TERA - Valley of Titans

[Albane]

Is anyone playing this game on this PvP server? The game is no where near as hardcore as EQ, but it provides entertainment and fun PvP for the more casual of us.

[bamzal]

its hardcore - baller

[Andis]

EQ reigns

[Hovis]

EQ reigns

[Dullah]

I went to basilisk crag because valley of titans was full.

Still debating whether I want to subscribe. Will depend on whether or not I can find at least 3-5 people to go in on it with. Got to 25 in beta, and we get to keep beta chars (yay).

I don't fully understand the pvp, but it does seem pretty hardcore. If you go outlaw, seems you can basically attack anyone, but anyone can attack you as an outlaw. If you don't go outlaw, only advantage is you're safe from anyone who isn't an outlaw...

[bamzal]

seems to me that you just use the outlaw button to make your skills be able to hit other people, it only lasts for like 60 seconds then u gota use it again,

[Dullah]

Huh?

Im talking about the status that turns your name red and allows you to pvp in nonguard areas. Pretty sure its permanent.

[lethdar]

You stay outlaw if you grief lowbies, giving you a stat called infamy.

[jdklaw]

lvl 5 baracka mystic na mean?

[Dullah]

soo.. if you don't pvp you are no longer attackable and your name changes back to blue?

[heartbrand]

I went to basilisk crag because valley of titans was full.

Still debating whether I want to subscribe. Will depend on whether or not I can find at least 3-5 people to go in on it with. Got to 25 in beta, and we get to keep beta chars (yay).

I don't fully understand the pvp, but it does seem pretty hardcore. If you go outlaw, seems you can basically attack anyone, but anyone can attack you as an outlaw. If you don't go outlaw, only advantage is you're safe from anyone who isn't an outlaw...

going perma outlaw is terrible, as cast found out, you just get shit stomped by 60 people whenever you go outside of a town. PVP is a LOT of fun, and I like how it really focuses on PVP in groups. The perfect number of people to grind with is really about 3, tons of guilds and ez to get in with other people.

[heartbrand]

soo.. if you don't pvp you are no longer attackable and your name changes back to blue?

You flag outlaw to be able to attack other people, and consequently you can be attacked. However, someone else can flag outlaw when you're not and attack you as well. Hope this makes sense.

[Vile]

d3 only new game ill try...

[Gongshow]

Tera is pretty good.

Emperor Gongshow
Alpha

[SearyxTZ]

More like a Korean WoW clone that's heavily instanced and has shitty meaningless PvP



Also is this forum for making threads about crappy MMORPGs, or general discussion for the red EQ server? =]

DAILY DOUBLE TRIVIA QUESTION

[dogbarf]

PvP on a 60 pop emulated everquest server is super meaningful.

[heartbrand]

Because PVP on this server is meaningful? Logged on last night to PVP cuz no Tera till Friday, following happened. Was just me and Mornin keep in mind. Murder and apple insta camp when we found their zone, arzak insta camped wen we entered same zone, battle insta quit out of world upon PVP 3x, arzak camped again, murder and apple plugged again, battle plugged one more time then murder and apple plugged one last time. Actual PVP battles? 0.

[SamwiseRed]

http://www.cosplayful.com/media/catalog/category/SuperSailorMoon.jpg

+

http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/286575_S/mists-of-pandaria-overview-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-world-of-warcraft-expansion.jpg

= Tera

[heartbrand]

I agree the models suck but the actual environments are gorgeous and the bosses are well done

[SamwiseRed]

HB come play EVE. shits hard. go hard or go home.

[SearyxTZ]

Man, if I had a dime for every time someone jumped on a new MMO and hyped it up in their own mind to be TOTALLY KEWL and THE NEXT EQ (before they get bored two weeks later).


You will all be playing box again when the nihilum zerg butthurt wears off or Rexx flies his flaming ginger Heresy banner. Real talk.

[heartbrand]

Hate to break it to you but nihilum isn't going anywhere. I actually told my troops today to all go app nihilum. If the other people on this server are too brain dead to figure out how to compete then nihilum deserves to monopolize this shit.

[heartbrand]

HB come play EVE. shits hard. go hard or go home.

Ill give eve a two hour trial. It looks terrible but for ur sake as ur a pal I'll give it that.

[SearyxTZ]

u are letting the terrorists (bluebies) win + letting down your country



just remember that you have to look at yourself in the mirror every morning pal

[SamwiseRed]

Man, if I had a dime for every time someone jumped on a new MMO and hyped it up in their own mind to be TOTALLY KEWL and THE NEXT EQ (before they get bored two weeks later).


You will all be playing box again when the nihilum zerg butthurt wears off or Rexx flies his flaming ginger Heresy banner. Real talk.

i see where you comin from but EVE is more of a sandbox than an mmorpg. im not saying its better than eq because you cant really compare the two. not the next EQ but definitely something completely different for meh.

[heartbrand]

The only people letting nihilum win are the same people it has always been, the leadership of FF.

[SamwiseRed]

damn 2 hours youll probably quit. waay too much to take in. i mean besides how you interact from players, everything youve learned from former mmos will not help you here. there isnt classes, few rules, and from the start you can be griefed or be the griefer. its cool man if you having fun on Tera then stick to that.

