Please increase exp rate

[Octavionn]

Server is TOO slow with TOO small a population. Playing seems like a chore. There's almost no one to group with. Increase the exp rate so players whom are forced to play alone due to being low level can more quickly join the real fun at the higher levels.

I've played up to level 13 and just don't have the patience to solo my way to the upper levels anymore... I haven't logged onto the server in 2 1/2 weeks. And probably wont until things speed up.

Thanks.

[Mornin3.0]

IT IS A CHORE

[gloinz]

prty sure 400 players share ur mentality brosky guess classic eq is to hard for us

[Octavionn]

IT IS A CHORE

Then I guess the server is just going to continue to decline. I being a new player to the server didn't like both how slow it is as well as there being NO ONE to group with at low levels. The server as it is now is very anti-newplayer.

Anyways, have fun if playing ALONE for weeks at low levels, spending HOURS and HOURS doing repetitive things with no one to interact or play with is your idea of fun. I know its not fun for me.

[Octavionn]

prty sure 400 players share ur mentality brosky guess classic eq is to hard for us

There was a clear difference from classic EQ compared to the current server. Classic EQ had THOUSANDS of players spread across all levels. There were always people to interact with, play with, pass the time with. This server does not. Its a server where if you're new, you play alone for weeks... if you last that long. I know I'm not.

[Nirgon]

Is he going to get banned or suspended for posting this? Because I'm withholding comment until I know.

[Octavionn]

Is he going to get banned or suspended for posting this? Because I'm withholding comment until I know.

Eh. Doesn't really matter to me. Afterall I stopped playing 2 1/2 weeks ago. I was just throwing out a suggestion that might help new players to the server. Have fun ya'll.

[Harrison]

Server already has increased experience rates.

Stop crying.

[Mornin3.0]

^^^^ everything your saying Oactavionn is correct.^^ but... this is not classic EQ. As much as the GMs want to believe they can recreate classic EQ... they cannot, atleast a pvp server. There is simply not enough population and never will be unless the XP is atleast 10x and features such as yellow text and global OOC(for a low pop) are added. Let me save you the suspense... Global OOC might be added... but the xp bonus and YT... not happening... I honestly dont know how i survived to 50 with a 200 prime time pop.. need an irl i guess.

[Mornin3.0]

Server already has increased experience rates.

Stop crying.

Wish you actually played this server..

[Tippett]

I honestly dont know how i survived to 50 with a 200 prime time pop.. need an irl i guess.

Cuz ur a DRU which is easiest class in the game to level/play

[Octavionn]

^^^^ everything your saying Oactavionn is correct.^^ but... this is not classic EQ. As much as the GMs want to believe they can recreate classic EQ... they cannot, atleast a pvp server. There is simply not enough population and never will be unless the XP is atleast 10x and features such as yellow text and global OOC(for a low pop) are added. Let me save you the suspense... Global OOC might be added... but the xp bonus and YT... not happening... I honestly dont know how i survived to 50 with a 200 prime time pop.. need an irl i guess.

Global OOC would be helpful, that that only really serves the current populous. It still wouldn't help new players at all with no one to group with.

[Octavionn]

Server already has increased experience rates.

Stop crying.

I'm just going to ignore you since you're not an adult. ;)

[Mornin3.0]

Cuz ur a DRU which is easiest class in the game to level/play

Yea... shoulda tried my hand at a melee and I woulda rage quit this shit 3 months ago.

[Nirgon]

^ Oh there's a rule broken. You can't provoke Harrison by saying you're ignoring him.

[Mornin3.0]

^ Oh there's a rule broken. You can't provoke Harrison by saying you're ignoring him.

Nirgon doing gods work.. Cleaning up forums 1 scumbag at a time

[Octavionn]

Nirgon doing gods work.. Cleaning up forums 1 scumbag at a time

Someone's gotta do it Mornin3.0! lol

[Lazortag]

Red players couldn't handle classic exp, while blue players could. What conclusions can we draw from this?

[Harrison]

Red players couldn't handle classic exp, while blue players could. What conclusions can we draw from this?

I leveled multiple characters to 50.

They're crying about not making one, with increased xp. I draw this conclusion: they're terrible.

[Octavionn]

Red players couldn't handle classic exp, while blue players could. What conclusions can we draw from this?

Red players and Blue players are different types of players. That's what I conclude.

[gloinz]

i conclude blue players read twilight and play with cheerios while red players read the most dangerous game and play with guns

[gloinz]

therefore as red players we shouldnt be forced to read twilight (kill npcs), we should be allowed to read the most dangerous game (kill pcs at high level)

fuck bluebies

[Tradesonred]

I leveled multiple characters to 50.

They're crying about not making one, with increased xp. I draw this conclusion: they're terrible.

Heres my conclusion: For some weird, unguessable reason they decided not to perma ban your ass and youre still here shitting up the threads and trolling.

[Octavionn]

Heres my conclusion: For some weird, unguessable reason they decided not to perma ban your ass and youre still here shitting up the threads and trolling.

Just gotta ignore him. He isn't a real person anyways. lol.

[Harrison]

There are dozens of posts crying about experience.

Stop making new ones when you already have increased experience.

[Tradesonred]

There are dozens of posts crying about experience.

Stop making new ones when you already have increased experience.

http://s3.credoaction.com.s3.amazonaws.com/comics/TMW06-22-05.jpg

[Rydar]

Server is TOO slow with TOO small a population. Playing seems like a chore. There's almost no one to group with. Increase the exp rate so players whom are forced to play alone due to being low level can more quickly join the real fun at the higher levels.

I've played up to level 13 and just don't have the patience to solo my way to the upper levels anymore... I haven't logged onto the server in 2 1/2 weeks. And probably wont until things speed up.

Thanks.

Have you tried the EZserver? It should be on the list of EMU servers on the main site, I'm told the xp there is much faster. It might be what you are looking for, you can get to high level there very fast and join that real fun you mentioned.

[Octavionn]

Hmmm.... The way I see it.... If increasing EXP increases the population of the server by lets say.... 30+ members, but angers 1 current player because he feels like he just wasted all those hours of his life.... Which would you rather have? 30+ New Members with 1 Disgruntled current player? Or that 1 player helping contribute to the death of your server?

