Velious Drool Thread!

[Splorf22]

I read the 'mob camping rules thread' and my brain nearly imploded, so lets have a fun thread!

What items are you looking forward to in Velious?

Personally I'm going for the 10th Ring. Not only do you get it in an insanely cool event, but its +10hp/tick regen and doesn't have the snaring effect of the Fungi Staff.

[Crazyeye]

Mrylokar's Dagger of Vengeance
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE PLACEABLE
Slot: RANGE PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: Piercing Atk Delay: 19
DMG: 15 Dmg Bonus: 23 AC: 15
Backstab DMG: 15
Skill Mod: Backstab +12% (34 Max)
STR: +15 DEX: +10 STA: +5 AGI: +10 HP: +100
SV FIRE: +10 SV DISEASE: +10 SV COLD: +10 SV MAGIC: +10 SV POISON: +10
Required level of 55.
Effect: Feast of Blood (Combat, Casting Time: Instant)
WT: 1.0 Size: TINY
Class: ROG
Race: ALL

[Hitchens]

Not a drop, but this is what I'm drooling for:

http://i48.tinypic.com/2isavlu.jpg

[Danyelle]

Best thing ever (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spelllist.html?name=Monster+Summoning&type=any&level=--N%2FA--&opt=Only&action=search)

[muttonchops]

Yes please.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6099

[Schortt]

Can't wait to race other people to rare ground spawns!

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4970

[Danyelle]

Yes please.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6099

>Capacity: 12

ohohoho House of Thule you silly expansion. Still, 12 capacity is small time.

Get on my level. (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=104145)

[Metallikus]

I read the 'mob camping rules thread' and my brain nearly imploded, so lets have a fun thread!

What items are you looking forward to in Velious?

Personally I'm going for the 10th Ring. Not only do you get it in an insanely cool event, but its +10hp/tick regen and doesn't have the snaring effect of the Fungi Staff.

Are you going to trio the ring war?

[falkun]

1) I will be happy that the factions and sheer amount of raid content will split up the raid scene more.

2) I will be getting my paladin his Nature's Defender (thank God leveling another hybrid will be easier in Velious without the 40% exp penalty).

3) Water Elemental shoulder

4) Primal spear (I love the look of that spear).

5) Siren Song &/or Nature's Melody

[Daldaen]

Are you going to trio the ring war?

With bard probably could do it.

As for the thread:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=29687

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=1200 -- Only reason I'm doing TSes!

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=30168 -- Don't 100% recall when foci go in but I thought it was near velious launch / mid-velious... but ya I'll take this + the quest is fun.

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=1208 -- Praise be to Tunare for all the bad halfling druids who can't use this which lets vindi head permarot after the 1st week.

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31050 -- Such a mana saver (note who its updated by)

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=28514 -- Since it is unlikely I'll be able to get epic before then.


But yea, Velious is a quest gold-mine for useful gear and most of them are good fun. Several will require friends though so I may need to join a guild for a few!

[fischsemmel]

I'm just excited about it because there are a million and one items, places, and mobs that I never had, visited, or killed, back on live... but I plan to do those things here!

[Susano]

Are you going to trio the ring war?

Nah man, he'll just join a guild for a while and convince them an enchanter needs this over a melee, then rage out over something silly and deguild with his ring. EASY PEASY!

Ring of Dain Frostreaver IV
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: FINGER
Charges: Unlimited
AC: 10
STR: +10 STA: +10 HP: +100
SV MAGIC: +10
Effect: Frostreaver's Blessing (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: Instant)
WT: 0.1 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)

Frostreaver's Blessing
Classes:

None

Description

1: Increase Hitpoints by 10 per tick
2: Increase Damage Shield by 10
4: Stacking: Block new spell if slot 5 is effect 'ATK' and < 1010
5: Increase ATK by 10
6: Stacking: Block new spell if slot 2 is effect 'Damage Shield' and < 1010

LOOKS LIKE AN ENCHANTER ITEM TO ME!

Or maybe there's some secret to solo it that involves puppet strings...

[Daldaen]

Or involving, highsun every single mob and use the dwarf NPCs on singles with you?

[Grozmok]

Not all want items have to be uber.

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/4/6/463a8554bd242d2b07cbf059de3c485f.png

Also, Paladin Anal Probe:

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/8/9/89fd2e75c1df0e9a250755b3e6d7889b.png

[Fazlazen]

I wouldn't waste time doing tradeskills for the 8th shawl. As much as I would love them to make it available anyways, shawl in velious stop at 7.

and the giants during the ring war were pretty much unkittable at first, unless you put a tank on them, they wouldnt aggro the player and go straight for thurg. Kiting 90 % of the giants by a bard didn't work, in classic EQ.

[happyhappy]

Greenmist! Raar.

[Asher]

Can't wait to race other people to rare ground spawns!

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4970

Follow your link. I dont think it is a ground spawn. It sounds like it is a trap that pops the item.

Asher

[Harm]

I wouldn't worry about having help for the ring war, people will come just for the faction hits. It'll be puggable after not too long.

I'm looking forward to pulling Kael Drakkal on my SHD. Thought I don't know how long it'll take me to get my level up to get there. Some of the most fun I had until tanking trash in Tactics.

[Szeth]

I wouldn't waste time doing tradeskills for the 8th shawl. As much as I would love them to make it available anyways, shawl in velious stop at 7.

and the giants during the ring war were pretty much unkittable at first, unless you put a tank on them, they wouldnt aggro the player and go straight for thurg. Kiting 90 % of the giants by a bard didn't work, in classic EQ.

not kiting. highsun

[Ciel]

ToV.

[webrunner5]

Swiftbalde of Zek was always my goal in Kael. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5745

[Danyelle]

I was never a fan of Temple of Veeshan. It literally felt like Veeshan's Peak 2.0 to me, and I was never a fan of Veeshan's Peak either. I also didn't much like Sleeper's Tomb due to the fact that, with the sole exception of the giant 'sewer pipe' that led to the drop off into freezing waters where you entered Kerafyrm's lair, the rest of the zone was bland and cold to me. Which I suppose was the intent but still.

That's just the thing though, besides those two zones, I loved EVERY single other Velious zone. Which is far more than I can say for Kunark. I have a love/hate relationship with Siren's Grotto though. I love the zone, I hate it's inhabitants.

[mwatt]

Holgresh Elder Beads

[Splorf22]

Nah man, he'll just join a guild for a while and convince them an enchanter needs this over a melee, then rage out over something silly and deguild with his ring. EASY PEASY!