[SearyxTZ]

Eve looks the most legit of any MMO because of the supposed hardcore pvp, but it is completely different in style.



All the GW2, Tera, Runes of Magic, Warhammer, Rift, Aion, etc etc WoW clones can suck it. LMK when someone makes one where I can go into non-instanced dungeons and kill people.

[Diggles]

Fuck outlaw flagging I can grief anyone anytime in EVE. I look at someone I don't like, fit a cheap ass gallente dessy, overload all modules, sit back, and watch the fireworks udig?

[dogbarf]

Right clicking context menus over varying space wallpapers is intense and skilled pvp.

5apm to play at peak performance is too high a skillcap.

[SamwiseRed]

EQ pvp was fun until population crash. one problem i have with EQ pvp is that besides competeing for raid mobs, there is no meaning for pvp. I made up stories and posted kill pics because it was fun but it got old. I didnt raid on live and certainly didnt plan to raid here. I am not a raider and for that, I am kinda screwed because thats where the big pvp is at. Even if i had got to 50 and pvped over dragons and won, i dont want to spend an hour buffing, planning, then fighting a mob for 20 min.

i guess my point is, i feel like there is no point in pvping over mobs. Probably why I liked Sullon Zek so much because in a way you were fighting the darkies and neuts for control of zones. i remember when FF controlled mistmore, I had motivation to build up and army and kick them out but by the time I got a guild going most of them were out of there. Dunno why i am ranting, shit doesnt even make sense. i like peanuts.

[SearyxTZ]

Well the guilds are supposed to be the teams here. One of them is just mega fat right now and bullies the other ones.


u can't just let the bullies win and slink off to Sailor Moon Online ok

[SamwiseRed]

when i see a darkelf wizard grouped with a high elf pally. my immersion is completely ruined.

[Diggles]

Right clicking context menus over varying space wallpapers is intense and skilled pvp.

5apm to play at peak performance is too high a skillcap.

And you have no idea how eve PvP or even combat mechanics work.

[SamwiseRed]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCWsuAIAtew&feature=related

45 min of real muzic.

[SearyxTZ]

Right clicking context menus over varying space wallpapers is intense and skilled pvp.

did lol at this

I watched some youtubes of Eve pvp and this is kinda what it seemed like =[

[Albane]

Man, if I had a dime for every time someone jumped on a new MMO and hyped it up in their own mind to be TOTALLY KEWL and THE NEXT EQ (before they get bored two weeks later).

You will all be playing box again when the nihilum zerg butthurt wears off or Rexx flies his flaming ginger Heresy banner. Real talk.

No chance Tera will hold my interest for longer than it takes to dominate the Battlegrounds this summer. But leveling is really the most fun I have in MMO's these days. Raiding is a huge time sink for small character improvements and PvP is only fun if it is a challenge.

I would think after 12 years, everyone else would have learned by now that dedicating more than a few months to any game is where it goes from entertainment to obsession.

In a few months I will switch over to GW2 and then probably give Diablo 3 a few weeks as well.

These are all games meant to entertain, not a new purpose to your life.

[SamwiseRed]

damn lost 20 ships because i cant work a context menu :(

[Diggles]

did lol at this

I watched some youtubes of Eve pvp and this is kinda what it seemed like =[

There's a shit ton of other mechanics, overload management, drones, weapon tracking, electronic warfare, so on and so forth.

But you're right, eve is click and afk, and EQ is the end all of video game combat skill

[SamwiseRed]

didnt realize APM was equivalent to pvp skill. you have more to lose in EVE than any other game ive played, except hardcore diablo ii and eq DIscord server. if apm is the case then i assure you EQ isnt not challenging. Maybe StarCraft 1.

[SearyxTZ]

No chance Tera will hold my interest for longer than it takes to dominate the Battlegrounds this summer. But leveling is really the most fun I have in MMO's these days. Raiding is a huge time sink for small character improvements and PvP is only fun if it is a challenge.

I would think after 12 years, everyone else would have learned by now that dedicating more than a few months to any game is where it goes from entertainment to obsession.

In a few months I will switch over to GW2 and then probably give Diablo 3 a few weeks as well.

These are all games meant to entertain, not a new purpose to your life.

It ain't called Everquest for nothing

[SamwiseRed]

oddly besides epics and a few faction quests, i recall little questing :)

[Diggles]

Neverquest

[SamwiseRed]

representing the red community in EVE

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Samwise+Everquest&filter=losses

Samwise Everquest - Lowsec Roamer
and yes i got owned my first 2 weeks. however this weekend gonna hit it hard now that i got some more skills and experience.

[Diggles]

This weekend we're kickin some peeps out of wormholes

[SamwiseRed]

ah shit bro, ill bring my Myrm/Vexor if you want a body to hurl at your enemies.

[Diggles]

ah shit bro, ill bring my Myrm/Vexor if you want a body to hurl at your enemies.

Most likely it will be a snore fest, we are scanning moons for $$$ and PvP happens if we find some wayward explorers in the wormhole

[SamwiseRed]

can you even have your clone inside a wormhole?

