View Full Version : An Idea for leveling.
Sektor
04-28-2012, 08:14 PM
Is there a way to make the mob's weaker and give out the same amount of xp? Being's you can't just group with people from 1-50 most night's.
Melee's really get screwed here, and I understand that this is how hard everquest was, but at the same time there were people to group with back in the everquest days.
A 20 Ranger vs a level 20 mob.
Snared, burst of flamed it down to 75%. Mob comes into melee range, I am at 100% with a skin like nature on none of the less. End result, I managed to get him to 60% he bring's me down to 20% had to zone out.
I'm not trying to be one of those player's looking for an easy way to reach 50, but melee's CANNOT solo at all, even hybrid's that can do other thing's. If there's a way to weaken NPCs from 45 and under to give a melee a chance to soloing to 50 you will surely see more people reach level 50 and more people hold out and stay on the server, which will generate more pvp and more of a buzz toward's the server.
Would like to hear people's input's, I understand people suggest stuff all the time as a level 50 Druid, leveling wasn't bad and I had some help along the way, but melee's need some loving here.
hagard
04-28-2012, 08:27 PM
Oocing for 2 days and no grp thank god I can solo crocs and getb 2% xp every 10 min
Tippett
04-28-2012, 08:28 PM
Oocing for 2 days and no grp thank god I can solo crocs and getb 2% xp every 10 min
wait till 30, then you wont even be able to solo lb's ;)
hagard
04-28-2012, 08:30 PM
wait till 30, then you want even be able to solo lb's ;)
Can hardly wait then I can get .5% every 10min
Tippett
04-28-2012, 08:33 PM
Can hardly wait then I can get .5% every 10min
more like .0% :(
SearyxTZ
04-28-2012, 08:44 PM
Is there a way to make the mob's weaker and give out the same amount of xp? Being's you can't just group with people from 1-50 most night's.
Melee's really get screwed here, and I understand that this is how hard everquest was, but at the same time there were people to group with back in the everquest days.
A 20 Ranger vs a level 20 mob.
Snared, burst of flamed it down to 75%. Mob comes into melee range, I am at 100% with a skin like nature on none of the less. End result, I managed to get him to 60% he bring's me down to 20% had to zone out.
I'm not trying to be one of those player's looking for an easy way to reach 50, but melee's CANNOT solo at all, even hybrid's that can do other thing's. If there's a way to weaken NPCs from 45 and under to give a melee a chance to soloing to 50 you will surely see more people reach level 50 and more people hold out and stay on the server, which will generate more pvp and more of a buzz toward's the server.
Would like to hear people's input's, I understand people suggest stuff all the time as a level 50 Druid, leveling wasn't bad and I had some help along the way, but melee's need some loving here.
This will never happen.
I wouldn't want to do this on VZTZ either because you're literally changing the PvE of EQ and making it something other than what it was.
Melees not being able to solo is just a symptom of the larger problem that there's nobody leveling up on the server right now so grouping is rarely an option -- even with OOC.
I've put out there what I think is a rational solution to this in that if you're going to have a low population, you might as well work with it. Accelerate the 1-40 grind to < 20 hours (would be a massive increase). Dump the excess into 40-50. Overall 1-50 Time Spent can stay the same. End result is 40-50 is punishingly slow, but 40-50 is both accessible to the casual player and where the vast majority of the low pop resides.
That's all I've got as I don't know of anything else to really suggest. The pop is depressingly low right now and player interaction is paramount.
So yeah - I don't know. If you want to push for a really minor change to enable melee soloing, then I'd think bind wound reaching a higher cap (instead of 50% hp) would be helpful. Don't think that would get more people playing though, which is the real issue.
hagard
04-28-2012, 08:47 PM
Of the 60 something online most are 50 so as obviously stated no grps
SamwiseRed
04-28-2012, 08:50 PM
triple xp, weaker mobs, all these things will only help solo classes. in order for xp to flow like water you need one thing, a population.
heartbrand
04-28-2012, 09:03 PM
EXP is the final thing holding this server back from consistent 100+ pop. It doesn't need to be some strawman 500% bonus exp argument that nihilum will rail against in this thread, just something around the 150-200% range. Not only will new people come, but others will make alts as well. The only people who seem to be so against it are the ones who have had all of their alts powerleveled.
SamwiseRed
04-28-2012, 09:06 PM
would play again if SearyxTZ made <Planar Protectors> and made the req to joining a 1k post count (or w/e is required for this prestigious title.) would roll a pally to smite the zerg in Gods name
gloinz
04-28-2012, 09:12 PM
save the server - BOOST THE XP
i just want to pvp folk i dont want to spend years leveling naw mean
Lyzard
04-28-2012, 09:18 PM
Being a blue 99 player i'd love to play a character on Red 99 but the very long levelling process is all but void of any player activity, and when rarely encountering another player, be prepared for griefing and general insulting/trolling immediately.