Wow, are you guys really so butthurt about me leaving VD that you are going to try and bash me on the forums? I really have no idea why, seeing as how I had 200dkp when I left and 0 dragon/god items, unlike both of you guys I might add.

And yes, trying to trio the Ring War sounds like a lot of fun :D

[Daldaen]

Show me a link of the 8th shawl being added in luclin era...

[happyhappy]

http://web.archive.org/web/20021104070258/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/archives/Update_0502.html

May 10th :(

[Daldaen]

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020508.html

Adjustments have been made to the 8th Coldain Prayer Shawl quest.

May 8th but it just says adjustments... no mention of when it was implemented however.

[Darian]

Eyepatch of MF'ing Plunder

[SwordNboard]

Eyepatch of MF'ing Plunder

[Lazortag]

I'm looking forward to Beastlords and Frogloks being playable.

[Danyelle]

I'm looking forward to Beastlords and Frogloks being playable.

http://i.imgur.com/e79Ow.jpg

[BattleToad]

I am looking forward to Plane of Mischief and Velious tailoring.

[Deverell]

iksar plate


Also:

Chestplate of Vindication
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: CHEST
AC: 45
STA: +15 HP: +100
SV FIRE: +15 SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +15
Attack: +10 HP Regen +2
WT: 25.0 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD SHM
Race: ALL

[senna]

Lord Bob
http://www.afterlifeguild.org/images/velious/doljoniji.jpg

drops doljinaijimnijainajaminar

[Wudan]

I wouldn't waste time doing tradeskills for the 8th shawl. As much as I would love them to make it available anyways, shawl in velious stop at 7.

and the giants during the ring war were pretty much unkittable at first, unless you put a tank on them, they wouldnt aggro the player and go straight for thurg. Kiting 90 % of the giants by a bard didn't work, in classic EQ.

does it mean Shaman skull quests sopt at 7 too?¨I have finished 5th and Im really curious to know where this quest line ends on P99

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=shaman+skull

[Wudan]

iksar plate


can you please post some links for Velious plate armor sets usable by Iksars? TY!

[Deverell]

Pretty sure they can use all of it?

[Malrubius]

http://web.archive.org/web/20021104070258/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/archives/Update_0502.html

May 10th :(

Not only is it May 10, it is May 10, 2002. Since Velious came out in December of 2000, this is clearly post-Velious-release.

That said, I would love this quest to be put in at some point anyway. It's clearly "part of Velious". :D

May 10, 2002

Here's another big update for you.

New Items: Imbued Royal Velium Helmet ; Imbued Royal Velium Gauntlets ; Imbued Royal Velium Field Plate ; Imbued Royal Velium Bracer ; Imbued Royal Velium Boots ; Royal Velium Gauntlets ; Bracer of the Collective Initiate ; Shortnoble Platemail Gauntlets ; Ice Forged Helmet ; Drakkel Wolf Claws ; Snowchipper ; Spiked Velium Mallet ; Blessed Coldain Prayer Shawl ; Royal Velium Greaves ; Royal Velium Field Plate ; Royal Velium Bracer ; Royal Velium Helmet ; Royal Velium Vambraces ; Royal Velium Boots ; cap of the Collective Initiate ; Gloves of the Collective Initiate ; Arcane Scientists Sleeves ; Arcane Scientists Sandals ; Arcane Scientists Leggings ; Arcane Scientists Bracer ; Breastplate of the Darkpriest ; Scalemesh Leggings ; Spiritstone of Everfrost ; Mace of the Darkpriest ; Writ of the Fallen ; Bone Hilted Long Sword ; Scorched Silver Pauldrons ; Dark Muslin Collar ; Gauntlets of the Darkpriest ; Armguards of the Ordained ; Gauntlets of the Ordained ; Greaves of the Ordained ; Helm of the Ordained ; Boots of the Ordained ; Bracer of the Ordained ;

New Quests: Blessed Coldain Prayer Shawl ( No 8) ; Initiate Darkpriest's Final Test ; Dismal Knight Helm ; Arcane Scientist Sandals ; Arcane Scientist Gloves ; Arcane Scientist Trousers ; Arcane Scientist Robe ; Arcane Scientist Final Assignment ; Arcane Scientist Cap ; Arcane Scientist Bracer ; Arcane Scientist Sleeves ; Coalition Trader Gloves ; Coalition Trader Boots ; Coalition Trader Bracer ; Coalition Trader Cap ; Coalition Trader Leggings ; Coalition Trader Sleeves ; Coalition Trader Tunic ; Coalition Trader Next Task ; Rage Sorcerer Cap ; Rage Sorcerer Wristband ; Rage Sorcerer Gloves ; Rage Sorcerer Boots ; Rage Sorcerer Sleeves ; Rage Sorcerer Pantaloons ; Rage Sorcerer Robe ; Staff of Dismal Rage ; Dismal Knight Bracer ; Dismal Knight Gauntlets ; Dismal Knight Boots ; Dismal Knight Vambraces ; Dismal Knight Greaves ; Dismal Knight Breastplate ;

[maximum]

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=28514 -- Since it is unlikely I'll be able to get epic before then.


Not classic. Requires a Plane of Knowledge vendor item.

[godbox]

im looking forward to my ogre sham getting any velious modle plate helm so he looks like a crazy fat totem pole. Also am currently making a troll warrior alt for hockey bone mask ^^

[Alarti0001]

Not only is it May 10, it is May 10, 2002. Since Velious came out in December of 2000, this is clearly post-Velious-release.

That said, I would love this quest to be put in at some point anyway. It's clearly "part of Velious". :D

8th shawl is def after velious release, whether or not its pre luclin I am unsure of. I seem to remember the 8th shawl coming out in november.

Also, that patch said the quest was *updated* therefore it was already in game prior to that may date

[Fazlazen]

does it mean Shaman skull quests sopt at 7 too?¨I have finished 5th and Im really curious to know where this quest line ends on P99

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=shaman+skull

Nah, I think the shaman skull quests, warrior pike, necro skullcap last items are all post velious. I tihnk the only one item they sneaked in is the greenmist (sks). And to your question about iksar wearable armor, its pretty much all of it. Check it out yourself, thurgadin quest armor, Skyshrine, Kael, Growth for the armor sets.

[Splorf22]

Yeah, some of these things make me sad because I think they were intended to be part of Kunark/Velious but Verant just didn't have the manpower.

That said FT3 is pretty sick and probably a bit strong for Velious.

I wonder what the maximum FT is going to be with purely Velious gear? Not that it really matters for my Enchanter anyway D

[Danyelle]

8th shawl is def after velious release, whether or not its pre luclin I am unsure of. I seem to remember the 8th shawl coming out in november.

Also, that patch said the quest was *updated* therefore it was already in game prior to that may date

This^^

Do NOT EVER go by Alla as far as quest/item/spell etc release. First off Alla hasn't been around since the start of EQ. Second it's player/community run. They have a habit of putting mobs/items/quests into effect (and listing them on their update as 'new') when they've been around for the longest time.

An example would be: EQ Live has a lot of old quests that no one has yet to figure out how to complete them or even where they begin. If someone were to suddenly complete one of these quests and upload it to Alla, it would go in as 'new' on the May 3rd 2012 update and the quest would likely be tagged as Veil of Alaris despite being an original Classic quest.

Your best bet to find out when things were released is to cross reference multiple different sources or try to locate patch notes.

In the case of this:
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020508.html

May 8th 2002
Adjustments have been made to the 8th Coldain Prayer Shawl quest.

This does not indicate it was added with that patch. Only changed/modified. There is no earlier patch notes for the shawl that I can find. I recall it being in prior to 2002. Likely, as Alarti said, late Velious. MAYBE early Luclin.

[Ele]

Yeah, some of these things make me sad because I think they were intended to be part of Kunark/Velious but Verant just didn't have the manpower.

That said FT3 is pretty sick and probably a bit strong for Velious.

I wonder what the maximum FT is going to be with purely Velious gear? Not that it really matters for my Enchanter anyway D

During Velious what ever the highest Flowing Thought item you had is what you got; it did not stack until Luclin and then it was up to 15 points of FT.

[Lagaidh]

I want my shrimp fork! A.K.A. Messenger of the Queen, the 2hpiercer from Crystal Caverns.

It's not a great weapon, but I loved the graphic in hand. It looks like a giant, two-pronged shrimp fork! I can't wait to go get one.

[Danyelle]

Aegis of Ice (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6736). Shield graphic of the year all years.

For the longest time the only shield graphic that could compare was the Aegis of the Dragorn Elders (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=33012) years later. Something about the word 'aegis' in a shield makes the item look bad-ass apparently.

[falkun]

During Velious what ever the highest Flowing Thought item you had is what you got; it did not stack until Luclin and then it was up to 15 points of FT.

I was under the impression you could have 1 of each type of FT, but multiples of the same type could not stack, up to a maximum of FT15

Example: You have items with FT1, FT2, FT3, and another item with FT2. Your total mana regen would then be FT6 (FT1+FT2+FT3), the second FT2 item would not stack.

And I've answered myself, looks like Ele is correct:
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020108.html

Flowing Thought effects will now stack.

[Daldaen]

I'm well aware of it being added to ALLAKHAZAM on that day. But the 7th shawl quest was entered into Allakhazam 7 months after velious was released. Was that implemented 7 months after also?

No these quests were just very cryptic and took forever to solve, especially lots of the combines. The 8th shawl was just solved 8-9 months after the 7th.


Unless you can explicitly find information saying that it was implemented late, it should go in at release. And I've looked and found nothing of the sort. I'd think that this would be something that would make patch notes, a pretty big quest with a complex scripted raid, with a very unique reward...

[Danyelle]

I'm well aware of it being added to ALLAKHAZAM on that day. But the 7th shawl quest was entered into Allakhazam 7 months after velious was released. Was that implemented 7 months after also?

No these quests were just very cryptic and took forever to solve, especially lots of the combines. The 8th shawl was just solved 8-9 months after the 7th.


Unless you can explicitly find information saying that it was implemented late, it should go in at release. And I've looked and found nothing of the sort. I'd think that this would be something that would make patch notes, a pretty big quest with a complex scripted raid, with a very unique reward...

What I just said haha


This^^

Do NOT EVER go by Alla as far as quest/item/spell etc release. First off Alla hasn't been around since the start of EQ. Second it's player/community run. They have a habit of putting mobs/items/quests into effect (and listing them on their update as 'new') when they've been around for the longest time.

An example would be: EQ Live has a lot of old quests that no one has yet to figure out how to complete them or even where they begin. If someone were to suddenly complete one of these quests and upload it to Alla, it would go in as 'new' on the May 3rd 2012 update and the quest would likely be tagged as Veil of Alaris despite being an original Classic quest.

Your best bet to find out when things were released is to cross reference multiple different sources or try to locate patch notes.

In the case of this:
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020508.html

May 8th 2002
Adjustments have been made to the 8th Coldain Prayer Shawl quest.

This does not indicate it was added with that patch. Only changed/modified. There is no earlier patch notes for the shawl that I can find. I recall it being in prior to 2002. Likely, as Alarti said, late Velious. MAYBE early Luclin.

[Daldaen]

Not classic. Requires a Plane of Knowledge vendor item.

Praytell how the quest entry was BEFORE PoK was even released, by a good several months?

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=960

Entered: Wed Apr 11 09:45:26 2001

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20021021.html

OCTOBER 21, 2002

Planes of Power is now Live:


And... which item is it you refer to? The fish which can be fished in karanas currently or the tacklebox which you can buy in West Karana right now on P99?

[Alarti0001]

I'm well aware of it being added to ALLAKHAZAM on that day. But the 7th shawl quest was entered into Allakhazam 7 months after velious was released. Was that implemented 7 months after also?

No these quests were just very cryptic and took forever to solve, especially lots of the combines. The 8th shawl was just solved 8-9 months after the 7th.


Unless you can explicitly find information saying that it was implemented late, it should go in at release. And I've looked and found nothing of the sort. I'd think that this would be something that would make patch notes, a pretty big quest with a complex scripted raid, with a very unique reward...

I know for a fact that shawl 8 was not out during velious release....ill try to look up proof when I get home from work. However, I do think it was added before luclin hit 1 or 2 patches before luclin

[Daldaen]

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20011204.html -- SoLuclin patch. 12/4/01 or 4/12/01 for your euros

2 patches before that was the Project M patch (including a minor patch just before the luclin one).

The previous big patch was FV being released and Melee/Caster rebalance, again no mention of shawl or even hints at coldains learning something new etc.

I've looked through most all of them, and searched for Shawl / Coldain, and haven't found any evidence that it wasn't in at release. Now it wouldn't surprised me *cough* Iksar class specific quests. But I am just not seeing it.

[Danyelle]

To be honest. We have Iksar running around in plate armor already (Before anyone starts with me saying "Ohhh but it's basically not plate armor! The armor just has that graphic!". Details...the fact is, during Kunark, Iksar didn't even have a plate graphic.). Etc etc. There's enough non Classic stuff in that I say 'who cares'...release shawl 8 from the get-go. What's it going to hurt?

[Banditfist]

When is Velious coming out for P99?

I heard Vindi, Klandi, and Statue have been killed on eqmac.

[Danyelle]

When is Velious coming out for P99?

I heard Vindi, Klandi, and Statue have been killed on eqmac.

There is no set date.

I would certainly hope so. The server's been up since 2004 and has content through level 65 and Planes of Power....

[Szeth]

He is talking about the people who left P99 for eqmac. He left out Velketor too.

This is with an avg of 30 characters (some boxed)

[Danyelle]

Ahhhh. Congratulations guys =D

They stopping at Velious for Classic's sake, or moving on into Luclin/PoP?

[Szeth]

We are currently locked at lvl 60, and not allowed to spend AAs. We are also not allowed to use gear beyond Velious.

Once we finish up velious, we will unlock Luclin gear and raids/AAs to the members.

Basically it's an honor system, progression locked time line.

[Alarti0001]

Ahhhh. Congratulations guys =D

They stopping at Velious for Classic's sake, or moving on into Luclin/PoP?

They also have newer combat formulas, AA's and velious PoP loot there.... It must be hard to kill contact 2 expansions back big step forward for IB

[Szeth]

Alarti, how does your foot taste?

[Danyelle]

We are currently locked at lvl 60, and not allowed to spend AAs. We are also not allowed to use gear beyond Velious.

Once we finish up velious, we will unlock Luclin gear and raids/AAs to the members.

Basically it's an honor system, progression locked time line.

Locked by Sony's rules or by guild leaders' rules? Haven't played EQMac yet, when I went back to Live I went back to ACTUAL Live lol, no idea how EQMac functions. Been debating checking it out though.

If that's a guild rule though it's not a bad play-style... Lock guildies out of content until one set of content is done. I debated doing that with Live-Dashie but I made the poor decision of hiring a merc and slapping on some Defiant instead. Kinda hard to progress by expansion without running into revamped/new content anymore anyway :(


lol Alarti

[Silentone]

I wouldn't waste time doing tradeskills for the 8th shawl. As much as I would love them to make it available anyways, shawl in velious stop at 7.

and the giants during the ring war were pretty much unkittable at first, unless you put a tank on them, they wouldnt aggro the player and go straight for thurg. Kiting 90 % of the giants by a bard didn't work, in classic EQ.

I'm going to reserve judgment on that. Personaly I dont see anything wrong with maybe having shawl quest 8 added at a later time as a sort of custom content Nilbog talked about. Or some sort of EPIC 2.0 I think quests and items we can still desire will keep us inerested in the game :)

[Honest]

http://www.waringmcmarrin.com/?page_id=54

Patch notes going all the way back to release of game. Didn't want to go through them, but wanted to provide them to you who are debating. carry on.

[Szeth]

It is a guild ruleset Danyelle not a server one. However since EQMac is time locked at 10/28/2002 you don't have to worry about ridiculous things like mercs and defiant gear.

[Alarti0001]

We are currently locked at lvl 60, and not allowed to spend AAs. We are also not allowed to use gear beyond Velious.

Once we finish up velious, we will unlock Luclin gear and raids/AAs to the members.

Basically it's an honor system, progression locked time line.

Lol so IB the guild that broke every rule, exploited every encounter they could, rule lawyered every raid boss and then rmt'd off the server has honor?

Even if you played by those rules you still have new combat calculations

[Danyelle]

It is a guild ruleset Danyelle not a server one. However since EQMac is time locked at 10/28/2002 you don't have to worry about ridiculous things like mercs and defiant gear.

Hmmm, can you provide me with an in-game screenshot. I wanna see how it looks, compare it to how I remember regular-Live looking during that era.

Also I don't mind the new stuff on modern EQ. I'm having fun with it. Just makes it hard to do that whole "personally-time-locked" play-style lol

[Newguy]

Lol so IB the guild that broke every rule, exploited every encounter they could, rule lawyered every raid boss and then rmt'd off the server has honor?

Even if you played by those rules you still have new combat calculations

Tmo is innocent of all that you just mentioned?

[Newguy]

Their website is http://theresistanceguild.com/ has some screenshots

[Daldaen]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x205/Daldaen/EQ000017-1.jpg

I do find it funny that TMO / TR(IB) manage to still derail threads even when one of them no longer plays here...

But ya alarti show me the money (patch/proof it was a late addition).

[Alarti0001]

I do find it funny that TMO / TR(IB) manage to still derail threads even when one of them no longer plays here...

But ya alarti show me the money (patch/proof it was a late addition).

Still at work for a couple more hours

[Danyelle]

Mmmm. I was never fond of the Inventory window layout back then but...meh very tolerable.

Dammit...you're going to make me start playing a 4th version of EQ...I already have Modified Titanium, Underfoot, and Veil of Alaris installed on my PC and play all 3 as it is!

Ahh well I have HDD space.

Wow this is like..the exact definition of addicted. ;_;

[Alarti0001]

Tmo is innocent of all that you just mentioned?

We have had players who cheated who are removed, ib had a vastly larger amount of cheaters who were reinvited. Rule lawyers ya guilty for both. Rmting off the server...ya we are still here.
Also we aren't playing on an honor system, we play within rules enforced by outside parties.

Go make an rnf thread if you want to start this back up....I'm here for coldain shawls

[Alarti0001]

Oh here is a caster item I enjoyed back in the day that I found not many people knew of.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=931

[Danyelle]

Oh here is a caster item I enjoyed back in the day that I found not many people knew of.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=931

Holy crap I forgot about that.

Also, This may not have been the best item but I LOVED the graphic on this (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4115).

Velious was THE expansion for 'cool' looking items imo.

[Daldaen]

Yea... I have P99, EQMac, EQLive and EQLive Test/Beta (I swap between them depending on time of the year) on my computer... mmm gigs and gigs of EQ infos.

Ah yes I forgot... since I will still visit kedge I could use a - http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4061


I just hope its classic with OP miniturtle being charmable. Atleast I think he was classic...

[Danyelle]

Yeah, Lodizal is Classic. Didn't he used to climb on shore and slaughter gnolls? They would give zone-wide shouts and pile onto him and he would just toss them all off like they were nothing?

I seem to recall this, although I think I only ever got to see it once...

[Daldaen]

I know Lodizal is classic...

Is Coruduth classic though...

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/i/d/id6454.png

This is the turtle that Druids use to Dire Charm and kill Lodizal. He has 70,000hp and max hits for 70. When buffed and given two weapons he can double quad (8 hits) for 70 at a time. He can kill Lodizal without ever being healed and finish with about 50% health.

IIRC You could normal charm him too but its been awhile.

[Gwence]

if your name isnt Alarti and you start on eqmac can join up with us npz

[Newguy]

This shawl?

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/164/eq000024.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/eq000024.png/)

[Ele]

Regarding the 8th Shawl:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1388

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=1266&page=4
RE: Is 7 all there is?
Posted: May 8th 2002 1:20pm
Shawl 8 is implemented since today

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=878
** Quests **
- Adjustments have been made to the 8th Coldain Prayer Shawl quest



Zephyr of Brell has an initial entry on Lucy Spell Database of May 08, 2002; the same day as the patch referenced above "adjusting" the 8th Shawl quest.
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=2305&source=Live

[Danyelle]

if your name isnt Alarti and you start on eqmac can join up with us npz

Depends...are you stopping people from rolling Vah Shir/Beastlord until you finish Velious content as well? Or are you letting that slide. I would imagine not if you don't want people getting Luclin+ gear yet since the Beast epic deals with several Luclin zones :(

[Writ3r]

So did they not patch EQmac to disallow PC users from being able to log in? I thought they were suppose to fix that "exploit" at the end of March.

[somnia]

Oh here is a caster item I enjoyed back in the day that I found not many people knew of.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=931

Everybody knew of that item. You're retarded as usual Alarti.

[Alarti0001]

Everybody knew of that item. You're retarded as usual Alarti.

Your opinion matters, really!

[Alarti0001]

Anyone know the quests that were added in this patch?

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010327.html

[Bardalicious]

I know Lodizal is classic...

Is Coruduth classic though...

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/i/d/id6454.png



IIRC You could normal charm him too but its been awhile.




Yes, Coruduth was classic to velious. I recall swimming past him all the time while running through Iceclad. The reason for dire charm, however, was to avoid being insta-summoned and eaten if and when charm breaks during the fight. Not sure if it's doable. I suppose it depends entirely on luck and how long the fight between the turtles would take.

[pasi]

Lodizal was soloable at Velious launch if you had a way of dropping aggro. And yeah, Corudeth should be around for the Collar of the Storm quest.

[fadetree]

I'll be excited get some delicious blue Vial of Velium Vapors going.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5329

[Splorf22]

I tend to agree with Daldaen - just because Alla put it in in 2002 doesn't mean it wasn't in the game at Velious, just that it took people a while to figure out a huge obnoxious quest. I mean how many people had ALL of their tradeskills maxed to go do this? See quotes like this about the BCPS:

Think hard~! Unless you enjoy tradeskilling, spending absurd amounts of money for one lousy skill up, then being too broke to buy your spells AND having your combine fail, then tolerate the failure well, and don't mind a few months of completely anti-social behavior, this *might* not be the quest for you. All of the above mentioned things are not things I enjoy, not one bit, yet I did them all--so it *can* be done. But boy, is it unsufferable at times! Get out your +100 persistence gear if you choose to venture on...

And if you look at the stats, they really aren't better than the 10th ring. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if the 'modification' of the quest is when they added the focus effect, which they also did for stuff like the Shining Metallic Robe: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2098 which is clearly classic.

[Baxter]

MESSAGE OF THE DAY: Welcome to project 1999: The Scars of Velious. Visit www.project1999.org for news and required play files. Please remember to submit bug reports on the forums, /petition should only be used for immediate character assistance.

[godbox]

i like how this thread started as lets not have a dumb argument and just talk about stuff we lookin forward to and turned into a pissing contest over who knows more about classic release dates / alla

[Gwence]

Depends...are you stopping people from rolling Vah Shir/Beastlord until you finish Velious content as well? Or are you letting that slide. I would imagine not if you don't want people getting Luclin+ gear yet since the Beast epic deals with several Luclin zones :(

no we allow vah shir beastlord, we have 1 with completed epic.

[Gwence]

So did they not patch EQmac to disallow PC users from being able to log in? I thought they were suppose to fix that "exploit" at the end of March.

I still log in from a pc

[Alarti0001]

Best graphic from velious !

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6088

[PsychoTass]

I always liked the graphic on this one:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3811

[pasi]

I tend to agree with Daldaen - just because Alla put it in in 2002 doesn't mean it wasn't in the game at Velious, just that it took people a while to figure out a huge obnoxious quest. I mean how many people had ALL of their tradeskills maxed to go do this? See quotes like this about the BCPS:



And if you look at the stats, they really aren't better than the 10th ring. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if the 'modification' of the quest is when they added the focus effect, which they also did for stuff like the Shining Metallic Robe: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2098 which is clearly classic.

BCPS has it's own focus effect.
The mobs spawned during the 8th shawl quest drop items that have required levels on them.

Both of which are obviously not Velious.

[Splorf22]

So, are you saying the drolvarg captain isn't Kunark era?

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=50696

[pasi]

Some of his drops on Allakhazam are not, no. Most people know that a 46/42 2hs with a graphic not added until PoP(?) didn't launch with kunark.

The quest dialogue for the 7th shawl is a pretty unambiguous lead in to the 8th shawl.

Not that the burden of proof is on me, but the evidence against the shawl being in with Velious is pretty damning.

You have 6 or so items from the quest having a required level.
You have the item having its own focus effect (although, they might have upgraded the shawl in a patch)

The kicker is that the 8th shawl npc who doesn't need to be spawned was not seen until 2002 in a frequented zone in Iceclad. Even if you argue that no one decided to turn in their 7th shawl and either Velious introduced the required level mechanic or that those items were added retroactively, you still have General Bragmar MIA.

[azeth]

How has this thread gone on for so long without mention of the best item in EQ?

the BFG

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4970

[Szeth]

Because people are going to start killing themselves when they realize they can't complete it without using SEQ to find the plank?

[Danyelle]

no we allow vah shir beastlord, we have 1 with completed epic.