[SearyxTZ]

plz get a room, Spock and Chewbacca

[SamwiseRed]

Butterfly Effect my friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2oxt7Nrxo

[Diggles]

can you even have your clone inside a wormhole?

no stations inside wormholes, so no jumpy clones. Gotta have someone parked inside of it who can scan down the wormhole exit every day or so.

[Tombom]

plz get a room, Spock and Chewbacca

underrated post i lol'd

[Diggles]

plz get a room, Spock and Chewbacca

sorry you dont have anyone here brofisting your misguided love of shitty dying ffa pvp server

[Cwall]

i wish mortal online wasn't completely terrible

such a cool idea

[SamwiseRed]

more meaningful pvp in runescape, at least you lose your items upon death.

[SamwiseRed]

damn watched some Tera videos. looks way too much like Aika and Aion. at least in aika your guild can seize control of the nation.

[Diggles]

eve has item loot and there isn't a thing like no-trade or lore

blow up super mega ship and get $$$

actually tested this on test server, if you salvage a titan it can drop between 475 million to 20 billion ISK in salvage

[SamwiseRed]

20 bil isk = play for free for 40 months

[Diggles]

fuck that, 20 bil can get you a 50-75 mill SP character

[Cwall]

too bad eve is boring as fuck

fell asleep playing the trial

[SamwiseRed]

too bad eve is boring as fuck

fell asleep playing the trial

at least falling asleep at the keyboard is classic

[Diggles]

too bad eve is boring as fuck

fell asleep playing the trial

Plays Everquest PvP
Thinks another game is boring

[SearyxTZ]

You are posting on an Everquest PvP forum bro.

[EQtrader]

is it you guys cant make friends on eve?.. i dont understand no one wants to play it besides maybe 3 people..

[Cwall]

Plays Everquest PvP
Thinks another game is boring

joke's on you pal, i haven't logged onto red in the past 5+ months

[Tassador]

tera probably best game of the year award. it is time for some TERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SamwiseRed]

May your blades never dull. oh wait thought that was wow :D

[Rexxin]

The only people letting nihilum win are the same people it has always been, the leadership of FF.

Define win? last time I checked we were playing EVERQUEST you cant win. I find it funny how having the largest guild means you are winning, Ive played this game for ?? to long and i cannot tell you how many of the big guilds have come and gone, its only a matter of time before the 50 members of Nihi get sick of watching the same 10 people splitting the 4 or 5 boss loots a week split up over coruption and greed. If wining EQ to you means having the biggest guild and getting the most loot your should be playing on a blue server, FF stands its ground, has memebers who have played together for years and has a great time playing together. Our core is not interested in having the masses, we have all seen how well that works out for other guilds currently and in the past. Id rather pvp against 50 nihi with our 25 members than have to fight another guild with the same 25 members as us... Just saying either shut up n play or leave you sound like a good candidate for Nihilum....

FF is always looking for quality players we know who you are...

[heartbrand]

The above post is why nihilum will always rule this server.

[SamwiseRed]

ruling the raid seen in not winning. however if its fun then more powah to them.

[Rexxin]

Heartbrand you bleed blue

[SamwiseRed]

if it bleeds, we can kill it

[heartbrand]

Yes, the guy who does nothing but log on, look for nihilum members to kill, then logs off, is true blue

[Rexxin]

Sounds Like a good time to me, what seems to be your problem?

[SamwiseRed]

for those enjoying tera

http://gifs.gifbin.com/112010/1290165886_rsd4rn.gif

[Xantille]

Got to level 17, killed someone with my morbidly obese kitten w/ greatsword, haven't played since. #terafuntimes

If I didn't have exams coming up, I'd be poopsocking the FUCK out of this game though, bros.

[Dullah]

Best moments of beta:

killing some level 30ish guy when me and buddy were around lvl 20. He was teleporting all around and we had to keep up and keep him in combat so he couldn't mount and get away. Kept shooting him with poisoned arrows and shit while my partner stayed out of combat to run fast and keep ccing him.

Also, fighting giant group mobs with only 2 people. They hit for about 30% of my life in one hit, could basically 1 shot you if they caught you. Had to be mad slick and manually dodge them and keep them slow or else get trampled to death. Like 10 minute fights.

[SamwiseRed]

Got to level 17, killed someone with my morbidly obese kitten w/ greatsword, haven't played since. #terafuntimes

If I didn't have exams coming up, I'd be poopsocking the FUCK out of this game though, bros.

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/04f49bb464a5040c88f898021c0eeb8e.jpg

[Wanders]

One...more...day...

Anime style graphics suck, nothing else to complain about though. The open world pvp is the most fun I've had since Rallos. I am sure Eve is fun times once you invest 100+ hours learning the mechanics front to back. I just can't handle that right now.

Buddy passes are supposed to be released sometime today, two of mine are spoken for but if you would like the 3rd to give it a try pm me and I'll see what I can do.

