Can't talk shit about the staff?

[Salty]

Attack or talk shit about the staff.

This is 100% retarded nazi shit.

One of the reasons why people don't take you seriously and call the staff "Mall Cops."

[Salty]

Obama gonna ban you from America for calling him Muslim.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Diggles]

comparing a video game emulator to american govt?

salty gone off deep end

[Salty]

Speech is speech nucka

[Flunklesnarkin]

Their server their rules.. don't like it go make your own.


It's a game.... just move on if you don't think you can live with yourself playing on this server.

[Harrison]

Salty is a whiny self entitled faggot.

[Diggles]

yeah salty what happened to your own eq project?

[Harrison]

It was fish baited.

[Diggles]

This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list (http://www.project1999.org/forums/profile.php?do=addlist&userlist=ignore&u=7808).

[Sirken]

This is 100% retarded nazi shit.

One of the reasons why people don't take you seriously and call the staff "Mall Cops."

your right. the people that provide you with free entertainment in the form of a game as well as these forums do not feel like they should also have to deal with people whining crying or bitching at them.

obviously nazis

if you dont like it, leave.

if you can't play with out talking shit about the staff, leave

nobody is saying you have to like the the staff. we're just saying we are done listening to the negative. if u have a problem send a pm.

if u just want to stir up trouble for the project, we don't want you here.

the end

[Lulz Sect]

http://i.imgur.com/fIo6z.jpg

[jibekn]

your right. the people that provide you with free entertainment in the form of a game as well as these forums do not feel like they should also have to deal with people whining crying or bitching at them.

obviously nazis

if you dont like it, leave.

if you can't play with out talking shit about the staff, leave

nobody is saying you have to like the the staff. we're just saying we are done listening to the negative. if u have a problem send a pm.

if u just want to stir up trouble for the project, we don't want you here.

the end

Why do you even provide a free server and put your time and effort into something if you get nothing in return and its so bad that you have to make a post saying if you talk bad about us we gonna ban you. I cant logically think of an answer, if i were in charge i would have shut this server down a long time ago if this is what its turning into.

I don't have anything negative to say to you guys, but i'm all for freedom of speech. i do a lot in game here on p99, but to be honest, most of my fun comes from the forums...

[Amelinda]

Salty obviously never read Nilbog's rules for the forums as a whole:


Stupid posts, lies, and drama are scaring away new players.

Just imagine if the first place they stop is the webpage?

Forums will be moderated.

Your posts will be moved or deleted if they are not in the correct section.

This first installment regards personal attacks.

Do not make non-consensual personal attacks against anyone affiliated with this project. (Some of you like fighting with each other; I have no problem with this. Do it privately.) If you feel it is necessary to make a post, make sure it is contained within Rants and Flames. NEVER make a personal attack against a developer or GM staff, or you will be suspended. The GMs will follow the same non-personal attack policy. Its my job to protect both the GMs as well as the players. Play nice. Comment on content, not on the contributor. Personal attacks do not help make a point; they only hurt the community and deter users from helping to create a great classic server. Derogatory comments about another user may be removed by any editor. Repeated or egregious personal attacks will lead to suspensions and bans.

If you are more of a nuisance than what you're worth, your forum privileges will be revoked.



So you see. Staff insult / staff attack isn't my rule, but it's a damn fine rule and if it didn't exist, I am confident either Sirken or I would create it.

[Marglar]

it's unfortunate that it isn't enforced and that the forum is constantly trolled and bombarded with posts that probably scares away new players.

[Salty]

yeah salty what happened to your own eq project?

Can you read my sig

[oldfish]

Theres a difference between debating rules and decisions and calling staff stuff like "idiots and morons".

If you really are pushing for this, and calling it censorship, i dont think you care about the health of the server cuz forums are already a fucking cesspool enough as it is.

Im not sure what % of the population thinks "HAHA! hes wheelchair bound" is funny, and would be a community incentive to play here, but im willing to be that is a small percentage.

