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eastadam55
04-01-2012, 11:30 PM
is it still alive or should i not even bother to level up a char?

Amelinda
04-02-2012, 01:51 AM
server is still alive. the rest of these trolls can fuck off.

ignore their stupidity. it's like 4 vocal and VERY annoying people.

Dullah
04-02-2012, 02:19 AM
I'm sorry these guys are so angry and have it out for the server and its staff so badly. Hope you don't let it get to you Amelinda. I wish everyone shitting up the forum could lose everything in game. Cleaning out the bad here and everything connected on the server would really make it a better place for everyone.

Theres probably 300+ chars on the server 45-50, but only about 100 or so are playing atm. Other than that its a decent amount of 1-40 players, but with the classic era content stagnation, many people are putting the server aside until theres more to do.

Hopefully sol-ro/poh soon, followed by sky and kunark. The multitude of content in kunark should breathe a lot more life into the server.

Zallar
04-02-2012, 02:27 AM
If the trolls are crying and quitting it means that things are going in the right direction.

Zereh
04-02-2012, 02:29 AM
If the trolls are crying and quitting it means that things are going in the right direction.

Dullah
04-02-2012, 02:37 AM
Right.

I just hope action is taken towards removing those who are hurting the server, and the community. Its one thing to take the battle to the game, but another to just rant and rave, rage and cry in game, in tells, in ooc then come here and do it on the forums just to ruin what so many people enjoy - a game.

This group (everyone knows who they are and who they're affiliated with) needs to be purged. Everything their IPs have touched here and in game. They won't be satisfied with leaving the server hurting; they want to see it burnt down, and they must be dealt with if the server has any chance of recuperating.

Don't get the wrong impression new guy, theres still a lot of decent people left that just love Everquest. Its the extremely vocal minority that portray the server in a continually negative light.

Seaweedpimp
04-02-2012, 04:35 AM
Its alive. Good fun.

NotFilthed
04-02-2012, 05:15 AM
20+ pks on a bad nite . still doin work

Smedy
04-02-2012, 05:38 AM
server is still alive. the rest of these trolls can fuck off.

ignore their stupidity. it's like 4 vocal and VERY annoying people.

aka The Wipe Committee

goalie
04-02-2012, 07:49 AM
server is doing better than forums. All forums should be closed except trading hub.

Guttersnipe
04-02-2012, 10:30 AM
server is doing better than forums. All forums should be closed except trading hub.

God I want this so bad.

Rydar
04-02-2012, 10:50 AM
If the trolls are crying and quitting it means that things are going in the right direction.


truth

Malevz
04-02-2012, 12:47 PM
Right.

I just hope action is taken towards removing those who are hurting the server, and the community. Its one thing to take the battle to the game, but another to just rant and rave, rage and cry in game, in tells, in ooc then come here and do it on the forums just to ruin what so many people enjoy - a game.

This group (everyone knows who they are and who they're affiliated with) needs to be purged. Everything their IPs have touched here and in game. They won't be satisfied with leaving the server hurting; they want to see it burnt down, and they must be dealt with if the server has any chance of recuperating.

Don't get the wrong impression new guy, theres still a lot of decent people left that just love Everquest. Its the extremely vocal minority that portray the server in a continually negative light.

^agree

Rallyd
04-02-2012, 01:25 PM
Might seem a bit harsh but everyone around here knows who these trolls are, they don't make it very hard to figure out... ban mac addresses and set up a way to link forum accounts to in game accounts.

This is really the bottom line holocaust has to go, they've been ruining the community that has been so great since the moment they found out they weren't going to win in game. They've already been banned as a guild and disbanded, that should have stood strong.

heartbrand
04-02-2012, 01:48 PM
Might seem a bit harsh but everyone around here knows who these trolls are, they don't make it very hard to figure out... ban mac addresses and set up a way to link forum accounts to in game accounts.

