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Arillious
03-12-2012, 02:21 PM
During the first weeks, the server was thriving. There's obviously people interested. Somehow, we've managed to fuck up everquest pvp. The server is stable and as close to classic as I ever thought possible.
Why have you quit?
Knuckle
03-12-2012, 02:32 PM
Not many have quit, the server spiked with bluebies excited about the pvp server. The small fraction of 'real' players that quit are players like myself who can't do a one box grind on a melee. The new exp boost has me logging back in to get PL'd by a druid. I'm sure i'll play regularly once I hit 50.
Arillious
03-12-2012, 02:43 PM
Not many have quit, the server spiked with bluebies excited about the pvp server. The small fraction of 'real' players that quit are players like myself who can't do a one box grind on a melee. The new exp boost has me logging back in to get PL'd by a druid. I'm sure i'll play regularly once I hit 50.
My guild came into the server with around 7-10 active players with many others interested. We are down to 2 semi active players now.
My biggest issue is the fact that the population continues to go down. I can handle all the other issues. Its extremely hard to put in time on a server that looks to be vacant in a few months.
The lack of GM communication was terrible after the first month and before a month ago. The biggest update was a post from Rogean on page like 50 of 100+ in rants in flames(That took months for them to follow through on). I'll admit that the communication lately has been better(or at least more).
Salty
03-12-2012, 02:48 PM
Shortage of Quality GM's
Missing Commonly Requested Features (Global OOC, LeaderBoard, Yellow Text, etc)
I still Play
Harrison
03-12-2012, 02:50 PM
Lack of punishment for illegitimate players.
Salty
03-12-2012, 02:51 PM
This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list.
aerokella
03-12-2012, 02:55 PM
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Srs Not Ames
03-12-2012, 02:55 PM
A new job + a lack of PvP / No global OOC / No meaningful Population / Only one big zerg guild raiding and only two capable of being in fear has me only playing on the weekends now and really considering quitting for good.
Lulz Sect
03-12-2012, 03:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/X2S8p.png
Slave
03-12-2012, 03:28 PM
I think we all know that the largest chunk of population was lost when guards in towns did not defend players from the beginning of the server. The time it took to patch was a damned unacceptable joke.
There is very little point to playing this server without hardcoded teams. The majority of players don't want to have to join a guild run by some fucking asshole kid to have a chance to get groups and allies, to have a little meaning to our online time.
Salem Orchid
03-12-2012, 03:33 PM
hardcoded teams just isn't the same, you lose to much of the "fear" factor in knowing that anyone can attack you, for what ever reason they see fit. I feel is also waters down the open world pvp feeling. Grab's you by the hand and says "attack these guys because they are the enemy". I like to have the choice of deciding who is and is not my enemy.
Chett
03-12-2012, 03:34 PM
Kids Xploiting Dragons made me Quit for over 2 month, rest is cake. Would like to see OOC, Item Loot, but alreay realized, the Staff gives a shit bout the Community.
Have fun, or move on.
Supreme
03-12-2012, 03:38 PM
The few LOUDEST voices trying to dictate to the MANY which was turned down by staff then followed by MASSIVE negative propoganda and QQing has made population growth stagnant.
However the population of red not being comparable to blue is because of Epics being released 2 weeks after red opened.
I often now see 175-200 on peak hours..which is about 150 real players. Not bad for pre-kunark classic.
Lulz Sect
03-12-2012, 03:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/cKs18.png
need casual game not evergrind
Harrison
03-12-2012, 04:10 PM
Sure doesn't stop you from complaining about and posting a formulaic response to every thread started by the people you obsess over. You cite lack of punishment for people that 'HACKED EVERYTHING TO ALL HELL, I EVEN HEARDZ THEY HACKED ERRONES COMPUTBOXES 2', yet people were banned and loot was taken away.
You keep shouting about how butthurt you are, yet no one gives a shit except you. Which you constantly feel the need to quote yourself.. all the time. Please do us all a favor and eat one.
You sound mad as fuck, kid. I bet you're in one of the two cheater guilds.
Heywood
03-12-2012, 04:10 PM
So I take it right now isn't a good time to start playing brus?
Tassador
03-12-2012, 04:12 PM
i like this game. it is mindless and pointless but atleast here it comes with the extra option to kill someone. dont really care about the people who want to play this 24/7 and expect not to be bored and cry about everything. have fun ladies because calling you men after all this crying would be uncivilized.
Lulz Sect
03-12-2012, 04:12 PM
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr6sneMHwN1r2wjxao1_500.jpg
tekniq
03-12-2012, 04:47 PM
i quit because my friend's stopped playing, so the grind+exploring solo makes me a prime target to get ganked, though I do log in time-to-time just to gank someone then log off ^^
Vladigan
03-12-2012, 05:09 PM
Here is my observation from the beginning....
A sum up of forums from the beginning of red99:
(A typical blue forum post) "Hi all, welcome to the server. Enjoy your time in Norrath. PST to blah if you ever need help
(A typical red forum post) "You bluebies suck, get off our server, go back to blue, blah blah blah)
Now fast forward to present....
(A typical blue forum post) "Hi all, welcome to the server. Enjoy your time in Norrath. PST to blah if you ever need help
(A typical red forum post) "Where is everyone at? What happened to our population, we need exp bonus, global chat, anything to get blubies to come back.....
<Insert random troll response from Harrison>
20-30 replies of "This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list."
Conclusion:
The Red Player base has gotten exactly what it wanted and what I warned it would have from the beginning... the same 100 assholes bitching back and forth at each other.... Anything that is done to revive the server at this point is going to be too little too late, sorry guys. I wanted to believe in a resurrection, but its not going to happen.
For the future, I hope everyone learns that PvP needs to have a certain degree of "honor" in it. Also, be careful what you wish for, because you may get it. Enjoy the Red, I am going to to enjoy the community in blue! Ok bye bye now.....
Darwoth
03-12-2012, 05:14 PM
lack of attention, lack of server specific features, meddling GM staff and the fact that i have already killed pretty much everyone on the server worth killing multiple times.
another huge one for me is the carebear demeanor of the server, we still dont have a set of rules but amelinda is eager to swoop in doling out suspensions for a multitude of activitis that should be legal (training, ninjalooting, tradeganking)
since players lose absolutely nothing when you kill them unlike classic, and the option to create scenarios where you could actually get one over on your enemies (ninjalooting, tradeganking) has been deemed unacceptable in addition to the low playerbase and other issues i have mostly lost interest in the server
if i wanted watered down zero consequence pvp and GM meddling/hadholding i would fire up a wow emulator or something with vastly greater population and not spend 15 minutes out of every 60 buffing/medding.
fiegi
03-12-2012, 05:19 PM
lack of attention, lack of server specific features, meddling GM staff and the fact that i have already killed pretty much everyone on the server worth killing multiple times.
another huge one for me is the carebear demeanor of the server, we still dont have a set of rules but amelinda is eager to swoop in doling out suspensions for a multitude of activitis that should be legal (training, ninjalooting, tradeganking)
since players lose absolutely nothing when you kill them unlike classic, and the option to create scenarios where you could actually get one over on your enemies (ninjalooting, tradeganking) has been deemed unacceptable in addition to the low playerbase and other issues i have mostly lost interest in the server
if i wanted watered down zero consequence pvp and GM meddling/hadholding i would fire up a wow emulator or something with vastly greater population and not spend 15 minutes out of every 60 buffing/medding.
