YT isn't the solution

[Vile]

Sorry VZTZ bros, YT doesn't solve shit. If you want to brag about your kill, take a screenshot and post it.

More so than not, the one who gets the YT got a lucky hit, only did 5% total damage to the person and gets to see their name announced to the server. Amazzzzzzzzzzing. I rather my druid in my group be watching my health and healing me instead of trying to get that nuke off when X player is at 3% health and they think they can get that YT.

OOC... yea I could see this being helpful and there would definitely need to be a way to toggle it on and off.

The server pop sucks because it caters to the poop-socking, basement dwelling, 10+ hour days of grinding neck-beards.

You can't deny this. If you're level 50 with decent gear, I welcome you to post your /played time bros. It's probably disgusting.

XP needs to be multiplied to an adequate level to support the small community. Face it, the amount of people who play or who want to play EQ PvP doesn't come close to those who want to blue it up. Even with the scaling bonus and being power leveled, it takes a ridiculous amount of time.

At this point of the server the population for lvl 1-40 is basically non existent and when you finally get 40+, prepared to get stomped on by the people with 25+ days /played.


in b4 Harrison - you're fat
in b4 Lazorfag - your brother is better than you

As Princess Salty would say, "come at me bros"....

[Pitborn]

Yellow Text is comedy.

[gnomishfirework]

i just think more people need to play on here. thats the solution. dont any of you have friends? make them play! if i had even one friend i would at least ask them.

[mostbitter]

I'm still level 22 this game obvious treating me right with exp durpy durp durp

[Haul]

http://www.maxfreak.com/diablo3/images/diablo-3-announcement.jpg

Is the solution.

[Andis]

YELLOW TEXT / GLOBAL OOC NEEDED ... TURN IT ON WATCH THE POP GROW .. SIMPLE AS THAT

[Zallar]

The problem with an even higher straight XP bonus is that it trivializes the investment of time required to level a character. This reduces the effectiveness of suspensions and bans. All the hardcore folks can push the limits of cheating / rule breaking because it would only take them a day or two to level up another character.

One way to increase XP for the casuals and not benefit the hardcore would be to have a small window of XP bonus based on last login time. For example, if you've been offline for 5 hours, then you get an XP bonus for the next 2 hours while you're online.

[Darwoth]

leaderboards as well, currently the server is pointless to play on as it gets old killing the same nihilum zergers for the 800th time whereupon i get to sit and med for 10 minutes, having made them lose nothing for their death and having gained nothing for my victory.

at least yellow text and a leaderboard would provide some form of motivation.

[Nirgon]

You still playin' Dirty D?

[hagard]

The server pop sucks because it caters to the poop-socking, basement dwelling, 10+ hour days of grinding neck-beards.


110% accurate. Casual gamers stand no chance

[Lazortag]

Sorry VZTZ bros, YT doesn't solve shit. If you want to brag about your kill, take a screenshot and post it.

More so than not, the one who gets the YT got a lucky hit, only did 5% total damage to the person and gets to see their name announced to the server. Amazzzzzzzzzzing. I rather my druid in my group be watching my health and healing me instead of trying to get that nuke off when X player is at 3% health and they think they can get that YT.

OOC... yea I could see this being helpful and there would definitely need to be a way to toggle it on and off.

The server pop sucks because it caters to the poop-socking, basement dwelling, 10+ hour days of grinding neck-beards.

You can't deny this. If you're level 50 with decent gear, I welcome you to post your /played time bros. It's probably disgusting.

XP needs to be multiplied to an adequate level to support the small community. Face it, the amount of people who play or who want to play EQ PvP doesn't come close to those who want to blue it up. Even with the scaling bonus and being power leveled, it takes a ridiculous amount of time.

At this point of the server the population for lvl 1-40 is basically non existent and when you finally get 40+, prepared to get stomped on by the people with 25+ days /played.


in b4 Harrison - you're fat
in b4 Lazorfag - your brother is better than you

As Princess Salty would say, "come at me bros"....

I don't think this is altogether unreasonable, and I agree with a lot of what you said about YT.

As for exp, I've played on boxes with 10x exp and this is what happens: people rush to 50 (usually somewhere far off like paineel where they can avoid pvp at all costs) and then the non-soloers who were left behind are left with an even bigger ghost town since no one is in their range anymore. People who are done leveling to 50 have even less motivation to log in because one of their main goals (grinding) is already complete. p99's population was highest right after kunark launched because people weren't finished grinding to 60 yet; similarly red99's pop was highest early on also.

There are other reasons why rushing to 50 is bad. It means you get no mid-level pvp. For those of you who think this is non-existent, you probably run every time you're evenly matched so please kindly shut up :). I engaged in pvp at every single level, all the way from 1 to 49 (I'm still 49 but I can guarantee that there'll be pvp at 50 also). Mid-level pvp is important because it means you have to constantly master your class at different stages of its development. On pvp servers with slow exp Bards have even clearer milestones than on other servers (level 5 is Selo's, level 15 is ae mez, 27 is charm, 30/38/46 are your dots, and there are a bunch of other important pvp spells in between). This is important because the amount of time you spend in a particular level range is longer, so it takes more skill to competently play your class and adjust to not having as much utility. On a server with fast exp, it wouldn't matter that before level 28 I don't have my targeted mez, since I could grind to 28 in a day.

