What does a new player with no classic background...

[Zionized]

Hi ! I haven't seen any other section in the forum for new players so I will ask questions here and hopefully I'm not at the wrong place.


I've been lurking around on and off and I'm about to start playing. The first time I played EQ, Planes of Power just got out. So I'm not that much familiar with anything prior to that. I do understand that it was tougher, longer. I remember certain details about death penalty and such but really, even after reading stickies on the forums, and the 'getting started', I feel the need to ask because I hate not being prepared.

FYI, I played on Shards of Dalaya ( another EMU ) for 2 years not too long ago, so I'm trying to 'deconstruct' anything that might pose a problem to my experience here.


1 - Do classes work the way they are 'supposed to ' ? Rogues Rangers are DPS. SKs, Paladins, warriors are tanks... etc ?

2 - Which classes in classic posed the best solo options ? ( My knowledge tells me necros, druids and bards to some extent were the best )

3 - Which classes in raiding, are the most important yet unplayed ?

4 - Is the population active enough to warrant finding group at any level and pretty much any given timezone ?

5 - Any tips on trading, getting plats, experience zones, etc ?

Other things I should know before stepping in the abyss of non-EXPness ? :p

[somnia]

1) Yes except Rangers blow
2) Necro/Druid are safest solo options. Bard will be fastest if you can learn to AoE kite. Most casting classes in general can solo but some are faster than others. SK can fear kite but it's not ridiculously fast.
3) Enchanter/Cleric/Bard. There's really only one true raiding guild on the server and they're pretty intense.
4) No.
5) Hang out in EC tunnels for 1-10ish and beg for free buffs from high levels. You can zoom to 10 really fast there.

[Zionized]

1) Yes except Rangers blow
2) Necro/Druid are safest solo options. Bard will be fastest if you can learn to AoE kite. Most casting classes in general can solo but some are faster than others. SK can fear kite but it's not ridiculously fast.
3) Enchanter/Cleric/Bard. There's really only one true raiding guild on the server and they're pretty intense.
4) No.
5) Hang out in EC tunnels for 1-10ish and beg for free buffs from high levels. You can zoom to 10 really fast there.

Do they blow that much ? That's pretty much the only class I played with a passion...? :X

[Danyelle]

1. That debatable. It's an emulator. There's a few snags here and there depending on the class but overall it's well sorted out.

2. Necros, Bards, Druids. Yes. Mages also become amazing at higher levels but, due to the pet nerf, they aren't that great at xp soloing. Only at named/item/plat soloing/farming. This is especially true once they get their epic.

3. Every class usually has some form of benefit. In my opinion, the "most important" thing is a matter of perspective and situation. Also if you're asking because you want to have us tell you what class to play. Don't do that. Almost every new player thread here has them asking that question. It's not Everquest if you don't play what you think would be the most fun class/race combos.

4.Yes it is.

5. Buy low sell high. And save things like hides and silks. And of course the long lasting tradition of "loot and sell EVERYTHING".

[Zionized]

1. That debatable. It's an emulator. There's a few snags here and there depending on the class but overall it's well sorted out.

2. Necros, Bards, Druids. Yes. Mages also become amazing at higher levels but, due to the pet nerf, they aren't that great at xp soloing. Only at named/item/plat soloing/farming. This is especially true once they get their epic.

3. Every class usually has some form of benefit. In my opinion, the "most important" thing is a matter of perspective and situation. Also if you're asking because you want to have us tell you what class to play. Don't do that. Almost every new player thread here has them asking that question. It's not Everquest if you don't play what you think would be the most fun class/race combos.

4.Yes it is.

5. Buy low sell high. And save things like hides and silks. And of course the long lasting tradition of "loot and sell EVERYTHING".

3 ) It's not so much about telling me what to play that I already played everything in PoP and on the EMU. I hate games that level up too fast ( any new MMOs ) but I'm realistic enough to realize that I might get turned off if I pick a ' hard ' class to solo. :)

[Danyelle]

3 ) It's not so much about telling me what to play that I already played everything in PoP and on the EMU. I hate games that level up too fast ( any new MMOs ) but I'm realistic enough to realize that I might get turned off if I pick a ' hard ' class to solo. :)

Oh I understand that. lol I'm just saying, part of the experience of the game is to play what you think would be cool or what you enjoy. Why I hate, for example, seeing 99% of every warrior on the server being a freaking Ogre.

[somnia]

Oh I understand that. lol I'm just saying, part of the experience of the game is to play what you think would be cool or what you enjoy. Why I hate, for example, seeing 99% of every warrior on the server being a freaking Ogre.

It's all about min/maxing. It's all about #winning.

[Atmas]

Do they blow that much ? That's pretty much the only class I played with a passion...? :X

They have a half joking stigma attached to them here. More so on the forums than in the game. I don't think Rangers really came out of their shell so to speak until Luclin, AAs really turned the class around. Not to say there aren't several skilled Rangers here who can make good use of their utility.

In any case you should play a class you enjoy (after reviewing the hybrid xp penalty modifiers). Plus less loot competition!