Salty
03-12-2012, 05:34 PM
The Red Player base has gotten exactly what it wanted
Bullshit
Flunklesnarkin
03-12-2012, 05:35 PM
I don't think a friendlier player base would help
its a pvp server.. people are going to be dicks
what they need is a way for gear / grind (you know all the PvE stuff) be less of a requirement to PvP
I think full loot takes care of the gear requirement.. somebody can't just buy best gear in game then reign supreme for ever.
exp boost would be nice also.
Salty
03-12-2012, 05:36 PM
lack of attention, lack of server specific features, meddling GM staff and the fact that i have already killed pretty much everyone on the server worth killing multiple times.
another huge one for me is the carebear demeanor of the server, we still dont have a set of rules but amelinda is eager to swoop in doling out suspensions for a multitude of activitis that should be legal (training, ninjalooting, tradeganking)
since players lose absolutely nothing when you kill them unlike classic, and the option to create scenarios where you could actually get one over on your enemies (ninjalooting, tradeganking) has been deemed unacceptable in addition to the low playerbase and other issues i have mostly lost interest in the server
if i wanted watered down zero consequence pvp and GM meddling/hadholding i would fire up a wow emulator or something with vastly greater population and not spend 15 minutes out of every 60 buffing/medding.
Lulz Sect
03-12-2012, 05:57 PM
I think full loot takes care of the gear requirement.. somebody can't just buy best gear in game then reign supreme for ever.
Marglar
03-12-2012, 06:06 PM
I think it's funny how divided opinions are and how everyone wants every which rule tweaked to the way they like it.
I think one of the larger problems the server has is the forum trolls and the constant reminder of doom and gloom and how bad the server is etc. this forum is the first thing a player looks at before deciding to join it or not. based on what I see, I'd just move along if I was a random/non referral.
nothing is really as bad as people try to make it seem. there's some angry/butt hurt folks that stick around to constantly remind us of things, but it's really not a true representation of the server. it's like a review of anything in life - very rarely will anyone stick around and post about how much fun they are having, but everyone that wants to vent and bitch will air it here frequently.
Flunklesnarkin
03-12-2012, 06:15 PM
Being able to fight back against trolls without sinking an incredible amount of time into PvE would probably help some.
Sirken
03-12-2012, 06:24 PM
so if i understand most you; most of you do not actually enjoy playing EverQuest. instead you would prefer to be given a lvl 50 character with uber gear and spend all day running around fragging each other. im sorry, but thats not EQ.
it seems none of you came here wanting to meet new people, make BOTH new friends and enemies. none of you came to grind it out, to crawl through dungeons, to try holding camps, all while dealing with other players trying to stop you via pvp.
if you came here expecting call of duty, naturally i see why you would be upset. but if you came here expecting EQ, then i look forward to seeing you all on the server.
<3
Sirks
Marglar
03-12-2012, 06:26 PM
^emphasis on the new friends part. I see a lot of people join the server with their existing friends, never branch out, then feel like they are homeless if someone quits. I've met some cool people since starting here.
Flunklesnarkin
03-12-2012, 06:29 PM
I wouldn't say i don't enjoy everquest.. i enjoy the PvE
but the PvP on everquest is horrible lol
I wouldn't really call it PvP server
I'd call it a PvE server with some PvP elements... classic or not its not really going to draw in crowds
people enjoy fast paced PvP these days.. not grind for ever then fight
Harrison
03-12-2012, 06:30 PM
so if i understand most you; most of you do not actually enjoy playing EverQuest. instead you would prefer to be given a lvl 50 character with uber gear and spend all day running around fragging each other. im sorry, but thats not EQ.
it seems none of you came here wanting to meet new people, make BOTH new friends and enemies. none of you came to grind it out, to crawl through dungeons, to try holding camps, all while dealing with other players trying to stop you via pvp.
if you came here expecting call of duty, naturally i see why you would be upset. but if you came here expecting EQ, then i look forward to seeing you all on the server.
<3
Sirks
Man am I glad you're here to make these people a bigger joke than they already are.
Lulz Sect
03-12-2012, 06:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/w3UKw.png
Server pop isn't so bad 150-200 like Supreme said is fine and will grow. I played only on VZTZ box 3.0 and had a lot of fun with it, not sure about the others boxes - but like Sirken said it wasn't really like EQ. I liked playing that server and would play on another one most likely if one was hosted since it's so easy to level, but I don't think messing with red99 too much would be a good thing. Global OOC could help, maybe, maybe not - and IP banning the real hardcore forums trolls/or forcing some kind of in-game/forum accountability, maybe having to link your account to the forums like Altergate etc.
I'm having fun, and realise everyones opinions are different - so I'm not gona stress about it and expect it to be exactly what I want.
Lulz Sect
03-12-2012, 06:35 PM
http://i.imgur.com/XTCrj.jpg
Hughman
03-12-2012, 06:36 PM
So I take it right now isn't a good time to start playing brus?
Its a good time, I even have that manastone I owe you.
Harrison
03-12-2012, 06:40 PM
Server pop isn't so bad 150-200 like Supreme said is fine and will grow. I played only on VZTZ box 3.0 and had a lot of fun with it, not sure about the others boxes - but like Sirken said it wasn't really like EQ. I liked playing that server and would play on another one most likely if one was hosted since it's so easy to level, but I don't think messing with red99 too much would be a good thing. Global OOC could help, maybe, maybe not - and IP banning the real hardcore forums trolls/or forcing some kind of in-game/forum accountability, maybe having to link your account to the forums like Altergate etc.
I'm having fun, and realise everyones opinions are different - so I'm not gona stress about it and expect it to be exactly what I want.
I already suggested this.
Lulz Sect
03-12-2012, 06:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/w3UKw.png
Sirken
03-12-2012, 06:46 PM
http://i.imgur.com/XTCrj.jpg
i approve this message^^
I already suggested this.