It also takes more skill to have to hold a camp longer without (a) getting killed by mobs or (b) getting dirtnapped by another player. Moreover, it takes skill to develop strategies for leveling quickly and efficiently (ever been in a group with a slow puller or people who AFK constantly? On a fast exp server this behavior still gets you to level 50 quickly. On a slow exp server you can't get away with this).
Holding a camp for the 2 days it takes to get to level 50 on fast-exp servers is not a challenge at all, since it goes by so quickly that there's less impact when errors are made.

These might not be things you or other VZTZers come to this server for, but it's a reason I come here and am still interested in the server. I'd say that even if it did raise the population, significantly boosting the exp would still not be a good idea. Their goal is to recreate the classic experience (or something close to it), and 10x exp kills that.

TLDR: okay, this post is too long. What I'm basically saying is that you don't need to be level 50 for EQ to be enjoyable, and each level along the way is its own new challenge. I'm not saying 10x exp servers are not fun, just that I and many others do not prefer them.

edit: as for my /played, I'm not logged in nor have I logged in for at least a week, but it's floating somewhere around 12 days. I played pretty casually and did not emphasize grinding that much, so the typical player around my level probably has less /played. Obviously this is a lot, but if you think of the journey to 50 as something you spread out over a few months and enjoy instead of something you're trying to rush, then it's not so bad.

[tehruoh]

The server pop sucks because it caters to the poop-socking, basement dwelling, 10+ hour days of grinding neck-beards.




Welcome to Everquest. (tutorial voice)

[Vile]

TLDR: okay, this post is too long. What I'm basically saying is that you don't need to be level 50 for EQ to be enjoyable, and each level along the way is its own new challenge. I'm not saying 10x exp servers are not fun, just that I and many others do not prefer them.

edit: as for my /played, I'm not logged in nor have I logged in for at least a week, but it's floating somewhere around 12 days. I played pretty casually and did not emphasize grinding that much, so the typical player around my level probably has less /played. Obviously this is a lot, but if you think of the journey to 50 as something you spread out over a few months and enjoy instead of something you're trying to rush, then it's not so bad.

Ok you actually surprised me, I thought you were gonna come here and try to spin everything.

The thing is, there is no population to support the mid level PvP.. you're basically playing P99 Blue with no one to group with until you hit 40+ then you're going to get spanked by the people who have been farming gear for the last 2-3 months..

The truth is, especially with our server's population, the game really does begin at lvl 50. People want to contest mobs, camps, zones, etc... no one wants to level up in empty zones, or have some random twink roll up and destroy you. If all of those zones were populated and there were groups to find at every level I could understand the argument.

It's been a few months now (we've warned the devs over and over)... the server isn't going to sustain itself in it's current state, why not trying boosting XP, get more people into the 40-50 range, see some new guilds form, and sit back and watch the PvP unfold...

I guess I am crazy..

[Greegon]

leaderboards ...........
at least yellow text and a leaderboard would provide some form of motivation.

God damn, yes, leaderboards. And yellow text might not do anything but bring back 5 people but I would love to see it. I think most of all, to fix the population, stop all the goddamn doomsday talk/flaming on the r99 boards and maybe get someone that can code to fix all the bugs.

Also punish the exploiters that have gone unscathed, find different punishment besides perma-ban. People say kunark would fix things but tbh with this population it would just kill the server. Already have said it but fix the bugs and problems + add yt/global ooc before making any game changes. Wait a week, see if it helps, then go along with progression anyways.

[kazroth]

I've been getting dirtnapped by lowbies everywhere I go, haha... the mid levels might be different, but there are definitely lower characters playing.

Kazroth, level 11 Ogre Shaman

[Tassador]

YT will bring atleast 50 players back.

[Vile]

leaderboards as well, currently the server is pointless to play on as it gets old killing the same nihilum zergers for the 800th time whereupon i get to sit and med for 10 minutes, having made them lose nothing for their death and having gained nothing for my victory.

at least yellow text and a leaderboard would provide some form of motivation.

A leaderboard, yea... that would be cool. It would need to be created in a way that it cannot be exploited, which would take some dev time away from some more important things.

I still don't see why YT is so important. We've all seen it on VZTZ.. people will camp nakeds and grief people on CRs and act like they're #1 when the YT is announced to the server.

Yes, I agree it's awesome when a real mass PvP fight is going down, or even the rare legit group PvP but other than that it's just used a griefing tool.

As I've already said, if its so important to you people, just post a screenshot of your kills on the forums... you guys are just gonna screen shot the YT anyway...

[Vile]

YT will bring atleast 50 players back.

Maybe 5 people.

YT isn't going to bring back the casual players that really want to play.

[Darwoth]

You still playin' Dirty D?

negative, playing haven and hearth (ffa, permadeath) again atm waiting for the salem (new h&h) beta to start.

doubt i will play much if any r99 unless the pop picks back up to at least 200+ on an average night instead of the current sub 100 with under 20 during the low peak.