[oldfish]

to bet

[korzax]

This is 100% retarded nazi shit.

One of the reasons why people don't take you seriously and call the staff "Mall Cops."

You're the only one disrespecting the staff. Hopefully the ban hammer will come down hard on your gimpy ass.

[Salty]

what % of the population thinks "HAHA! hes wheelchair bound" is funny

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jDXJkYXZZpk/TdncS7V8OcI/AAAAAAAAB4w/mPgeJa3rhww/s400/hand_raising.jpg

[korzax]

^^^

BAN HIM

[Supreme]

Salty is on your team Korzax. He hates everything Nihilum including Supreme.

Start humping his leg now while you are under 50 posts.

[Salty]

This message is hidden because korzax is on your ignore list.

[jibekn]

why? let me tell you why, because some people (clearly not you or salty) are actually ....(wait for it).... GRATEFUL to have this server to play on. SOME people really and truly appreciate all the effort that the staff has put forth to provide them with endless hours of free entertainment.

i know this is going to shock you, but people like you and salty that do not understand why these rules exist are not the majority. the majority of players here are not even effected because they have to much class and respect to act like a disrespectful little bitch when dealing with the staff.

you always can share your side of a story in a polite and respectful fashion, that does not mean bashing the project or the staff on the forums or in game.

and as i said in my earlier post. if you can not play the game while maintaining a level of respect for the staff, then simply leave because we don't want you here, and you obviously can not have fun as these power tripping staff members are only here to ruin your immersion.

nobody forces you to play here. everyone that plays here is doing so because THEY WANT to play here. if you think the staff is being unfair censoring nazis', then please let me remind you that you can leave at any time you want to.

<3
Sirks

interesting viewpoint you have of me, and a very entertaining rant. You made a very aggressive response to a fairly neutral question. you may take EQ a bit too seriously if you let anonymous kids opinions of you on some forums about a computer game affect you so strongly. People talk a lot of shit about me on the forums, but i just laugh at it, i mean its usually pretty damn funny. Bkab even posted fake photo's of me trying to demean me, which is under the new rules of a bannable offense. I didnt think it was a very big deal, in fact I got a good belly laugh out of it. It makes me sad that other people in the future might not get the chance to experience and laugh at which I once did in my p99 experience.

In my experience in life, people usually don't talk bad about people unless they have a legitimate reason to, usually. So if you guys are doing nothing wrong, i don't see why its such a big deal. I mean, you have made it clear to me that you think its a big deal, but i just don't agree with you that it is in fact, a big deal. You're starting to make me think you guys have something to hide.

[Salty]

interesting viewpoint you have of me, and a very entertaining rant. You made a very aggressive response to a fairly neutral question. you may take EQ a bit too seriously if you let anonymous kids opinions of you on some forums about a computer game affect you so strongly. People talk a lot of shit about me on the forums, but i just laugh at it, i mean its usually pretty damn funny. Bkab even posted fake photo's of me trying to demean me, which is under the new rules of a bannable offense. I didnt think it was a very big deal, in fact I got a good belly laugh out of it. It makes me sad that other people in the future might not get the chance to experience and laugh at which I once did in my p99 experience.

In my experience in life, people usually don't talk bad about people unless they have a legitimate reason to, usually. So if you guys are doing nothing wrong, i don't see why its such a big deal. I mean, you have made it clear to me that you think its a big deal, but i just don't agree with you that it is in fact, a big deal. You're starting to make me think you guys have something to hide.

[Supreme]

interesting viewpoint you have of me, and a very entertaining rant. You made a very aggressive response to a fairly neutral question. you may take EQ a bit too seriously if you let anonymous kids opinions of you on some forums about a computer game affect you so strongly. People talk a lot of shit about me on the forums, but i just laugh at it, i mean its usually pretty damn funny. Bkab even posted fake photo's of me trying to demean me, which is under the new rules of a bannable offense. I didnt think it was a very big deal, in fact I got a good belly laugh out of it. It makes me sad that other people in the future might not get the chance to experience and laugh at which I once did in my p99 experience.

In my experience in life, people usually don't talk bad about people unless they have a legitimate reason to, usually. So if you guys are doing nothing wrong, i don't see why its such a big deal. I mean, you have made it clear to me that you think its a big deal, but i just don't agree with you that it is in fact, a big deal. You're starting to make me think you guys have something to hide.

if it doesnt matter to you then post your RL pictures of you and your family.

[Salty]

I have

[fiegi]

blue server

blue forums

[jibekn]

if it doesnt matter to you then post your RL pictures of you and your family.

already did

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62068

[quido]

salty pro texture mapper

[Muaar]

i would censor people pointing out how bad i am at my job too if i worked in some twilight zone of incompetence

[Flunklesnarkin]

i would censor people pointing out how bad i am at my job too if i worked in some twilight zone of incompetence

This is where i think you are confused lol


It's not a job for them... it's more of a hobby

[Amelinda]

This is where i think you are confused lol
It's not a job for them... it's more of a hobby

Yeah. this is my hobby. I don't get paid for this. none of us do.

If this were a job that I were paid for then I might let you talk a little shit to me.

If it were a service that you paid for then I might be willing to put up with a lil more....

I mean, most of what is said makes me laugh at how stupid people are anyway. like, how ANGRY they get at themselves over their own behavior then they lash out at the person who steps in and says "Hey buddy. You screwed up."

Examples of why I put up with as little as I do:

Caught someone 2-boxing. banned both characters:
[21:12] [Thu Feb 02 21:02:27 2012] Duskend tells you, 'hey'
[21:12] [Thu Feb 02 21:02:32 2012] Duskend tells you, 'you banned my friend'
[21:12] [Thu Feb 02 21:02:45 2012] Duskend tells you, 'i just wanted to tell you that you are a dirty scum fucking piece of shit'
[21:12] [Thu Feb 02 21:02:51 2012] Duskend tells you, 'and I will find you'
[21:12] [Thu Feb 02 21:02:58 2012] Duskend tells you, 'and skull fuck the shit out of your rotten corpse'
[21:12] [Thu Feb 02 21:03:03 2012] Duskend tells you, '******.'
[21:12] [Thu Feb 02 21:03:13 2012] Duskend tells you, 'suck my dick, wat now?'
[21:12] [Thu Feb 02 21:03:19 2012] Duskend tells you, '****** ****** ******'

This guy was banned for something, proceeded to spam the shit out of the message boards as "Unbann me". He trained crushbone earlier this week as Rimmy, then i was in East Commons today afk and i alt-tab back to this:

[Mon Mar 12 11:35:36 2012] Awesomex shouts, 'amelinda is a stupid cunt that has a sputtering pussy that sounds like the propeller of a boat because of the power trip she is getting on this shitty ass game, her pussy shits out kids like a disgusting squirming bottom feeding octupous with her filthy hispanic husband who mistreats her and who insists on pissing on face and slapping her during sex, that filthy cunt thinks she is the master of everything and just bans people for no reason because the bitch is mad that her vagina looks lik groundbeef'

Not just 1 instance of that. it was spammed AT LEAST 60 times in east commons shout on the blue server.

And for some reason every time one of these people who are prone to be loudmouths gets mad...it comes back to my pussy. EVERY TIME. Which I think speaks volumes about your own self esteem :)

I'm drunk with power, I"m power tripping, i'm stupid, i'm worthless, i'm a whore, i'm a virgin, i'm a bitch.

I get tells and private messages like the above every single day. I already hear this bullshit privately, it doesn't particularly bother me. What the fuck do I care what some idiot on the internet thinks about me? I don't. I DO care what some idiot on the internet posts about this staff though. It's a simple rule really.

I fail to see why you people are crying like abused children.

suck it up buttercup.

[Lulz Sect]

http://i.imgur.com/w3UKw.png

[Salty]

http://i.imgur.com/w3UKw.png

[heartbrand]

As long as rule is not used every time a legit disagreement with a guide takes place seems 100% logical

[jdklaw]

stop bitching, trolling, and stirring shit up on a forum of a game u dont play retard

[Zallar]

Please add my vote for just ban Salty.

[Beastro]

I don't mind and expect such a rule, even on a ruleless sub-furm.

What I greatly resent is the two other points:

2. Post non-p1999 posted RL Pics of other players. SO until a player has posted a RL picture of them or their family on the p99 boards then their photographs had better NOT show up in photoshops or ANY form on these boards.

3. Make Tasteless RL attacks. (Staff discretion)

This greatly limits the ability of the community to smacktalk and create entertaining drama.

[korzax]

Salty is on your team Korzax. He hates everything Nihilum including Supreme.

Start humping his leg now while you are under 50 posts.

I don't hate Nihilum, just you. Huge difference.

[Flowz]

How u can even make an attempt to instult staff that that just retarded, this shit is free, if u have a problem with their decision PM someone. I'd like to see u call your boss a cuntbag cockholster cum dumpster after he tells u, u gotta work thought lunch or he wants those papers done by the end of the day. Try it one time see if u still got a job. If u dont like their rules on their forums. Theres only 1 thing to say here and im pretty sure u know what it is.

[tehruoh]

http://i.qkme.me/36kp3r.jpg

[Nirgon]

Thread was not lucked. Lulz ensued.

[Nirgon]

While we're rule lawyering, what's the rule against bumping a thread created before the rule that may inadvertently break one of the rules? Do you ban the bumper or the poster of the message here?

/flex

[STRAY]

Harassment and threats aside...Nobody should be protected from the shit-talk, including staff.

P99 staff isn't your employer, so you ain't gonna get fired buddy.

[Lazortag]

This only became a problem with red players who on average have about 30-40 less IQ than blue players. Red players will post things that are stupid and inflammatory and repeat themselves over and over again no matter how much evidence they're confronted with. Just look at what Kelgar posted in a recent bug thread:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57246&page=3

I feel like you have never played a bard, and have no clue what you are talking about based on your comments about this known fact. If you want to fuck up an entire class based off of your own ignorance, ego, and unwillingness to research before opening your mouth, then go ahead, otherwise, figure your shit out and fix it.

This was directed at Kanras (a dev), and, in addition to being completely rude, Kelgar was 100% wrong about what he was saying. No matter how many times he was proven wrong, he kept on repeating himself and ignoring the evidence. Literally not a single player on the blue server is this dumb (except maybe Hasbinbad).

The problem is that the red server has probably a hundred players just like this who are presumptuous, narcissistic, illiterate assholes who immediately jump the gun and bash the staff before even trying to be calm and diplomatic first, and when they're called out on their bullshit, they either (a) ignore you, (b) strawman everything you say or (c) call you a "fag". You have guilds like Holo who will wave their hands in the air and cry that the server is ruined one day, and then complain about the staff not recovering their corpses (that rotted because they ragequit) fast enough the next day*. When you act like an ungrateful douchebag you lose your ability to demand things from the people you're acting like a douchebag towards. So instead of thinking of the rule against bashing the staff as an affront to your free speech or a rights violation, think of it as a guideline for how you can resolve your disputes with the staff more easily and get what you want.

*(this is just a made-up example, I don't think holo actually did this)

[loserofgame]

*(this is just a made-up example, I don't think holo actually did this)

You make a very sensible post, but you're in danger of losing your claim to neutrality lately. :P (does not detract from your ideas)

A couple comments:

Some people will always act belligerent, but the reason why that belligerence becomes more widespread is because of the perception of bias.

The perception of bias exists because the ideology of the server staff more closely aligns with one set of players, and differs from the ideology of another set of players.

As for the quality of character among players of one server versus another, I would say that the biggest reason there is so much animosity towards the staff here(and thus the perception of rudeness) is that this type of server attracts the most lawless, and has too many laws for their liking.

[jdklaw]

Harassment and threats aside...Nobody should be protected from the shit-talk, including staff.

P99 staff isn't your employer, so you ain't gonna get fired buddy.

Theres a difference between healthy fun shittalking on a free to play game that most of us love to play since it has so much nostalgia involved, and obviously overboard, crossing-the-limits flaming.

Amelinda's examples are what is overboard.

[Amelinda]

Some people will always act belligerent, but the reason why that belligerence becomes more widespread is because of the perception of bias.

The perception of bias exists because the ideology of the server staff more closely aligns with one set of players, and differs from the ideology of another set of players.

I've really come to the conclusion that this perception exists because people are just cry babies. they PERCEIVE bias but it's ridiculous.

I can see our ban forum, you can't. I know which guilds i've banned or suspended more people from....yet people still cry.

We don't name & shame here. We don't have a wall of bans or anything like that......SO i guess the perception is that staff leaves one or the other guild alone.

I think a lot of holocaust's animosity towards staff comes from the public announcement of their ban/disband/suspension etc. That was months ago.

Watch this lion king clip: http://youtu.be/dZfGTL2PY3E
Rafiki: *hits Simba on the head*
Simba: OW! Jeez what was that for!?
Rafiki: It doesn't matter, it's in the past.
Simba: Yeah but it still hurts.
Rafiki: Ooooh yes, the past can hurt, but the way I see it, you can either run from it or learn from it.
*Attempts to hit Simba again, Simba ducks*
Rafiki: Ahh you see...


It was in the past. learn from it and move on.

You can't change it. I can't change it. move on. or choose to hold the grudge forever. I don't care. But don't expect me to be kind, caring and understanding when you talk shit to me then try to blame it on PTSD from that incident.

*edit* What the F Rogean? WRU Embed?!

[Diggles]

I see what Amelinda did there... made a lion king reference because Red is full of children...

[jdklaw]

I see what Amelinda did there... made a lion king reference because Holocaust is full of children...

I see what you did, by noting what Amelinda did...

Notice how she also put in a video for them to watch? Because she knows most of Holocaust are illiterate and need dem mooving pikturs,,,

[Amelinda]

I see what you did, by noting what Amelinda did...

Notice how she also put in a video for them to watch? Because she knows most of Holocaust are illiterate and need dem mooving pikturs,,,

Actually, I have two small children so I relate almost everything to cartoons. Every time one of the raid guilds on blue wants to cry about stuff that happened in May 2011....this clip plays in my head. Whenever someone in holocaust cries that Rogean broadcasted that they exploited to the entire server....this clip plays in my head.


I can't decide if it is worse that I use cartoons to explain things in my head or that i secretly wish whenever someone starts bitching about months old slights that I could reach through the internet and punch them then re-enact this scene :P

[Harrison]

Actually, I have two small children so I relate almost everything to cartoons. Every time one of the raid guilds on blue wants to cry about stuff that happened in May 2011....this clip plays in my head. Whenever someone in holocaust cries that Rogean broadcasted that they exploited to the entire server....this clip plays in my head.


I can't decide if it is worse that I use cartoons to explain things in my head or that i secretly wish whenever someone starts bitching about months old slights that I could reach through the internet and punch them then re-enact this scene :P

I know the feeling. :cool:

[Diggles]

I see what you did, by noting what Amelinda did...

Notice how she also put in a video for them to watch? Because she knows most of Holocaust are illiterate and need dem mooving pikturs,,,

dont edit my posts you nilly bastard

[Pitborn]

Yeah. this is my hobby. I don't get paid for this. none of us do.

If this were a job that I were paid for then I might let you talk a little shit to me.

If it were a service that you paid for then I might be willing to put up with a lil more....

I mean, most of what is said makes me laugh at how stupid people are anyway. like, how ANGRY they get at themselves over their own behavior then they lash out at the person who steps in and says "Hey buddy. You screwed up."

Examples of why I put up with as little as I do:

Caught someone 2-boxing. banned both characters:


This guy was banned for something, proceeded to spam the shit out of the message boards as "Unbann me". He trained crushbone earlier this week as Rimmy, then i was in East Commons today afk and i alt-tab back to this:


Not just 1 instance of that. it was spammed AT LEAST 60 times in east commons shout on the blue server.

And for some reason every time one of these people who are prone to be loudmouths gets mad...it comes back to my pussy. EVERY TIME. Which I think speaks volumes about your own self esteem :)

I'm drunk with power, I"m power tripping, i'm stupid, i'm worthless, i'm a whore, i'm a virgin, i'm a bitch.

I get tells and private messages like the above every single day. I already hear this bullshit privately, it doesn't particularly bother me. What the fuck do I care what some idiot on the internet thinks about me? I don't. I DO care what some idiot on the internet posts about this staff though. It's a simple rule really.

I fail to see why you people are crying like abused children.

suck it up buttercup.

It never ceases to amaze me on how we attract the biggest cesspool of cocksuckers to play on EQ PVP Emus.

[loserofgame]

It never ceases to amaze me on how we attract the biggest cesspool of cocksuckers to play on EQ PVP Emus.

Not that I completely disagree with you, but isn't that quote from Blue, not Red?

[Pitborn]

Don't think so .

Blue is only marginally better tho im sure.

[Lulz Sect]

I can't decide if it is worse that I use cartoons to explain things in my head or that i secretly wish whenever someone starts bitching about months old slights that I could reach through the internet and punch them then re-enact this scene :P

http://i.imgur.com/BGsM1.png

[Cwall]

didn't really read this thread

don't have a problem with the staff though

except for guineapig

he's a massive faggot

[jdklaw]

dont edit my posts you nilly bastard

what? you confuse me because I feel like im on the starwars forums as often as you update ur sig/avatar with that bologne

[Nirgon]

Literally not a single player on the blue server is this dumb (except maybe Hasbinbad).



Played on blue / get the fuck out of here.

[jdklaw]

Played on blue / get the fuck out of here.

Nirgon griefed off red went back to blue

[Nirgon]

I think a lot of holocaust's animosity towards staff comes from the public announcement of their ban/disband/suspension etc. That was months ago.


During a period of guild posturing / raid entry period which is critical on a server.

It has much further reaching implications than you might understand. I thought we went over this and you did, but maybe you didn't.

Hey! I'm still gone! Yaaayyy! :cool:

[Nirgon]

Nirgon griefed off red went back to blue

Playing neither bra. GM feel free to confirm pls.

Still waiting for this evidence Supreme said he had that is yet to be delivered.

[jdklaw]

Playing neither bra. GM feel free to confirm pls.

Still waiting for this evidence Supreme said he had that is yet to be delivered.

GM confirm rofl quit being a bitch

[Nirgon]

GM confirm rofl quit being a bitch

Not that having proof changes whether you get trolled or not, but in the eyes of the reasonably thinking here, its nice to have.


Anywho, miss ya'll madly. Not!

[Harrison]

He didn't get griefed off of Red, he got owned by staff off of red.

[Nirgon]

This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list (http://www.project1999.org/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[jdklaw]

Nirgon, Harrison said the following (but im sure you saw it and are only pretending to have him blocked):

He didn't get griefed off of Red, he got owned by staff off of red.

[Buddha]

Proof that you play on blue?

I never said you played on blue..i never knew you until i came to Red.

Still very nice to have met you even though you dont play here anymore..

[Rogean]

Didn't read this thread, but gonna stop it here.

The reason you can't talk shit about the staff is because the staff can't talk shit back due to our policies, not that we should be wasting our time trying to explain ourselves on the forums anyways.

/thread