Upcoming election

[rat slaying inc.]

It's all over the news, its not too far away and its probably going to lead us into a depression. So who's it gonna be? Republican, Democrat? Or you might not even want to vote! I'd like to get some feedback from you classic EverQuesters, most people I always played with were majorly liberal, although im extremely conservative and far right wing.

[Rallyd]

tbh, in the end does it really matter? I consider myself independent but lean more toward liberal views on social matters. It really doesn't matter who the president or senate or anyone is, this country is run by one thing.. Money.

[Ephirith]

I'm a spectral syncretic myself, but I'm leaning toward Obama because I hate everything about libertarianism and theocratic conservatism. Fiscal conservatives aren't so bad. Republicans don't have a viable candidate and aren't going to win. "Silent Majority" moderates aren't going to vote for any of them, the only one who had a shot at wooing moderates was Romney but I think Obama is ultimately still more attractive to most moderates.

Romney wants to increase defense spending. Because the USA needs to spend more than the next 20 militaries combined, amirite?

[Lazortag]

I'm a Canadian but I've followed the election pretty closely, watched all the debates, etc. I think either Romney or a re-elected Obama would do the best job, whereas the rest of the candidates pretty much have no hope in hell of winning (and if they did win they would be horrible presidents). Newt (who could trust a guy named Newt, anyway?) kind of did "conservative republicans" a disservice by continuing to run and split the vote between him and Santorum. He's always had ups and downs, and every time he was popular he'd act belligerent or say something stupid and kill a lot of the enthusiasm voters had towards him. He also has a lot of political baggage and is hard to take seriously. I think Santorum is extremely ignorant and bigoted, and I know this sounds silly but I doubt people want the united states to be represented by a guy who's name has become synonymous with "the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex". His views on gay rights/reproductive rights are frankly just silly, and several times he's been challenged on them only to look like a fool.

[prince 7th edition]

if you think theres any reasonable likelyhood the GOP will win this election, you're deluding yourself

[prince 7th edition]

tbh, in the end does it really matter? I consider myself independent but lean more toward liberal views on social matters. It really doesn't matter who the president or senate or anyone is, this country is run by one thing.. Money.

also, this

[moklianne]

tbh, in the end does it really matter? I consider myself independent but lean more toward liberal views on social matters. It really doesn't matter who the president or senate or anyone is, this country is run by one thing.. Money.

My take as well.

As far as GOP candidates, it kinda feels like back during the Kerry/Bush run. Kerry was very uninspiring and everyone knew he wouldn't win, but pushed for him anyway. All of the Republicans at this point feel this way or even worse.

Besides that, Democrat or Republican isn't really going to matter this time around. The approval ratings are so low for the house and senate that any incumbent will be at great risk.

I however will not be voting for either Obama or whatever the GOP coughs up. I'm going to take a serious look at the alternatives. I let a lot of little things slide when it came to Obama and overall he represents us well in the global community, however the signing of the NDAA that allows indefinite detention of US citizens without due process is where I draw the line. The economy will get better and worse on its own due to American ingenuity and perseverance. The government can do things to help or slow this, but it will recover for the most part by itself. Civil liberties and the erosion of our Constitution do not recover so easily. Once they're gone, it takes a massive uprising or change in government policy to correct.

[prince 7th edition]

need some term limits in congress

[moklianne]

need some term limits in congress

Definitely, state governments need them too.

[FoxxHound]

Dunno yet.
I am VERY socially liberal, but somewhat economical conservative.
While the country is run on one thing; which the person up there said is "Money".
A lot of the social aspects affect me directly.
So not sure~

[Kraftwerk]

This picture alone sums up why Obama is a flacid inefficient pawn of Big Finance and due to his willingness to hire any/all ex-GS into high government office will win the re-election.

http://startthinkingright.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/corzine-and-obama-buddies.png

[Convict]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a1PPDJFLBJ4/TwbXgV5lSzI/AAAAAAAAD3M/6G8JdvNsEfA/s1600/191011fecdata3.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f6I4BBWFzmk/T0MlGkMTkXI/AAAAAAAAJ8Q/sNSncUJNi1E/s1600/Ron+Paul+military+campaign+contributions.jpg
http://media.washtimes.com/media/community/viewpoint/entry/2012/02/21/vets_march_resize_s640x427.jpg?73b8e21685896c3f285 9310aaa5adb253919b641

[Kraftwerk]

Yea, I'm pro Paul but also a realist and understand it'll never happen. I just can't bring myself to vote for any of the other corporate shills who are deadset on reaching the bottom of the upcoming currency/trade wars.