Tippett
04-28-2012, 10:02 PM
You wouldn't be supporting a longer 40-50 grind if you were level 40 (which Searyx himself never accomplished on the server)
TRUST ME
Brewdus
04-28-2012, 10:21 PM
Is there a way to make the mob's weaker and give out the same amount of xp?
Drop NPC AC by 50% for PC's only (not pets) for non-raid mobs/dungeons.I'm not sure how you could give the bonus to just PCs and not pets, but that would help the melee's w/o buffing pet classes.
PS. Could give melee's 50% or so more ac towards those same type of NPCs
hagard
04-28-2012, 10:45 PM
save the server - BOOST THE XP
i just want to pvp folk i dont want to spend years leveling naw mean
/signed just want to slay girly men and have fun, not 50,000 orcs 50,000 crocs and god knows how many frogs
Lazortag
04-29-2012, 12:21 AM
So basically most of you can't hold a camp for an extended period of time without getting dirtnapped, so the server should be made easier for you? Hmmm.
heartbrand
04-29-2012, 12:24 AM
Re-read every post in this thread, not sure where you got that conclusion.
hagard
04-29-2012, 12:26 AM
So basically most of you can't hold a camp for an extended period of time without getting dirtnapped, so the server should be made easier for you? Hmmm.
Umm no I have 1 pvp death it's the fact I can't land a group you nihilum scum bag
gloinz
04-29-2012, 12:33 AM
bluebie just scared of having the big pvp champ single handedly wiping raids
hagard
04-29-2012, 01:31 AM
Blubie scurred
Brewdus
04-29-2012, 02:45 AM
What about some temporary hot zones? That would help funnel the few non-50s to an area.
Shocker
04-29-2012, 05:56 AM
hahahaha. rangers could never tank a mob solo in eq. L2P. its called a little bit of snare, get a fucking bow. and learn to use it. kiting and u can kill shit as a hybrid. you are that so use your abilities. think outside the box. =D hehe you know whats good sektor. lil bit of shit talk cuz im bored.
SearyxTZ
04-29-2012, 05:59 AM
What about some temporary hot zones? That would help funnel the few non-50s to an area.
This is a very good idea.
tefog
04-29-2012, 08:12 AM
and could bring more pvp too
Sektor
04-29-2012, 09:37 AM
hahahaha. rangers could never tank a mob solo in eq. L2P. its called a little bit of snare, get a fucking bow. and learn to use it. kiting and u can kill shit as a hybrid. you are that so use your abilities. think outside the box. =D hehe you know whats good sektor. lil bit of shit talk cuz im bored.
My first post states that I snared it and burst of flames it down to 75%. Didn't think I'd get raped so fast.
Giovanni
04-29-2012, 11:09 AM
A 20 Ranger vs a level 20 mob.
Not many classes are soloing even cons at any level.
gloinz
04-29-2012, 11:44 AM
Not many classes are soloing even cons at any level.
nerf necros/druids
Hovis
04-29-2012, 12:36 PM
So basically most of you can't hold a camp for an extended period of time without getting dirtnapped, so the server should be made easier for you? Hmmm.
providing further proof to the server how much of an idiot you really are...
SamwiseRed
04-29-2012, 01:00 PM
fuck it, Null please implement Project M. That shit was so fun until they nerfed it.
been saying this since day 1... "melee will be screwed months from now..."
SamwiseRed
04-29-2012, 03:08 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/19662507.jpg
Combobreaker
04-29-2012, 03:23 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/19662507.jpg
Lazortag
04-29-2012, 03:37 PM
providing further proof to the server how much of an idiot you really are...
Yeah, let's make all mobs weaker, great idea. That won't screw over charming classes or completely trivialize soloing classes. It's too bad the people making all of these idiotic suggestions don't run their own server so that they could see how terrible their ideas would turn out.
I don't know why you would ever roll a melee knowing that it's so difficult to find groups. I get that everyone should be allowed to play the class they want, but you're just going to end up quitting in frustration if you play a rogue as your main on a pvp server with a nightly pop barely reaching the triple digits. Don't make a dumb decision and then expect the staff to completely change the mechanics of the server for you afterwards.
jdklaw
04-29-2012, 03:58 PM
What about some temporary hot zones? That would help funnel the few non-50s to an area.
cool, i heard they just did this.
The hot zones are: blackburrow, crushbone, unrest, mistmoor, guk, sola, solb, befallen, highpass/highkeep etc
Dullah
04-29-2012, 05:10 PM
I played a rogue and soloed quite a bit using snare daggers/poisons and melee fear. Works really well up to 40ish.
hagard
04-29-2012, 07:57 PM
I played a rogue and soloed quite a bit using snare daggers/poisons and melee fear. Works really well up to 40ish.
Yeah I believe that... Not
.
I don't know why you would ever roll a melee knowing that it's so difficult to find groups.
And you are still full retard
SamwiseRed
04-29-2012, 08:07 PM
Yeah I believe that... Not
And you are still full retard
SamwiseRed
04-29-2012, 08:16 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/19682098.jpg
FoxxHound
04-29-2012, 10:50 PM
^^
65+ Nihilum?
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