[gloinz]

Have you tried the EZserver? It should be on the list of EMU servers on the main site, I'm told the xp there is much faster. It might be what you are looking for, you can get to high level there very fast and join that real fun you mentioned.

bluebie

[gloinz]

There are dozens of posts crying about experience.

Stop making new ones when you already have increased experience.

go read twilight while i read the most dangerous game you bluebie scum

[Harrison]

Experience is already increased.

What part of this do you not understand? I know reading is hard and all...

[Octavionn]

I'm still ignoring Harrison because he isn't an adult. lol.

[Rydar]

bluebie


did you ever get a ghoulbane? lol eq too hard.

[Awwalike]

I hear ez server xp is fast for n00bs

[hagard]

Red players aren't like blue players, we don't enjoy soul consuming grinds. We would rather play casualy and spend the rest of our time fucking models doing blow and driving luxury vehicles, something harrysun has no clue about

[Harrison]

^excuses for coming to a Classic EQ pvp server and crying that it's classic

[Tradesonred]

Experience is already increased.

What part of this do you not understand? I know reading is hard and all...

Let me explain something to you, you giant fucking idiot.

If he comes here and complains that experience is not fast enough, he doesnt give 2 shits about if exp was already increased or not.

You may or may not agree with his point of view, but please refrain from being a giant fucking idiot in the future.

Thanks

[Tradesonred]

Yes im willing to take a warning for calling you a stupid fucking idiot.

[Harrison]

Rage more.

We handled experience rates the way they were. We didn't cry about them.

[Tradesonred]

Im not raging, youre a stupid fucking idiot.

[Rushmore]

my solution would be to maybe look at a possible increase's up to level 50. But NEVER ever increase xp from 50-60!

But if you don't change anything I'm fine with it but would newer players? Just Searyx items imo.....that's the fix!

[Rushmore]

PVP server is all about cock blocking raid mobs and uber gear camps..... not killing 1,010,115 rats

[Basso]

PVP server is all about cock blocking raid mobs and uber gear camps..... not killing 1,010,115 rats

Amen.

[Rushmore]

my solution would be to maybe look at a possible increase's up to level 50. But NEVER ever increase xp from 50-60!

But if you don't change anything I'm fine with it but would newer players? Just Searyx items imo.....that's the fix!

my solution would be to maybe look at a possible increase's up to level 39 but never increase from 39-60! (maybe this would be the best of both worlds)

Also take out any zones that don't allow FFA PVP that have any serious raid mobs or gear. Or just make it FFA period!

/fixed

[Lulz Sect]

Red players aren't like blue players, we don't enjoy soul consuming grinds. We would rather play casualy and spend the rest of our time fucking models doing blow and driving luxury vehicles, something harrysun has no clue about

when i was doing this i still had tiem for red

[hagard]

when i was doing this i still had tiem for red

You sir have skills

[Rushmore]

when i was doing this i still had tiem for red

Red player > Blue Player

& Different

[Smedy]

Another thread derailed by Harrison

[Harrison]

Another thread crying about something you already have.

[Vile]

x10 XP or server dies imo

[Hovis]

Server already has increased experience rates.

Stop crying.

dude seriously stfu - your fucking retarded man... you dont even fucking play and tell everyone to stop complaining

[Hovis]

x10 XP or server dies imo

signed

[Harrison]

Another thread crying about something you already have.

[Kringe]

Another thread crying about something you already have.

Careful Amelinda already warned you about derailing threads.... Wouldnt wanna get that ban.

[dcapotos]

This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list (http://www.project1999.org/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[Harrison]

No one cares what you think.

[Hovis]

convinced getting your post count up gets your dick hard.. confirm/deny?

[Vile]

Atleast I can say I am making pretty fucking good $ posting on these forums while @ work... Harrison I don't think they have wifi in the deli department, so he must be in his trailer w/ no TV complaining about a server he doesn't play on..

[Mafakka]

Barking up the wrong tree bro.

Per my advice, they've ALREADY increased xp on the server and it scales like this:

1-10 : 50% exp bonus
11-20: 40% exp bonus
21-30: 30% exp bonus
31-40: 20% exp bonus
41-50: 10% exp bonus

[Harrison]

Atleast I can say I am making pretty fucking good $ posting on these forums while @ work... Harrison I don't think they have wifi in the deli department, so he must be in his trailer w/ no TV complaining about a server he doesn't play on..

I make more than you and still don't cry about experience when it's already increased.

[Supreme]

Would support 2 boxing before i support XP increase.

[Magin]

hey octavionn why dont you make some freinds? get em too play, jesus quit bitching

[Vile]

I make more than you and still don't cry about experience when it's already increased.

lololololololololol

The average salary for deli/ meat cutter jobs is $25,000. Average deli/ meat cutter salaries can vary greatly due to company, location, industry, experience and benefits.

The average salary for user interface engineer jobs is $76,000. Average user interface engineer salaries can vary greatly due to company, location, industry, experience and benefits.

[Rydar]

You do realize that a true butcher makes way more then 25k right? I'm talking the person that can break down an entire animal carcass into the various cuts, process it right , etc.

[Vile]

You do realize that a true butcher makes way more then 25k right? I'm talking the person that can break down an entire animal carcass into the various cuts, process it right , etc.

I do.. and I do realize that is not what Harrison does. If anything he's working at the local supermarket. I suspect hes actually getting an Obama check and not even working...

[Smedy]

Harrison sure has a lot of time posting on the forums considering his work does not involve a computer

Foodstamps confirmed

[Vile]

Harrison sure has a lot of time posting on the forums considering his work does not involve a computer

Foodstamps confirmed

Here Harry, maybe you can print this out and redeem some canned beans..

http://theblacksphere.net/wp-content/uploads/Food-Coupon-Obama.jpeg

[Harrison]

You do realize that a true butcher makes way more then 25k right? I'm talking the person that can break down an entire animal carcass into the various cuts, process it right , etc.

Shhhhhh you're going to make them cry.

[Envious]

This Harrison clown prolly claiming PTSD from failing out of basic for being fat.

[FoxxHound]

I'd pway.

[Rancid]

This Harrison clown prolly claiming PTSD from failing out of basic for being fat.

Agreed.

[Eldaran]

Join Date: Mar 2012 - already trying to fit in with the "cool kids" and bash Harrison. There are plenty of custom servers out there. Why come to a classic emulated server and try to make it less classic? Makes no sense...

retarded logic of the year...