[HarrisonStillPosting]

Yes, the guy who does nothing but log on, look for someone dumb enough to buy my shitty character so I can transfer to P99, then logs off, is true blue

[goalie]

go to the eve / tera forums and fuck off out of here, thx <3

[SamwiseRed]

go to the eve / tera forums and fuck off out of here, thx <3

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/images/attachment/yeah-he-mad-10160.jpg

[SamwiseRed]

rip EVE trading hub

https://tagn.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/jita01.jpg?w=1000&h=

[lethdar]

Tera is pretty much best option for pvp. Massive outdoor fights, ganking people while they're trying to kill world bosses, surprisingly entertaining pve.

Or you could farm frogloks with no pvp on a eq server with 40 ppl.

[SamwiseRed]

meh if im going to fantasy it up, itll be eq but for now space pirate samwise havin too much fun in the sandbox.

[lethdar]

Played eve back when it first came out, back when there were only like 2-3k people online at any time. It was decently fun but too become immersed in the grief when everything is activating autofiring context menus.

I'll just stick with breaking peoples gear in pvp deaths, griefing them during world bosses, training elites on groups (confirmed by GMs to be legal, lol!) and all around assholery in an entertaining fantasy setting.

[Wanders]

The anti grief system is awesome, as it doesn't work :D fire blasting the city exit as people crossed the bridge from lumber town was the highlight of my weekend. All I've really been doing since servers went down is watch Korean version youtube video's.

Not relying on 20+ players to do pve is a nice change to but I am sure that will change into "raids" eventually as they westernize game play. Also not looking forward to the BG's as it will destroy world pvp but that has been said to be at least 6 months away.

I thought the channel system was going to suck, being out law though its really funny hopping a channel and running behind a group of people and switching back to the channel you were just in, dropping sleep/fire blast's on peoples faces before they even realize what just happened. I was accused of hacking numerous times among very kind names, there were a few who gave props though which is always nice.

PM me if your playing on Jagged coast (think that was server name)

[lethdar]

Jagged coast? Bad, should reroll and hit cap this weekend on VoT.

But yeah channel system turned out to not be bad at all, makes for some entertaining tactics when you coordinate channel hopping in behind a group of baddies trying to protect the newbs.

[Wanders]

How many you guys have? Also how are the queue times, whole reason I switched was due to the hour wait to play when servers came up.

Leveling is fast if you have two or three people starting up together but if not I don't know if I really want to poopsock through the same content I just did last weekend. I have enough quests saved to get around 35 when server comes up, gear and shit on top of that is going to make it really hard to start over again.

If you guys have a solid crew running shit the gear wont take long to replace once I am caught up but man I don't know. Only reason I am considering it is I don't like playing with these wow kids who think they're pro cause they run heroics and feel a 1500 rating in arena somehow gives them credibility. My dog can obtain a 1500 rating :D

[Humerox]

I don't like playing with these wow kids who think they're pro cause they run heroics and feel a 1500 rating in arena somehow gives them credibility. My dog can obtain a 1500 rating :D

for some reason when i read this i remembered

THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLYrFR9RT_U&feature=related)

If I'm naked and I play 1 VS 2 I get better than 1400 rating...

[lethdar]

Training actually works in this game which makes it refreshing as fuck. BAMs/worldbosses will rape the shit outta groups not seeing them coming.

[LizardNecro]

Lethdar you are making me want to play this. I was thinking GW2 though... any thoughts on GW2 vs Tera?

[Wanders]

That video made my day, his boy friend in the back just makes it so much better.

[Albane]

Good news for anyone itching to play. They bumped up the headstart to 8am PST.

http://tera.enmasse.com/news/launch-schedule

[Wanders]

Your my hero I likely wouldn't of double checked that shit.

Someone hook up some adderal, apparently I am rerolling :(

[seaweedpimpz]

Lol who would pay 50 dollars for that shit?

I barely even had the want to try it, and i thought it was free.


Have fun with those animations.

[Gongshow]

I love Tera.

Hey, I just met you.
And this is crazy.
But here's my number.
So call me, maybe.

Alpha.

[Tippett]

Looking for a guild before tera launch p99 pals use voice chat get @ me.

[lethdar]

Oh man $50, cuz that's a fuck ton of money amirite?

Yes glix tera >>> GW2. I'm not in beta but a lot of people I know are and they're pissed about GW2. It's a big step away from GW1 in the wrong direction.

[SamwiseRed]

I thought Tera was free considering its a clone. they gonna make mad cash with the current hype then skate the fuck out :D

[HarrisonStillPosting]

Lol this game is a joke

[Tippett]

Oh man $50, cuz that's a fuck ton of money amirite?

Guess not everyone is employed :cool:

Also

Looking for a guild before tera launch p99 pals use voice chat get @ me.

[SamwiseRed]

damn basiah you willin to play tera and not EVE :( at least you lasted longer than Cast lol

[Tippett]

Too many menus my ***** made my head hurt.

[SamwiseRed]

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/229213.jpg

[Wanders]

Go watch a stream of GW 2 - So happy I didn't pre order, the fact you had to pre order to get into open beta kind of screamed negative things anyways. People are quite bitter about it.

Tera isn't free to play if there is anyone actually wondering. As to them making loads of money from it, yes they are. Pre orders alone on Amazon passed diablo 3 and gw2 for both collectors edition and regular copies. Everyone even got to play open beta without purchasing first unlike gw2 and the sales indicate something more then another wow clone.

Seriously go watch a video Sam, I downloaded it for the free open beta with no intentions of ever buying it. Like you I figured another Aion Korean grind fest. Besides the generic quests that every MMO has to help guide you through leveling areas it is no wow clone and the combat system makes it actually fun to level not just an obstacle to end game and pvp.

[lethdar]

Just like you can pvp in eve stations sam.

O wait.

[Tippett]

Looking for a guild before tera launch p99 pals use voice chat get @ me.

[goalie]

who all is pre-ordering?

[SamwiseRed]

Go watch a stream of GW 2 - So happy I didn't pre order, the fact you had to pre order to get into open beta kind of screamed negative things anyways. People are quite bitter about it.

Tera isn't free to play if there is anyone actually wondering. As to them making loads of money from it, yes they are. Pre orders alone on Amazon passed diablo 3 and gw2 for both collectors edition and regular copies. Everyone even got to play open beta without purchasing first unlike gw2 and the sales indicate something more then another wow clone.

Seriously go watch a video Sam, I downloaded it for the free open beta with no intentions of ever buying it. Like you I figured another Aion Korean grind fest. Besides the generic quests that every MMO has to help guide you through leveling areas it is no wow clone and the combat system makes it actually fun to level not just an obstacle to end game and pvp.

i wouldnt even be playing EVE if it wasnt something completely different. tbh when i get done with EVE ill probably be done with mmos for awhile. prob go back to consoles. damn p99 brought me back to the PC. I was having a blast ganking people in Dark Souls. red99 brought me back to PC gaming, damn them.

[SamwiseRed]

would also like to know who is preording. i dont trust betas and refuse to invest time in them.

[goalie]

i didnt have a lot of time to play the beta, thats why i asked who was pre-ordering, dont really wanna spend 50 beans unless theres a lot of support from pvpers

[Tippett]

Pre-ordered, also:

Looking for a guild before tera launch p99 pals use voice chat get @ me.

[Wanders]

I hear you Sam, if the combat system of this game wasn't what it is, I wouldn't be playing it. I am pretty burnt out on MMO's as well. If this fails which I am fairly confident it wont but I will likely give Diablo 3 a go even though there is limited to no pvp.

I wasn't all that impressed with the Diablo beta, but its Diablo and that itself is enough for me to buy it.

It's funny you mention Dark Souls, I keep going back to it out of love for Demon souls but both games were ruined by dupes. Demon souls was amazing before people learned how to dupe.

[goalie]

I hear you Sam, if the combat system of this game wasn't what it is, I wouldn't be playing it. I am pretty burnt out on MMO's as well. If this fails which I am fairly confident it wont but I will likely give Diablo 3 a go even though there is limited to no pvp.

I wasn't all that impressed with the Diablo beta, but its Diablo and that itself is enough for me to buy it.

It's funny you mention Dark Souls, I keep going back to it out of love for Demon souls but both games were ruined by dupes. Demon souls was amazing before people learned how to dupe.

are you paying the 50 (or 60) to pre-order?

[bamzal]

Valley of Titans tomorrow 8 AM PST / 10 AM CST

[Tippett]

Valley of Titans tomorrow 8 AM PST / 10 AM CST

Guild name?

[goalie]

havent pulled the trigger yet, still trying to decide ;/

[pojab]

just bought this on ebay. never played it. getting pretty excited for open beta to start when i get home from work on monday.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Robotrekboxart.jpg

[Oadina]

I don't think tera has more than a month's life span, especially for you guys. I only made it to 9 or so before getting a bit bored, but things i noticed that were not inline with sucessful mmo's. Maybe someone who made it higher could clarify for me?
1. Mobs did not aggro? They just look at you.
2. no dependency on grouping - every class can solo?
3. Classes were overpowered (ae'ing alone)?
4. too easy in general, forced questing, hate mobs that give (1) exp.

Does it get different/better?

[goalie]

interesting. Glad i didn't buy it..yet. Would be nice to know other ppls takes on the above

[lethdar]

I don't think tera has more than a month's life span, especially for you guys. I only made it to 9 or so before getting a bit bored, but things i noticed that were not inline with sucessful mmo's. Maybe someone who made it higher could clarify for me?
1. Mobs did not aggro? They just look at you.
2. no dependency on grouping - every class can solo?
3. Classes were overpowered (ae'ing alone)?
4. too easy in general, forced questing, hate mobs that give (1) exp.

Does it get different/better?

Looool

You didn't even make it off newbie island and you're talking about classes being OP and soloing? Warriors and rogues in everquest are pretty baller all stars at soloing decaying skeletons.

Do not attempt to play mmos if you're unable to critically think and determine that the 10 minutes spent on newbie island may not give you an accurate idea of the game in total.

[Wanders]

Have to agree, I started with zero beta knowledge and made it off newbie island in just a few hours. There is no "forced" questing, I am fairly sure you can grind your way to 60 if that was the route you wanted to go without ever interacting with a quest npc.

Never leaving newbie island I am sure you never got aggro and likely never even died. Of course the game seemed easy and every class looked OP what do you expect during the tutorial phase of the game?

