Stages of Grief: Its Science

[Mornin3.0]

Stages of Grief over Loss of Red99:

1. Denial

There is nothing that needs to be "fixed".


2. Anger

only vztjects think this server has failed/is dead.

If the admins would pay the server some attention with updates people might have confidence that its worth playing here.


3. Bargaining

I suggest opening up Plane of Sky this patch along with Hate and solRo, seems we behind schedule and will help to catch us up.

4. Depression

makes me sad

5. Acceptance

Nothing can save red99, not even CPR :-(

[jdklaw]

too much time wasted surfing threads for quotes imo

[FoxxHound]

too much time wasted surfing threads for quotes imo

[Kaino]

Right on the money, I'm like so sad I need to go to White Castle ASAP.

[Mornin3.0]

2. Anger

too much time wasted surfing threads for quotes imo

[Kaino]

[QUOTE=Mornin3.0;627930][B]2. Anger

At least they are moving past denial

[Kaino]

[B]2. Anger

At least they are moving past denial

[seaweedpimpz]

mornin, i was under the impression pussies crying out lots of blood would only bleed for a week..


how long are you gonna bleed pal?

[Kaino]

mornin, i was under the impression pussies crying out lots of blood would only bleed for a week..


how long are you gonna bleed pal?

2. Anger

[Mornin3.0]

Server obvious failure. Population will never recover without massive xp bonus and yellow text. All you faggots that think otherwise are still stuck in denial.

[Lazortag]

Server obvious failure. Population will never recover without massive xp bonus and yellow text. All you faggots that think otherwise are still stuck in denial.

"blah blah blah faggots blah blah pussies blah blah need yellow text blah blah blah carebear blah blah blah"

[Mornin3.0]

"blah blah blah faggots blah blah pussies blah blah need yellow text blah blah blah carebear blah blah blah"

obvious anger.. it will pass..

[jdklaw]

10-15 holocaust scrubs that quit to play blue think server failed.

110-115 that still play server daily think its a success.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8QUJGMszvhQ/TS5C9uoYKkI/AAAAAAAAACg/KwzsVNkQ57U/s1600/bg_sampling_tampax_always_img_new.gif

[Destan]

110-115 that still play server daily think its a success.



Even Nickleback has a few fans. You can find 100 people to think anything is a success...

[compulsion]

Server obvious failure. Population will never recover without massive xp bonus and yellow text. All you faggots that think otherwise are still stuck in denial.

A month from now, when we have 200% xp bonus and YT, someone will post that the only way to recover population will be to re-skin all the orc models in hot pink. These solutions are just some mode of desperation that is beyond any type of reasoning.

Did PoF increase population? No. Did xp bonus? Not after a month. Did PoH, SolRo, or global ooc increase population? Nope. Population is less than it was a month ago.

EQ was a great game, and still is in a lot of ways. 13 years later, content in EQ is more interesting and difficult than content in a current MMO. The problem with a red server is that the life and feel of the game is entirely in the community, and it requires a lot of individual effort to foster a large and competitive community. You need a diverse array of guilds with some very dedicated people to keep them going, and that just won't happen with the average age of this player base.

The EQ community just naturally devolved. Select against the people with careers, families, or other priorities in favor of ~30 year olds who need RMT to keep the Mt. Dew flowing and this is what you get. R99 has been great for bringing back some memories, but when your "endgame" choice comes down to either investing time in someone else's RMT scam or joining a bunch of semi-lucid, racist megalomaniacs, it's probably just time to log out.

This is a tangent, but if you really want to see population growth, get to the core of the problem and relaunch with 4 or 5 teams. Code in some of the community and don't just leave it up to the "adept guidance" of the forum trolls.

P.S. And get rid of the garbage resist system.

[Akim]

10-15 holocaust scrubs that quit to play blue think server failed.

110-115 that still play server daily think its a success.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8QUJGMszvhQ/TS5C9uoYKkI/AAAAAAAAACg/KwzsVNkQ57U/s1600/bg_sampling_tampax_always_img_new.gif

:D

[heartbrand]

A month from now, when we have 200% xp bonus and YT, someone will post that the only way to recover population will be to re-skin all the orc models in hot pink. These solutions are just some mode of desperation that is beyond any type of reasoning.

Did PoF increase population? No. Did xp bonus? Not after a month. Did PoH, SolRo, or global ooc increase population? Nope. Population is less than it was a month ago.