[Nirgon]

negative, playing haven and hearth (ffa, permadeath) again atm waiting for the salem (new h&h) beta to start.

doubt i will play much if any r99 unless the pop picks back up to at least 200+ on an average night instead of the current sub 100 with under 20 during the low peak.

You mean... this... wait.

You ... wait.

You ma... no ... hm.

What I'm trying to say is good job not playing here anymore, loser (like me)! Right? I think that's what needs to be said.

[Dullah]

...leaderboards, blah ...

Oh leaderboards, goody!. Lets make EQ into the 1337357 FPS MMO EVAR. It will be so great...

or we can just not have stupid additions that change what Everquest is, and those of us who like classic Everquest can enjoy it.

[Darwoth]

sullon zek had a leaderboard, pretty good one that tracked kills, deaths, time, zone and even a daily point value based off of how many enemy tokens you had at the time.

[Rydar]

Thankfully this server is more about EQ as a whole , with PvP on the side to add to it.

If the EQ population here was naivie and noob and fresh, then maybe we could have those other things. But its not, its all vetran and/or jaded, and as such we must have more hard coded soulutions to maintain a classic atmosphere here.

Think about it, if 99.9 percent of all EQ players in 1999 were griefin Darwoths... would we of had the fun/fond memories of it? Hell no.

No to YT and global OOC. Those things cater and encourage the wrong element and attitude here. Simple as that.

Join the <global OOC> guild if you want global OOC. Or join the mIRC channel for red99. And/or post screenshots of your kills in the RnF section here.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

We dont need a ingame "solution" that will drive away the remaining mature players.

[Vile]

We dont need a ingame "solution" that will drive away the remaining mature players.

Have fun with the "remaining" players.

[kprobe]

The problem with an even higher straight XP bonus is that it trivializes the investment of time required to level a character. This reduces the effectiveness of suspensions and bans. All the hardcore folks can push the limits of cheating / rule breaking because it would only take them a day or two to level up another character.

One way to increase XP for the casuals and not benefit the hardcore would be to have a small window of XP bonus based on last login time. For example, if you've been offline for 5 hours, then you get an XP bonus for the next 2 hours while you're online.

This is a good idea.

Currently there is a huge disparity between starting a new character not being in a good guild and start with one. I can literally PL another guildmate 1-20 in 5 hours, and it doesn't stop there. In contrast even solo classes need probably 5x the time.

Having something balance the alt vs fresh players by encouraging casuals is something I'm for.

Long ass post with good points...

This might have been the case when there was a pretty decent pop when we leveled and you had people to PvP with easily and there was no real twink presence. Now its a pretty different story. I agree with you 10x isn't the answer, but we need something to help the casual interest.

The really fun part of the game does start at 50. Guild v Guild is where its at. How do we keep the investment time to mean something, while making it easier to pick up as a casual? How do we make the journey as fun as it was for the early people when pop was 200-600.

[Sirken]

Lazor i think i agree with you 100%. people raced to 50 completely forgetting that just getting to 50 is a HUGE part of the game. you are suppose to enjoy the grind to get there. its like picking up a book, and skipping to the last chapter, then complaining the book sucks.

the biggest two problems to the server are not dumb shit like global ooc or yt. the biggest two are 1) players griefing other players. all your guys' dumb fucking training, exploiting, BC and CC, and other grief kills the population MUCH faster than any staff decisions have. and 2) another huge problem is that it seems a lot of you aren't here to play EQ. most of you are here to play Call of Duty with EQ toons.


until those two things change, nothing the staff can do will help the pop.

[kazroth]

until those two things change, nothing the staff can do will help the pop.

I accept your quest, sir! Level 11 Shaman, enjoying the "journey" so far! :)

Saw some corpse camping and AFK ganking goin' on today, but I have high hopes for the future!

[Nirgon]

Lazor i think i agree with you 100%. people raced to 50 completely forgetting that just getting to 50 is a HUGE part of the game. you are suppose to enjoy the grind to get there. its like picking up a book, and skipping to the last chapter, then complaining the book sucks.

the biggest two problems to the server are not dumb shit like global ooc or yt. the biggest two are 1) players griefing other players. all your guys' dumb fucking training, exploiting, BC and CC, and other grief kills the population MUCH faster than any staff decisions have. and 2) another huge problem is that it seems a lot of you aren't here to play EQ. most of you are here to play Call of Duty with EQ toons.


until those two things change, nothing the staff can do will help the pop.

Reading the whole book filled with typos and parts of the book only certain people are allowed to read. Getting to the end of the book realizing it and putting the book down.

Fixed it for ya.

[Rydar]

Lazor i think i agree with you 100%. people raced to 50 completely forgetting that just getting to 50 is a HUGE part of the game. you are suppose to enjoy the grind to get there. its like picking up a book, and skipping to the last chapter, then complaining the book sucks.

the biggest two problems to the server are not dumb shit like global ooc or yt. the biggest two are 1) players griefing other players. all your guys' dumb fucking training, exploiting, BC and CC, and other grief kills the population MUCH faster than any staff decisions have. and 2) another huge problem is that it seems a lot of you aren't here to play EQ. most of you are here to play Call of Duty with EQ toons.


until those two things change, nothing the staff can do will help the pop.