You're actually the forum troll I'm talking about - Cast is gone, time for you to eat a ban I hope - even this thread is just you arguing with other kids about some bullshit, plus non stop accusations of cheating going around rampant - when it's not even close to the case.
Steaks2
03-12-2012, 07:59 PM
most of you are retards
the reason the server died ( i said this on beta ) is it takes too long to accomplish something
add 1 griefing or train , pvp exp loss etc and people quit
progress too slow = no server the end
the only people that will grind exp at this rate are the hardcore antisocial basement dwelling losers that ruin any mmo
10x exp or pointless box , and surpreme pop ulation 200? yer funny
Supreme
03-12-2012, 08:11 PM
so if i understand most you; most of you do not actually enjoy playing EverQuest. instead you would prefer to be given a lvl 50 character with uber gear and spend all day running around fragging each other. im sorry, but thats not EQ.
it seems none of you came here wanting to meet new people, make BOTH new friends and enemies. none of you came to grind it out, to crawl through dungeons, to try holding camps, all while dealing with other players trying to stop you via pvp.
if you came here expecting call of duty, naturally i see why you would be upset. but if you came here expecting EQ, then i look forward to seeing you all on the server.
<3
Sirks
There is two camps...
One camp is what Sirken describes...
Other camp is more about PVP for raid content than PVP to grief/frag.
HappyTr33z
03-12-2012, 08:21 PM
The only thing that kept me from rolling on Red99 was I knew it was just going to be twinked out alts doing PvP my whole time leveling, I would've definitely done it if it had the same rule as I think Firiona Vie did, where you can only have 1 character on the server, but alot of players would probably dislike it.
Juggle
03-12-2012, 08:23 PM
The server will never reach its potential because there is no appropriate example. The GM's have their own ideas about who and what will be punished, though it contridicts the legitamacy of recreating classic everquest. From the limited exposure I have had with the GM's on blue/red
P99, I dont get the impression they are in it to help people. There are exceptions granted to some, but not others, Favortism, suspensions, bans, and at times, no action is taken. One thing is certain to be successful you need to be fair, consistant, and lead by example. I played on this hidden forest for a bit, it was not for me, but the GMs were great!, they actually were welcoming, concerned, and accomidating, something that will never be known to the P99 community.
Its pretty straight forward. Be Fair, be respectful, and be consistant.
SearyxTZ
03-12-2012, 08:27 PM
My first go-around I quit because of the exp rate, and because I felt like I was playing single player (nobody in newbie zones, nobody in chat).
I came back with several TZ people after the exp change and currently play.
I think it's funny how divided opinions are and how everyone wants every which rule tweaked to the way they like it.
I think one of the larger problems the server has is the forum trolls and the constant reminder of doom and gloom and how bad the server is etc. this forum is the first thing a player looks at before deciding to join it or not. based on what I see, I'd just move along if I was a random/non referral.
nothing is really as bad as people try to make it seem. there's some angry/butt hurt folks that stick around to constantly remind us of things, but it's really not a true representation of the server. it's like a review of anything in life - very rarely will anyone stick around and post about how much fun they are having, but everyone that wants to vent and bitch will air it here frequently.
I agree.
There are legitimate issues that should not be ignored, but there's a massive difference between "THIS SERVER IS HOPELESS AND HERE'S WHY IT FAILED" and wanting to constructively improve the experience.
Staff presence/moderation is sparse. At the same time, the red playerbase could make it much more appealing for staff to actually want to be working on things here. That rapport between staff/player is damaged (and was heavily damaged during the first month or so of the server).
I was pretty happy to see Null actually respond to the resists thread and address the overall feedback.
Global OOC hasn't been touched. A poll was put up in January. Threads keep popping up. It's an example of something that should be addressed. I have been fairly vocal about it - not because I want to bitch about something, but because I try to keep the casual player in mind who starts up a new character on this server. I think people try to play and quit because of the current experience, which is not "classic" because of the population, and so we have to make the appropriate adjustments. This is why I keep pushing for that.
Players could do a better job of calling out the positives of the server and promoting it. We don't do nearly enough of this.
Lazortag
03-12-2012, 08:30 PM
My guild came into the server with around 7-10 active players with many others interested. We are down to 2 semi active players now.
My biggest issue is the fact that the population continues to go down. I can handle all the other issues. Its extremely hard to put in time on a server that looks to be vacant in a few months.
The lack of GM communication was terrible after the first month and before a month ago. The biggest update was a post from Rogean on page like 50 of 100+ in rants in flames(That took months for them to follow through on). I'll admit that the communication lately has been better(or at least more).
It could also be the fact that your guild leader is an openly racist idiot. Maybe that's why your guild didn't thrive. Just a thought.
Marglar
03-12-2012, 08:37 PM
Arillious - have you considered that maybe it's time to look for a new guild for you and your remaining pals? I know, it's not the same without your buddies, but there's several opportunities out there to make new friends on emu, to keep the game enjoyable
genrah
03-12-2012, 09:38 PM
Needs item loot and a slight exp modifier. Why not try something unique that adds an element to the game - something that a lot of old pvprs enjoyed back in the day?
Billbike
03-12-2012, 10:37 PM
Server is fun. The scaling exp bonus is great.
Population was 150+ at peak hrs, more than enough to find a group or pvp.
After all, it's a free server. I would like global ooc and YT, but in the immortal wisdom of
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6k4rj5Xj31qcv56qo1_500.png
It's good fun.
Runya
03-12-2012, 10:44 PM
Sup Gen.....the exp mod they put in isnt bad....i would love item loot lol
Needs item loot and a slight exp modifier. Why not try something unique that adds an element to the game - something that a lot of old pvprs enjoyed back in the day?
Lulz Sect
03-12-2012, 10:46 PM
http://i.imgur.com/YGl3G.png
Arillious
03-13-2012, 02:25 PM
It could also be the fact that your guild leader is an openly racist idiot. Maybe that's why your guild didn't thrive. Just a thought.
Do not give opinions on things you do not understand. The decline in population is hardly exclusive to my guild only.
Lazortag
03-13-2012, 02:33 PM
Do not give opinions on things you do not understand. The decline in population is hardly exclusive to my guild only.
My opinion was exclusive to your guild. I've given my opinion on why the server's population more generally has declined, but in this case there's the intervening variable of your guild leader being a racist loudmouth that might have caused many of your guildies to be less enthusiastic about the server.
I should also point out that about a dozen different people have given different reasons for why they quit, why the server was a "failure", etc. You can't all be right at once you know.