EQ was a great game, and still is in a lot of ways. 13 years later, content in EQ is more interesting and difficult than content in a current MMO. The problem with a red server is that the life and feel of the game is entirely in the community, and it requires a lot of individual effort to foster a large and competitive community. You need a diverse array of guilds with some very dedicated people to keep them going, and that just won't happen with the average age of this player base.

The EQ community just naturally devolved. Select against the people with careers, families, or other priorities in favor of ~30 year olds who need RMT to keep the Mt. Dew flowing and this is what you get. R99 has been great for bringing back some memories, but when your "endgame" choice comes down to either investing time in someone else's RMT scam or joining a bunch of semi-lucid, racist megalomaniacs, it's probably just time to log out.

This is a tangent, but if you really want to see population growth, get to the core of the problem and relaunch with 4 or 5 teams. Code in some of the community and don't just leave it up to the "adept guidance" of the forum trolls.

P.S. And get rid of the garbage resist system.

Except people haven't been making quit posts for the last five months because orcs don't have pink skin, they have however, been making quit posts because the EXP was too slow for an emulated PVP server with a prime time pop of ~55-60.

[SamwiseRed]

A month from now, when we have 200% xp bonus and YT, someone will post that the only way to recover population will be to re-skin all the orc models in hot pink. These solutions are just some mode of desperation that is beyond any type of reasoning.

Did PoF increase population? No. Did xp bonus? Not after a month. Did PoH, SolRo, or global ooc increase population? Nope. Population is less than it was a month ago.

EQ was a great game, and still is in a lot of ways. 13 years later, content in EQ is more interesting and difficult than content in a current MMO. The problem with a red server is that the life and feel of the game is entirely in the community, and it requires a lot of individual effort to foster a large and competitive community. You need a diverse array of guilds with some very dedicated people to keep them going, and that just won't happen with the average age of this player base.

The EQ community just naturally devolved. Select against the people with careers, families, or other priorities in favor of ~30 year olds who need RMT to keep the Mt. Dew flowing and this is what you get. R99 has been great for bringing back some memories, but when your "endgame" choice comes down to either investing time in someone else's RMT scam or joining a bunch of semi-lucid, racist megalomaniacs, it's probably just time to log out.

This is a tangent, but if you really want to see population growth, get to the core of the problem and relaunch with 4 or 5 teams. Code in some of the community and don't just leave it up to the "adept guidance" of the forum trolls.

P.S. And get rid of the garbage resist system.

bro this stuff came after the majority of players already quit. i mean for god's sake you got poeple playing sailor moon online.

[bigeasy]

if red99 is dead,, then say goodbye to the last real eq emu pvp server,,.. u may as well stop browsing these forums and start playing,, some of the new games coming out and don't look back

vztz was a shitfest of cheaters,, you won't find a more legit version of emu pvp than p1999 no emu box can even come close,,, i wonder if holo quitting has anything to do with the idea that they couldn't cheat on this box people think just because its an emu pvp that,, it should be easy and instant level 50 in 3 days

but jimmy crickets man,,, if u dont enjoy the server and quit thats fine,,.. but stop trying to rain on the parade of anybody elses fun regardless of your loud trolls r99 is here to stay,, and when kunark is released and other changes are made at the pace the devs deem ok it is after all their server then you fruitloops,, will have characters to come back and play on

what these cheaters want is 200% xp bonus so they can,, level to 50 in 2 days so they can cheat,, and train and do all their low life shit they do so once they are caught and banned,,.. they can start and level another new character to 50 and do that cycle until end of time

[heartbrand]

You know our educational system has failed when a post like ^ can be made by someone who is now a member of our work force.

[Traderjoes]

A month from now, when we have 200% xp bonus and YT, someone will post that the only way to recover population will be to re-skin all the orc models in hot pink. These solutions are just some mode of desperation that is beyond any type of reasoning.

Did PoF increase population? No. Did xp bonus? Not after a month. Did PoH, SolRo, or global ooc increase population? Nope. Population is less than it was a month ago.


My only real point was something drastic needs to change. All the current changes are fine but too late. Devs did not care or were too ignorant to realize their project was going down the shitter. Only something drastic can help this server and even 200% exp will not work now. GG server done. I will still log in a little to pwn noobs but atleast I am not in denial about how shit gone the server is. Maybe it might recover.. in 6-8 months... But i know I wont be wasting my life waiting for that.

[Mornin3.0]

bro this stuff came after the majority of players already quit. i mean for god's sake you got poeple playing sailor moon online.

lol

[hijinks]

The only thing at this point that will rejuvenate the server is Kunark. Nothing less. Nothing more.