Edit for 20 minute warning! :D Cheeto's and Amp in hand, no doze ready for anal insertion.

Ah one more thing, if you were bored with the combat system after 9 levels this is not the game for you! Just an opinion.

[Wanders]

wonder how many people are clicking play just to see the error over and over again :)

[compulsion]

I don't think tera has more than a month's life span, especially for you guys. I only made it to 9 or so before getting a bit bored, but things i noticed that were not inline with sucessful mmo's. Maybe someone who made it higher could clarify for me?
1. Mobs did not aggro? They just look at you.
2. no dependency on grouping - every class can solo?
3. Classes were overpowered (ae'ing alone)?
4. too easy in general, forced questing, hate mobs that give (1) exp.

Does it get different/better?

1. Mobs do agro. You will notice it more if you play a melee. Mobs don't agro from casting range even in EQ.
2. Every game has classes that are great solo vs. classes that shine in a group. Even in EQ, the only class that truly can't solo is a rogue. You won't see anyone soloing world bosses or hard modes, which is the only content that probably matters.
3. Yes, you can AE very low trash just like a lvl 12 EQ toon can AE lvl 2s. I'm sure you are referring to the level appropriate targets that are surrounded by trivial "minions". It's game design to make playing more interesting than using one attack 3-5x.
4. If by forced, you mean providing a logical and efficient way to level forces you to follow that path, I guess? Easy content is easy, tough content is tough. It isn't EQ where the most miserable, shittiest levels are the first 20.

I would guess that you rolled a sorc or archer, which are the lowest difficulty rating in the game. Like rolling a necro and saying EQ is easy. If you go for one of the other classes, you will find yourself improving your attack combos, rolls, and other defenses so you can continue quickly without using health pots.

Personally, I think Tera will succeed because of 2 factors:

1. You have an incredible amount of control over your own character. You are rolling, blocking, or setting up a charged attack rather than sitting in a root(here) or getting killed cause your 1 defensive CD is on cooldown when your opponent popped their instant kill macro(WoW). Tera combat involves managing several small factors rather than say, rooting til it sticks and hitting ice comet.
2. Tera has no "WTF is this shit?" skill. Think manaburn, 1 nice stupid button that takes all the complexity and judgement out of PvP. Anyone play Warhammer Online and remember the group heal spell? Healed everyone on the map and didn't require los, for barely more than the cost of a single target heal that required los. Gameplay was reduced to sitting in a hole and hitting 1 key as AP refreshed. Just an example, but just about every other game that has come and gone has one or several grossly out of place skills that ruin gameplay. So far in Tera, individual reaction and judgement means much more than any game skill.

[SamwiseRed]

I hear you Sam, if the combat system of this game wasn't what it is, I wouldn't be playing it. I am pretty burnt out on MMO's as well. If this fails which I am fairly confident it wont but I will likely give Diablo 3 a go even though there is limited to no pvp.

I wasn't all that impressed with the Diablo beta, but its Diablo and that itself is enough for me to buy it.

It's funny you mention Dark Souls, I keep going back to it out of love for Demon souls but both games were ruined by dupes. Demon souls was amazing before people learned how to dupe.

ya dupers are gay but damn dark souls pvp is awesome. the ability to invade peoples games to either grief them or make them pay for their sins is great. It sucked when everyone started using ring of fog? (forgot name but invis ring) but they patched that. I was in the forest cov for a few weeks. killed so many people lol

[SamwiseRed]

i wanted to be that one cov where you infect peoples games but i could never get anyone to come after me and I read it was broken. i havent played in 2-3 months though

[Tippett]

Looking for a guild before tera launch p99 pals use voice chat get @ me.

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You are all black.

[Oadina]

hush lethdar, do not attempt to answer peoples questions if you are unable to determine what they are asking~

Thank you compulsion. I only played a few hours (to level 9, or possibly even level 11) and started to get the feeling it was going to be a very easy game, no fear of dying. I did run into a field of mobs I was supposed to kill, they all turned to look at me, nothing aggro'd.. then I ae'd them all, alone. It felt a bit odd to say the least. I played a mystic, seemed very self sufficient.

This game is what, $50? and the last mmo's I've played, I wished I could return it after playing a month or two. I assume most of us were unsatisfied with other mmo's, or else we wouldn't be here ;) I have more questions!

1. How fast IS the leveling curve? Is it a race to the end, and then the real game begins? or does it feel over when you reach max level?
2. What's grouping like? Do you have your typical trinity roles, tank/dps/heal, or do people find themselves being able to switch roles?
3. Did anyone here get bored of it after playing beta?

I have such a collection of dusty mmos lying around that all disappointed me in the end. I really didn't want to add to it, I would need to get atleast 2 months entertainment out of it to rationalize spending money on it. I never got bored of EQ.. instead I would somehow burn myself out. Then I would take a break, and come back. =) I never managed to burn myself out on another game.