Hailto
03-13-2012, 04:12 PM
A good portion of people quit because your server is largely populated by people like lulz sect, and generally the dregs of the online gaming community. Many of you intentionally griefed other people off the server and bragged about it, and now you actually have to ask why you are playing alone? Lol.
loserofgame
03-13-2012, 04:22 PM
I still play.
c-c-c-c-c-ombo breaker
Flunklesnarkin
03-13-2012, 04:32 PM
This is what i see
High levels grief low levels... but when they get trained at raids call foul (GM's jump in to sort stuff out)
Low levels trains raids.... but when they get trained while exping call foul (gm's jump in and find a reason to fuck with the trainers with name change or other such rule's lawyering)
See the problem there.... its GM intervention... enough already... just PvP...
oh and full loot
not sure if somebody said that today.
If only they would turn a blind eye to trains on red as much as they do on blue heh
loserofgame
03-13-2012, 04:44 PM
This is what i see
High levels grief low levels... but when they get trained at raids call foul (GM's jump in to sort stuff out)
Low levels trains raids.... but when they get trained while exping call foul (gm's jump in and find a reason to fuck with the trainers with name change or other such rule's lawyering)
See the problem there.... its GM intervention... enough already... just PvP...
oh and full loot
not sure if somebody said that today.
If only they would turn a blind eye to trains on red as much as they do on blue heh
For someone who doesn't play here, you've got pretty good ideas.
Flunklesnarkin
03-13-2012, 05:00 PM
Just summing up the RnF threads i've seen in the past month.
Half have been about getting trained while raiding
the other half have been about trainers getting fucked with by GM's while they grief low levels.
Just seems the spotty GM intervention is adding to the problem rather than solving it.
Lulz Sect
03-13-2012, 05:09 PM
A good portion of people quit because your server is largely populated by people like lulz sect, and generally the dregs of the online gaming community. Many of you intentionally griefed other people off the server and bragged about it, and now you actually have to ask why you are playing alone? Lol.
http://i.imgur.com/G5Mca.png
hate to break it to you brew, just dinged 15 yesterday - if i grief-ed any one off the server - consider them done a favor
Darwoth
03-13-2012, 06:37 PM
My opinion was exclusive to your guild. I've given my opinion on why the server's population more generally has declined, but in this case there's the intervening variable of your guild leader being a racist loudmouth that might have caused many of your guildies to be less enthusiastic about the server.
I should also point out that about a dozen different people have given different reasons for why they quit, why the server was a "failure", etc. You can't all be right at once you know.
i am certain that my guild who largely hold the same opinions i do on a majority of topics, most of whom i have known/played with for well over 8 years and all of whom remain firmly in said guild while we all await something worth playing on our private boards gathered in secret and said "man this eq server is great but that damn evil racist darwoth does not like black folks so now we have to quit, dang" not because of the myriad of server related issues.
in other news i hear "spear of the nation" is doing well.
heartbrand
03-13-2012, 07:48 PM
i am certain that my guild who largely hold the same opinions i do on a majority of topics, most of whom i have known/played with for well over 8 years and all of whom remain firmly in said guild while we all await something worth playing on our private boards gathered in secret and said "man this eq server is great but that damn evil racist darwoth does not like black folks so now we have to quit, dang" not because of the myriad of server related issues.
in other news i hear "spear of the nation" is doing well.
I wish darwoth would post more because everything he says is right on the money, can we just put this guy in charge of the server?
Nirgon
03-13-2012, 07:49 PM
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Lazortag
03-13-2012, 09:38 PM
i am certain that my guild who largely hold the same opinions i do on a majority of topics, most of whom i have known/played with for well over 8 years and all of whom remain firmly in said guild while we all await something worth playing on our private boards gathered in secret and said "man this eq server is great but that damn evil racist darwoth does not like black folks so now we have to quit, dang" not because of the myriad of server related issues.
in other news i hear "spear of the nation" is doing well.
Well your guild (admittedly) has two players left, if I hadn't disbanded Spear it would certainly have more than 2. But in any case this isn't about my former guild. Unless of course you were referring to the South African organization of the same name, in which case it did very well and was dismantled as part of South Africa's transition to democracy.
purest
03-13-2012, 10:08 PM
Many of you intentionally griefed other people off the server and bragged about it
do you think people who like eq pvp so much that they active sought it out 13 years later to play on an emu server are that thin skinned that they're gonna ragequit when pvp happens?
i grant you runner up for most retarded poster on this subforum after harrison
Lulz Sect
03-13-2012, 10:09 PM
i am annoyed that i enjoyed a purest post
mostbitter
03-13-2012, 10:15 PM
This server is boring. Everquest used to be tolerable in it's classic form when it had 1000+ people online at any given moment. I would log into everquest just to chat with my online friends. Now I test my patience every time I log in here. How long can I attempt to progress on this server before I realize I'm leveling my umpteenth toon at a snails pace in an empty zone. I can't gather the interest to level up knowing that as soon as I've wasted several days worth of time in getting my character to 50 that I am only looking at more grinding for equipment, so that I can stay on tier with people who are able to dedicate absurd amounts of time to their everquest characters. I feel like this server appeals to a large amount of people and that it rewards a select few who have chosen to ignore their actual responsibilities in favor of playing this game. Furthermore if you have 60ish zones and 100 hell lets even say 200 people you aren't going to see much interaction. How can you fix that? Ensure that everyone playing is interested in the same targets. 1-50 you can use most zones to progress through the game. With travel being so tedious you won't see many people moving out of their own starting zones which makes it that much more desolate. Youll end up with a bunch of people who have the same experience I have had which is to have leveled up alone. If everyone was 50 there would be more interaction and more pvp. There are fewer zones which offer progress at 50 and this will condense the population this making the server seem "fuller" and more active.
/rant
Harrison
03-13-2012, 10:27 PM
do you think people who like eq pvp so much that they active sought it out 13 years later to play on an emu server are that thin skinned that they're gonna ragequit when pvp happens?
i grant you runner up for most retarded poster on this subforum after harrison
PVP isn't exploiting CT engage to grief.
PVP isn't training.
PVP isn't bind camping to delevel people.
You don't know what pvp is.
Humerox
03-13-2012, 10:34 PM
Well your guild (admittedly) has two players left, if I hadn't disbanded Spear it would certainly have more than 2.
Spear still has more than 2 players in it...
;)
purest
03-13-2012, 10:52 PM
You don't know what pvp is.
^ depth of eq pvp career consists of getting to ~lvl 8 on a beta server with 100% increased xp
Harrison
03-13-2012, 10:53 PM
Another genius assessment from Purest.
Please tell me more about my life that you know oh so much about.
purest
03-13-2012, 10:58 PM
uh, well considering i was in your guild on beta.. grindcore
you got to level ~8 and quit after literally 2 days of the server coming out
Harrison
03-13-2012, 11:00 PM
That must be the only time I've ever pvp'd in any game ever, and certainly the only time on EQ, right? I must have left due to the zero times I died in pvp, too, right? It had nothing to do with picking up a second job to help pad more into savings during the busy part of the year/holidays, right? It was because I couldn't handle 10000000x experience and cried all over the forums like you guys did?