But, in the end I'm glad to be an American. Because honestly, it's better than being in Europe, where when shit finally hits the fan we're looking a whole lot better in terms of our debt/GDP ratio:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2011/12/World%20debt%20to%20GDP.jpg

[Convict]

Yea, I'm pro Paul but also a realist and understand it'll never happen.
I'm also a realist and understand if it doesn't happen its because of people like who you keep saying it will never happen. There's still no reason to vote for any of the other choices over Paul for any reason, period. Well, unless of course you are a supporter of inflation tax, rampant corruption, ndaa, war, bail outs, etc.

[Kraftwerk]

I'm also a realist and understand if it doesn't happen its because of people like who you keep saying it will never happen.

Haha, I'm voting for him and educate other people about him and the main problem we're facing as a country (The Federal Reserve), but yea, it's my fault he won't get elected. Not the fact that our electoral system is broken.

[Barkingturtle]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f6I4BBWFzmk/T0MlGkMTkXI/AAAAAAAAJ8Q/sNSncUJNi1E/s1600/Ron+Paul+military+campaign+contributions.jpg


Judging by this thread, Paul supporters might be a little too militant for their own good even.

Haha, just kidding. Don't track me down and murder me or anything.

[Convict]

Haha, I'm voting for him and educate other people about him and the main problem we're facing as a country (The Federal Reserve), but yea, it's my fault he won't get elected. Not the fact that our electoral system is broken.
My apologies sir, it seems you are fighting the good fight. Don't take me the wrong way. You are correct the federal reserve is the greatest threat to our nation (or more accurately, the people of our nation). The system is only partly broken. Where and when it does work, the establishment usually comes in and commits massive acts of voter fraud which we have seen several instances of so far to ensure Ron Paul is not a perceived winner.

[Convict]

Judging by this thread, Paul supporters might be a little too militant for their own good even.

Haha, just kidding. Don't track me down and murder me or anything.
Heh, militant is one word I have not yet seen used to describe paul supporters. The rest of the GOP? Sure.

[Ephirith]

Ron Paul's ideology and libertarianism are very appealing to people who are anti-establishment, or who perceive massive injustices/a broken system. It's real easy to latch onto what libertarianism says when you have a limited understanding of political science, kind of like how Ayn Rand tends to be extremely appealing to adolescents who then throw it out when they get older. I appreciate that the guy has a set of core values he does not compromise on a whim. I love his foreign policy. But that political philosophy would just be a disaster.

What about government-sponsored research for when there is no market calling? Free market, unregulated environmental protection / tort law? No nuclear power regulation? Privatized higher education? Privatized national parks? No regulatory agencies for water quality, road construction, transportation safety, etc etc. The government isn't perfect, there is so much wrong with having a large, powerful centralized government. But it's easy to forget why it is necessary, it works to counter the inherent bacterial nature of humanity. The state serves as an artificial, inhuman counterpart to all of the negative things about humanity, that is why the stupid things we do so often come into conflict with the government. We should absolutely criticize our government, point out the things that it is fucking up royally, but we should do so in the interest of making it better, not throwing it out and giving up.

[Knuckle]

none of you are going to have any sort of positive impact on society by your vote.

[Kingofqueens123]

United socialist states of America,NO!
most of the obama voters were no good well-fare collecting minorities, who want every fucking thing from the goverment,sure obama will give you losers a hand out, but he'll get what he wants in return.

[Rilen]

Who cares about elections? They're all the same.

The real way you vote in a capitalist system is with the dollar. Our country is in the shitter because all we really care about are fighting wars and buying bullshit we see on TV.

[mgellan]

United socialist states of America,NO!
most of the obama voters were no good well-fare collecting minorities, who want every fucking thing from the goverment,sure obama will give you losers a hand out, but he'll get what he wants in return.

Yeah, shit, you don't want to be like a the Socialist Republic of Canuckistan up north, where bankers don't need bailouts, medical care is free (and, in my experience, high quality) and drugs are cheap.

Socialism doesn't work! Except when it does...

Don't worry, God will step in any moment and fix everything, Rick Perry promised!

Regards,
Mg

[Visual]

when is Jesse Ventura gonna run

[Yardcore]

United socialist states of America,NO!
most of the obama voters were no good well-fare collecting minorities, who want every fucking thing from the goverment,sure obama will give you losers a hand out, but he'll get what he wants in return.

LOL :confused: