New Rules

[Arillious]

New Rules thread that was stickied:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?p=614446#post614446

This list looks like it was put together in 5 minutes, it is "Incomplete" so I'll give you a pass on the vagueness and missing content.

This portion of the "Global Server Rules" that "Apply to both servers" I found particularly interesting:

Training
Training can be defined as the intentional manipulation of NPC Placement and Aggro in such a way that causes it to attack another player that it wouldn't have otherwise if at it's normal spawn location. The most basic form of this is "dumping" mobs near another player or party and escaping via a form of teleportation or death. Intentional or not, this is against the rules. This rule is not limited to the basic example given, as there are many different forms of training players will use. You take all responsibility for mobs that you aggro. If you are trying to escape from a pack of NPC's but there is another group in your way, do not run through them. Even if your intention is not to train them, it would inevitable cause this and you may be subject to disciplinary. It is recommended that you take the death (Your responsibility for aggroing the mobs) and request a resurrection from nearby players.

If you happen to accidentally train a group of players, please immedietely notify the staff via /petition that you have done so by accident. Apologize to the players in question, and assist them with any recovery needed. If the staff hears about your train before you tell them, intention is no longer an excuse. (Repeated unintentional trains will still result in disciplinary action).

How can rules on training on a pvp server possibly be exactly the same as the PVE server? Do you think there's even a slight chance that if 1 rival guild accidentally kills another rival guild by a train, that they are going to help them get their corpse back and then apologize? Perhaps it was just laziness to combine this section but it seems like this is not a practical pvp rule.

[Mornin3.0]

The staff obviously doesn't like training on either server. So obviously you shouldn't do it. Not exactly the way I would like, coming from Sullen Zek, but it isn't our server is it?

[Rogean]

This isn't "new".

[Amelinda]

YEAH. I only meant the post was new :P Not The rules.

potayto potahto ;P

[Lulz Sect]

I fear someone's pet and it aggros the whole zone, is this training?

[Mornin3.0]

I fear someone's pet and it aggros the whole zone, is this training?

After talking to certain staff, it is my understanding that it is the responsibility of the owner of the pet to control his/her pet(whether is a charmed pet or not). Can we get a confirmation on that?

[Nirgon]

Step in the right direction from what I read, glhf. Old Man Nirgon is le tired.

[Winni]

I fear someone's pet and it aggros the whole zone, is this training?

You can fear pets, you cannot fear engaged mobs.

[Gongshow]

This server is like watching someone on life support who is suffering but their family is too stubborn to pull the plug, when in reality pulling the plug would just remove the burden from everyone involved.

Maybe a poor analogy but whatever, truth. Appreciate the "effort", if this can be labeled as such, but way too little, way too late.

[Awwalike]

quit already then dog if you give up

[Amelinda]

quit already then dog if you give up

this is true.

if YOU give up then sign out and go away. don't try to ruin the server for everyone else just to be a jerk. :P

[mostbitter]

oops

[Nirgon]

Time to come home, Gongshow.

http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/jesus_leading.jpg

(Inb4 it wasn't too late)

[HarrisonStillPosting]

quit already then dog if you give up

[fiegi 2.5]

but forums are still fun

[Giovanni]

Mobs play a factor in just about every single mass pvp battle between raid forces. To risk a character ban every time you try to get your pvp jollies is just ridiculous with the amount of time it takes to level on here.

Seriously, who wants to volunteer to play a monk in mass pvp with the way this server is run?

[Giovanni]

How many of the people in this pic still play on the server?

http://i42.tinypic.com/icoluc.jpg

[Gongshow]

The reactions from the hangers-on and GM's alike are comical. The player base did not, and does not have anything to do with this servers outcome. Put out something worth while, people will play. If that is too hard a task, at least be transparent with the community. Here we are 6 months in and quite honestly there is still zero direction with this server.

The population rarely breaches triple digits anymore and meaningful PVP is non-existent. The server is in a constant state of recycled players. You get some new people, they level up a bit, realize the server is bunk, quit, some random new ones take their place. Like Grimtoad said, notice you don't see very many of the original people around anymore. Holocaust maybe has 3-5 players still playing that started out as Holocaust. Terrible. Nihilum is almost as bad. The good players in Nihilum that started the rivalry and competition barely play. Hughman, Nerfed, Jerrin, Silver, Lovely, Nacho, Fallen, Beovvulf, etc. Look at Founding Fathers - they lost some players. Tallon Zek Times entire guild quit. Scary Bad Guys, while small, are always a staple in PVP communities. All quit. Turnover is rampant all across the community and the only collective "person" to point a logical finger at is staff. Pretty soon the recycled players won't be enough to keep pace with the droves that are quitting. 90 becomes 80. 80 becomes 70. Sooner or later, if this server continues down the same path, that "plug" needs to be pulled. Harsh reality.

PS. I am the Lord of EverQuest.

First 50 Monk: Gongshow

Alpha.

[heartbrand]

The reactions from the hangers-on and GM's alike are comical. The player base did not, and does not have anything to do with this servers outcome. Put out something worth while, people will play. If that is too hard a task, at least be transparent with the community. Here we are 6 months in and quite honestly there is still zero direction with this server.

The population rarely breaches triple digits anymore and meaningful PVP is non-existent. The server is in a constant state of recycled players. You get some new people, they level up a bit, realize the server is bunk, quit, some random new ones take their place. Like Grimtoad said, notice you don't see very many of the original people around anymore. Holocaust maybe has 3-5 players still playing that started out as Holocaust. Terrible. Nihilum is almost as bad. The good players in Nihilum that started the rivalry and competition barely play. Hughman, Nerfed, Jerrin, Silver, Lovely, Nacho, Fallen, Beovvulf, etc. Look at Founding Fathers - they lost some players. Tallon Zek Times entire guild quit. Scary Bad Guys, while small, are always a staple in PVP communities. All quit. Turnover is rampant all across the community and the only collective "person" to point a logical finger at is staff. Pretty soon the recycled players won't be enough to keep pace with the droves that are quitting. 90 becomes 80. 80 becomes 70. Sooner or later, if this server continues down the same path, that "plug" needs to be pulled. Harsh reality.

PS. I am the Lord of EverQuest.

First 50 Monk: Gongshow

Alpha.

[pojab]

it all started going down hill when you zionist fucks took away the greatest name in EQ

[SearyxTZ]

New rules are fine and all, but I'd rather see follow-up on the global channels poll that was started by Amelinda back in February. Or resists.

[fiegi 2.5]

Handpartytowel not allowed

Aborted Fetus allowed

[pojab]

the injustice is palpable

[Lazortag]

Mobs play a factor in just about every single mass pvp battle between raid forces. To risk a character ban every time you try to get your pvp jollies is just ridiculous with the amount of time it takes to level on here.

Seriously, who wants to volunteer to play a monk in mass pvp with the way this server is run?

Does anyone else think it's hilarious that the people who most frequently break the rules (like the poster above) are the loudest whiners about them? It would be like if NAMBLA started complaining because criminal penalties for pedophiles were increased. You want the rules liberalized/enforced less because you want to be able to break them with impunity. Otherwise you wouldn't make such obviously hyperbolic and stupid arguments. I mean really, do you think that the rules (which haven't changed, by the way) currently put people at risk of a ban every time pvp happens? Is this currently an issue on this server? Of course not; this is hyperbolic horseshit. You're only saying this because someone from the staff said something and it's your obligation as an immature child to respond by being as irrational and overreacting as possible. There's nothing new in this rules post. Stop finding reasons to complain when there are better things to complain about.


Aborted Fetus allowed

Last I checked his surname was removed? Did I imagine this?

[mostbitter]

lol using fucking kids to relate to training and you're accusing other people of hyperbole lol

[HarrisonStillPosting]

Analogies are not the same thing as hyperbole.

[mostbitter]

thats true i thought it was funny anyway

[Lulz Sect]

http://i.imgur.com/VlDyC.jpg

[jdklaw]

Some good points from Gongshow, who is the only literate person in Holocaust...

However..

All of these people are playing blue and starwars. This confirms they are bad at PvP and cannot succeed in classic without insta50s and legal training. So... it is what it is...

PS, I AM LORD OF EVERQUEST

How many of the people in this pic still play on the server?

http://i42.tinypic.com/icoluc.jpg

[Smedy]

Handpartytowel not allowed

Aborted Fetus allowed

Aborted Fetus way worse then handpartytowel imo

[mostbitter]

there is a bukakke corpse in mistmoore

[Vile]

new box comin bros

[hagard]

new box comin bros

Wut???

[chuckina22]

new box comin bros

deets

[Malevz]

This server is like watching someone on life support who is suffering but their family is too stubborn to pull the plug, when in reality pulling the plug would just remove the burden from everyone involved.


I don't understand why it's so important to ... holocaust apparently... to close down the server. Can someone explain this?

Is it because holo as a guild has failed and they want evidence of it removed? Is it because someone is trying to start a new box and want the players to move? Personally the only reason I decided to try an Emu is because p1999 is stable and I won't find the server gone 2 weeks down the road, and I have to assume other people feel the same about leveling up/spending their time.

I enjoy playing on a pvp server, sure I'd like to see a few more players but how much does holo crying chase away new people?

Serious question, why is it so important for holo to see the server gone?!

[Rydar]

Holo wants the box deleted because they have been grief OFF the box. They lost at PvE and now at PvP.

Deathspiral of holo doing down the drain, crying out for a "redo" box.

Many people here came here because they knew p99 was legit. No one is going to be on vile (or anyone elses) box but holocaust lol.

tl'dr they want "burn it down" cause they got GRIEFED OFF THE SERVER.

[Rydar]

p.s. the lifesupport system thing is accurante when applied to holo. they are on the deathbed with nihilum teabagging their face while FFers stomps on their crotch.

holo leadership: plz pull the plug!

[Winni]

Holo wants the box deleted because they have been grief OFF the box. They lost at PvE and now at PvP.

Deathspiral of holo doing down the drain, crying out for a "redo" box.

Many people here came here because they knew p99 was legit. No one is going to be on vile (or anyone elses) box but holocaust lol.

tl'dr they want "burn it down" cause they got GRIEFED OFF THE SERVER.

I'm not in nor do I know anyone in Holocaust.

400 people thought the exp was too slow and the grind was not fun. Even though I didn't mind it 400 people can't be wrong.

I think red99 was a success though in introducing new people to the EQemu pvp scene, I bet the next "VZTZ" will have more peeps then ever.

I never played there before but I sure as hell would give it a try after playing this cocktease server.

[samimnot]

I'm not in nor do I know anyone in Holocaust.

400 people thought the exp was too slow and the grind was not fun. Even though I didn't mind it 400 people can't be wrong.

I think red99 was a success though in introducing new people to the EQemu pvp scene, I bet the next "VZTZ" will have more peeps then ever.

I never played there before but I sure as hell would give it a try after playing this cocktease server.


winnie new pal

[FoxxHound]

derp?

[Nizzarr]

going on ban #12 darwoth? unhappy about LoZ population?

not sure why you dont come join the fun, plenty of bad players on this server for you to kill!

ps: cant gate pot out of t-staff procs.

[Arillious]

going on ban #12 darwoth? unhappy about LoZ population?

not sure why you dont come join the fun, plenty of bad players on this server for you to kill!

ps: cant gate pot out of t-staff procs.

You got trolled, that isnt the real darwoth.

[Vile]

You got trolled, that isnt the real darwoth.

...and Santa Claus isn't real.

[Nirgon]

Probs Darwoth, could go on LoZ and ask. Don't care.