View Full Version : Why did you come to a classic Everquest pvp server?
Harrison
03-13-2012, 10:22 AM
Just to complain that it is classic Everquest?(closer than anything possible)
Lulz Sect
03-13-2012, 10:34 AM
http://i.imgur.com/X2S8p.png
Ragemaster9999
03-13-2012, 11:43 AM
Just to complain that it is classic Everquest?(closer than anything possible)
Valid point.... HOWEVER... in b4 "harrison is on your ignore list" spam posts.
Albane
03-13-2012, 11:48 AM
There were no good games at the time to that I was interested in. This was the final option for a game to play while I waited for Tera, Diablo 3, and GW2.
Chett
03-13-2012, 12:41 PM
Valid point.... HOWEVER... in b4 "harrison is on your ignore list" spam posts.
Thx for Quoting Harrison. At least i know now, why he is on Ignore.
This Server is classic - and Horseshit looks like a beauty Pearl.
If u mean, that we play the first available Content, Pre Kunark. Antonica, Faydwer, Odus - yea thats classic. If u mean Rubi and Guise, yea thats classic also.
Beside that, almost every important Part, especially Game-Mechanics, are miles away from classic. This Server can only be called (if you are a positive thinking human being) "Classic Mix with some Serverowner Spice."
Best is, that i realized, that most of the guys, who talking bout classic EQ PvP Server, have absolutely no clue what they are talking bout, because they didint play on Rallos Zek back in '99.
I would prefer, if most of you guys from Blue, New, or whereever u crawl out and started your first Toon on TZ, VZ, or Disney Land, years after the Hardcore PvP'ers of RZ already left and moved on to new Challenges, just stfu.
A few Words to the Staff in respect.
I would give the Community a chance and throw in at least OOC. Let us show you, the Staff, that we can handle things on our own and not abusing what you, the gods, gave us - amen. A lil bit more attention in many different ways would also be helpful.
Thx.
Harrison
03-13-2012, 01:00 PM
Thx for Quoting Harrison. At least i know now, why he is on Ignore.
This Server is classic - and Horseshit looks like a beauty Pearl.
If u mean, that we play the first available Content, Pre Kunark. Antonica, Faydwer, Odus - yea thats classic. If u mean Rubi and Guise, yea thats classic also.
Beside that, almost every important Part, especially Game-Mechanics, are miles away from classic. This Server can only be called (if you are a positive thinking human being) "Classic Mix with some Serverowner Spice."
Best is, that i realized, that most of the guys, who talking bout classic EQ PvP Server, have absolutely no clue what they are talking bout, because they didint play on Rallos Zek back in '99.
I would prefer, if most of you guys from Blue, New, or whereever u crawl out and started your first Toon on TZ, VZ, or Disney Land, years after the Hardcore PvP'ers of RZ already left and moved on to new Challenges, just stfu.
A few Words to the Staff in respect.
I would give the Community a chance and throw in at least OOC. Let us show you, the Staff, that we can handle things on our own and not abusing what you, the gods, gave us - amen. A lil bit more attention in many different ways would also be helpful.
Thx.
I know reading is hard and all...
Just to complain that it is classic Everquest?(closer than anything possible)
They are doing better than anyone out there, period. What is classic that they are able, capable, and ALLOWED to make classic is made classic when they get to it. (Obvious exploits, etc. not kept or reverted intentionally when possible as well.)
Harrison
03-13-2012, 01:06 PM
i came here because i love EQ and i like the earlier era's , pre kunark kinda sucks , and pre luclin theres no real progression but i wanted to pvp and clear plane of sky at 50 honestly
things just didnt work out tho
You fucking got caught cheating both in beta(exploiting the dynamic range on purpose) and on live(caught on video exploiting). You can't blame the server for your own stupidity.
Within99
03-13-2012, 01:43 PM
Free
SearyxTZ
03-13-2012, 02:39 PM
Harrison can you stop pretending like you have any care whatsoever for the overall health of this server? (or the staff)
Thanks. It's really transparent and obvious that you don't. We haven't forgotten you're the same stupid angry poster who openly trolled and antagonized the red server community even before this box existed. We also haven't forgotten that you don't even play here.
How many posters have you ignored now? Think you're up over 50% yet?
Harrison
03-13-2012, 04:11 PM
Answer the question.
Why do you come to a server titled, Classic Everquest PVP, and then cry that it's Classic Everquest?
It's pretty straightforward.
Why did you come here? Do you even play red? Word on the street is you quit at lvl 11 or something?
Harrison
03-13-2012, 04:23 PM
Word on the street is worthless. Word on the street says I'm a fat 30 year-old virgin who cuts meat in a deli.
I had to view your post... but yea... aren't you a fat 30 year old virgin who cuts meat in a deli?
If you play red, please do tell... you've been crusading these forums forever.. maybe people would take you slightly more seriously if they knew you played. I doubt you do though.. I don't play this shit box myself...
Harrison
03-13-2012, 04:34 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RfRNO2LjR04/Tg1_w8z-5gI/AAAAAAAADPY/4535DK07tYw/s400/tootsieowl.jpg
Lol irrelevance
Why do you complain about the server retaining classic mechanics to the best of the developers' abilities, when it was always said that it was going to be classic?
I really don't complain about shit cause I don't play here. Only thing I am on record for is whining about XP being brutal...
As far as the community sees it, you're a fat 30 year old virgin, who cuts meat in a deli and goes on forum crusades regarding a server you don't even play on. Sounds like the word on the street is golden.
And that's the last of my replies to you big dawg.
SearyxTZ
03-13-2012, 05:33 PM
Answer the question.
Why do you come to a server titled, Classic Everquest PVP, and then cry that it's Classic Everquest?
Because it's not quite the classic experience, so people drop constructive feedback to get it all the way there.
The resist system for example, is not classic. We had a discussion about it ("crying"), and Null is going to tweak it. See how well that works?
Active OOC and auction is also classic, which is why people* make threads about adjusting the channels so that they actually get used.
*People that actually play on the server.
bakkily
03-13-2012, 05:50 PM
i came to p99 due to it being classic and the most back in the classic days i did was lvl'd a paladin to 21 and only visited/xp'd in a few zones, bb, great fay, cb, i would take the boat across oot often, and the commons, nro, and oasis, the only zones that char saw, and had a halfing rog i lvld to 10 in misty/re
Marglar
03-13-2012, 05:57 PM
to play classic everquest (which I am doing and enjoying)
my turn -
why do you troll our forums?
Angkar
03-13-2012, 06:02 PM
why do you troll our forums?
Should just let Harrison type up a manifesto, and sticky it in RnF, then ban him.
Thats fair imo.
Harrison
03-13-2012, 06:04 PM
Because it's not quite the classic experience, so people drop constructive feedback to get it all the way there.
The resist system for example, is not classic. We had a discussion about it ("crying"), and Null is going to tweak it. See how well that works?
Active OOC and auction is also classic, which is why people* make threads about adjusting the channels so that they actually get used.
*People that actually play on the server.
Skillful dodge, I must say that I am impressed.
You made it seem like asking for serverwide OOC wasn't what it was and something else entirely while throwing in something that I didn't even comment on. Bravo.
I'm talking directly to the "we need soulbinders, faster experience, yellow text, global ooc, and leaderboards" crowd. Not legitimate gripes such as resists not being balanced.
HappyTr33z
03-13-2012, 06:19 PM
What I want to know is why everyone acts like Harrison is so out of line to be saying cheaters deserve punishment. Every one of his posts I've seen (the recent ones ofcourse) are him A.) Defending himself against like 90 different dudes who all say the same thing over and over. and B.) Saying they should stop letting people cheat.
Nobody can give him a comeback that actually has something to do with the topic. They just make stupid remarks, am I the only one seeing this?
Harrison
03-13-2012, 06:23 PM
You're on the outside of their vztz clique. You see things as they are without the tint of their faggot-colored glasses.
They go from server to server as they die, cheating, griefing, and screaming for things like petulant children until the server folds. This is what they do.
They don't give a fuck about the server, the project's goals, the staff donating their time to provide the server FOR FREE, none of it. They want things their way. No rules, no repercussions for their actions, and you're going to hear them cry at the top of their lungs until they get it. Of course, they never do, so the server dies as they drive it into the ground while pretending to want things to help it.
loserofgame
03-13-2012, 06:25 PM
What I want to know is why everyone acts like Harrison is so out of line to be saying cheaters deserve punishment. Every one of his posts I've seen (the recent ones ofcourse) are him A.) Defending himself against like 90 different dudes who all say the same thing over and over. and B.) Saying they should stop letting people cheat.
Nobody can give him a comeback that actually has something to do with the topic. They just make stupid remarks, am I the only one seeing this?
It's hard to reply to someone when you have them on ignore.
Not that there's anything wrong with bringing people who cheat to justice, it's just that when it has been reiterated in the hundreds of times without any new information to say or other facts/solutions to contribute, it becomes redundant, and detrimental to server communication. I registered on these forums at first for the sole purpose of having an ignore list to put Harrison on, because after reading a month of his posts I became quite ill from them.
It's like injecting a dead horse with cyanide, because your beat-stick is broken.
HappyTr33z
03-13-2012, 06:32 PM
That's a real bummer man, you get those kinds of guys with any game tho. Real life social mental and physical abuse gets let out behind the guise of their computer. But anyway, I'm gonna go back to lurking. Give em hell.
loserofgame
03-13-2012, 06:36 PM
But anyway, I'm gonna go back to lurking.
Safest place to be, really.
HappyTr33z
03-13-2012, 06:42 PM
It's hard to reply to someone when you have them on ignore.
Not that there's anything wrong with bringing people who cheat to justice, it's just that when it has been reiterated in the hundreds of times without any new information to say or other facts/solutions to contribute, it becomes redundant, and detrimental to server communication. I registered on these forums at first for the sole purpose of having an ignore list to put Harrison on, because after reading a month of his posts I became quite ill from them.
It's like injecting a dead horse with cyanide, because your beat-stick is broken.
Well I can understand where you're coming from, forum spam is never a good thing. But I mean, he's just about the only dude who wants something done around here. I can understand his frustration especially on a server where players directly compete with eachother. Maybe instead of saying Harrison should stop talking about it, the problem could be solved leaving nothing for Harrison to talk about? Would probably get some new players that enjoy an even playing field, which I'm sure is just about every one. 'less dey aint got no game nahmean?
Now I'm really going back to lurking. haha
loserofgame
03-13-2012, 07:02 PM
Well I can understand where you're coming from, forum spam is never a good thing. But I mean, he's just about the only dude who wants something done around here, especially on a server where players directly compete with eachother. Maybe instead of saying Harrison should stop talking about it, the problem could be solved leaving nothing for Harrison to talk about? Would probably get some new players that enjoy an even playing field, which I'm sure is just about every one. 'less dey aint got no game nahmean?
Now I'm really going back to lurking. haha
I am absolutely certain that the staff is very well aware of Harrison's viewpoint on how red99 should be policed. I am sure that all of the staff, and the vast majority of players, are in agreement with his suggestion that people who cheat should be punished.
If it were as simple as that, I doubt many people would have much problem with him. Unfortunately, he is very concerned with labeling certain guilds and communities of players as entirely detrimental to the server, due to some members within those groups having broken the rules in the past(most of whom have already been punished for said actions).
I disagree strongly with Harrison's suggestion that all players from Nihilum, Holocaust, and VZTZ are cheating rejects. Despite the tensions between players of opposing guilds, the players currently on red99 are generally good people, helpful players, and would like to see the server succeed.
It's not a matter of asking Harrison to 'stop talking about it', in your words. It would be more akin to asking him to 'talk constructively about issues, and take ideas up with people who are in positions to make change.'
However, after reading his posts for several weeks and seeing much more negativity from him than anything positive(he does occasionally say constructive things, but the bad far outweighs the good), I decided to put him on ignore. Less patient people put him on ignore far earlier.
And of course, by antagonizing large sections of the server community, Harrison brought upon himself the kind of trolling which now clutters the forums, and which you rightfully point out.
As for your last point, the 'playing field' of the server is kept even to a reasonable degree thanks to the efforts of the P99 staff. It's not a perfect system, but it functions. (edit: although, there are certainly some things that could use some work.)
HappyTr33z
03-13-2012, 07:15 PM
Right on man, that's the kind of response I was wanting. Well I hope you guys get it all sorted out, might make a char on here one day. Peace.
oldfish
03-13-2012, 07:34 PM
and you're going to hear them cry at the top of their lungs until they get it. Of course, they never do, so the server dies as they drive it into the ground while pretending to want things to help it.
Thats a pretty accurate description of the drift of your posts on these forums
Truth
03-13-2012, 07:37 PM
ban OP for posting in wrong section
Truth
03-13-2012, 07:41 PM
I registered on these forums at first for the sole purpose of having an ignore list to put Harrison on, because after reading a month of his posts I became quite ill from them.
It's like injecting a dead horse with cyanide, because your beat-stick is broken.
lol
Harrison
03-13-2012, 08:01 PM
Thats a pretty accurate description of the drift of your posts on these forums
This player wants training allowed.
'nuff said.
Lulz Sect
03-13-2012, 08:19 PM
HappyTr33z HappyTr33z is online now
Skeleton
Join Date: Mar 2012
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FUCK YOU *****
Mornin3.0
03-13-2012, 08:23 PM
I came to troll.
Truth
03-13-2012, 08:30 PM
came for the yellow text and ooc shit talk
Lulz Sect
03-13-2012, 08:32 PM
I came to troll.
Nirgon
03-13-2012, 08:51 PM
Valid point.... HOWEVER... in b4 "harrison is on your ignore list" spam posts.
Ignored for quoting Harrison
Snufz
03-13-2012, 09:29 PM
This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list.
Not_Kazowi
03-14-2012, 12:34 AM
Because a classic system on a server in 2012 is not going to work the same as it did in 2000. Things like Global OOC, Yellow Text and increased experience rate help bridge the gap that is created when a server population is small and shrinking. Pretty simple really.
Not_Kazowi
03-14-2012, 12:38 AM
so the server dies as they drive it into the ground while pretending to want things to help it
So now the server demise is because of "vztzers" I mean you sound pretty paranoid.
I played for 2 days, and quit because i did not have time to devote. I have kept up with the boards over the past 4 months since i stopped playing. The whole thing is going downhill because it is catered to a much too small niche group of players. I mean I am all about classic, but realistically things that open the sense of community like OOC should be put in. It would bring me back, along with an experience boost. It would bring a lot of players back, which is a good thing.
inb4 you're rexx
inb4 vztz sucks, fuck you, die slow
Truth
03-14-2012, 12:39 AM
THE EMPEROR HATH SPOKEN
Lovely Icecomet
03-14-2012, 12:41 AM
Because a classic system on a server in 2012 is not going to work the same as it did in 2000. Things like Global OOC, Yellow Text and increased experience rate help bridge the gap that is created when a server population is small and shrinking. Pretty simple really.
Lovely Icecomet
03-14-2012, 12:42 AM
inb4 vztz sucks, fuck you, die slow
careful son ***** gonna call FBI ON YOU
THE EMPEROR HATH SPOKEN
I AM BOWING DOWN.
LAY DOWN THE BATTLE AXE EMPEROR. I WILL FOLLOW YOU INTO ANY PLANE.........
Nirgon
03-14-2012, 11:13 AM
I don't always play classic pvp servers
but when I do I make it to level 10 with 1000% xp and rage quit.
-> guilded with known trainer + exploiter, Abacab.
/who all grindcore doesn't seem to be working either.
Harrison
03-14-2012, 11:27 AM
Busy with two jobs during the busiest part of the year in my trade. (holidays)
I played for 2 days, and quit because i did not have time to devote.
You all cheer for joy when he did the exact same thing.
hagard
03-14-2012, 01:55 PM
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9844/37475279.png
he he
Not_Kazowi
03-14-2012, 03:46 PM
Harrison stop derailing the thread that you started? Fact of the matter is, things like OOC aren't a big deal, but have great influence on bringing people back.
Smedy
03-14-2012, 03:50 PM
global ooc + yellow text still has the power to save this forsaken box, with time we shall get rogean to see the light
hail emperor rexx
Harrison
03-14-2012, 03:58 PM
Global ooc and yellow text are red herrings. IRC and /lfg tool
Vermouth
03-14-2012, 04:15 PM
DELETE THIS THREAD.
BAN HARRISON.
Sincerely,
Everyone.
Dullah
03-14-2012, 05:13 PM
A few Words to the Staff in respect.
I would give the Community a chance and throw in at least OOC. Let us show you, the Staff, that we can handle things on our own and not abusing what you, the gods, gave us - amen...
Thx.
Youre obviously new here. Have you not read enough crap on the forums, heard enough raging spamming and crying in shout, or seen IRC? Regardless of what trolls spam the forums with, the average player does not want crap like this forced on the general population via global ooc. Rogean would have to have the IQ of a houseplant to put it in and shit up his server.
Beastro
03-14-2012, 05:30 PM
This thread numbs the brain jelly.
Dullah
03-14-2012, 05:30 PM
What I want to know is why everyone acts like Harrison is so out of line to be saying cheaters deserve punishment. Every one of his posts I've seen (the recent ones ofcourse) are him A.) Defending himself against like 90 different dudes who all say the same thing over and over. and B.) Saying they should stop letting people cheat.
Nobody can give him a comeback that actually has something to do with the topic. They just make stupid remarks, am I the only one seeing this?
Hes a troll. I don't cheat or exploit, nor have I ever used 3rd party EQ apps, but he's called me a cheater. In fact, I've seen him try to lump basically the entire server into some sort of cheater faction whether or not they were a member of any particular guild during a time they exploited bugged content.
Its just moot. People exploited, it happened, its over. It holds no bearing whatsoever upon the server today. Daily he continues to try to run off potential players with his rants and misinformation, portraying small incidents in the past as being some overwhelming problem as if cheating is rampant. Its been handled and the GMs are doing a lot of work to continue providing a legit Everquest experience. He has serious issues and he is, for some unforeseen reason, completely obsessed with projecting rage and animosity from his personal life on r99, the forums and its playerbase.
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