The Truth.

I'm glad the staff sees it this way too.

[Sirken]

Reading the whole book filled with typos and parts of the book only certain people are allowed to read. Getting to the end of the book realizing it and putting the book down.

Fixed it for ya.

no.

i dont thing you quite grasped my analogy :(

[heartbrand]

The fact Sirken posted that shows how out of touch the staff is with the playerbase and why the pop will continue to dwindle until only Nihilum is left playing this shit server, grinding out pixels.

[loserofgame]

Lazor i think i agree with you 100%. people raced to 50 completely forgetting that just getting to 50 is a HUGE part of the game. you are suppose to enjoy the grind to get there. its like picking up a book, and skipping to the last chapter, then complaining the book sucks.

the biggest two problems to the server are not dumb shit like global ooc or yt. the biggest two are 1) players griefing other players. all your guys' dumb fucking training, exploiting, BC and CC, and other grief kills the population MUCH faster than any staff decisions have. and 2) another huge problem is that it seems a lot of you aren't here to play EQ. most of you are here to play Call of Duty with EQ toons.


until those two things change, nothing the staff can do will help the pop.

Sorry, but no.

There aren't simply two 'biggest problems to the server'. There are a great deal of issues, many of which have been outlined very clearly and eloquently by posters from all sides, and players of all guilds, which is unfortunately lost in this ocean of flames and tears.

But to respond to your points:

1) Players griefing other players is a classic, and iconic, aspect of EQ PvP. I agree that exploiting is wrong. But training, bind camping, corpse camping, and other griefs are the entire challenge(and a lot of the intrigue) of playing on a Red server.

2) People who want to play Call of Duty are already playing Call of Duty. People are here to play EQ PvP, which many players are unable to do considering active PvP is heavily restricted by staff.

People who want to enjoy the regular, unimpeded journey to 50 should play on Blue instead, and by and large do. Some of those players also play on Red, which is fine. But it should not be expected that players should conduct themselves on Red as they would on Blue.

Grief does not kill a population that has come here to grief and be griefed, which anyone who has ever played on a live EQ PvP server should absolutely expect.

Rules do.

[Lazortag]

Are you crazy? Of COURSE griefing hurts the population. You don't think a shit ton of people left when they were killed at the bank with all their plat (because guards wouldn't assist in the first few weeks)? You don't think anyone said "fuck it" when they were killed without provocation on the boat, or 10 zones away from their bind point, etc.? Sure griefing was a part of classic but it wasn't nearly as common as it is on red99.

Is griefing the only problem? Of course not. But if you think you're helping the population every time you corpse camp someone, you're nuts.

[loserofgame]

Are you crazy? Of COURSE griefing hurts the population. You don't think a shit ton of people left when they were killed at the bank with all their plat (because guards wouldn't assist in the first few weeks)? You don't think anyone said "fuck it" when they were killed without provocation on the boat, or 10 zones away from their bind point, etc.? Sure griefing was a part of classic but it wasn't nearly as common as it is on red99.

Is griefing the only problem? Of course not. But if you think you're helping the population every time you corpse camp someone, you're delusional.

Those aren't the type of players who would stick it out in the long run anyway.

If you signed up for a Red server without the expectation to get your ass beat down, camped, and trained many times for no particular reason, you should not have come. From what I've heard, Blue is a wonderful server. Why not play there instead? People came here for a challenge, for murderous, bloodthirsty wars.

For the record, I don't corpse camp people. I share an anti-pk mentality like yourself, and, also like yourself, I'm at a loss as to where to go because on a server where excess griefing isn't permitted, there's really no role for an anti-pk player to play.

I'll agree that there are more people with a 'griefer' mentality on Red99 than on live servers. All the more reason to allow it, imo. Might actually give people incentive to kill people. Right now, it's barely worth the mana unless you're fighting for the right to camp pixels that steadily lose value as more and more of them are produced for less and less players.

[Sirken]

Sorry, but no.

There aren't simply two 'biggest problems to the server'. There are a great deal of issues, many of which have been outlined very clearly and eloquently by posters from all sides, and players of all guilds, which is unfortunately lost in this ocean of flames and tears.
and of all those issues, regardless of how many there are, there will still be a top 2 (as long as 2 or more issues exist).

But to respond to your points:
1) Players griefing other players is a classic, and iconic, aspect of EQ PvP. I agree that exploiting is wrong. But training, bind camping, corpse camping, and other griefs are the entire challenge(and a lot of the intrigue) of playing on a Red server.
2) People who want to play Call of Duty are already playing Call of Duty. People are here to play EQ PvP, which many players are unable to do considering active PvP is heavily restricted by staff.
1)training is not pvp. training is what players resort to when they are talentless scrubs at pvp. BCing and CCing naked toons for no reason, omg you are so uber man. if you dont think griefing players hurts the server population, then you are part of the problem. sorry to burst your bubble.
2) restricted how? you cant use mobs? we force you to actually use your class's abilities? grow up. a lot of these kids just want to run around fragging each other. "R99 = P99 + PvP" thats it. its not as overly complicated as you try to make it.