I guess the few hours I played wasn't quite enough to sell me, but I came here looking for more opinions from people who obviously understand what I'm comparing it to. I would like to be talked into it, or out of it. I'm regretting not trying it longer from everyone's feedback. I did appreciate the feedback, though, thank you =)

[Tippett]

I don't care what anybody says, watch the youtube guild vs guild PvP its badass

[SamwiseRed]

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k482/Phototurtle/Capture.png

You are all black.

if i played Tera, i would have filled your inbox up bro. haters gonna hate

[Wanders]

I can quite confidently say you will at the absolute minimum get 100 hours of fun out of Tera, you do the math on the 50 dollar purchase as everyone has different budgets for entertainment. Costs me $40.00 to take my girlfriend to the movies, I can more then justify the purchase of Tera but I wasn't bored by level 9 either so I don't know what to tell you.

[Tippett]

On a side note, anyone else having trouble logging in?

Getting bad gateways... pissing me off.

[seaweedpimpz]

So, feeling pretty confused. Is the beta active now? Would i have to order a real copy of the game for 50 usd to participate in beta?

Those graphics are terrrible but i could find some enjoyment with the combat system from what ive heard.


Definately not going to spit out 50 dollars on a beta game with some no name companies behind it. Even wow wasnt even worth 50 dollars in my opinion, and that doenst even include the monthly fee.

[Wanders]

Not sure Re rolling here was a good thing Lethdar, 1800 person queue is what people are saying. Just glad I made it back after the restart.

Beta was last weekend seaweed only way to play now is if you know someone who hasn't given their buddy passes away. Or buy the game I guess.

[Oadina]

2400 queue~ but they reimburse with xp bonus for the time you wait apparently.

[SamwiseRed]

Oadina come to eve, you would make a great tackler (kinda like crowd control)!

[Tippett]

109 minute que?

http://4logpc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/fuuuuuuu1.jpg

[Dullah]

I don't think tera has more than a month's life span, especially for you guys. I only made it to 9 or so before getting a bit bored, but things i noticed that were not inline with sucessful mmo's. Maybe someone who made it higher could clarify for me?
1. Mobs did not aggro? They just look at you.
2. no dependency on grouping - every class can solo?
3. Classes were overpowered (ae'ing alone)?
4. too easy in general, forced questing, hate mobs that give (1) exp.

Does it get different/better?

I felt the same way until level 20. Then you fight mobs that actually kill you if you suck, as well as mobs your level that require 5 players to kill and can kill you in 2 hits.

[Tippett]

Dullah where you playing? I went to basilisk or w/e because VoT que was waaaaaaay too long.

[gloinz]

http://tera.enmasse.com/game-guide/pvp

looks bluebie as fuck

[Seaweedpimp]

derp

[Tippett]

http://tera.enmasse.com/game-guide/pvp

looks bluebie as fuck

Still less blue then this server.

[SamwiseRed]

http://images.mmorpg.com/images/galleries/full/082011/e31cd767-d151-4f94-83ad-2616344c19f6.jpg

[Tippett]

Too many menus my ***** made my head hurt.

[SamwiseRed]

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyyw06fluv1qilq9oo1_500.jpg

nuff said

[SamwiseRed]

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyyw06fluv1qilq9oo1_500.jpg

nuff said

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[Diggles]

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[Tippett]

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[Diggles]

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[Oadina]

Oadina come to eve, you would make a great tackler (kinda like crowd control)!

I tried eve.. twice. I did not like it. =)

That game has been around forever

[Dullah]

Dullah where you playing? I went to basilisk or w/e because VoT que was waaaaaaay too long.

I went to basilisk crag because vot was full in beta. I subbed and continued there.

[Dullah]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pGRjqqPuEyM/Tx58JWn4vhI/AAAAAAAAATM/b3LmjJHI9ug/s400/seriously-meme+copy2.jpg
Did you seriously post an image, then post an image response to your own image?

Get a fucking life.

[SamwiseRed]

Did you seriously post an image, then post an image response to your own image?

Get a fucking life.

lol, little Sarnak agroing the wrong mob.

[SamwiseRed]

PVP is presently all hype. Unlike the hype about Tera's graphics and Action Combat System, there is nothing to support the hype about PVP. Crafting, Enchanting, PVE drops and quests can all impact a player's experience more then pvp, and this is the game on a "pvp" server. That shows the focus of the developers. They don't want to upset players with PVP penalties. It's ok to upset players with failed crafts and enchants, both of which require no skill. But upset a player with a penalty from pvp? Oh no, we wouldn't want to do that.

Yes, I am aware of the chance to break a crystal. Yes, I am aware of the 60 second penalty from losing your stamina. These are very minor inconveniences, not penalties. If I try to kill someone in a video game I want my opponent to do every thing possible to avoid dying. He should run, log, fight back, pop potions, call friends and anything else he can think of to avoid dying. If my opponent dies he should be upset, possibly screaming on Teamspeak, slamming his desk. Personally I would like it if whenever I killed a player they were disconnected from the game and had to log back in. That would be a good penalty! Not as good as blowing up their power supply, but it would work.

-some fat

[Dullah]

Non factor in eq bashing pvp in another game on eq forum = fail

Presently you can kill anyone as pk, and it forces them back to a city and requires them to find or use a campfire to regen their stamina. Breaking crystal is also a huge inconvenience, especially if its a rare crystal.