"Red players are so much better than blue players. We are hardcore. Please increase experience so we can have a much easier time playing!"

[kazroth]

Join Date: Mar 2012 - already trying to fit in with the "cool kids" and bash Harrison. There are plenty of custom servers out there. Why come to a classic emulated server and try to make it less classic? Makes no sense...

Disgusting... Harrison is usually the only person who makes sense in posts like this.

[Rikimeru]

xp rate is fine as is no more xp increases!

[Tippett]

xp rate is fine as is no more xp increases!

In guild with multiple level 50 druids for constant PLing - check
Played on server for several months including when there was population - check
Most of guild is already of adequate level to do all content - check

Exp increase would help NEW players who don't want to have to level other classes before they can play melees.

They are basically impossible to level without constant PLing at this point due to dismal server pop.

[Harrison]

Join Date: Mar 2012 - already trying to fit in with the "cool kids" and bash Harrison. There are plenty of custom servers out there. Why come to a classic emulated server and try to make it less classic? Makes no sense...

retarded logic of the year...

"Red players are so much better than blue players. We are hardcore. Please increase experience so we can have a much easier time playing!"

[Billbike]

Join Date: Mar 2012 - already trying to fit in with the "cool kids" and bash Harrison. There are plenty of custom servers out there. Why come to a classic emulated server and try to make it less classic? Makes no sense...

retarded logic of the year...

"Red players are so much better than blue players. We are hardcore. Please increase experience so we can have a much easier time playing!"

We came to this server to Pvp, "classic" is only collateral damage.

We bash harrison because he has no business commenting on any matter of OUR server. He does not play here.

Captain obvious would say that red and blue player ARE different because they enjoy DIFFERENT aspects of the game. It's not that the slow exp is difficult, it's just NOT ENJOYED. Real pvp is max level over big things.

[Rikimeru]

In guild with multiple level 50 druids for constant PLing - check
Played on server for several months including when there was population - check
Most of guild is already of adequate level to do all content - check

Exp increase would help NEW players who don't want to have to level other classes before they can play melees.

They are basically impossible to level without constant PLing at this point due to dismal server pop.

i wish i had constant pl's to lvl up, but i have grinded my levels, like most others in my guild.
pop is about teh same now as when i started playing
i have played hybrid melee with xp penalty before the current xp increase(and grinded out over half way to 50 without any kind of xp increase).
LOL at melees being impossible to level without constant pl.
got any more bullshit statements to throw out there?

[Kringe]

i wish i had constant pl's to lvl up, but i have grinded my levels, like most others in my guild.
pop is about teh same now as when i started playing
i have played hybrid melee with xp penalty before the current xp increase(and grinded out over half way to 50 without any kind of xp increase).
LOL at melees being impossible to level without constant pl.
got any more bullshit statements to throw out there?

So, you could level a Rogue or warrior Solo to 50 np without a group or help then right??

Gtfo outta here...

[Leftoverture]

has harrison ever played red?

Also I've mostly soloed my monk to 40, 20 levels before the exp bonus and 20 after. I have 14 days /played. You can't expect people to invest this kinda time on a server with such thin pop.

[Tradesonred]

We bash harrison because he has no business commenting on any matter of OUR server. He does not play here.


I dont bash him for this, because honestly, nobody can know if he plays or not.

I do bash him though, for being the most annoying troll ever and a

one-man-keep-the-population-down-cuz-of-the-forums fuckwit.

The op said he thought xp grind was harsh, considering the lower pop of the server, this isnt something that is completely invalid.

Harrison then busts out his usual "If you dont think like me, youre stupid" routine.

[Harrison]

Lol waaaaah experience is too slow even though it's faster than THOUSANDS of other players have already played under

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[Tradesonred]

Lol waaaaah experience is too slow even though it's faster than THOUSANDS of other players have already played under

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Except there is not 25+ players in each zone like in classic, so you are comparing oranges to apples. Also EQ is not new to alot of people, so redoing the same grind is not something alot of people would enjoy. They might if there was more grouping opportunities.

Im starting to think you are being left here because Rogean hates the guts of 80% of the pop and you are our punishment for being such a shitty ass community.

Wanna run your server to the ground? Here ill help ya, heres harrison.

[Billbike]

It's simple. Blue players enjoy grinding slow exp and roleplay.

Red players enjoy competition over raid content and guild vs guild conflict.

It's not a big suprize that the exact same server won't make both populations happy.

There must be customization, evolution.

[Dubee]

I am lvl 12 doing big things in Crushbone, come at me. U can even try to jump me while im soloing Orcs na'mean? Ain no thang to a baws hawg.

Having fun like a mofo btw

[Rikimeru]

So, you could level a Rogue or warrior Solo to 50 np without a group or help then right??

Gtfo outta here...



go find a group instead of sittin around in one zone waitin for an xp group to magically appear for you maybe? there are xp groups you just have to go find them. is it a pain in the ass? yes. but this is everquest, it wasnt made to be easy.

[jdklaw]

go find a group instead of sittin around in one zone waitin for an xp group to magically appear for you maybe? there are xp groups you just have to go find them. is it a pain in the ass? yes. but this is everquest, it wasnt made to be easy.

confirmed.

[Kringe]

go find a group instead of sittin around in one zone waitin for an xp group to magically appear for you maybe? there are xp groups you just have to go find them. is it a pain in the ass? yes. but this is everquest, it wasnt made to be easy.

See unlike you, I played when it was released in 99 and was one of the first to 50 back then on Rigamortiz (look it up).. One key element between then and now... OOC..... Finding groups was much easier... Who the fuck wants to run from zone to zone (especially a melee with no sow/jboots) and look for groups... Or constantly spam who all 1-10 who all 10-15 etc... in hopes to find 2-3 people who could be clear across the world leveling...

It simply doesnt add up... This isnt Classic EQ ( this is a Custom Server) with 1/1000 of the population in which these measures were put in for.

Move along, next retarded rebuttal....

[lethdar]

Red players couldn't handle classic exp, while blue players could. What conclusions can we draw from this?

Blue players had global ooc until pop was around 400-500> peak, red didn't?

[Tippett]

i wish i had constant pl's to lvl up, but i have grinded my levels, like most others in my guild.
pop is about teh same now as when i started playing
i have played hybrid melee with xp penalty before the current xp increase(and grinded out over half way to 50 without any kind of xp increase).
LOL at melees being impossible to level without constant pl.
got any more bullshit statements to throw out there?

Nah, I think you have all the bullshit adequately covered.

[Tippett]

go find a group instead of sittin around in one zone waitin for an xp group to magically appear for you maybe? there are xp groups you just have to go find them. is it a pain in the ass? yes. but this is everquest, it wasnt made to be easy.

All that druid PLing from Abysal/Friedchicken must have gone to your head.

There is no fucking groups anywhere 30+

Not in MM, not in Unrest, not in HHK, fucking no where.

All that are left are melees who have been 30-35 for months or solo classes that skyrocket to 50 with exp scaling that don't like sharing exp.

[Rikimeru]

See unlike you, I played when it was released in 99 and was one of the first to 50 back then on Rigamortiz (look it up).. One key element between then and now... OOC..... Finding groups was much easier... Who the fuck wants to run from zone to zone (especially a melee with no sow/jboots) and look for groups... Or constantly spam who all 1-10 who all 10-15 etc... in hopes to find 2-3 people who could be clear across the world leveling...

It simply doesnt add up... This isnt Classic EQ ( this is a Custom Server) with 1/1000 of the population in which these measures were put in for.

Move along, next retarded rebuttal....

if you dont like it you are playin the wrong game. i couldnt care less who you played in 1999 because it doesnt matter. i hate to break it to you but there already is an increased xp rate. go play ez server, sounds like that is what your lookin for.

[Harrison]

if you dont like it you are playin the wrong game. i couldnt care less who you played in 1999 because it doesnt matter. i hate to break it to you but there already is an increased xp rate. go play ez server, sounds like that is what your lookin for.

[gloinz]

if you dont like it you are playin the wrong game. i couldnt care less who you played in 1999 because it doesnt matter. i hate to break it to you but there already is an increased xp rate. go play ez server, sounds like that is what your lookin for.

theres ur retarded rebuttal kringe

[Rikimeru]

All that druid PLing from Abysal/Friedchicken must have gone to your head.

There is no fucking groups anywhere 30+

Not in MM, not in Unrest, not in HHK, fucking no where.

All that are left are melees who have been 30-35 for months or solo classes that skyrocket to 50 with exp scaling that don't like sharing exp.

haha yep i got a ton of pl from abysal/fried. thats why im level 50 right? try again. there are more than 3 zones for lvl 30's to exp in try looking harder.

[Rydar]

if you dont like it you are playin the wrong game. i couldnt care less who you played in 1999 because it doesnt matter. i hate to break it to you but there already is an increased xp rate. go play ez server, sounds like that is what your lookin for.

[heartbrand]

riki is terrible just ignore him

[jdklaw]

Blue players had global ooc until pop was around 400-500> peak, red didn't?

Blue doesnt have special ed kids in leather helmets foaming at the mouth all over forums making GMS afraid of having to clean up OOC.

I do want global ooc because I think it will help grow the box, but really how can you expect to get worldwide chat when forums are full of racial slurs, rl attacks, and other bullshit.

More bees with honey amirite?

[Zallar]

All that druid PLing from Abysal/Friedchicken must have gone to your head.

There is no fucking groups anywhere 30+

Not in MM, not in Unrest, not in HHK, fucking no where.

All that are left are melees who have been 30-35 for months or solo classes that skyrocket to 50 with exp scaling that don't like sharing exp.

Give a shout out to <Brotherhood> if you're looking for groups in that range. I'm a necro, I could solo but I group every day with other guildmates in that range. We've always got folks to group with in the 30-50 range.

[kazroth]

constantly spam who all 1-10 who all 10-15 etc... in hopes to find 2-3 people who could be clear across the world leveling...

So it's a pain in the ass to whisper 2-3 people if they want to group? Mate, you should check out EZ EQ, I hear it's nice this time of year. You can box there. Enjoy.

[Octavionn]

It's simple. Blue players enjoy grinding slow exp and roleplay.

Red players enjoy competition over raid content and guild vs guild conflict.

It's not a big suprize that the exact same server won't make both populations happy.

There must be customization, evolution.

I do believe you hit the bull's eye. That is EXACTLY the differences between servers and the players who play on them. The servers must be customized for the players base who play. Does increasing the rate of exp really effect the "classic" nature of the server? I think not. Its not like you're giving warriors teleport abilities and druids who can summon mage pets. I'd love to continue to play on the server but right now, it doesn't bring back ANY excitements I had back in 1999 playing on Tallon Zek. I played for the pvp and cock blocking players, not to solo my way to higher levels for weeks just to finally start doing what I enjoyed.

[Vile]

It's simple. Blue players enjoy grinding slow exp and roleplay.

Red players enjoy competition over raid content and guild vs guild conflict.

It's not a big suprize that the exact same server won't make both populations happy.

There must be customization, evolution.

ding
ding
ding
ding
ding
ding

[Kringe]

So it's a pain in the ass to whisper 2-3 people if they want to group? Mate, you should check out EZ EQ, I hear it's nice this time of year. You can box there. Enjoy.

CSB but ive been 50 for months... before the exp increase was added
This is moreso along trying to assist new players... You know, the whole "Server growth concept".... Should you learn about it...


Move along Mr. No one.

[HarrisonStillPosting]

^Reported for flaming in server chat

[Kringe]

if you dont like it you are playin the wrong game. i couldnt care less who you played in 1999 because it doesnt matter. i hate to break it to you but there already is an increased xp rate. go play ez server, sounds like that is what your lookin for.


Awesome you keep forgetting the part where A) I do have a 50 and have been 50 for months (before the exp growth) B) The whole entice new players, promote "Server Growth" concept seems to slip by you.... Hence why you are well.... Just bad... I'll leave it at that.

^Reported for flaming in server chat

Reported for having a banned account and making more to cause staff problems.

[kazroth]

Move along Mr. No one.

And just what makes you Mr. Someone?

[Barladore]

How is it that the staff or anyone opposed to a real exp increase cannot see that there are lots of ex-players waiting in the rafters? People are so worried about keeping their classic ghost town server that they neglect the idea's that will bring back a healthy player base to pvp with. The staff can either run a populated pvp server that the majority will play or a shitty classic server with no one on it to pvp. Evolve, or just close the server so that the few holding on to whats left can be put out of their misery.

1st order of business, increase exp x3? x5? hell even x10
2nd order of business test run ooc and yt


I'd say it was time that the staff woke up, but it seems to me that should have taken place months ago.

[Octavionn]

Like I've commented before... Does increasing the exp rate really impact the "classic" part of the game for this server? I think not. All it does is allow new players a faster way to join in and do what they actually find fun doing, which is pvp. I don't have the patience nor desire to waste probably hundreds of hours just to hit max level.

[Tradesonred]

To me the problem isnt the xp rate, its the low pop that makes the leveling boring. And i think we got to this low pop by a combination of factors, main one being xp loss in pvp.

If you werent so alone all the time and getting ganked by twinks when you do see people (i havent played in 2 weeks but i would bet that is the experience people starting on the server get) and instead would be grouping, pvping alot because it doesnt set you back in the pve grind, you wouldnt be thinking that much about how long it takes to get to 50 because youre doing something that is fun while getting there. Youd still die alot, but it wouldnt set you back in the PVE grind, and this is especially important if you have no prior EQ experience as you need to play the game to learn the game. If your not engaging people because they got gear + experience at the game and 99% of the time you eat xp death, you will either stop trying to pvp or just stop playing on the server.

If you xp boost without people rezzing low health no mana, then wed have a real bind rush problem. Best solution to me would be to get rid of xp pvp loss in pvp, put low health no mana on death and slowly rebuild the population this way, as the action you will get at lower levels will keep things interesting.

This should have been done alot earlier, before you had lots of twinks running around, before people left server, but im sure it cant hurt to patch it anyway.

[purest]

has harrison ever played red?

Also I've mostly soloed my monk to 40, 20 levels before the exp bonus and 20 after. I have 14 days /played. You can't expect people to invest this kinda time on a server with such thin pop.

Nope. He has never logged in Red99 once, though he did play for a whole two days beta, during which I was in his guild on Beta (Grindcore). He got a Wood Elf Druid to what? Level 8? While repeatedly got corpse camped by a Gnome Wizard named Cozmonaut. He cried about it a lot in guildchat.

[chosen one]

Not classic. I have a 50 in 2 of the 3 top guilds in red99 and ill be damned if someone gets a welfare check for being bad!

[Dubee]

PvP exp loss has nothing to do with anything tbh

[Truth]

Red players couldn't handle classic exp, while blue players could. What conclusions can we draw from this?

conclusion: bluebies gonna blue :rolleyes:

[Tradesonred]

PvP exp loss has nothing to do with anything tbh

Thats not an argument, thats a conclusion

[goaly]

cant hurt to increase exp rate, could attract more players, and it would negate some of the grief from dying pvp or pve. I could see it help the population maybe

[Dubee]

pvp exp loss is so small its not a factor unless u /durrr afk and come back 50 kills later...

But thats a different problem, not a pvp exp loss problem.

[Haul]

There was a clear difference from classic EQ compared to the current server. Classic EQ had THOUSANDS of players spread across all levels. There were always people to interact with, play with, pass the time with. This server does not. Its a server where if you're new, you play alone for weeks... if you last that long. I know I'm not.

Ya true classic EQ is dead unfortunately. Cherish the memories and look forward to Diablo 3.

[Tradesonred]

pvp exp loss is so small its not a factor unless u /durrr afk and come back 50 kills later...

But thats a different problem, not a pvp exp loss problem.

I have a really hard time understanding why people dont link pvp xp death with the horrible grind.

If people already have a hard time leveling on a low pop server, why let twinks run around to make people eat xp death? If the horrible solo grind is bad enough as it is, why make it worse? If you say that new players have a chance against decked out twinks, gtfo of here. They might win once in a while, but wont happen often.

I think theres 2 camps that are pushing for xp loss in pvp:

The "I want to hold pve spots camp easily through sheer numbers" camp

The "i want to delevel people outta the server lulz" camp

If there was only a timer (low health no mana on death) on xp death instead of xp loss, i guarantee you that Nihilum would not hold Fear all nite like they do.

I am currently in Nihilum, and i would want people come and challenge raid content. But they dont. Because of xp loss. Thats the ONLY reason Nihilum is not getting challenged in raid content.

Without xp loss, I can easily see people fighting all nite in fear, with 3-4 guilds staying there dukin it out for hours. You know, like on a pvp server.

INB4 the lulzdeleveluoutofserver xplossinsignificant people call me a bluebie and then cue crying about zerging because if they try anything more than once theyll get their asses deleveled to 49.

[Dubee]

I have a really hard time understanding why people dont link pvp xp death with the horrible grind.

If people already have a hard time leveling on a low pop server, why let twinks run around to make people eat xp death? If the horrible solo grind is bad enough as it is, why make it worse? If you say that new players have a chance against decked out twinks, gtfo of here. They might win once in a while, but wont happen often.

I think theres 2 camps that are pushing for xp loss in pvp:

The "I want to hold pve spots camp easily through sheer numbers" camp

The "i want to delevel people outta the server lulz" camp

If there was only a timer (low health no mana on death) on xp death instead of xp loss, i guarantee you that Nihilum would not hold Fear all nite like they do.

I am currently in Nihilum, and i would want people come and challenge raid content. But they dont. Because of xp loss. Thats the ONLY reason Nihilum is not getting challenged in raid content.

Without xp loss, I can easily see people fighting all nite in fear, with 3-4 guilds staying there dukin it out for hours. You know, like on a pvp server.

INB4 the lulzdeleveluoutofserver xplossinsignificant people call me a bluebie and then cue crying about zerging because if they try anything more than once theyll get their asses deleveled to 49.

One second to enjoy the Lol...

OK Ecoli...

Do you know how much exp you lose with exp death? Do you know how long/many mobs it takes to make up for that exp loss? How do you expect someone to delevel people off the server exactly? The only way thats possible is if someone afk's at their bind spot.

Honestly, as a melee class, the only thing that I take into consideration when getting near death is, "o snap im gonna have to run back here if I die!" ...thats only if i'm far away from my bind and can't get to a zoneline, which means melee's shouldnt be too far away from a zoneline btw. Thats fun to me and is why I am on a PvP server.

..Who cares about the 2 blue ticks...

[lethdar]

words

It takes longer to run back to a corpse than grind out the next to no xp you lose in a pvp death. Pretty sure you're unable to make any reasonable argument anyway as the last time I saw you try and string together a series of thoughts it failed terribly and the only thing you were able to do was attempt to make shit up to justify your beliefs.

But do go on, tell us why pvp isn't working while you sit behind double the numbers of every other guild on the server.

[Dubee]

It takes longer to run back to a corpse than grind out the next to no xp you lose in a pvp death. Pretty sure you're unable to make any reasonable argument anyway as the last time I saw you try and string together a series of thoughts it failed terribly and the only thing you were able to do was attempt to make shit up to justify your beliefs.

But do go on, tell us why pvp isn't working while you sit behind double the numbers of every other guild on the server.

Lol quote: Words...

You started strong, but then drifted into a sea of tears.

[Lazortag]

I've seen the worst of exp loss. I always eat exp deaths right after I level, so I get de-leveled and it's annoying as hell. But I still think exp loss is negligible, because I'm realistic. It takes less than 5 minutes to gain back the exp from one death. This isn't to say I support exp loss (I don't), but it's really not a big deal.

[Dullah]

Rofl.

Someone said Nihilum sits in fear untouched because people are scared to lose pvp xp? Thats the most heinous thing I've heard on these forums (even worse than Nihilum's daily exaggerated numbers). Pvp exp loss is literally 1-2 dark blue kills or less than 5 minutes of group xp.

Also, have to laugh about people crying "bluebie" when it comes to supporting classic XP. Its people who support classic EQ that want it to be classic, you know, the people who love the entire game, as opposed to that group that seems to hate every aspect of Everquest except pvp ("red players"), and therefore cries daily to have it warped into something that will benefit them and give them an advantage.

NEWS FLASH, you bads aren't real red classic EQ players, because thats not what PVP was about on live unless you were in some laughable newbie gank squad. As a person that hasn't played a "bluebie server" since the 90s, I can still enjoy a game without trying to destroy it in favor of promoting one feature in said game. Maybe its time to admit you're beat and this isn't the game for you.

[lethdar]

The saddest part about being in a zerg is when you don't know who your members are in-game or on the forums.

The poster you were referring to is Ecoli <Nihilum>, L2Forum

(Rest of your post is just garble. Most players you're referring to were 50 long before you were, didn't it take you until February?... next)

lol

[Tradesonred]

Rofl.

Someone said Nihilum sits in fear untouched because people are scared to lose pvp xp? Thats the most heinous thing I've heard on these forums (even worse than Nihilum's daily exaggerated numbers). Pvp exp loss is literally 1-2 dark blue kills or less than 5 minutes of group xp.

I said this, and i am in Nihilum. I am Ecoli.

You can say whatever you want about Holo and FF, but one thing you cant say, is that they dont like to pvp. So why else arent they attempting to cock block Nihilum in Fear when theres 28 of us in there? Because they will lose xp, almost guaranteed. And through sheer numerical advantage. Im not saying Nihi is good or bad at pvp, but its just a fact that most of the times, its 3v1+ vs the force thats sitting outside waiting for stragglers to kill.

Why are they staying outside so they can attempt better balanced/numeric force pvp if not because of the pvp loss?

Clue me in

[Tradesonred]

Without pvp xp loss it would be like fucking Battle Royale in there every night, instead of same ole same ole nobody attempting to challenge raid content.

Amelinda wouldnt even need to kick noobs in the nuts and there would be a self-sustaining pvp event each night.

(Dont hurt me Amelinda, it was a joke :)

[Tradesonred]

I appreciate that you're making fun of your own guild, but

what is this I don't even

Yes i bet you dont even, logical thinking is in short supply around these parts

[jdklaw]

its like watching someone talk to himself and confuse himself

[Dullah]

Lol, I am perfectly aware of who it was.

I said someone because i wasn't trying to mock him, but rather what he said. Not interested in making a big deal about it, but its dumb and I wanted to point it out.

More important part of the post is what I said after...

[Tippett]

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyn719MRMt1qemz6qo1_500.gif

[aborted]

Agreed, xp needs to be increased. Atleast to the 30's, Give people an easy way to 35 and they will finish off the last 15 levels.

[Tradesonred]

Lol, I am perfectly aware of who it was.

I said someone because i wasn't trying to mock him, but rather what he said. Not interested in making a big deal about it, but its dumb and I wanted to point it out.

More important part of the post is what I said after...

"Its dumb" is not an argument, why arent they zoning in to kill us when we are in fear if not because of pvp xp loss?

[batkiller]

The exp rate is very slow, but my only issue with this server so far is that it seems to be mostly US players. I play on Euro times during the day and everywhere is dead. I do /who unrest all, and /who crushbone all, etc.. and it's always 0 players or maybe 1 or 2. The other day I played for 8 hours straight, and my LFG tool was on the whole time and it was like a ghost town all the way. About 10 minutes before it was time for me to log out, I got a tell from someone making an upper guk group :( I started doing /who to see the zones at that time, and the population was booming! I just wish I could play during those hours.

[Dullah]

"Its dumb" is not an argument, why arent they zoning in to kill us when we are in fear if not because of pvp xp loss?

I could easily think of 10 off the top of my head in 10 seconds, but not the least of which is ego and pride. Getting spanked even numbers hurts the self proclaimed remnants of the best pvpers evar.

Also, the fact that theres a chance of being corpse camped in fear also plays a huge roll. If theres a chance of losing your body when you want to play EQ, you are likely to just go do something else.

Shall I go on or are you seriously thinking the barely noticeable xp death is the source?

[mostbitter]

most people on a pvp server will remain anonymous which makes /who all useless

[Octavionn]

Well... I guess my suggestion went unheard. Enjoy your server guys & gals... what few of you there are...

[Dullah]

We will.

Of course, they could change exp and add all the other nonclassic bs that the vocal minority wants, and then half the server would leave and even less people could sit around with a 50 of every class and experience a fleeting sense of accomplishment for leveling and gearing a personal army.

[bilbobaggins]

and then half the server would leave

lmao increasing exp rate would cause half of the server to quit? that's mental bro.

[Dullah]

Yes. I would leave, and so would many of the people I play with and am guilded with. Then many others would follow when they realize how trivial what they've worked months for has become as well as a long list of other negative ramifications for making Everquest into something it was never meant to be - easy.

[jdklaw]

Yes. I would leave, and so would many of the people I play with and am guilded with. Then many others would follow when they realize how trivial what they've worked months for has become as well as a long list of other negative ramifications for making Everquest into something it was never meant to be - easy.