Well I got a Dark Elf Mage and Vah Shir Beastlord on Al'Kabor now. We'll see how much I play. lol

Shit takes me back though. Seeing as how I spent all of Classic/Kunark/Velious with a low attention span killing green gnolls in Blackburrow and didn't start legitimately playing until early Luclin this is a major nostalgia trip for me <3

I still hate this inventory layout though. It was better as either the original Classic UI or how it is on modern EQ now. This middle ground set-up I'm just not a fan of...lol

EDIT: Also...addiction is fun... :(
http://i.imgur.com/gsg0V.jpg

[Phallax]

How has this thread gone on for so long without mention of the best item in EQ?

the BFG

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4970

cuz it has: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=635931&postcount=6

OT: My faves were Lodi shield and Vindi BP !

[Nikon]

Not a drop, but this is what I'm drooling for:

http://i48.tinypic.com/2isavlu.jpg

^

[FoxxHound]

I wantz it.

[Splorf22]

What is it? I never played Velious on live.

[Crazyeye]

What is it? I never played Velious on live.

Think thats the zone tower of frozen shadows

[Daldaen]

Think thats the zone tower of frozen shadows

People think its a really great dungeon, it wasn't really though. There are much better dungeons in EQ.

[Clark]

Eyepatch of MF'ing Plunder

Ya those were awesome.

[Quiksilver]

Primal Velium Brawl Stick
Shroud of Longevity
Flayed Barbarian Skin Leggings

And of course, Custom Cowl of Mortality

EDIT: And maybe Tantor's Tusk for the ranger (for jousting porpoises only)

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/6N8mWxb.jpg

[Quiksilver]

Fake ones are hard ones >.<

[SamwiseRed]

ERRRRMG I CAAAAAAAAANt WAIT

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/f/9/f99dda2f7ad3810a3e26a34eb9067908.png

[Quiksilver]

ERRRRMG I CAAAAAAAAANt WAIT

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/f/9/f99dda2f7ad3810a3e26a34eb9067908.png


Those effects were added later? Or already existed on those items, then they just added a description later?

[Nirgon]

Ry'Gorr fort
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/scenery2/eastwastes-fort.jpg

Tower of Frozen Shadow (things when you saw it were like wow wtf is that, went over investigated, yep baller ass puzzle dungeon... I think Mr. Big Things Nilberg got the portal/key scripting done already)
http://eqrez.com/stormhaven/mediawiki/images/d/d6/Tower_of_frozen_shadow.jpg

PoG castle (hopefully protectors of growth spawn and come after you correctly at launch here), truly brings out that feeling of EVIL CASTLE to dark races:
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1992/494939-plane_of_growth_02.jpg

Skyshrine ent in Cobalt Scar (hope you're ready to get curb stomped by a cobalt drake porting in, luls)
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/scenery/cobaltscar-skyshrine.jpg

Dain, aka one pissed off lookin' mofo, holdin' down the ice keep from giants like erry-day.. gives complete heal scrolls and a tri-plated hammer quest if you're in the know.
http://www.thetwelve.org/images/Dain1114.jpg


Got harmony?
http://wiki.project1999.org/images/Npc_sontalak.png

If you're ballin' on your money and you can relate:
http://www.legacyofsteel.net/home/archives/2001-06-05%5Csontalakloots.jpg

Real ass fuckin' loot tables:
http://www.legacyofsteel.net/home/archives/2001-07-16%5Ctormaxloot.jpg

I can has very cool caster clickies (and later Sleeper shard)?:
http://www.afterlifeguild.org/images/velious/velketor.jpg

Something you probably won't kill even with OP non-classic charm here:
http://www.e-douguya.com/cgi-bin/vtop/data/04271.jpg

[Nirgon]

Hey gaiz any Verrious in heer??
http://www.afterlifeguild.org/kerafyrm/001.jpg

(Insert more things modern MMOs will never be again)

GL Nilberg and co. ... maybe Lost Emperor Rogean can get his mushroom stamp on some decent content before it rolls out the door too!

PS: Samwise get that mana conservation 1 screen shot shit out of here, my immersion is on its last leg as is

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/BwcU4Ge.png

[SamwiseRed]

not my fault thats the img that have on alla. picture the cc earring without the focus nikka

[Swish]

Repost but..

http://i.imgur.com/Wit7B.jpg

[Alarti0001]

Repost but..

http://i.imgur.com/Wit7B.jpg

Quick someone is talking about velious lets post another picture about hwo you dont care about velious.

Swish your way outta here. If velious releases I give you full permission to stay in kunark.

[khanable]

I'm just ultra super excited for armor that an iksar warrior can now wear

and the thought of maybe being able to get to see VP and all the end game kunark stuffs that I missed out on during live :3

[Itap]

Seeing the velious textures/custom helm makes me want to roll a human war/mnk/rng/rog

[Quiksilver]

That wasn't sarcasm. I was genuinely curious >.<

[Alarti0001]

I'm just ultra super excited for armor that an iksar warrior can now wear

and the thought of maybe being able to get to see VP and all the end game kunark stuffs that I missed out on during live :3

Iksars can wear stuff, and int casters finally get itemized! WTF!

[Nirgon]

Heh int casters are still on the short end of the stick when it comes to end game gear imo.

[Taffan]

I'm looking forward to Beastlords and Frogloks being playable.

Don't forget mounts.

[Swish]

Quick someone is talking about velious lets post another picture about hwo you dont care about velious.

Swish your way outta here. If velious releases I give you full permission to stay in kunark.

I see why people are interested, I just interpret these threads as a gentle "nudge" for it to be released asap. The problem is that once we have Velious we're heading towards unknown territory. Some people just arrived on the server, and not everyone has "completed" all there is to do on Kunark yet...so keep it as a nice thought and lets not rush Velious, a few Kunark patches yet right?

Can I post a Luclin Drool Thread even if its probably not happening then Alarti? ;)

[Alarti0001]

I see why people are interested, I just interpret these threads as a gentle "nudge" for it to be released asap. The problem is that once we have Velious we're heading towards unknown territory. Some people just arrived on the server, and not everyone has "completed" all there is to do on Kunark yet...so keep it as a nice thought and lets not rush Velious, a few Kunark patches yet right?

Can I post a Luclin Drool Thread even if its probably not happening then Alarti? ;)

No one is making you go to Velious.
If you want to post a luclin drool thread I will post fond memories of the burrower beast THO and SSRA. GO for it

[Swish]

No one is making you go to Velious.

Unless its very soon, which it isnt because of Kunark patches still due... I'd say Velious will be after the summer population drop. Worth waiting for, but in no rush for it.

Carry on with the screenshots, I'll carry on with a few parodies of people's mentality towards wanting it yesterday ;)

[Itap]

Swish, im not sure why you are opposed to velious dropping, it was one of the most memorable and fun expansions I can think of

[Loly Taa]

During Velious what ever the highest Flowing Thought item you had is what you got; it did not stack until Luclin and then it was up to 15 points of FT.