You're a prime example for MENSA members. Please, continue, oh wise one.
purest
03-13-2012, 11:12 PM
didnt read your post after 4 words but lol you did not play on live or you would have told us about it 1,000,000 times by now
get lost fatty
Harrison
03-13-2012, 11:15 PM
Actually, I've posted about it quite a bit in the past.
Reading is hard, I know. I had that problem when I was 4 years-old too.
purest
03-13-2012, 11:17 PM
how good do i have to be at reading to slice deli meat part-time in my mid 30s for a living like you?
Darwoth
03-13-2012, 11:21 PM
Well your guild (admittedly) has two players left, if I hadn't disbanded Spear it would certainly have more than 2. But in any case this isn't about my former guild. Unless of course you were referring to the South African organization of the same name, in which case it did very well and was dismantled as part of South Africa's transition to democracy.
erm, our guild is not a project 99 guild with an empty guildportal website, it is a real one that has played a dozen+ games with the same group of people (16 active members atm, most of which started here and later quit due to the litany of reasons already mentioned) and has seen myself and our oldest members gaming together since we were in our mid/late teens, i think just our guild name is 7 or more years old now come to think of it.
anyhow, so yeah your a retard as per the norm.
Harrison
03-13-2012, 11:25 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16248159.jpg
Lulz Sect
03-13-2012, 11:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Z2KD8.png
Within99
03-14-2012, 12:47 AM
My 2 friends quit and I was healer/solo backup and lost interest.
Beastro
03-14-2012, 01:07 AM
The first six are the reason why I never played it to begin with including those which hadn't happened at release yet because I knew they were eventually going to.
Hammertime
03-14-2012, 03:55 AM
server just plains suck from a to z feel like the little chinaman under chineas dictatorship.... harrison fat
Flunklesnarkin
03-14-2012, 04:03 AM
Idk why they didn't take a poll on the rules before it started
reading on the history of eq pvp it seems for a long time it was coin + 1 item loot
I'm sure if i dug farther i could find other inconsistencies...
one big thing that stood out to me was casters use to respawn with full mana but was later patched...
Is server currently that way?
Harrison
03-14-2012, 09:57 AM
server just plains suck from a to z feel like the little chinaman under chineas dictatorship.... harrison fat
If you're complaining about being banned, I feel bad for you son.
Servers boring, Nihilum has RPT leadership who couldn't divide items fairly if they tried; and they have no respect for their longtime members. If you aren't in the officer circle they will toss you aside like a bag of potatos and just recruit 5 more nubs to replace you. Wtb Diablo 3.
Slathar
03-14-2012, 11:31 AM
Servers boring, Nihilum has RPT leadership who couldn't divide items fairly if they tried; and they have no respect for their longtime members. If you aren't in the officer circle they will toss you aside like a bag of potatos and just recruit 5 more nubs to replace you. Wtb Diablo 3.
But you were banned, you didn't quit.
Lovely Icecomet
03-14-2012, 11:44 AM
http://i.imgur.com/w3UKw.png
Palemoon
03-14-2012, 12:27 PM
Servers boring, Nihilum has RPT leadership who couldn't divide items fairly if they tried; and they have no respect for their longtime members. If you aren't in the officer circle they will toss you aside like a bag of potatos and just recruit 5 more nubs to replace you. Wtb Diablo 3.
Werent you recently banned on both servers for RMT, then tried to start a new account and act like nothing happened, then get banned from vent/booted from the guild because members do not want RMT trash in the guild?
(and serious question, did you RMT away that white dragon scale the "inner circle that has no respect for longtime members" awarded you a couple vox's ago?).
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Nirgon
03-14-2012, 12:31 PM
then get banned from vent/booted from the guild because members do not want RMT trash that get caught in the guild?
loserofgame
03-14-2012, 12:41 PM
Werent you recently banned on both servers for RMT, then tried to start a new account and act like nothing happened, then get banned from vent/booted from the guild because members do not want RMT trash in the guild?
(and serious question, did you RMT away that white dragon scale the "inner circle that has no respect for longtime members" awarded you a couple vox's ago?).
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Arzak, you seem like a cool guy.
Just wanted to say that. This forum needs more good vibes instead of bad ones.
Muaar
03-14-2012, 01:51 PM
because lovely and crew exploited everything ruining progression and were never punished
im back now though and glad to see the GMs are active stopping regular pvp and then admitting no rules are broken and then changing your name because they're there.
TLDR: GMs ruined server economy at launch and have moved on to ruining players names. GMs are probably the worst part of this server.
Harrison
03-14-2012, 01:53 PM
Lol someone is butthurt their name broke the rules and now thinks the server's staff is to blame
Greegon
03-14-2012, 02:06 PM
While there is a lack of GM policing to counter the cheating, and the lack of coding is depressing at the least. I'd say its the player base that's definitely the worst.
Still here and going, but getting pretty discouraged.
Werent you recently banned on both servers for RMT, then tried to start a new account and act like nothing happened, then get banned from vent/booted from the guild because members do not want RMT trash in the guild?
(and serious question, did you RMT away that white dragon scale the "inner circle that has no respect for longtime members" awarded you a couple vox's ago?).
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
No I had blue shit stockpiled, and never sold 1 item I got from the guild, and certainly didn't need to. I didn't act like nothing happened either. I owned up to it and said it was my own fault. Majority of the guild sided with me, but couldn't say anything against Emumu the RPT'r. I also had a long discussion with Amelinda afterwards. You jackasses have nothing to back up anything lol. Taking shots in the dark, and making things up as you perceive them to be.
Nirgon
03-14-2012, 02:13 PM
Give you my wizard to turn them in and if they get bant.
Man of my word.
PS: She's a beaut.
Herb9
03-14-2012, 02:22 PM
No I had blue shit stockpiled, and never sold 1 item I got from the guild, and certainly didn't need to. I didn't act like nothing happened either. I owned up to it and said it was my own fault. Majority of the guild sided with me, but couldn't say anything against Emumu the RPT'r. I also had a long discussion with Amelinda afterwards. You jackasses have nothing to back up anything lol. Taking shots in the dark, and making things up as you perceive them to be.
You don't want the screenshots posted, you should really watch your mouth. There's a LOT on you, and that's why you are banned. The only conversation you had with Amelinda, was about who else you could bring down with you to try to lessen your sentence. If you had anything on anyone else in Nihilum, you would have thrown them under the bus to try to prevent losing your income. You're the only one gone tho!