[Zionized]

Oh I understand that. lol I'm just saying, part of the experience of the game is to play what you think would be cool or what you enjoy. Why I hate, for example, seeing 99% of every warrior on the server being a freaking Ogre.

Wood Elf ranger says hi !

[Nimoorhs]

1) Yes except Rangers blow
2) Necro/Druid are safest solo options. Bard will be fastest if you can learn to AoE kite. Most casting classes in general can solo but some are faster than others. SK can fear kite but it's not ridiculously fast.
3) Enchanter/Cleric/Bard. There's really only one true raiding guild on the server and they're pretty intense.
4) No.
5) Hang out in EC tunnels for 1-10ish and beg for free buffs from high levels. You can zoom to 10 really fast there.

There's a few raiding guilds.

Shammys are much more desirable in grps/raids because of haste/slow than druid.

Bards are most desirable end game raiding class atm and bard kiting is retarded fast xp.

EC is the way to go ^^ hq bear pelts go for 20 pp trash pelts for 1-2pp and the buffs let you own the zone. once u get a few pelts auction them for a wep or something and someone will pity you and hook it up. if you see opulence/nocsucow in the zone send me a tell and ill give you some pp to get you started.

[Zionized]

They have a half joking stigma attached to them here. More so on the forums than in the game. I don't think Rangers really came out of their shell so to speak until Luclin, AAs really turned the class around. Not to say there aren't several skilled Rangers here who can make good use of their utility.

In any case you should play a class you enjoy (after reviewing the hybrid xp penalty modifiers). Plus less loot competition!


Oh right, no AAs, no AM3...

It is somewhat true mage classes are more popular, in terms of population ?

[Egil]

Do they blow that much ? That's pretty much the only class I played with a passion...? :X

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[Danyelle]

Oh right, no AAs, no AM3...

It is somewhat true mage classes are more popular, in terms of population ?

HAHAHA no.

Druid is most plentiful class on P99 atm. If the graphs presented by the "Norrathian Organization for Experienced Players" (NOExP) is to be believed, Druids make up like 40% of the server.

[Zionized]

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Haha, good one. But in reality, can they follow mage classes and other DPS classes in raids ?

[Broot]

Wizard is consistently one of the most sought after raid members and least played on the server. They solo quite well, but aren't very highly sought after for groups.

[Danyelle]

Wizard is consistently one of the most sought after raid members and least played on the server. They solo quite well, but aren't very highly sought after for groups.

This is true. Even if only for planar ports. They also do decent dps on raid mobs depending on what the mob is.

Mages themselves are actually desired on raids as well, for CoTH, and summoned items such as cancel magic sticks etc etc. Though usually their role can be filled by one or two mages and not many are needed.

Also I think I misunderstood your question at first. I thought you were asking if mages were one of the more plentiful classes on the server, though looking back at it, it looks like you were asking if they were simply more numerous than Rangers. If the later is the case, yes, if I remember correctly they are more numerous than rangers. I'm too lazy to look up the thread with the graphs but I think my memory serves me well on that.

They are not, by any stretch of the imagination, the most numerous class on the server, however.

[Zionized]

This is true. Even if only for planar ports. They also do decent dps on raid mobs depending on what the mob is.

Mages themselves are actually desired on raids as well, for CoTH, and summoned items such as cancel magic sticks etc etc. Though usually their role can be filled by one or two mages and not many are needed.

Also I think I misunderstood your question at first. I thought you were asking if mages were one of the more plentiful classes on the server, though looking back at it, it looks like you were asking if they were simply more numerous than Rangers. If the later is the case, yes, if I remember correctly they are more numerous than rangers. I'm too lazy to look up the thread with the graphs but I think my memory serves me well on that.

They are not, by any stretch of the imagination, the most numerous class on the server, however.

What section is the thread in? I'm gonna take a glance! :)

Sorry for the vague question, when I said mage classes, i meant the whole shebang, Wizards, Mages, necros. I heard they were very popular but you already* refuted with the druid argument!

[Egil]

In the 50-60 level range your class breakdown in order of most played to least:

1) Druid

2) Shaman
3) Cleric
4) Necromancer

5) Monk
6) Rogue

7) Enchanter

8) Magician
9) Warrior
10) Shadow Knight

11) Bard
12) Wizard
13) Ranger
14) Paladin

[Sithel1988]

zionized. start in kelethin if you are new. not the fastest area to level up in. that would probably be blackburrow area. those dam gnoll fangs stack and give a hell of alot of xp. but kelethin in gfay has more new players to hang out with.

[Zionized]

zionized. start in kelethin if you are new. not the fastest area to level up in. that would probably be blackburrow area. those dam gnoll fangs stack and give a hell of alot of xp. but kelethin in gfay has more new players to hang out with.


Seems pretty dead right now but yeah, there's a couple of players around :P

[Sithel1988]

there may be some people in CB too /who all crush

[Zionized]

Is it wise to keep bone chips / bat wings to sell for necros / levitate ? Any other items i could stack for decent plat ?

Zodiakk Wood Elf ranger if you want to answer in game =)

[Yanomamo]

Bone chips, yeah. Batwings can be purchased at a vendor, however.