Beyond that, combat is based on aim which is unprecedented in a triple A title. You have to completely rethink the way you play your character as opposed to a tab target game. Shits sweet, and bashing it means you are either bad, or haven't experienced it for yourself (lvl 20+).

Furthermore, if you got logged out after dying, it would make you quit in a day, because your a nonfactor in the games you play based on evidence at r99 and spaceballs online.

Troll elsewhere.

[SamwiseRed]

breaking crystals sounds so fucking hardcore bro. griefers heaven in the works.

[SamwiseRed]

Non factor in eq bashing pvp in another game on eq forum = fail

Presently you can kill anyone as pk, and it forces them back to a city and requires them to find or use a campfire to regen their stamina. Breaking crystal is also a huge inconvenience, especially if its a rare crystal.

Beyond that, combat is based on aim which is unprecedented in a triple A title. You have to completely rethink the way you play your character as opposed to a tab target game. Shits sweet, and bashing it means you are either bad, or haven't experienced it for yourself (lvl 20+).

Furthermore, if you got logged out after dying, it would make you quit in a day, because your a nonfactor in the games you play based on evidence at r99 and spaceballs online.

Troll elsewhere.

im guessing you are in Nihilum because i only recognize your trade posts.

[Dullah]

The fact that you don't know who I am shows how aloof you are and little you matter when up until this week I played hours daily for the last 4 months.

[SamwiseRed]

nice DKP mate. http://transcendence.dkpsystem.com/memberprofile.php?memberid=482

[SamwiseRed]

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[SamwiseRed]

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1576/trordkp.jpg

[SamwiseRed]

btw Destin why are you praising Tera so much on this forum? on nilly forums you said it was "meh." Also rettiwalk scared to play server holo is on... confirmed.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/558/liars.jpg

[SamwiseRed]

noone will talk to me in dead ass nilly ts3. supreme wants 5 or 10 bucks for this shit.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8448/nillyts3.jpg

[Tombom]

sweet jesus, i might actually cry, out of care for my fellow humans, this is truly sad.

[SamwiseRed]

srs supreme, dont put your telephone number public bro especially since you have sprint. those guys (sprint) leak all sorts of shit. not trolling, being cereal.

[Beastro]

You stay outlaw if you grief lowbies, giving you a stat called infamy.

Fuck Oriental MMOs.

Same shit on Lineage 2 when I Betaed it, but I wound up doing some good griefing until I lost my bow.

[Dullah]

btw Destin why are you praising Tera so much on this forum? on nilly forums you said it was "meh." Also rettiwalk scared to play server holo is on... confirmed.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/558/liars.jpg

That was based mostly on what I read rather than having played it. Much like everything you say concerning anything.

Once you hit 20, Tera gains dynamic by leaps and bounds.

[SamwiseRed]

pvp death sounds like a slap on the wrist, next plz. going to sleep. nite nite

[jdklaw]

wanting to play on the same server as the other eq'ers makes me scared as fuck?

no sense of community...

[Ephirith]

Im on Jagged Coast rolling a mystic with my brother who is a lancer. Yesterday we got from 1-22 playing about... 15 hours or so.

As was stated above, combat was simple and without any element of risk until about 20 or so, where it becomes a bit more complex and you have more abilities at your disposal. Doing simple questing there isn't really that sense of risk you get in EQ, but when you add in pvp that helps things.

Me and my bro were outside Lumbertown doing some quests when two outlaws rolled up and attacked us. Pvp is such that, at least with my class, you better have all of your important abilities ready to fire right when you need them. Fight lasted a couple minutes and ended with us killing both of them, it was close though, they almost got me twice. Combat is really very refreshing, relies on quick decisionmaking to do well. Use the right ability right when you need it. You can tell when somebody doesn't know what the hell they are doing.

Will definitely keep me poopsocking until d2 comes out or for 200-300 hours at least. Lacks the depth/innovation it would need for real staying power, it'll definitely never compete with wow/swtor

This coming from an immensely jaded gamer and lifelong basement wizard.

Also I think ive got buddy codes if anyone wants to try it free.

[SamwiseRed]

Im on Jagged Coast rolling a mystic with my brother who is a lancer. Yesterday we got from 1-22 playing about... 15 hours or so.

As was stated above, combat was simple and without any element of risk until about 20 or so, where it becomes a bit more complex and you have more abilities at your disposal. Doing simple questing there isn't really that sense of risk you get in EQ, but when you add in pvp that helps things.

Me and my bro were outside Lumbertown doing some quests when two outlaws rolled up and attacked us. Pvp is such that, at least with my class, you better have all of your important abilities ready to fire right when you need them. Fight lasted a couple minutes and ended with us killing both of them, it was close though, they almost got me twice. Combat is really very refreshing, relies on quick decisionmaking to do well. Use the right ability right when you need it. You can tell when somebody doesn't know what the hell they are doing.

Will definitely keep me poopsocking until d2 comes out or for 200-300 hours at least. Lacks the depth/innovation it would need for real staying power, it'll definitely never compete with wow/swtor

This coming from an immensely jaded gamer and lifelong basement wizard.

good post.

[SamwiseRed]

bump for DKP. read previous pages.

[SamwiseRed]

been awhile since sailor moon online thread.

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