Reality is nobody has sided with you, you are yesterday's news.
Ragemaster9999
03-14-2012, 02:23 PM
I still play, however the EXP grind and lack of population is really discouraging. I am almost afraid to carry on because im worried that our server is on borrowed time. Its also not really advisable to pvp other people in your range, because you NEED people to level up. There are so few people running around in the 20's that ganking them will come back to haunt you when you cant find anyone to group with.
You don't want the screenshots posted, you should really watch your mouth. There's a LOT on you, and that's why you are banned. The only conversation you had with Amelinda, was about who else you could bring down with you to try to lessen your sentence. If you had anything on anyone else in Nihilum, you would have thrown them under the bus to try to prevent losing your income. You're the only one gone tho!
Reality is nobody has sided with you, you are yesterday's news.
Try to lessen my sentence? What are you talking about rofl, delusions of granduer and jealousy.
Nirgon
03-14-2012, 02:37 PM
Told you those guys didn't care about you. They do all the most dishonest shit in the world and refuse to know you when you get caught.
Turn them in Natural.
Herb9
03-14-2012, 02:44 PM
Natural won't talk to me in vent anymore because I've never backed down to any of his bs and even laughed in his face in a room full of most of the clan when he claimed to be #1 enc on the server. The 3 best enc's on the server are still playing, and you were never one of them.
Now he's banned for RMT, lost hundreds in value of items on his accounts, and he's trying to suggest for a minute that if he had any dirt on anyone else that he wouldn't have turned them in order to save his cash?
Jokes jokes jokes :D:D:D
Natural won't talk to me in vent anymore because I've never backed down to any of his bs and even laughed in his face in a room full of most of the clan when he claimed to be #1 enc on the server. The 3 best enc's on the server are still playing, and you were never one of them.
Now he's banned for RMT, lost hundreds in value of items on his accounts, and he's trying to suggest for a minute that if he had any dirt on anyone else that he wouldn't have turned them in order to save his cash?
Jokes jokes jokes :D:D:D
Before you were even anybody in the guild a group of 6-9 of us in vent all talked about RMT, including Emumu so once again you have no ground to stand on. Do you even read over what you type after you're done? You sound so kniving and jealous. You also never laughed in my face accept after I was banned when we were in a private channel, and you let your true colors show. You're a low class human being man. Lord have mercy on your petty ways.
Nirgon
03-14-2012, 03:00 PM
Post proof of the logs or the shit from the site, emails, correspondence etc take them down with you.
It's the appropriate thing to do. Even Harrison can get on board with this.
Harrison
03-14-2012, 03:06 PM
Post proof of the logs or the shit from the site, emails, correspondence etc take them down with you.
It's the appropriate thing to do. Even Harrison can get on board with this.
Truth.
Was vent conversations from months ago, and I've never recorded conversations in there. My memory can recall the names/figures/item sales people were claiming though lol.
Herb9
03-14-2012, 03:49 PM
Post proof of the logs or the shit from the site, emails, correspondence etc take them down with you.
It's the appropriate thing to do. Even Harrison can get on board with this.
Bring down the entire RMT apparatus; if you got anything at all, you'd have done it to save yourself.
Laughed in your face about the #1 enc comment camping evil eye 10 days before you got banned, informed you that you weren't even the best enc in your own clan, let alone the server. That was just based on observation, and at this point, Mellowyellow is technically better than you seeing as he has an enchanter and you don't, and this is his first rodeo.
Far as the RL attacks, well, that's YET ANOTHER area I have more dirt on you than you have on me, so for your own benefit, let's not go there either. I have no sympathy for pathological liars, of which you are one. It's on display right now that you are out of touch with even the words you type, so there's a lot of neurons not firing off.
Bring down the entire RMT apparatus; if you got anything at all, you'd have done it to save yourself.
Laughed in your face about the #1 enc comment camping evil eye 10 days before you got banned, informed you that you weren't even the best enc in your own clan, let alone the server. That was just based on observation, and at this point, Mellowyellow is technically better than you seeing as he has an enchanter and you don't, and this is his first rodeo.
Far as the RL attacks, well, that's YET ANOTHER area I have more dirt on you than you have on me, so for your own benefit, let's not go there either. I have no sympathy for pathological liars, of which you are one. It's on display right now that you are out of touch with even the words you type, so there's a lot of neurons not firing off.
How am I a pathological liar when I didn't deny anything. You are the one who screenshot me and fed me to the wolves lol. Oh and not to mention you lied numberous times about not reporting me and then duoing at dino with me like you were my friend. You are fake man. LOL eat a dick.
Lovely Icecomet
03-14-2012, 04:12 PM
http://i.imgur.com/oUacG.png
Slathar
03-14-2012, 04:19 PM
Natural, I will give you my account if you turn in three (3) Nihilum for RMT. They must be banned and the account is all yours. EQemu info and everything.
Set them free, Natural. God wills it.
Lovely you don't even play anymore lol. Definately not upset, I moved on from day 1 of the ban. Unlike Oddjob whose frothing at the mouth like a nerd.
Lovely Icecomet
03-14-2012, 04:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VzCae.png
I don't see all the rage about RMT, if people want to make cash off playing a game seriously go ahead - I heard diablo 3 will have an in-game feature to sell your shit for RL cash. I also remember tons of people doing it on live back in the day with accounts/items. Hell I even sold my rogue back in the day on live.
fiegi
03-14-2012, 04:36 PM
Big chuck pulled in at least 25k+ off good ole eq/ebay
I made a whopping 500$ for like a year of my life - was a good deal maken under a penny an hour or whatever it worked out to.
Lovely Icecomet
03-14-2012, 04:40 PM
3k
fiegi
03-14-2012, 04:41 PM
I made a whopping 500$ for like a year of my life - was a good deal maken under a penny an hour or whatever it worked out to.
haha
I never thought about it like that before
fiegi
03-14-2012, 04:42 PM
on a side note for all you retards, that isn't Lovely. Lovely posts under the name "Lovely"
Amelinda
03-14-2012, 04:54 PM
I don't see all the rage about RMT, if people want to make cash off playing a game seriously go ahead - I heard diablo 3 will have an in-game feature to sell your shit for RL cash. I also remember tons of people doing it on live back in the day with accounts/items. Hell I even sold my rogue back in the day on live.
RMT is not only against the rules of the server but it is against the law and can SHUT THE SERVERS DOWN. SERIOUSLY. Red99 would be gone and there would be no more classic EQ PVP. because NO ONE can profit off of this.
So that is the big deal.
I've caught people in at least 3 guilds RMTing on red. all are banned.
