If u have proof of training...

[Sirken]

if u have proof of training please just send it to me via these forums in a PM.

you do not have to wait for me to answer your in-game petition in order to send it, just send it.

depending how busy i am, or if the player in question has already been punished, i may not respond to you. however please know that i will seriously look at and consider all fraps and SSs that are sent to me. it will never be a waste of your time (unless your SSs and Fraps don't show what you're claiming).


ps- Sirken is a very busy man this week. and as such he will be taking steroids and duel wielding ban hammers upon the unjust. please act right.


Save the population - don't get yourself banned

[Humerox]

Right on!

:D

[hagard]

good to see sirken around

[Dubee]

if u have proof of training please just send it to me via these forums in a PM.

you do not have to wait for me to answer your in-game petition in order to send it, just send it.

depending how busy i am, or if the player in question has already been punished, i may not respond to you. however please know that i will seriously look at and consider all fraps and SSs that are sent to me. it will never be a waste of your time (unless your SSs and Fraps don't show what you're claiming).


ps- Sirken is a very busy man this week. and as such he will be taking steroids and duel wielding ban hammers upon the unjust. please act right.


Save the population - don't get yourself banned

Sirken for president!!

[Muaar]

thanks for ruining the server

[Smedy]

remember, anyone with a little creative could always forge a video or picture, remember to compare the logs with the actual "proof"

just a pro tip

[hagard]

remember, anyone with a little creative could always forge a video or picture, remember to compare the logs with the actual "proof"

just a pro tip

My plan has been foiled!

[Nirgon]

50-50 shot of any Holocaust caught training they'll just suspend without investigating I'm sure. Nihilum suspension process reviews - ~1-2 weeks.

[Ssleeve]

50-50 shot of any Holocaust caught training they'll just suspend without investigating I'm sure. Nihilum suspension process reviews - ~1-2 weeks.

Sounds mad.

[herpaderp]

training on red servers is a valid pvp tactic

its not against the rules btw

so fuck off GM

[gloinz]

training on red servers is a valid pvp tactic

its not against the rules btw

so fuck off GM

amen comrad

[Ssleeve]

training is for scrubs, get banned again steaks

[Arillious]

I've said it before....

Only the most blatantly obvious repetitive training should be enforced.

This is especially crucial because there is no specific rules list. In pvp, people run around like idiots and shit gets aggro'd. Its happened since the beginning of eq and will continue to happen until you ban every last person on the server and there's no one left.

Even if the training is intentional...

Unless people are stupid, the trainer should always cause more harm to themselves then the people they are trying to train.

This is especially true on a server where root lands 1/10 times with max resists. A raid force should have no problem combating trainers.

Are people really having problems with this? Wouldn't a GM's time be better spent sitting in a room by themselves just thinking of ways to improve the server?

[Lulz Sect]

don't train intentionally and you wont get suspended - QQ

[herpaderp]

i didnt say i trained , i just said its allowed on red servers , always has been

you dont honestly think people are going to stop because you told them to do you? some guide that showed up 3 months after the dust has settled? lols on you broski


and im not banned , and warriors cant really train that well also if i might add

[Lulz Sect]

i got 10 days suspended for training - so yeah guess what im going to stop using that tactic now to regain camps, even if they are taken over by OOR players like in this particular instance

oh wells dems tha breaks

[Nirgon]

Spit flyin', I blow my clean whistle in your faces and point to past history.

[biscuits2455]

Is there a place where red players can see the red ruleset? It seems like there is alot of confusion as to what is against the rules. Like ninja looting.

[Amelinda]

i didnt say i trained , i just said its allowed on red servers , always has been

you dont honestly think people are going to stop because you told them to do you? some guide that showed up 3 months after the dust has settled? lols on you broski


and im not banned , and warriors cant really train that well also if i might add


Training IS against the rules on Red99 and if sirken or I catch someone training they will be sad, sad pandas.

[heartbrand]

I've said it before....

Only the most blatantly obvious repetitive training should be enforced.

This is especially crucial because there is no specific rules list. In pvp, people run around like idiots and shit gets aggro'd. Its happened since the beginning of eq and will continue to happen until you ban every last person on the server and there's no one left.

Even if the training is intentional...

Unless people are stupid, the trainer should always cause more harm to themselves then the people they are trying to train.

This is especially true on a server where root lands 1/10 times with max resists. A raid force should have no problem combating trainers.

Are people really having problems with this? Wouldn't a GM's time be better spent sitting in a room by themselves just thinking of ways to improve the server?

This is one of the best posts I have ever read on these boards, it's a shame that it doesn't matter though. The issue with enforcing training, beyond what you just stated, is that it will always be enforced unequally. Player A will train Player B, get away with it, Player B will train Player A back later, get caught and suspended, Player A now laughs and makes posts on RNF. That isn't EverQuest, it's PetitonQuest, and it's lame as fuck.

[Sirken]

i didnt say i trained , i just said its allowed on red servers , always has been
and i'm saying that you are wrong. the ONLY red server that allowed training was that cesspool sorry excuse for a server called Sullon Zek.

VZ, RZ, and TZ did not allow trains

VZTZemu did not allow trains on any version of the box.



you dont honestly think people are going to stop because you told them to do you? some guide that showed up 3 months after the dust has settled? lols on you broski
i honestly do. if you do not, feel free to roll the dice. but dont QQ when you get a month off.

[seaweedpimpz]

< sad panda

[Pitborn]

and i'm saying that you are wrong. the ONLY red server that allowed training was that cesspool sorry excuse for a server called Sullon Zek.

VZ, RZ, and TZ did not allow trains

VZTZemu did not allow trains on any version of the box.




i honestly do. if you do not, feel free to roll the dice. but dont QQ when you get a month off.


Best server ever.

[Ssleeve]

So much bitching.... just play the damn game.

[Nirgon]

cesspool sorry excuse for a server called Sullon Zek.


See sig for Sirken related infos.

[gloinz]

Best server ever.

well a person who likes being a gm wouldn't like a server where there was no gm's, completely biased imo

sullon zek was freedom

1) freedom from the TYRANNY of GMS
2) freedom to do whatever was in the game - IF ITS IN THE GAME, ITS IN THE GAME

rules are for girlymen, if a group rolls in with more numbers and steals my poor dwarfs camp i should be able to sacrifice myself to cause misery for the enemy group

pvp, like war, or fighting guidos, isn't always fair, and just because someone brings a train to a gun fight doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed

[Lulz Sect]

if a group rolls in with more numbers and steals my poor dwarfs camp i should be able to sacrifice myself to cause misery for the enemy group

[Gloves]

gloinz for president

[herpaderp]

gloinz is a bamf but he couldnt hack the shit exp like meself

i logged in cozmonaut day 1 of red roll , killed 1 monster then lollogged and didnt return for 2 months