This is really the bottom line holocaust has to go, they've been ruining the community that has been so great since the moment they found out they weren't going to win in game. They've already been banned as a guild and disbanded, that should have stood strong.

Guy is defacto leader of guild that exploited exact same dragon 6x the times as holocaust, should have been banned like holo, should have stood strong. Also, stop equating forums with in game. Cast almost never plays, he by no means represents Holocaust. Cast shitting up the forums is a Cast issue not a holo issue.

Tanx
04-02-2012, 01:59 PM
Might seem a bit harsh but everyone around here knows who these trolls are, they don't make it very hard to figure out... ban mac addresses and set up a way to link forum accounts to in game accounts.

This is really the bottom line holocaust has to go, they've been ruining the community that has been so great since the moment they found out they weren't going to win in game. They've already been banned as a guild and disbanded, that should have stood strong.

I have been helped out by several Holo players since I started here. So far all I see is a buncha pretty nice people, 'cept Illi/Castv33.3

heartbrand
04-02-2012, 02:16 PM
I have been helped out by several Holo players since I started here. So far all I see is a buncha pretty nice people, 'cept Illi/Castv33.3

quoted for truth

kazroth
04-02-2012, 02:24 PM
Cast shitting up the forums is a Cast issue not a holo issue.

If he wears the tag, it's the very definition of a Holo issue... does public presence mean nothing to everyone?

heartbrand
04-02-2012, 02:27 PM
If he wears the tag, it's the very definition of a Holo issue... does public presence mean nothing to everyone?

Guy has been on for a total of maybe 2 hours in game in the last 2 months?

heartbrand
04-02-2012, 02:28 PM
If he wears the tag, it's the very definition of a Holo issue... does public presence mean nothing to everyone?

Natural wore nihilum tag, known RMTer. Fallen / Bruuce / Killjoy / Zyrin, known boxers. does public presence mean nothing to everyone?

...u see what i did there?

kazroth
04-02-2012, 02:31 PM
Natural wore nihilum tag, known RMTer. Fallen / Bruuce / Killjoy / Zyrin, known boxers. does public presence mean nothing to everyone?

...u see what i did there?

You act like I respect Nihi any more than Holo... I can tell you, that's not the case based on the representation I see on the boards. If you guys don't give a shit about your rep from outsiders, then go right ahead and continue to let these people shit on your reps. No big deal...

Marglar
04-02-2012, 02:40 PM
there are several people that get banned or rage quit and they seem to dedicate a massive amount of their personal time to shitting up the forums. it's pretty pathetic. don't let it scare you - the server is alive and a lot of fun.

kazroth
04-02-2012, 02:48 PM
there are several people that get banned or rage quit and they seem to dedicate a massive amount of their personal time to shitting up the forums. it's pretty pathetic. don't let it scare you - the server is alive and a lot of fun.

Agreed!

~ Kazroth, level 11 Ogre Shaman on Red99!

Supreme
04-02-2012, 02:58 PM
Leave it to Heartbrand to derail a good non-R&F thread.

heartbrand
04-02-2012, 02:59 PM
Actually, first "derail", which I responded to, was this:

"Originally Posted by Rallyd View Post
Might seem a bit harsh but everyone around here knows who these trolls are, they don't make it very hard to figure out... ban mac addresses and set up a way to link forum accounts to in game accounts.

This is really the bottom line holocaust has to go, they've been ruining the community that has been so great since the moment they found out they weren't going to win in game. They've already been banned as a guild and disbanded, that should have stood strong."

Supreme
04-02-2012, 03:00 PM
Actually, first "derail", which I responded to, was this:

"Originally Posted by Rallyd View Post
Might seem a bit harsh but everyone around here knows who these trolls are, they don't make it very hard to figure out... ban mac addresses and set up a way to link forum accounts to in game accounts.

This is really the bottom line holocaust has to go, they've been ruining the community that has been so great since the moment they found out they weren't going to win in game. They've already been banned as a guild and disbanded, that should have stood strong."

Would be curious to know who the four trolls are.