They didn't stack with themselves, you could have an ft1, ft2, ft3, and still get 6 extra per tick

[Hailto]

Some people just arrived on the server, and not everyone has "completed" all there is to do on Kunark yet...so keep it as a nice thought and lets not rush Velious, a few Kunark patches yet right?

New people will always be arriving on the server, and there will always be people who haven't completed all there is to do on Kunark. What is your point? We should never release it given that logic, or when you say "some people" are you just talking about yourself.

[Swish]

Its a great expansion, there's some really awesome content and I'm looking forward to it. But after we all delve in, what is there to look forward to afterwards? A server reset? Custom content? It won't be like it is now... "now" is good! :)

New people will always be arriving on the server, and there will always be people who haven't completed all there is to do on Kunark. What is your point? We should never release it given that logic, or when you say "some people" are you just talking about yourself.

Yep true, new players will always arrive...but if Kunark patches are sped up and done quickly now you'll probably see Velious during the summer drop-off. Alright for some, but most people will be enjoying the sun and doing other things. I'd say the best time to release Velious is when the server pop picks up afterwards. I can wait, I just don't see why people are so excited for something that's not going to be released next week.

I don't remember a shit ton of Kunark threads on the scale that the Velious ones have appeared...

[Itap]

Because SoV is a much better xpac over RoK? I bet the majority will agree

[Swish]

Not sure I'd agree there. No new playable race, level limit wasn't increased... it was just a playground for existing 20-25+ characters to enjoy. ToFS was very good as was spider-land.

Raid bosses were well thought out and a good new challenge... yet, it really lacked something I thought. I'll go further (and people will laugh, and that's fine)... Luclin with the Nexus/bazaar and its raid bosses was as good or better than Velious. New playable class that worked well with existing groups, a new race (granted not everyone liked the cats) and some more interesting zones compared to Velious. Put pixels aside and I think the content was just better in Luclin. There, I said it.

[Hailto]

Its a great expansion, there's some really awesome content and I'm looking forward to it. But after we all delve in, what is there to look forward to afterwards? A server reset? Custom content? It won't be like it is now... "now" is good! :)



Yep true, new players will always arrive...but if Kunark patches are sped up and done quickly now you'll probably see Velious during the summer drop-off. Alright for some, but most people will be enjoying the sun and doing other things. I'd say the best time to release Velious is when the server pop picks up afterwards. I can wait, I just don't see why people are so excited for something that's not going to be released next week.

I don't remember a shit ton of Kunark threads on the scale that the Velious ones have appeared...

Thats because Kunark isn't nearly as awesome of an expansion as Velious is.

[Ele]

They didn't stack with themselves, you could have an ft1, ft2, ft3, and still get 6 extra per tick

Really have to quote that from 10 months ago? :(

We've been discussing it more thoroughly in other threads. http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=79881

[heartbrand]

WTB AA's

[Alarti0001]

Its a great expansion, there's some really awesome content and I'm looking forward to it. But after we all delve in, what is there to look forward to afterwards? A server reset? Custom content? It won't be like it is now... "now" is good! :)



Yep true, new players will always arrive...but if Kunark patches are sped up and done quickly now you'll probably see Velious during the summer drop-off. Alright for some, but most people will be enjoying the sun and doing other things. I'd say the best time to release Velious is when the server pop picks up afterwards. I can wait, I just don't see why people are so excited for something that's not going to be released next week.

I don't remember a shit ton of Kunark threads on the scale that the Velious ones have appeared...

Kunark wasn't 2+ years late. Kunark was designed as a temporary band-aid it only lasted 6 months on live. Even with epics.

[Hugmukk]

Kunark was released pretty close to schedule, where as velious is taking much longer. I think that is the reason for the influx of "OMG VELIOUS" threads. Personally velious was my favorite expansion.

Luclin was an awful expansion, the moon? Cats... Ehhhh. The planes effectively reduced interaction by 50% by adding port stones and the bazaar.

In P99's instance, people are looking forward to velious so guilds outside looking in can get some action.

[heartbrand]

PoP was one of best expansions of any MMORPG ever

[SupaflyIRL]

PoP was one of best expansions of any MMORPG ever

Most definitely.

[Mickets]

PoP was one of best expansions of any MMORPG ever

100% correct.

[webrunner5]

I am waiting for Velious also. But a lot of people are going to be unhappy with it. They are either going to be too high or too low. There is no NOOB zone and not a ton to do at level 60 solo. All the good zones will be perma camped by high end guilds. So what is left? The 35 to 45 level areas.

There will have to be a Velious Beta for a couple of months, so it won't be out for awhile even if they have it sort of ready. :(:(

[BigLe2e]

Othmir beach music and velks music. best shit ever

[Psionide]

People really think Velious is going to open up the raid scene?

[Breeziyo]

I am waiting for Velious also. But a lot of people are going to be unhappy with it. They are either going to be too high or too low. There is no NOOB zone and not a ton to do at level 60 solo. All the good zones will be perma camped by high end guilds. So what is left? The 35 to 45 level areas.

There will have to be a Velious Beta for a couple of months, so it won't be out for awhile even if they have it sort of ready. :(:(

:/




Luclin was an awful expansion, the moon? Cats... Ehhhh.

Criticizing something for being ridiculous or not realistic in a game where there are walking, talking everything won't get you anywhere. You look just as stupid as people who go "Pandas in WoW? Ehhhh."

I personally loved Beastlords. Don't care about anything else Luclin related. I liked it overall.

[Hugmukk]

:/




Criticizing something for being ridiculous or not realistic in a game where there are walking, talking everything won't get you anywhere. You look just as stupid as people who go "Pandas in WoW? Ehhhh."

I personally loved Beastlords. Don't care about anything else Luclin related. I liked it overall.

Walking talking everything? What does that have to do with not liking cats on the moon? The real issue here is your love affair with WoW :(

[Xadion]

to me all main eq expansions from vanilla, kunark, velious, luclin and pop where great, minor issues along with all of them but all very enjoyable.

[Alarti0001]

People really think Velious is going to open up the raid scene?

Do you really not?

[oddphase]

to me all main eq expansions from vanilla, kunark, velious, luclin and pop where great, minor issues along with all of them but all very enjoyable.

^

[stonebeard22]

PoP was one of best expansions of any MMORPG ever

I couldn't agree with this more. Best thing that has happened to any game I have ever played.