People who want to enjoy the regular, unimpeded journey to 50 should play on Blue instead, and by and large do. Some of those players also play on Red, which is fine. But it should not be expected that players should conduct themselves on Red as they would on Blue.
unimpeded is not the same as constantly trained and griefed. some players are not built for red, thats true. but if u expect a solo guildless player to stay here while guilds of kids are griefing them for no reason, then you are sadly mistaken.

Grief does not kill a population that has come here to grief and be griefed, which anyone who has ever played on a live EQ PvP server should absolutely expect.
Rules do.
see thats the problem. YOU came here to grief and be griefed, so YOU assumed thats why everyone is here. sadly you are once again mistaken. a lot of people came here to play EQ with PvP turned on. not to just race to 50 and grief everyone that crosses your path until they quit the server.


PS- it sounds a lot like you played on Sullon. if thats the experience you're looking for, then i am sorry, because this server will not ever meet your expectations. we have absolutely no desire to emulate sullon zek. if you can not be happy with out a sullon zek based server, then i strongly suggest you go and start one and make it the very best server it can be.

<3
Sirks

[loserofgame]

and of all those issues, regardless of how many there are, there will still be a top 2 (as long as 2 or more issues exist).


1)training is not pvp. training is what players resort to when they are talentless scrubs at pvp. BCing and CCing naked toons for no reason, omg you are so uber man. if you dont think griefing players hurts the server population, then you are part of the problem. sorry to burst your bubble.
2) restricted how? you cant use mobs? we force you to actually use your class's abilities? grow up. a lot of these kids just want to run around fragging each other. "R99 = P99 + PvP" thats it. its not as overly complicated as you try to make it.


unimpeded is not the same as constantly trained and griefed. some players are not built for red, thats true. but if u expect a solo guildless player to stay here while guilds of kids are griefing them for no reason, then you are sadly mistaken.


see thats the problem. YOU came here to grief and be griefed, so YOU assumed thats why everyone is here. sadly you are once again mistaken. a lot of people came here to play EQ with PvP turned on. not to just race to 50 and grief everyone that crosses your path until they quit the server.


PS- it sounds a lot like you played on Sullon. if thats the experience you're looking for, then i am sorry, because this server will not ever meet your expectations. we have absolutely no desire to emulate sullon zek. if you can not be happy with out a sullon zek based server, then i strongly suggest you go and start one and make it the very best server it can be.

<3
Sirks

No.

For starters, I played on Rallos.

Secondly, I did not come here to grief. I did, however, come here expecting to be griefed, and until you started to intervene, I was enjoying the challenge of trying to level despite the obstacles in my way, helping others, and fighting griefers. You have taken that away from me, and that is unfortunate.

I am a solo guildless player. You are again mistaken.

Please do not ask me to grow up when you cannot have a rational discussion with me. As a Guide, and a public representative of the staff, you should act more mature yourself.

I am not uber. Neither, unfortunately, are you. Please accept the criticism and move on. I didn't expect you to change, I asked you to listen. You will do neither.

I'll still play, despite the fact that you, not the people arguing with you, are in a position to change things for the better.

Edit: P.S. Thank you for the heart. I hope with all that excess love, you can learn to conduct public relations better.

[Rydar]

So so sooooo glad the staff understand what a true EQ pvp server should be.

Quick everyone get slathar and heartbrand on pre emptive suicide watch before they read Sirkens post! RED ALERT!

[bamzal]

I want to experience Rallos Zek as it was in 1999

[Rydar]

ok, then log in

[heartbrand]

So so sooooo glad the staff understand what a true EQ pvp server should be.

Quick everyone get slathar and heartbrand on pre emptive suicide watch before they read Sirkens post! RED ALERT!

Sipping a long island on the beach in Miami at the moment by my hotel. Thx

[heartbrand]

I still can't get over how guides talk to people here. News flash I was a senior guide during the petition era, got paid nada, had mandatory hours, had to deal with literally 50x the people who were 10x as rude and actually paid to play but would have never dreamed of speaking to people in a rude manner.

[Ssleeve]

Heartbrand giving 0 fucks lol

[Humerox]

I played on Sullon Zek.

Even there, we had community. Amongst the warping, MQ'ing, exploiting, griefing, and MB wizzies hanging at portals for that level 10...

Community. That's what the "blues" here understand better than the "reds". Sirken is right on target when he describes the people that want CoD with EQ characters.

They're not interested in the journey. They're not interested in the game. They're not interested in mid-level PvP (which is probably the MOST enjoyable PvP in-game.)

I like to blue it up. I like community. I love EQ. I also happen to enjoy PvP. It's been called "purple" I guess...but everybody needs to be a little purple. You can't be good at PvP unless SOMEONE PvE's the equipment. Even on RZ some blue MF had to quest or camp that frickin' "wheteveritis" you just looted. No "red" here seems to understand that sh#&.

Sirken understands a lot more than you silly fu&^ers want to admit.

[Vile]

There. Is. No. Mid. Lvl. Pvp.

[Harrison]

I think this pussy should cry about experience more. It seems to be working even though it's already increased.

Come to classic server
Cry that it's classic

Shut the fuck up.