I could wager 3/4 have the <Holocaust> tag.

Tanx
04-02-2012, 03:06 PM
One man committing murder is as guilty as three men committing murder.....

Amelinda
04-02-2012, 03:27 PM
Dear OP:

As you can see - we have a very, very, lively community. They don't always agree or even get along but they hold tightly to their convictions which is good.

Don't let them fool you into thinking that Holocaust or Nihilum is more innocent than the other one.

Both of them have had someone banned for RMT, boxing etc. things are fair but we do not maintain a public ban list here so the spin doctors like to cry loudly that the other side has never been punished. They know damn well that isn't the case. but they can't cry gm favoritism if they acknowledge that.

it's a troll to get me to produce the names of people banned for whatever. :)

Dullah
04-02-2012, 03:36 PM
Guy has been on for a total of maybe 2 hours in game in the last 2 months?

You hang off his nuts like his boyfriend. His trolls seem supported by all of you adamantly 99% of the time. Wtf are you talking about.

Rallyd
04-02-2012, 03:47 PM
The difference is Amelinda that we've removed the parties that we suspected of doing such acts (beyond 2 boxing because 90% of anyone has been stupid enough to try it). We don't condone trolling or RMT or shit like that and if you're doing it we find out and remove you. Holocaust condones it by posting in support of those players.

lethdar
04-02-2012, 04:12 PM
Rallyd shows fallen how to exploit IP exemptions to kick from game, something hes done many times before. Fallen gets banned, welcomed back into guild on another char, Rallyd claims to not tolerate exploiters within guild.

????

lethdar
04-02-2012, 05:02 PM
He probably feels pretty guilty about getting fallen to do it in the first place, must hurt losing a 50 days /played char :(

Rallyd
04-02-2012, 05:07 PM
Re-read my post, I said boxing isn't gonna get you banned from our guild, because almost everyone has done it in the past on blue, it just makes you look dumb.

eastadam55
04-02-2012, 05:10 PM
Dear OP:

As you can see - we have a very, very, lively community. They don't always agree or even get along but they hold tightly to their convictions which is good.

Don't let them fool you into thinking that Holocaust or Nihilum is more innocent than the other one.

Both of them have had someone banned for RMT, boxing etc. things are fair but we do not maintain a public ban list here so the spin doctors like to cry loudly that the other side has never been punished. They know damn well that isn't the case. but they can't cry gm favoritism if they acknowledge that.

it's a troll to get me to produce the names of people banned for whatever. :)
yeah most dese *****s here are whack prob from de crack. its np tho

lethdar
04-02-2012, 08:03 PM
Re-read my post, I said boxing isn't gonna get you banned from our guild, because almost everyone has done it in the past on blue, it just makes you look dumb.

Confirmed nihilum gives no fucks about cheating within guild.

Snufz
04-02-2012, 09:36 PM
Re-read my post, I said boxing isn't gonna get you banned from our guild, because almost everyone has done it in the past on blue, it just makes you look dumb.

You mean boxing, the same offense regarded by current GMs as the WORST POSSIBLE THING TO DO for server health and results in a perma ban.

Great way to prove your point.

Silikten
04-02-2012, 09:48 PM
He probably feels pretty guilty about getting fallen to do it in the first place, must hurt losing a 50 days /played char :(

Smallmee can empathize with this

Mornin3.0
04-02-2012, 10:01 PM
Smallmee can empathize with this

keep FRAPS running and your /petition hotkeyed

Dullah
04-02-2012, 10:45 PM
theres a slight difference between a 3 day suspension and a perma ban

do i need to go into further detail and break down the difference or are we ok ?

3 days = smallmee on liquor and hard drugs

permaban = suicide

Tanx
04-03-2012, 08:00 AM
Re-read my post, I said boxing isn't gonna get you banned from our guild, because almost everyone has done it in the past on blue, it just makes you look dumb.

"almost everyone has done it...."