[Hugmukk]

I find it interesting that people flocked toward this server with the idea that port stones were bad for the game partly because it limited interactions. And even further limited interactions by adding the bazaar.

And now we see all these comments about PoP being the best thing EVER. It makes me increasingly happy we will never have to group with cats. And as much of a pain in the ass that is to find a port sometimes, im also glad there will never be port stones.

Back to the OP though, the 10th ring war is just a fantastic encounter. I only got to do it a couple times on live.

ToFS is a great zone, eyepatch of plunder. Some of the things I'm looking forward to.

[Psionide]

Do you really not?

First off I don't raid anymore and have no problems with TMO. Second, you being in TMO really don't think your still going to have most of the content on lockdown like you guys do now (again I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with that)? I'm just making an observation that you guys are doing a pretty good job getting the majority of targets now are you saying you won't be able to keep this up because of Velious?

[stonebeard22]

I find it interesting that people flocked toward this server with the idea that port stones were bad for the game partly because it limited interactions. And even further limited interactions by adding the bazaar.

And now we see all these comments about PoP being the best thing EVER. It makes me increasingly happy we will never have to group with cats. And as much of a pain in the ass that is to find a port sometimes, im also glad there will never be port stones.

Back to the OP though, the 10th ring war is just a fantastic encounter. I only got to do it a couple times on live.

ToFS is a great zone, eyepatch of plunder. Some of the things I'm looking forward to.

Hug, my comment was more to the fact of the raid targets, how progression worked, the itemization, aa's, etc. I liked always having soo much to work on for my characters. I liked the grandmaster crafting items, and I'm sure there is a TON more I am forgetting.

I was not a big fan of the bazaar, I hated the portal stones in Luclin.

[Enygma]

First off I don't raid anymore and have no problems with TMO. Second, you being in TMO really don't think your still going to have most of the content on lockdown like you guys do now (again I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with that)? I'm just making an observation that you guys are doing a pretty good job getting the majority of targets now are you saying you won't be able to keep this up because of Velious?

NO he means TMO will still dominate but other guilds will get opportunities at lower tier raid mobs like Classic/Kunark stuff and probably Vindicator at some point.

[Kagatob]

I don't forsee TMO raiding skyshrine much. I may be wrong but IIRC anything that drops in that zone (note I'm referring to the drops from the mobs not the quests) has clicky effects you can more easily obtain elsewhere or is strictly inferior to equipment you would find from raiding WToV/NToV. The only exception I can think of offhand is completing the Tormax quest involving Yelinak's head.

This leads to another question. With 3 highly contested raid encounters also being involved with hand-ins for high tier quests, won't all this FTE bullshit we have going on this server muck things up a ton?

[Byrjun]

I find it interesting that people flocked toward this server with the idea that port stones were bad for the game partly because it limited interactions. And even further limited interactions by adding the bazaar.

And now we see all these comments about PoP being the best thing EVER. It makes me increasingly happy we will never have to group with cats. And as much of a pain in the ass that is to find a port sometimes, im also glad there will never be port stones.

All of the expansions had their good and their bad. Kunark had legendary dungeons, but the outdoor zones were huge areas full of nothing and navigating the continent was a nightmare. And the whole problem with the level cap making the grind ridiculous and trivializing older content. Iksars were cool, though.

Velious was probably the most solid expansion, the biggest problem is that there was nothing for you to really to do there before 40-50 or so. And the fact that Velious made a similar mistake with gear upgrades that Kunark made with raising the level cap. You had to essentially get to the end of Luclin to even consider replacing Vulak loot and even then you were most likely going to lose AC.

The biggest problem with Luclin is that it tried to be "well rounded" and provide content for everyone (as opposed to Velious which was aimed at higher levels), but only the higher level content was any good. Way too many useless zones like that desert I can't even remember the name of. Vah Shir were kinda silly, and they tried to attract lower levels to places like Paludal through insane zone experience modifiers instead of actually making the zones interesting in the first place. Also they tried to tamper too much with the core of the game by introducing the gross graphics updates and the bazaar, which most classic purists didn't like (but were forced to use due to horses and the EC tunnel becoming deserted). Ssra Temple was worth the price of admission alone, as it was one of the best raid dungeons ever. Defeating Emp Ssra is one of the most exciting moments in the game, unfortunately you're rewarded with the crap fest that is Vex Thal. AAs were needed since classic to flesh out the different classes and give them unique abilities. EQ always felt extremely basic until you got the ability to work on AAs. The gap between tanks and non-tanks widened dramatically, rangers became useful ranged dps, wizards got neat tools that actually made them fun to play sometimes, etc. They tried to do this in Kunark with disciplines, but disciplines were implemented really poorly in the first place. AAs were a much better system.

Planes of Power, again, was a mixed bag. Plane of Knowledge was slightly game breaking in the same way the bazaar was, but worse. The raiding was top notch, except back flagging and an unfinished Plane of Time killed a lot of guilds. Amazing expansion once it was fixed up, though. AA system was fleshed out and made even better. If the main "hub zone" for this expansion was the Plane of Tranquility and the flagging/bugs were fixed, PoP would have been perfect.

All of these expansions were worth playing. After that, not so much. I started writing about LoY and LDON but I could go on and on with that and this is already extremely off topic.

[Breeziyo]

The real issue here is your love affair with WoW :(

love affair

It is the complete opposite, my friend. I've worn out any possibility of fun in WoW long ago. You still sound like an illogical baby when you bring up talking cats on the moon being silly when you've got evil talking lizards, holy talking frogs, etc. Just like the people who cried how Pandas were too silly for the Warcraft universe (seriously, the quests alone make it le epic maymays the game). The list goes on, but I don't think I need to include a list of everything in a fantasy world to show you how fuckin' silly you sound when you draw the line at an anthro cat race.

[Taresh]

Cats on the moon? FUCK NO!

I'm gonna go invade the lizard temple with animated lizard golems and lizard driders and necromancy and spells and shit.

[Taresh]

Talking animals are STUPID!

I'm gonna turn myself into a bench and talk to people at the bank.

[foldupmonk]

I did like PoP alot. I quit sometime right before it but after Luclin came out. I loved my ranger so much. Once I started to get aa points it was over. I would never play another class. I moved on to FFXI as a ranged toon then to a hunter in WoW (though I was a really bad ass NE hunter...). I come back now to EQ and I am obligated to play my ranger and suffer the horrible exp grind all the way up again.

[Taresh]

Playing a ranger in any expansion before Luclin/PoP is very painful. Doesn't feel right.