad. If I wasn't in the guild, I wouldn't have been able to report these exploits. Like I said before you should probably stop posting, you're a compulsive liar and honestly kind of insane, and when you say you're supporting me it just makes me look worse.

Lazortag
05-08-2012, 04:26 PM
Also, I should mentioned I was the first person to report any suspicious activity regarding the Naggy fights, when Rogean posted the logs in the "Nagafen on red" thread in the bugs forum. I always thought they exploited Naggy and still do (I even put it in my application). However while I was in the guild I never saw them exploit a raid mob.

Rydar
05-08-2012, 04:27 PM
Heartbrand = friendless worm of the server

engelbert
05-08-2012, 04:27 PM
double posting cuz ur mad

heartbrand
05-08-2012, 04:44 PM
Mellowyellow = 5 months to hit 50 as an enchanter, laughing stock of his guild and server, has more deaths than half of server combined

heartbrand
05-08-2012, 04:46 PM
Trading manastones by the way to people who point out lies in anything I've posted about the server.

Tecumseh
05-08-2012, 07:44 PM
Dont fuck with Wolfram. The only guy I know who would petition to have his own class nerfed in order to maintain classic integrity.

jdklaw
05-09-2012, 02:40 AM
Mellowyellow = 5 months to hit 50 as an enchanter, laughing stock of his guild and server, has more deaths than half of server combined

everyone loves mellow. hes outgoing and takes jokes like a champ. hes always helpful and isnt a pussy whiner

Supreme
05-09-2012, 10:46 AM
Some of you give idiots a bad name.

Anyone here that wants to pretend that glitches and graphic bugs do not exist and are somehow "exploiting" need to delete your characters and quit Everquest.

It has been happening since BETA where glitches (even in displayed inventory) happen. I have inspected someone that is a wizard and his inventory showed all warrior gear. I have seen dual wielding characters that should not be able to dual wield..even have seen people getting "glitched" display of Armor (yaknow DE form wearing plate).


Yet none of these are "exploits". None of it gives a player an unfair advantage.

But i guess the defeated need something to talk about....so keep talking.

beowulf420
05-09-2012, 10:49 AM
some things never change

Nirgon
05-09-2012, 11:17 AM
I have also seen the loot bug actually work with Fallen and people do this intentionally on blue.

Greegon
05-09-2012, 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarrisonStillPosting View Post
How's your griefed off the server life holding up for you?

can we get a ruling from the grammar police on if this is irony or not?

Sounds like a job for annoying-ass ME!

How(is!)s your(possesive your!) griefed-off-the-server-life holding up for you?
Grammatically, I want to say... fine. Kind of really bored of Harrison now though, gonna give it the ZZZZZzz stamp

heartbrand
05-09-2012, 11:31 AM
in classic eq, equipping an instrument and equipping a weapon simultaneously is an exploit. If i catch someone doing this, the first time They generally get a pretty severe warning. Second time you get a nice fat suspension.

PS: I NEVER just warn for boxing.

jdklaw
05-09-2012, 11:37 AM
heartbrand getting bitch slapped by Wolfram even though hes trying to support him haha

Mornin3.0
05-09-2012, 12:07 PM
heartbrand getting bitch slapped by Wolfram even though hes trying to support him haha

Retti drunk off Rogeans Koolaid. Gonna be tough hangover when you wake up.

heartbrand
05-09-2012, 12:21 PM
A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

heartbrand
05-09-2012, 12:21 PM
Meant to post this one but w/e =p

An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it. Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy.

Rydar
05-09-2012, 12:24 PM
^^ fails at wikipedia copy paste.

now get back out there on the street corner with your Liberty Tax sign, your boss obviously is not getting his moneys worth out of you surfing p99 forums at his receptionist desk.

heartbrand
05-09-2012, 12:26 PM
Lol rydar you're so bad at trolling it makes me smile =)

Lazortag
05-09-2012, 12:26 PM
Some of you give idiots a bad name.

Anyone here that wants to pretend that glitches and graphic bugs do not exist and are somehow "exploiting" need to delete your characters and quit Everquest.

It has been happening since BETA where glitches (even in displayed inventory) happen. I have inspected someone that is a wizard and his inventory showed all warrior gear. I have seen dual wielding characters that should not be able to dual wield..even have seen people getting "glitched" display of Armor (yaknow DE form wearing plate).


Yet none of these are "exploits". None of it gives a player an unfair advantage.

But i guess the defeated need something to talk about....so keep talking.

I know all about the inspect bug and all the other bugs you mentioned; this isn't new to me. I also know that you're very unlikely to get a false positive when a player appears to be holding the item both when you inspect and when you don't. You have to admit that even had Fallen not admitted to me that he was holding both at the same time, it's far less likely that it was a graphical glitch because the exploit is very easy to pull off, and Fallen is known for breaking the rules. But this is irrelevant anyway because as I said in my previous post (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=640951&postcount=61), Fallen DID admit to me that he was holding both at the same time. Personally I think it's very weak that you would resort to calling this a graphical glitch when I'm sure Fallen wouldn't deny to you that he was holding both items at once. That would be like me training you and saying that what you witnessed was just a "graphical glitch".

Moreover, even if everything you said was true, that still wouldn't justify Fallen/Troriste's behaviour towards me. I'm not here to qq about that or anything, but you're spreading misinformation and I have to correct you.

heartbrand
05-09-2012, 12:28 PM
That would be like me training you and saying that what you witnessed was just a "graphical glitch".

lol'ed while on the phone @ this

Nirgon
05-09-2012, 12:29 PM
Supreme's only admitted to MQ use with a "so what" stuck after it.

Don't waste your breath.

Uthgaard isn't around to slam dunk on these clowns so don't bother baiting anything.