Here is the deal:
If you know ANYTHING about RMT and do not turn it in - you are just as guilty as the person RMTing. If I find you are withholding RMT info then you will suffer the same fate as Lethdar (per Nilbog's comment in another thread)
fiegi
03-14-2012, 04:56 PM
Lethdar banned for trolling about dem RMT's
RIP
Never forgive Never forget
Lovely Icecomet
03-14-2012, 04:57 PM
http://i.imgur.com/JxPSk.jpg
I understand it's illegal and you can't come right out and say it's allowed - but believing sony is going to shut the server down cause some dude is sellen a tcrown for 100 bucks or whatever they go for seems a stretch.
I guess I can understand why Amelinda cares, I just don't understand why the community rages that hard about it.
heartbrand
03-14-2012, 05:45 PM
I get RMT it's wrong w/e, but the argument that it puts the server in danger to me is like saying if you speed while murdering someone you're more likely to go to jail. This entire server is illegal, more illegal problems, problems which by the way apparently have been ongoing since the start of p99, seem unlikely to make the server any more in jeopardy of being shut down.
Humerox
03-14-2012, 05:57 PM
believing sony is going to shut the server down cause some dude is sellen a tcrown for 100 bucks or whatever they go for seems a stretch.
actually it's not a stretch.
SamwiseRed
03-14-2012, 06:41 PM
hai. sadly been playing other games but just to throw in my 2 cents.
gms way to involved in shit. no offense amelinda but I can smell the rage as you post crap about not insulting staff and yada yada. as a person, its great you volunteer your time to this project but as a gm for the red server you kinda suck. you are way to involved with the players, your rules are not fair and impartial, and tbh you lack the thick skin to run a server populated by assholes like myself. we need a gm who we fuckin fear. your posts make you sound like a train wreck sometimes and I hope that doesnt hurt your feelings.
tl dr get a level headed respectable pvp vet to run this server.
Lovely Icecomet
03-14-2012, 06:58 PM
http://i.imgur.com/N5UYR.jpg
SamwiseRed
03-14-2012, 07:02 PM
luls took it like a champ. even with oor healer (a month ago?) he didnt run. before falling over he said zoning is for pussies. most pvp pvp i ever pvped. if that little halfling warrior wasnt helping you i would have just watched :)
Lulz Sect
03-14-2012, 08:39 PM
luls took it like a champ. even with oor healer (a month ago?) he didnt run. before falling over he HT'd himself to death and said zoning is for pussies. most pvp pvp i ever pvped. if that little halfling warrior wasnt helping you i would have just watched :)
FiX'D
SamwiseRed
03-14-2012, 10:00 PM
lol didnt realize you HTed yourself. was too busy lookin at the horse cocks on spartacus.
Lethdar banned for trolling about dem RMT's
RIP
Never forgive Never forget
see the sig bro.
nilbog minus'd our boy out via pseudo script. im adding him back every post.
Ragemaster9999
03-15-2012, 12:06 AM
RMTers can go to hell, its bad enough that they infest live games and fuck up economies on a consistent basis, but to have them here in a emulator run by volunteers is beyond wrong. I used to be in the pro RMT camp, a very long time ago, but once you have played a few games completely ruined by bots and rmt you will see why its bad.
Also Amelinda is correct, no one can profit off of a EQ emulator, its risky enough just operating one. Adding further risk by RMTing just adds to the potential for a SOE cease and desist and then bye bye server and bye bye items you spent RL money on. Doh
Hairybuttwhole
03-15-2012, 12:09 AM
server needs regulators
Lethdar banned for trolling about dem RMT's
RIP
Never forgive Never forget
I was wondering how long it would take him to eat a perma ban here. No Keegan to cry to this time around eh?
fiegi
03-15-2012, 12:25 AM
Keegan sells those ass dolls
FoxxHound
03-15-2012, 04:50 AM
I still play. Though it is rare.
I'm thinking about giving it up.
I voted for multiple options. Dwindling population. Have to play a class that can solo. Gotten some major grief a couple times. Long grind. No real way to find a group (no global OOC). No safe/dedicated auction zone. I know it's PvP, but it seems almost impossible to buy items. 4 out of 4 times I've gotten killed into someone saying they are going to sell me an item, and then getting jumped when there to buy it.
Arillious
03-19-2012, 11:10 AM
In summary, Everquest is a shitty single player game.
lethdar
03-19-2012, 11:27 AM
Oh noes, turns out i'm banned on a server i quit months ago for trolling, my life is ruined.
Lovely
03-19-2012, 11:37 AM
Population going down obviously played a big role for everyone.
But I mainly lost interest due to lack of competition and no challenge whatsoever. There was maybe 1 decent player out of every 100 so PVPin wasn't exactly enjoyable. Holocaust promised to destroy and rape me along with half the server, they also promised they would be first to 50 and would camp me all day everyday. Knowing that I figured I could find some fun (aka challenge) on this EMU but sadly none of that happened. Instead they all sucked donkey cock beside maybe their main Enchanter dude whatever name he had. He was the only one who seemed decent in that guild, sadly he didn't play enough along with most of their members so the threat never existed.
Also lack of content played a big role. It just took 2-4 weeks to get max level and every single item/potion/clicky that existed and after that it got kinda boring with no planes or anything. I guess that's life in every MMO, but on a EMU with a population of 200-500 it just isn't enough to keep playing.
SamwiseRed
03-19-2012, 11:38 AM
all trolling and agendas aside, just not enough people :( Norrath was never meant to be a single player game. was fun while it lasted although I am sure any new comers who dont roll a solo class are not going to have the same enjoyment as I.
Lovely
03-19-2012, 11:39 AM
Global OOC, Kills and maybe a LeaderBoard could have kept it more interesting also. But the server lacked all of the key features that a low population server need to stay alive.
Lovely
03-19-2012, 11:43 AM
I think I'd even play again on a new server with a leaderboard, global ooc for chat and kills along with the race PVP Sullon Zek had cuz I never really tried that. Could be fun for a while :D
All the balance shit and stuff like that doesn't really matter to me and that's what had all the focus on this server. I couldn't give a shit if class XX sucks, or if melee sucks or if casters sucks or if roots last 10 years or always get resisted. None of that really matters to me. I know ill rape everyone either way with any class. I just want some fun features where pwning counts.
I think everyone had memories of live and what made it cool/fun for them and hoped to replicate it here. I agree I thought global OOC was a bad idea before the server launched because I assumed the pop would be much larger - but now that it averages 100 people it's easy to see that people are unable to find groups/feel like they are playing a dead server. I think GM's can make some changes and see how it helps - try global ooc, try adding YT etc. Shit doesn't need to be permanent, can say it's a trial run to test how people like it.