[heartbrand]

THERE ARE ABOUT EIGHTY PEOPLE MAX ON THIS SERVER UNLESS A BOSS IS UP. STOP ACTING LIKE INCREASING THE HORRIBLE XP RATE WHICH IS THE MAIN DETERRENT TO NEW PLAYERS (COMBINED WITH NO ONE TO GROUP WITH AND NO ONE TO TALK TO BECAUSE NO OOC) WILL SOMEHOW CAUSE A NET LOSS IN THE ALREADY TERRIBLE SERVER POP.

[mostbitter]

Explain to me what is difficult about repetition. Convey to me how pressing a few buttons a hundred thousand times is challenging. The only thing I find challenging about it is making time to do it.

[kazroth]

I don't understand... do you just want a pvp server, or a p99 pvp server?

There have got to be other pvp servers available that are already on ez mode? I haven't checked, so I might be wrong on this one.

[mostbitter]

I imagine the majority of people who wanted to spend 150 hours leveling to 50 did it already on blue. If the server had the population to provide the experience people expect from a PvP server I imagine far fewer people would complain about the exp because they would be able to enjoy interacting with other players. However there is an abysmally low population and a lot of people understand that putting more players in fewer zones will increase interaction with others.

A lot of people argue about it here as if it where a black or white issue. EXP has been increased so it seems apparent to me that at some point the dev team realized there was some merit to the argument. Personally as someone who commits 10-15 hours a week it's demoralizing that I'm not even in my 30s at this point. It would be nice to be able to play here without having to give up other things, to be able to say this is my hobby instead of my part time job.

[kazroth]

Okay, as devil's advocate, explain to me what is wrong with being in your 30s? Does PvP in EQ only get fun at 50?

[Nirgon]

Might have something to do with PvP requiring other people to fight. Not sure yet, I'll get back to you but probably not.

[mostbitter]

Right now out of 64 people I am the only person in my zone. If 64 people online had all been 40+ I'm pretty sure I'd at least be able to go find one. I had to CR when I logged in today, I traveled through 3 zones to get where I am and no one is in any of them. It isn't about being 50, it's about playing with other people.

[heartbrand]

Might have something to do with PvP requiring other people to fight. Not sure yet, I'll get back to you but probably not.

[heartbrand]

Tho the issue is Nirgon, nihilum would LOVE this server if it was just them logging in and killing bosses every night with no one else on it, so they don't care if the server pop is 200, 150, 100, or 30, as long as they can get more pixels that don't matter in PVE, with the exception of mistwalker and main tank loot, not to mention you kill almost everything with charm pets.

[bilbobaggins]

Yes. I would leave, and so would many of the people I play with and am guilded with. Then many others would follow when they realize how trivial what they've worked months for has become as well as a long list of other negative ramifications for making Everquest into something it was never meant to be - easy.

nobody is asking to be able to ding 50 in a day. obviously you are making exaggerations to try to prove your point... regardless, for some reason here i am giving you the benefit of the doubt and explaining that obvious fact to you. wait, did i just get trolled?

feel free to look up the definition of trivial if needed. increasing exp rate will not make eq trivial in any way.


Explain to me what is difficult about repetition. Convey to me how pressing a few buttons a hundred thousand times is challenging. The only thing I find challenging about it is making time to do it.

bingo. leveling in eq isn't 'hard'... its 'tedious.' nobody is asking for ez eq.


Okay, as devil's advocate, explain to me what is wrong with being in your 30s? Does PvP in EQ only get fun at 50?

simply that there is no server population in the 30s. pvp is at 40+. that's why we all want to be 40+

[Dullah]

bingo. leveling in eq isn't 'hard'... its 'tedious.' nobody is asking for ez eq.

Thats exactly what you and 10 other people that cry daily on the forums for the last 6 months want.

Exp has already been increased quite liberally and it did next to nothing for the server population, just like other pvp server failed to have our numbers with super fast experience. Its been tried, it doesn't work, so stfu already.


Tho the issue is Nirgon, nihilum would LOVE this server if it was just them logging in and killing bosses every night with no one else on it, so they don't care if the server pop is 200, 150, 100, or 30, as long as they can get more pixels that don't matter in PVE, with the exception of mistwalker and main tank loot, not to mention you kill almost everything with charm pets.
So says the guy thats been getting rolled daily on all his character for the last 6 months, who also farmed more lower guk than any other person on the server except Natural.

Not even your own guild believe the rhetoric you spew on the forums.

[heartbrand]

I've seen Destin twice in game maybe?

[kazroth]

simply that there is no server population in the 30s. pvp is at 40+. that's why we all want to be 40+

Okay, so the problem isn't that leveling is slow, it's just that there's no one to level/PvP with.

Let me ask you, how is giving everyone more experience going to help this problem?

Think about curing the problems, not the symptoms.

[Dullah]

Classic resists patch = better pvp
More content >> closer to kunark = more people.

Kunark (and velious) is what people want to play. Theres like 10x as much to do, stuff to fight over, cool dungeons to farm, epics and a lot of really sweet legacy gear off the bat. I don't want to super rush the timeline, but i think when we get closer to kunark, more people will start playing and likely a lot of people will start out new on the server.

I can't see someone invested in another server who has access to kunark+ (like blue and all other emus) coming back to just classic, even if they want classic pvp.

In short:
General server love, fixes and content = moar peeps.

[Billbike]

0. COMMUNICATE WITH SERVER

1. global ooc

2. Tweak resist

3. ADVERTISE BEFORE releasing new content

4. YT. Can be tentative, if enough cry about it, just remove or modify

5. Ban trolls, exploiters

6. Don't be scared to change things.

[Nirgon]

7. Hold your breath

[Rydar]

or 8:

server is fine, those who came here for the servers intended goal are still having fun (i.e. EQ with red added in).

The only people upset are those GRIEFED OFF THE SERVER when their master plan to train/exploit failed them. Try starwars time and leave red99 to the classic EQ pvp fans.

Thank you.

[mostbitter]

Rydar and dullah are like tag team wrestlers except super bad posters

[Hovis]

or 8:

server is fine, those who came here for the servers intended goal are still having fun (i.e. EQ with red added in).

The only people upset are those GRIEFED OFF THE SERVER when their master plan to train/exploit failed them. Try starwars time and leave red99 to the classic EQ pvp fans.

Thank you.

you are an idiot. the end.

[Kringe]

or 8:

server is fine, those who came here for the servers intended goal are still having fun (i.e. EQ with red added in).

The only people upset are those GRIEFED OFF THE SERVER when their master plan to train/exploit failed them. Try starwars time and leave red99 to the classic EQ pvp fans.

Thank you.

CSB when theres 45 people left on the server and 43 of them are guilded with you wheres the "Classic EQ PVP" experience fall into that category?


Griefed off the server is such a cool expression, because thats exactly what you want... Lets GRIEF EVERYONE OFF THE SERVER SO THERES NO ONE TO PLAY WITH!!! Bravo, you should definitely head a major MMO/Marketing company... It would most certainly thrive.

[heartbrand]

Big Kringe why you no on aim dese days

[FoxxHound]

7. Hold your breath

[bilbobaggins]

Thats exactly what you and 10 other people that cry daily on the forums for the last 6 months want.

Exp has already been increased quite liberally and it did next to nothing for the server population, just like other pvp server failed to have our numbers with super fast experience. Its been tried, it doesn't work, so stfu already.



you clearly don't know nearly as much as you think you know.

FYI i'm new to the server. Started here less than 2 months ago. Myself and 5 other friends started because of the initial xp boost.

Now a month and a half into it we are getting bored because we are still only around the mid 30s and because of this, haven't gotten to experience any real pvp. Now some of our 6 are beginning to log in less, eventually its going to be a group of 5, then 4, and so on and so forth... perfect example of how the population of this server goes. groups of friends start up with great intentions and enjoy their initial time here only to realize that the time it takes to grind to 50 doesn't mesh well with having family/work/life in general outside of EQ.

tl;dr people come here for pvp, and when they realize that the prerequisite to pvp is 200 odd hours of tedious griding exp to get to level 50, they lose motivation and stop logging in.

[kazroth]

you clearly don't know nearly as much as you think you know.

enjoy their initial time here only to realize that the time it takes to grind to 50 doesn't mesh well with having family/work/life in general outside of EQ.

I don't understand... this is classic EQ, didn't you know this coming in?

[webrunner5]

I don't understand... this is classic EQ, didn't you know this coming in?

I agree. I think it took me 2 months to get my first toon, a Druid, to level 13 in 1999. And I played a lot.

[Hovis]

CSB when theres 45 people left on the server and 43 of them are guilded with you wheres the "Classic EQ PVP" experience fall into that category?


Griefed off the server is such a cool expression, because thats exactly what you want... Lets GRIEF EVERYONE OFF THE SERVER SO THERES NO ONE TO PLAY WITH!!! Bravo, you should definitely head a major MMO/Marketing company... It would most certainly thrive.

/signed

[Hovis]

I don't understand... this is classic EQ, didn't you know this coming in?

this is NOT classic eq. ask the devs. its mostly classic- but custom in a few ways.

[kazroth]

I agree. I think it took me 2 months to get my first toon, a Druid, to level 13 in 1999. And I played a lot.

Hahha, yeah, after a solid two years of playing and a billion alts, I think my highest character was 28.

I spent more time farming for things than actually leveling, what a blast :D

[kazroth]

this is NOT classic eq. ask the devs. its mostly classic- but custom in a few ways.

Hence the reason why the red server already has bonus exp......

I'm not voicing an opinion on whether red needs faster exp, I'm just pointing to the fact that people are complaining they're losing interest in leveling in classic EQ, when it was their choice to start playing here in the first place. It's illogical and a fallible argument.

[Billbike]

I don't understand... this is classic EQ, didn't you know this coming in?


That IS the problem. Too many understand it and CHOOSE not to play anymore.

Instead of further bumping exp, just make grinding to 50 FUNNER.

See 0 thru 6.

[bilbobaggins]

I don't understand... this is classic EQ, didn't you know this coming in?

do you want to continue playing 'classic eq' with ~100 people or do you want the population to grow?

edit to reword: do you want to continue playing 'classic eq' with a slowly dwindling population that will continue to drop until the only players left are a handful of addicted poopsockers or do you want the population to stay around 100+ with the possibility of increasing?

[bilbobaggins]

That IS the problem. Too many understand it and CHOOSE not to play anymore.



truth.

[Nirgon]

Can you get it through your heads that it takes a time machine to get the population up again?

Lol God, the dumb in here. It was about doing things to preserve the population while I was playing. These things failed. That's it. You need to preserve who is playing now. New people will just trickle in whenever.

Now, answer for me how you plan to keep new people?

Lol @ senseless debate over whether content benefits one side or the other. Talk about community benefit. Shit. It was all about "we won't have a box to play on if we don't do this". Well, you're getting really warm.

[Hovis]

Hence the reason why the red server already has bonus exp......

I'm not voicing an opinion on whether red needs faster exp, I'm just pointing to the fact that people are complaining they're losing interest in leveling in classic EQ, when it was their choice to start playing here in the first place. It's illogical and a fallible argument.

lol.. you're a lost cause.

[kazroth]

lol.. you're a lost cause.

Why, cuz I'm playin' on red right now...?

[FoxxHound]

I'm actually thinking about loggin in for a little bit.

[kazroth]

I'm actually thinking about loggin in for a little bit.

Rollin' around gfay as a 4 druid named Killin - look me up - even if it's to gank me :P

[HarrisonStillPosting]

I don't understand... this is classic EQ, didn't you know this coming in?

[Rydar]

Can you get it through your heads that it takes a time machine to get the population up again?



So holo wants a do over? Sorry, once you lose the game there is no do over. Next time have better orginization, officers, and skills.

^^Griefed off the box^^

[Nirgon]

Yeah I got griefed off the box by the nonexistent population, rule waffling (and inconsistent enforcement) and broken resist set. Let's not forget they finally have sort of a rule set up now that the box is pretty much over, which would have been lacking even by the beginning. I constantly had to ask about rules and usually got the "I'd hafta ask Rogean" response. You got me.

I don't want a do over. I want a box hosted by someone else at this point which is unfortunate.

But like they say, if you want something done right? Do it yourself.

We'll see dawg =). Wait a minute, who am I calling dawg anyway? Who are you?

[FoxxHound]

Rollin' around gfay as a 4 druid named Killin - look me up - even if it's to gank me :P

i ish scurrd

[kazroth]

i ish scurrd

haha, of me? come on, I'm female, i'm cute!