Between now and Kunark many people who play will step away, and new players who are curious will come check it out. I expect pop to steady out between 60-80 on any given night.

The server will not be wiped or trolled into being shut down. P1999 Blue was like this when it first started, it's not the server peeps, it's classic. Classic is boring and for a crowd of hardcore players that know how to maximize their characters quickly, other than starting multiple alts, there is nothing to do but to eventually quit.

Unless another incarnation of VZTZ pops up, eventually the large crowd of people who quit will come back and play Kunark when it's released. Until then, expect the population to stay as is or continue to dwindle as people try out Diablo 3, GW2, and all the other new games that come out. Classic EQ cannot stand on it's own, regardless of the ruleset, it's boring.

[heartbrand]

The only thing at this point that will rejuvenate the server is Kunark. Nothing less. Nothing more.

Between now and Kunark many people who play will step away, and new players who are curious will come check it out. I expect pop to steady out between 60-80 on any given night.

The server will not be wiped or trolled into being shut down. P1999 Blue was like this when it first started, it's not the server peeps, it's classic. Classic is boring and for a crowd of hardcore players that know how to maximize their characters quickly, other than starting multiple alts, there is nothing to do but to eventually quit.

Unless another incarnation of VZTZ pops up, eventually the large crowd of people who quit will come back and play Kunark when it's released. Until then, expect the population to stay as is or continue to dwindle as people try out Diablo 3, GW2, and all the other new games that come out. Classic EQ cannot stand on it's own, regardless of the ruleset, it's boring.

A well written post by someone I clash with so often. A+

[jdklaw]

ya thats why Heartbrand has 3 known lvl 50s and just started a rogue, the only option is to get a lvl 50 of every class in anticipation of Kunark

[heartbrand]

Have literally not logged in to play for more than 10 minutes in two weeks. Absolutely swamped with work / real life, + nothing to do in game.

[HarrisonStillPosting]

Server obvious failure. Population will never recover without massive xp bonus and yellow text. All you faggots that think otherwise are still stuck in denial.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQIDYsxyc54-yPmglBMKN25T6pAHNLtLtb6QeHb0ybVR5ilpFiiGKUQHHs9yw

Griefed off of a pvp server by rejects from blue.

[Mornin3.0]

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQIDYsxyc54-yPmglBMKN25T6pAHNLtLtb6QeHb0ybVR5ilpFiiGKUQHHs9yw

Griefed off of a pvp server by server admins.

fixed.

[mostbitter]

The only thing at this point that will rejuvenate the server is Velious. Nothing less. Nothing more.

Between now and Velious many people who play will step away, and new players who are curious will come check it out. I expect pop to steady out between 60-80 on any given night.

The server will not be wiped or trolled into being shut down. P1999 Blue was like this when it first started, it's not the server peeps, it's classic. Classic is boring and for a crowd of hardcore players that know how to maximize their characters quickly, other than starting multiple alts, there is nothing to do but to eventually quit.

Unless another incarnation of VZTZ pops up, eventually the large crowd of people who quit will come back and play Velious when it's released. Until then, expect the population to stay as is or continue to dwindle as people try out Diablo 3, GW2, and all the other new games that come out. Classic EQ cannot stand on it's own, regardless of the ruleset, it's boring.


The only thing at this point that will rejuvenate the server is Luclin. Nothing less. Nothing more.

Between now and Luclin many people who play will step away, and new players who are curious will come check it out. I expect pop to steady out between 60-80 on any given night.

The server will not be wiped or trolled into being shut down. P1999 Blue was like this when it first started, it's not the server peeps, it's classic. Classic is boring and for a crowd of hardcore players that know how to maximize their characters quickly, other than starting multiple alts, there is nothing to do but to eventually quit.

Unless another incarnation of VZTZ pops up, eventually the large crowd of people who quit will come back and play Luclin when it's released. Until then, expect the population to stay as is or continue to dwindle as people try out Diablo 3, GW2, and all the other new games that come out. Classic EQ cannot stand on it's own, regardless of the ruleset, it's boring.



Here buddy you can come back and grab these nuggets once your giant group of hand holding friends finish farming kunark on a low pop server that releases content before fixing interest issues. Hopefully you'll realize content isn't what breeds interest in PVP players. Maybe try fighting someone, you might enjoy it.

[compulsion]

Except people haven't been making quit posts for the last five months because orcs don't have pink skin, they have however, been making quit posts because the EXP was too slow for an emulated PVP server with a prime time pop of ~55-60.

There will always be someone crying on forums for attention, which is the entire reason for a "quit post". How about your buddy IronLion? Posts 1 million times. Deletes toon like a 4 year old breaking his transformer. Posts 1 million more doom and gloom rants. Begs admins to reinstate toon, then cries that someone isn't there to undo his stupidity. And he couldn't even make 40.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64533

Most players voted for a smaller XP buff than we actually got, and since XP buff did nothing to increase population, it is only logical to accept that slow xp was not a root cause for people leaving. It also follows that any proposal which does not, after implementation, slow or counter the momentum of the server towards lower population is also not addressing a root cause.

If you really had any idea what you were talking about, you wouldn't need to skew/exaggerate the the population numbers. Population is regularly high 70s to low 80s at prime time, not 55-60. Less than 1 month ago it was 100-115 when we got a temporary boost from the last cure-all solution.

bro this stuff came after the majority of players already quit. i mean for god's sake you got poeple playing sailor moon online.

When people whine and cry for a change, get the change, and then just find something new to whine and cry about, it is because they just like to whine and cry. It's called acting out, it's an emotional response, and has nothing to do with any reasonable cause. You bitch all the time and you haven't even hit a hell level yet. I'm sure someone who can't handle 2.5 hr levels has some really valuable insight into why XP is too slow.

Personally, I am enjoying the 2500+ online and no level restriction, open world PvP that Tera offers. I spend more time thinking about making sure my guild wins its war than the issue that 2 of the 7 race choices are styled after anime.

The only thing at this point that will rejuvenate the server is Kunark. Nothing less. Nothing more... Classic EQ cannot stand on it's own, regardless of the ruleset, it's boring.

I used to agree. Kunark made EQ a much, much more interesting game and it would give the people who can't handle dungeon leveling some viable outdoor zones. But as far as PvP goes, the thought of 100 people spread out over 2 continents is pretty depressing. I think there is a good chance that those of us who were red on live just expect a more competitive and dynamic environment than an emu server may ever be able to reproduce. As I said in my last post, the staff has done their reasonable best to provide us with a quality EQ replice, but they can't undo the changes that time has made to player demographics.

[filthed5.0]

Stages of Grief over Loss of Red99:

1. Denial




2. Anger






3. Bargaining



4. Depression



5. Acceptance

worst druids ever were the holocaust 2.o druids. mornin never had cheetah on spell bar, neither him nor saidin ever had see invis up(yes u could hide cast on em all day), had to beg these bitches for a freakin buff on a pvp server.

[HarrisonStillPosting]

Compulsion won this forum.

[Tombom]

filth filthed off the server

[QUOTE=Smedy;637490]http://i.imgur.com/jOXpe.jpg

[Mornin3.0]

Actually filthed bring up good point... I actually have cheetah loaded on spell bar not once.. but twice. Essentially giving me 2 cheetahs.. rest of your nubs be jelly and L2P

[Dullah]

worst druids ever were the holocaust 2.o druids. mornin never had cheetah on spell bar, neither him nor saidin ever had see invis up(yes u could hide cast on em all day), had to beg these bitches for a freakin buff on a pvp server.
bump

[Amuk]

Skipped the thread, but saying that the exp bonus didn't bring in new people is because it's next to nothing - I could level my troll sk for fun but then I realised he has a 20% exp bonus at lvl 40 and a 68% exp penalty, sweet deals bro shits goin fast now.

I'd like to play an alt, and tried fucking hard to do a troll sk, but literally destroyed my sanity lvling him to 40 - and I think I have thicker skin than most, judging by pop.

Games old, classic eq is a retarded time sink - I can't even imagine kunark lvl 54 or whatever that insane level was classic style...

[Tombom]

Skipped the thread, but saying that the exp bonus didn't bring in new people is because it's next to nothing - I could level my troll sk for fun but then I realised he has a 20% exp bonus at lvl 40 and a 68% exp penalty, sweet deals bro shits goin fast now.

I'd like to play an alt, and tried fucking hard to do a troll sk, but literally destroyed my sanity lvling him to 40 - and I think I have thicker skin than most, judging by pop.

Games old, classic eq is a retarded time sink - I can't even imagine kunark lvl 54 or whatever that insane level was classic style...


yeah man red99 had a good shot. was fun to get that early/mid lvl pvp in for a while. but the vztz model is really where its at now days

[EQtrader]

tombom up and playing
yet on loz?