[herpaderp]

http://www.maxfreak.com/diablo3/images/diablo-3-announcement.jpg

Is the solution.

its obvious you want to RMT for 5 dollars a day , but the rest of us want a packed eq pvp server in the old era , i know i do

thats why i still come here

still hoping staff wakes up and increases the exp to an amount NORMAL PEOPLE Would consider playing here for

slow exp is fine on blue , packed with items / market and non basement dwellers , here we need fat exp or go home imo

suck me

[Ssleeve]

There. Is. No. Mid. Lvl. Pvp.

Not true.

[herpaderp]

Sipping a long island on the beach in Miami at the moment by my hotel. Thx

where at im 40 mins north ill come chill !

you paying to get in the club tonight heart lets go get some latina cooter

[herpaderp]

10x exp erases all griefing and problems , because when the dust settles people can fix what was lost via trains / pvp exp loss , and without the huge time investment to level , players can focus on the downtime from pvp / farming items and not care

honestly tho , just do nothing i dont care either way im currently playing eve and EQ isnt even on my computer

[gloinz]

Not true.

basiah knows well that the pvp champ keeps pvp alive

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[Ssleeve]

Warrior solo hard brews.

[Ssleeve]

Diablo 3 is gunna suck.

[Beastro]

The problem with an even higher straight XP bonus is that it trivializes the investment of time required to level a character. This reduces the effectiveness of suspensions and bans. All the hardcore folks can push the limits of cheating / rule breaking because it would only take them a day or two to level up another character.

Ban persona's.

It's easy to tell if someone's rolled a new toon, especially now in our day of TS/Vent. If they do, just reban them and keep doing it until they stop making accounts and respect the time duration of their banning, or if it's permanent, then they have to find a new server to play on.

They get their account banned and get told to not show up on the serve again for x month(s), if they're found out again then the ban resets and another month gets added. It won't matter if you could get to 50 in a week if you wind up having to play Sisyphus over and over again not when you piss the GMs off and violate the rules, but when they merely discover that you're back on the server.

Further enforce it by using the same rules that apply to this RMT thing: If you know someone that got perma banned is playing again, you either tell the GMs about it or you're a party to rule violations and get a suspension if it's found out that you kept your trap shut.

All the usual suspects roll together. We all know who rolls in the major guilds, GMs just need to snoop around after one gets their account banned and suddenly their guild gets a new name. Push to talk to this person, most of all in vent to verify if they are actually someone new. If not, then they get another account banned.

The trash on this server are children, treat them like it.

Little Timmy keeps hopping out of bed and not wanting to sleep then you keep putting him in it without acknowledging him until he finally learns that he's not going to stay up late and finally decides to stay in the damn thing and close his eyes until he's told to get up.

Those that somehow manage to keep anon will still suffer harsh punishment because they can't go around flaunting their beloved personalities anymore but always fly under the radar.

Imagine this happening to one of the big names, like Smedy getting the hammer, choosing to play anon and never getting to play around with his video schtick anymore?

I know for a fact many of you have massive egos that are wedded to your EQ personalities. Forcing you to strip yourself of your beloved personas would be even worse than somehow permanently banning you from making new accounts.

[Lazortag]

10x exp erases all griefing and problems , because when the dust settles people can fix what was lost via trains / pvp exp loss , and without the huge time investment to level , players can focus on the downtime from pvp / farming items and not care

honestly tho , just do nothing i dont care either way im currently playing eve and EQ isnt even on my computer

10x exp also makes bans completely meaningless since you can just restart and grind back to 50 in a day. So someone like you who got banned for exploiting can reroll much more easily. That's not the kind of server I want to play on, sorry.

[Salty]

YT needs to be in.

STFU

[Vile]

where at im 40 mins north ill come chill !

you paying to get in the club tonight heart lets go get some latina cooter

Where you at? I am 40 mins north of Miami... :confused:

[kazroth]

No.

For starters, I played on Rallos.

Secondly, I did not come here to grief. I did, however, come here expecting to be griefed, and until you started to intervene, I was enjoying the challenge of trying to level despite the obstacles in my way, helping others, and fighting griefers. You have taken that away from me, and that is unfortunate.

I am a solo guildless player. You are again mistaken.

Please do not ask me to grow up when you cannot have a rational discussion with me. As a Guide, and a public representative of the staff, you should act more mature yourself.

I am not uber. Neither, unfortunately, are you. Please accept the criticism and move on. I didn't expect you to change, I asked you to listen. You will do neither.

I'll still play, despite the fact that you, not the people arguing with you, are in a position to change things for the better.

Edit: P.S. Thank you for the heart. I hope with all that excess love, you can learn to conduct public relations better.

Wow, any chance you're gonna get off your self-righteous pulpit soon?

[kazroth]

Sirken understands a lot more than you silly fu&^ers want to admit.

[Aenor]

"The server pop sucks because it caters to the poop-socking, basement dwelling, 10+ hour days of grinding neck-beards."

Nope. The server pop sucks because they didn't ban people who were caught cheating. Who wants to invest all the effort required into a server that's not legit?

[Harrison]

"The server pop sucks because it caters to the poop-socking, basement dwelling, 10+ hour days of grinding neck-beards."

Nope. The server pop sucks because they didn't ban people who were caught cheating. Who wants to invest all the effort required into a server that's not legit?