I don't think that the case at all, maybe in DA/TMO/IB/TR.

Lots of guilds and players don't box/seq/mq.

Just sayin...

Tanx
04-03-2012, 08:02 AM
nothing wrong with boxing , should be allowed to box 1 char so people can actually do stuff alone , people that arent stupid druids mages or wizards that is

only people that should be banned on this server are people for RMT

exploiting dragon is a bug , fix it , you cant ban people because the dragon does not work , thats your fault ill exploit that dragon right now and touch myself thinking of the dragon flavor riches

This makes no sense either. Boxing/RMT/MQ are all on par as an unfair advantage. Hey let me pwn noobs with my lvl 20 while I heal myself with my 50 Druid.

/shrug

gnomishfirework
04-03-2012, 08:37 AM
ewveryone will be back for kunark. then again for VP. Then again for epics. then again for velious. then they'll probably just stay cause velious takes forever to gear.

gnomishfirework
04-03-2012, 08:38 AM
"almost everyone has done it...."

I don't think that the case at all, maybe in DA/TMO/IB/TR.

Lots of guilds and players don't box/seq/mq.

Just sayin...

yea, but just because someone does, doesnt make them a bad player. even cheaters are people. you can still be friendly with them. if i found out my friend cheated, id still want to play with him. id just want him to stop cheating.

heartbrand
04-03-2012, 08:52 AM
ewveryone will be back for kunark. then again for VP. Then again for epics. then again for velious. then they'll probably just stay cause velious takes forever to gear.

People said this about fear and pop showed no significant increase.

gnomishfirework
04-03-2012, 09:25 AM
i dont think there will that large an increase. it is a pvp server. much less demand. it wont be getting over 200 except maybe the launch day.

Vile
04-03-2012, 09:27 AM
everyone will be back for increased XP rates. the shit in place now is laughable.

it's kind of funny when there is easily 20+ people that will be able to play if XP was modified.

Hovis
04-03-2012, 10:12 AM
everyone will be back for increased XP rates. the shit in place now is laughable.

it's kind of funny when there is easily 20+ people that will be able to play if XP was modified.

A+++

Rydar
04-03-2012, 10:13 AM
everyone will be back for increased XP rates. the shit in place now is laughable.

it's kind of funny when there is easily 20+ people that will be able to play if XP was modified.

Ok but 40+ people would quit over ez xp.

So, lets not. For the servers sake.

Vile
04-03-2012, 10:16 AM
Ok but 40+ people would quit over ez xp.

So, lets not. For the servers sake.

why would 40 people quit? they already poop-socked it to 50 and have 30+ days played.. i really doubt any of these nerds would give up their pixels and the server would become more competitive.

Hairybuttwhole
04-03-2012, 10:21 AM
why would 40 people quit? they already poop-socked it to 50 and have 30+ days played.. i really doubt any of these nerds would give up their pixels and the server would become more competitive.

/agree ...from experience old players would return to protect pixels

Rydar
04-03-2012, 10:26 AM
why would 40 people quit? they already poop-socked it to 50 and have 30+ days played.. i really doubt any of these nerds would give up their pixels and the server would become more competitive.

because if you turn around and make this "classic server" into wow with SK's , then those people will feel their acomplishment is cheapened and thus quit.

You want to be 50 and uber like them? Put in the same work.

Want ez xp? Go to ez server.

heartbrand
04-03-2012, 10:54 AM
I've leveled two characters to 50, one pre-exp bonus, wasn't "too bad" prolly took about 1.5 month back when there was PVP in all the EXP zones, 200+ pop, and had no gear/coin.

Then I leveled a warrior, post-exp bonus, it was god awful, and this was with constant PL or groupage. The EXP needs to be boosted so fucking badly on this server it's not even funny. There is NO PVP outside of the level 42+ scene. All the zones outside of Unrest are a ghost town beneath 42. People keep talking about the beautiful "journey" but it's just a barren wasteland of empty zones, with no Global OOC or YT so you feel like you're playing SoloQuest until your high enough to be powerleveled with bats in Sol B. That's not a journey it's just a test of endurance, and is detrimental to the server pop on a PVP server. EXP Bonus should have been 100% all the way through, and even that prolly isn't enough.

For all the people talking about omg Kunark will bring everyone back, good luck Melees in Kunark with the EXP rate at 51-60 and the pop as shitty as it is. No one is going to be carrying troll SK's in their groups in Kunark when level 54 takes two weeks to get through as it is. All the druids and casters will quickly poopsock their way to 60 and all the melees will be left behind begging for dat PL. There will continue to be no groups, EXP loss on pvp deaths will be more painful, CR in kunark will be more painful, more casuals will quit. Kunark will be the deathblow to this server if it's kept in it's current state, not it's savior.

bilbobaggins
04-03-2012, 11:42 AM
i agree with vile and heartbrand. raise exp rate, watch population rise due to casuals now able to play and progress.

@Rydar: not only is ez a custom server, but there is no pvp. we play here for a 'like-classic' pvp server. your solution is terrible.

Rancid
04-03-2012, 12:05 PM
raise exp rate, watch population rise due to casuals now able to play and progress.

@Rydar: not only is ez a custom server, but there is no pvp. we play here for a 'like-classic' pvp server. your solution is terrible.

heartbrand
04-03-2012, 12:26 PM
People act as if the server is already dumbed down with exp fairies tossing out free levels. The bonus did n-o-t-h-i-n-g to help where help was needed most, level 40+. Level 1-30 already took only a few hours as a melee with a druid PL, exp bonus just cut out a couple hours from that. It's 40-50 that takes incredibly too long. I think level 45 took me about 16 hours, and that was with a two person bat group clearing the entire sol b zone as every single mob would pop. No real groups in that level range so god help melees who are trying to do it on their own.

Rallyd
04-03-2012, 12:45 PM
Heartbrand.. you are straight retard. Everything you talk about sounds very classic like to me on a pvp server. On rallos zek you never saw bluebie groups rolling around exping together, you did it solo. And if you didn't like that, you left to go play on some teams pvp server where you could be friends with someone without actually holding a conversation with them.

I'm sorry your vision of EQ is to be an anti-social dick to everyone and assume you're going to have friends that want to level up with you or help you out. I guess that's why we see the core of Holocaust leave their recruits to die all day, because they really don't talk to them at all or know them, they just /guildinvite'ed them willy nilly.

heartbrand
04-03-2012, 12:50 PM
Poster above is in nihilum. Talks about bluebie groups. Talks about guild inviting everyone that is 46+. Talks about leaving recruits to die. Must be joke?

Rancid
04-03-2012, 12:55 PM
[QUOTE=Rallyd;609726] On rallos zek you never saw bluebie groups rolling around exping together, you did it solo.

Not true at all.

Lazortag
04-03-2012, 12:55 PM
everyone will be back for increased XP rates. the shit in place now is laughable.

it's kind of funny when there is easily 20+ people that will be able to play if XP was modified.

Yeah and most of them are people who were permanently banned and want an easy way to reroll after they cheat/train/etc.

heartbrand
04-03-2012, 12:57 PM
Just want to remind people that Rallyd, aka Emumu, is the same guy who told a recruit who was being corpse camped that they were busy killing bawses. Also part of guild that logs off immediately when no raid targets are up.

Haul
04-03-2012, 01:03 PM
I'm sorry these guys are so angry and have it out for the server and its staff so badly. Hope you don't let it get to you Amelinda. I wish everyone shitting up the forum could lose everything in game. Cleaning out the bad here and everything connected on the server would really make it a better place for everyone.

Theres probably 300+ chars on the server 45-50, but only about 100 or so are playing atm. Other than that its a decent amount of 1-40 players, but with the classic era content stagnation, many people are putting the server aside until theres more to do.