QFT

[Dubee]

There. Is. No. Mid. Lvl. Pvp.

Yes. There. Is. And. It. Is. Fun. As. Hell.

Lots of QQ in here. I think first or second page was where it was a good discussion between Vile and Lazor then went to garbage.

[gloinz]

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5570/stockye.jpg

as i have detailed before its due to xp being tough and us pvp'ers not good at pve

[Truth]

video games r hard????? or is it that doing the same thing over and over with predictable results (pve) is just insufferably boring

[Dubee]

video games r hard????? or is it that doing the same thing over and over with predictable results (pve) is just insufferably boring

Truth
Planar Protector
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El Culo
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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Plays Blue and comments in red about how boring pve is.

[Lulz Sect]

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[Silikten]

leaderboards as well, currently the server is pointless to play on as it gets old killing the same nihilum zergers for the 800th time whereupon i get to sit and med for 10 minutes, having made them lose nothing for their death and having gained nothing for my victory.

at least yellow text and a leaderboard would provide some form of motivation.

Leaderboards are stupid and skewed. They prove nothing. Case in point, Solid. The guy was awful yet farmed alts for points to get that "i'm so l33t" ego.

Yellow text benefits in so many ways. Showing where pvp is, who is being griefed, exposes assholes who are ccing, and I'm sure theres a ton more.

Global ooc makes a serverwide trade channel and lfg.


Also, in regards to Vile. I have 36days played.

[Snufz]

Leaderboards are stupid and skewed. They prove nothing. Case in point, Solid. The guy was awful yet farmed alts for points to get that "i'm so l33t" ego.

Yellow text benefits in so many ways. Showing where pvp is, who is being griefed, exposes assholes who are ccing, and I'm sure theres a ton more.

Global ooc makes a serverwide trade channel and lfg.


Also, in regards to Vile. I have 36days played.

Considering VZTZ had YT, want to explain how Solid farmed alts with server wide broadcasts on who was slain?

[SanlavenTZ]

Leaderboards are stupid and skewed. They prove nothing. Case in point, Solid. The guy was awful yet farmed alts for points to get that "i'm so l33t" ego.

Yellow text benefits in so many ways. Showing where pvp is, who is being griefed, exposes assholes who are ccing, and I'm sure theres a ton more.

Global ooc makes a serverwide trade channel and lfg.



I agree with Big Silikten the Wise

[Beastro]

"The server pop sucks because it caters to the poop-socking, basement dwelling, 10+ hour days of grinding neck-beards."

Nope. The server pop sucks because they didn't ban people who were caught cheating. Who wants to invest all the effort required into a server that's not legit?


It's extremely short sighted of any staff to not enforce massive bans simply because they're afraid of depopulating their server. Time and time again it's been shown how letting it slide and being soft only results in the exact same outcome, it only taking a few months longer and leaving only the cheaters.

Yellow text benefits in so many ways. Showing where pvp is, who is being griefed, exposes assholes who are ccing, and I'm sure theres a ton more.

Combined with global /ooc, it's a damn good conversation starter.

[Dubee]

Leaderboards are stupid and skewed. They prove nothing. Case in point, Solid. The guy was awful yet farmed alts for points to get that "i'm so l33t" ego.

Yellow text benefits in so many ways. Showing where pvp is, who is being griefed, exposes assholes who are ccing, and I'm sure theres a ton more.
Global ooc makes a serverwide trade channel and lfg.


I have never played any other emu's, and the only yellow text I am familiar with is from early 2000's /dueling.

However, I can imagine the following scenario:

Filthed corpse camping Bahamut in Guk.

Locations are not included in YT, so people start asking around, "Where is Filthed/Bahamut" (even people not in Holocaust or Founding Fathers because they want to kill Filthed/rescue Bahamut whatever..)

Finds out hes in Guk ice cometing a sweet innocent naked cleric at his bind.

Several guilds and independants arrive to Guk and some exciting PvP starts in multiple areas, between multiple guilds/independants.

Fun is had all around.

[solid]

Leaderboards are stupid and skewed. They prove nothing. Case in point, Solid. The guy was awful yet farmed alts for points to get that "i'm so l33t" ego.

Yellow text benefits in so many ways. Showing where pvp is, who is being griefed, exposes assholes who are ccing, and I'm sure theres a ton more.

Global ooc makes a serverwide trade channel and lfg.


Also, in regards to Vile. I have 36days played.

Lol @ Silikten's mouth still affixed around my nutsack.

History lesson for people who didn't play VZTZ 2.0: VZTZ 2.0 was launched and no one knew PVP stats were being recorded, or that it had a functional leaderboard- i.e. no one farmed alts. I griefed retards like Silikten all day, and then when the inaugural leaderboard was released, I was head and shoulders above anyone else on the server. Wasn't a huge deal for a baller like myself, as it was obvious who the Alpha-male of the server was at that point; but neckbeards like Silikten still dwell on it, and still make up baseless accusations rationalizing how they had 1/3 my leaderboard score, even 2+ years later! :eek:

Anyway, while I can agree w/ bitter-nuthanger Silikten on some points, what he doesn't realize, and what should be addressed is: the VZTZ 2.0 leaderboard is not outcome determinative of how an actual leaderboard on a PvP server would function. Again, no one even knew it was operational.

So: Did it offer a one-time look of purity into who the top PvPers on the server were w/o any garbage like score-padding? Yes.
Was a secret leaderboard compiling a score of any benefit to the server? No.

If you genuinely want to have a conversation about how an operational leaderboard would work, you should look to servers like Kings & Bandits that had fully functional leaderboards, and measures in place to prevent alt-farming and such.

Considering VZTZ had YT, want to explain how Solid farmed alts with server wide broadcasts on who was slain?

Exactly. Furthermore, there's no evidence of all of this alt-farming even though it was readily available to the hundreds that played during VZTZ's prime. Occam's Razor. Logic, deductive reasoning, and commonsense demonstrate why Silikten is just a bitter neckbeard. :rolleyes:

[hagard]

I don't see how yt will influence bind camping with the amount of blubies here, they will be like omg bind camping quick let's go cleanse the dirty pk then resume our circle jerk in fear

[Dubee]

I don't see how yt will influence bind camping with the amount of blubies here, they will be like omg bind camping quick let's go cleanse the dirty pk then resume our circle jerk in fear

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[Silikten]

I have never played any other emu's, and the only yellow text I am familiar with is from early 2000's /dueling.

However, I can imagine the following scenario:

Filthed corpse camping Bahamut in Guk.

Locations are not included in YT, so people start asking around, "Where is Filthed/Bahamut" (even people not in Holocaust or Founding Fathers because they want to kill Filthed/rescue Bahamut whatever..)

Finds out hes in Guk ice cometing a sweet innocent naked cleric at his bind.

Several guilds and independants arrive to Guk and some exciting PvP starts in multiple areas, between multiple guilds/independants.

Fun is had all around.

Location was shown from the version of YT that I had. That's why I enjoy it.

I'm so glad I am not one of those lowlife scumbags who don't play this server but keep coming back to make posts about random bullshit.

[Ssleeve]

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSIYmrAlpztSstHe3WbUdIOFBLO9CY1c 6An0NlMb6XwxshOO1L_0QIpUdfS


It's kind of an unspoken pop culture rule that Carlos Mencia is to never be mentioned or referenced again.

[hagard]

Xp loss is the best incentive to bc not yt

[mostbitter]

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[Vile]

36 days? fuckkkk man. I don't have that kind of time :(

[hagard]

36 days? fuckkkk man. I don't have that kind of time :(

Yea doesn't that sound like a good time

[Hovis]

Yea doesn't that sound like a good time

exactly why exp needs to be upped // exp loss needs to be removed or cut down A LOT -- i really dont have that much time - i would consider myself a casual player -- soloing as an 46 ench in wfp - i gain maybe .8% a kill .. with downtime and mistakes/roots or mezzes wearing off early i can safely say on average i get about 8-12% an hour. (not to mention the pvp that commonly happens in this trade area)

enough people log in - start up a guk group -- make a stupid mistake [happens after a 12-14 hour work day @2am] -- i die -- OH GREAT 20% EXP lost!!! GREAT WASTE OF 2-4 hours depending!!

[Harrison]

Experience was already upped you crybaby pussies.

[quido]

http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

[Harrison]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68182

You may under NO CIRCUMSTANCES at any time:

1. Attack or talk shit about the staff. IF you wanna participate in that then I suggest you do it in a forum where I am not a moderator.

2. Post non-p1999 posted RL Pics of other players. SO until a player has posted a RL picture of them or their family on the p99 boards then their photographs had better NOT show up in photoshops or ANY form on these boards.

3. Make Tasteless RL attacks. (Staff discretion)


I got TMO sweatin' hard. So afraid of being publicly shown for what they are, spamming pictures stalked from an ancient myspace.

[quido]

http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

[Harrison]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68182

You may under NO CIRCUMSTANCES at any time:

1. Attack or talk shit about the staff. IF you wanna participate in that then I suggest you do it in a forum where I am not a moderator.

2. Post non-p1999 posted RL Pics of other players. SO until a player has posted a RL picture of them or their family on the p99 boards then their photographs had better NOT show up in photoshops or ANY form on these boards.

3. Make Tasteless RL attacks. (Staff discretion)


I got TMO sweatin' hard. So afraid of being publicly shown for what they are, spamming pictures stalked from an ancient myspace.

[quido]

dumb
http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

[Harrison]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68182

You may under NO CIRCUMSTANCES at any time:

1. Attack or talk shit about the staff. IF you wanna participate in that then I suggest you do it in a forum where I am not a moderator.

2. Post non-p1999 posted RL Pics of other players. SO until a player has posted a RL picture of them or their family on the p99 boards then their photographs had better NOT show up in photoshops or ANY form on these boards.

3. Make Tasteless RL attacks. (Staff discretion)


I got TMO sweatin' hard. So afraid of being publicly shown for what they are, spamming pictures stalked from an ancient myspace.

[quido]

http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/harrimeme.jpg

[Hovis]

Experience was already upped you crybaby pussies.

lol yeah bro SOO much! 6% at lvl 47 .. that saves me a whole minute every 10%!!!!