Hopefully sol-ro/poh soon, followed by sky and kunark. The multitude of content in kunark should breathe a lot more life into the server.

Many people put the server aside because its whack, has low population, is hardly classic, and is full of rat punks. A large handful of which are in Nihilum-

jibekn
04-03-2012, 01:04 PM
Just want to remind people that Rallyd, aka Emumu, is the same guy who told a recruit who was being corpse camped that they were busy killing bawses. Also part of guild that logs off immediately when no raid targets are up.

also the same tool that glitched nagafen multiple times for nihilum

Trorist tells vent "Dont say this shit in guild chat bro's"

Haul
04-03-2012, 01:06 PM
Heartbrand.. you are straight retard. Everything you talk about sounds very classic like to me on a pvp server. On rallos zek you never saw bluebie groups rolling around exping together, you did it solo. And if you didn't like that, you left to go play on some teams pvp server where you could be friends with someone without actually holding a conversation with them.

I'm sorry your vision of EQ is to be an anti-social dick to everyone and assume you're going to have friends that want to level up with you or help you out. I guess that's why we see the core of Holocaust leave their recruits to die all day, because they really don't talk to them at all or know them, they just /guildinvite'ed them willy nilly.

Um you're a dick to everyone. What the HELL are you talking about homo rofl.

Rydar
04-03-2012, 01:10 PM
Just want to remind people that Rallyd, aka Emumu, is the same guy who told a recruit who was being corpse camped that they were busy killing bawses. Also part of guild that logs off immediately when no raid targets are up.

I want to remind everyone Heartbrand aka Mr. beenineverguild on the server and is now stuck in HOLOCAUST (compelete with swastica sigs that several got banned for flying yesterday) as a self described player of a race persecuted during the holocast (the one affiliated with swasticas that is).

can't kill bawses (wiped to naggy 4x at 3am i the morning lolz), is not allowed to kill bawses (feeble attempts to contest raid mobs result in more screenshots for Thrillas graveyard) and is reduced farming lguk for the 5th month straight xping on his 6th alt and selling black enameled chestplates 4 ever (see numerous trade forums that are multiple pages long). (yes he is not blue..)

lolz, so bitter. He had big dreams of being #1, and now is on farm status by Founding Fathers. Dreams now crushed, on suicide watch RED ALERT!

Rydar
04-03-2012, 01:13 PM
Um you're a dick to everyone. What the HELL are you talking about homo rofl.

^^^ multiple accounts deleted due to RMT, on suicide watch. RED ALERT 2x

If diable3 gets delayed even 1 week, I insist we all participlate in 24/7 rotating group therapy for this individual, he is close to the edge. See oddjob's screenshots to see the gravity of this situation!! RED ALERT!

Angkar
04-03-2012, 01:27 PM
Not sure who Rydar is.

biscuits2455
04-03-2012, 01:30 PM
Server is alive and well. Holo tags are how you tell who the good guys are.

Tassador
04-03-2012, 02:14 PM
~red994lyfe

Haul
04-03-2012, 06:51 PM
^^^ multiple accounts deleted due to RMT, on suicide watch. RED ALERT 2x

If diable3 gets delayed even 1 week, I insist we all participlate in 24/7 rotating group therapy for this individual, he is close to the edge. See oddjob's screenshots to see the gravity of this situation!! RED ALERT!

It's spelled Diablo3, not "diable3" so I shouldn't have even kept reading past that because you're a blockhead LOL. "Close to the egde?" "Suicide watch?" What are you even talking about you look extremely gay/uneducated.

Rushmore
04-04-2012, 12:14 AM
I heard that the blue server will merge with the red server and I am worried about my item valuations being brought down by an influx of readily available items on red:

Should I be worried?

Bro... "ok computer" was almost 20 years ago. Find another band!

aborted
04-04-2012, 04:31 AM
I just started like 3 weeks ago, and i am enjoying it. Enough people on the server to still need to watch your back but not enough that you are getting ganked by multiple people constantly.