SamwiseRed
03-19-2012, 11:53 AM
I think I'd even play again on a new server with a leaderboard, global ooc for chat and kills along with the race PVP Sullon Zek had cuz I never really tried that. Could be fun for a while :D
All the balance shit and stuff like that doesn't really matter to me and that's what had all the focus on this server. I couldn't give a shit if class XX sucks, or if melee sucks or if casters sucks or if roots last 10 years or always get resisted. None of that really matters to me. I know ill rape everyone either way with any class. I just want some fun features where pwning counts.
yellow text and diety based pvp (sullon zek) would have been awesome as shit. also on sullon there is no level range which kept people from OOR training/healing. Also trains were legal so Gms got to sit back and watch the fun. find me dis and I would probably try eq classic one more time.
yellow text and diety based pvp (sullon zek) would have been awesome as shit. also on sullon there is no level range which kept people from OOR training/healing. Also trains were legal so Gms got to sit back and watch the fun. find me dis and I would probably try eq classic one more time.
Agreed.
Palemoon
03-19-2012, 02:15 PM
Agreed.
Would of made it easier for you to RMT if you could of PKed oor noobs off manastone and trained more, thats for sure.
But what would of been better for your business, would not of been better for the server.
I had blue shit stockpiled from 2 years play, you're a delusional jag off.
Xantille
03-19-2012, 03:36 PM
Did not read thread.
However, a lesson in GM transparency: the dragon loot Rogean tried to track down nearly a month ago (in this thread http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=66246) still hasn't been removed.
fiegi
03-19-2012, 03:38 PM
Did not read thread.
However, a lesson in GM transparency: the dragon loot Rogean tried to track down nearly a month ago (in this thread http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=66246) still hasn't been removed.
this
blue diamonds still in the game (lol)
main developer clearly doesn't give a shit
why should anyone else?
JayDee
03-19-2012, 04:05 PM
P:i wont play without free pl
P:nobody offered to pl me for free
C:server sucks
heartbrand
03-19-2012, 04:16 PM
Don't play as much anymore because I can find more PVP on minesweeper than I can on server
Salty
03-19-2012, 04:18 PM
P:i wont play without free pl
P:nobody offered to pl me for free
C:server sucks
JayDee celeb.
Snufz
03-19-2012, 04:35 PM
Resist system was it for me.
It effectively took out the run and joust in group pvp that really separates skill level and what made classic pvp so interesting.
Anyone being rooted and herp derp zerged without any timing skills is horrible.
Chett
03-19-2012, 04:38 PM
Don't play as much anymore because I can find more PVP on minesweeper than I can on server
Yea, no doubt, Server went kinda "purple99". Might be soonish slaughtered by Blue.
steakshop
03-19-2012, 05:07 PM
this
blue diamonds still in the game (lol)
main developer clearly doesn't give a shit
why should anyone else?
Lazortag
03-19-2012, 05:24 PM
Don't play as much anymore because I can find more PVP on minesweeper than I can on server
I love how most of the people saying this are people like Heartbrand who constantly gate from 1v1's. You only want more pvp if it's a guaranteed victory for you.
Lazortag
03-19-2012, 05:26 PM
Did not read thread.
However, a lesson in GM transparency: the dragon loot Rogean tried to track down nearly a month ago (in this thread http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=66246) still hasn't been removed.
Pretty sure Nihilum's loot has been removed, at least that's what the guild was told. Has Holo's loot not been removed?
Xantille
03-19-2012, 07:15 PM
Pretty sure Nihilum's loot has been removed, at least that's what the guild was told. Has Holo's loot not been removed?
You're being fed lies, bro. Bladestopper still on Keto, I still have Treasure Hunter's Satchel, and gauntlets got traded to Natural, so they are probably in dat RMT land.
SearyxTZ
03-19-2012, 07:44 PM
Resist system was it for me.
It effectively took out the run and joust in group pvp that really separates skill level and what made classic pvp so interesting.
Anyone being rooted and herp derp zerged without any timing skills is horrible.
This is a very valid point, but I think Null is going to be adjusting the resists here (as per our mutual blood oath with the old Verant gods).
I don't think this necessarily has to be a negative "ship is sinking" type of thread if we extract points from it and see what can be done to improve or fix any universal problems.
The server is a lot less bleak if you look at this as an extended beta. It's not like 1999 EQ didn't require a ton of tweaks and patches.
letsjoe
03-19-2012, 08:30 PM
This is a very valid point, but I think Null is going to be adjusting the resists here (as per our mutual blood oath with the old Verant gods).
I don't think this necessarily has to be a negative "ship is sinking" type of thread if we extract points from it and see what can be done to improve or fix any universal problems.
The server is a lot less bleak if you look at this as an extended beta. It's not like 1999 EQ didn't require a ton of tweaks and patches.
ya i agree, WIPE!
Ssleeve
03-19-2012, 08:39 PM
ya i agree, WIPE!
SamwiseRed
03-19-2012, 08:43 PM
personally I wouldnt mind a wipe but I have friends on here that put have ALOT of time into their characters so I can't side with wiping the server.
Ebonchi
03-19-2012, 08:47 PM
I stopped playing due to the oddly timed nerfs that were not retro. The l33ts go to abuse, then it was nerfed - should have just left that stuff in the way it was. If one gets to do it then everyone should.
Lovely Icecomet
03-19-2012, 11:05 PM
winter is coming
steakshop
03-19-2012, 11:50 PM
http://www.communityconnectnj.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-logo.jpg
im rogean , and i approved this message ( and im a ****** )
Bombfist
03-20-2012, 12:04 AM
I stopped before i started due to no yellow/ooc/leaderboard. It was also pretty evident that the way this server was being made was in a "fuck you it's mine i'll do what i want with it" fashion, even while being fed a list of mistakes from the previous servers.
Server just felt empty even at the start with so many people, killing somebody means nothing unless you want to print screen and log on the forums. If i fart in a room with 800 people i want them all to hear it.
Everquest is shit so it needs something extra for me to have any sort of incentive to play it, working boats just didn't do it for me i'm afraid.
hagard
03-20-2012, 12:22 AM
Bum fist
Aenor
03-20-2012, 02:56 PM
so if i understand most you; most of you do not actually enjoy playing EverQuest. instead you would prefer to be given a lvl 50 character with uber gear and spend all day running around fragging each other. im sorry, but thats not EQ.
I stopped reading here. I appreciate everything the staff has done, I have donated to the server, but I just don't see the benefit in finger-pointing. The player base is blaming the devs/gms for not doing enough to sustain the population. Here, the staff blames the player base for not having realistic expectations. Who gives a fuck where the blame lies... where's the solution?
For the record, Sirken, nothing in your post applies to me. I have grinded to 40 and stopped because there's barely anybody left. I wanted the grind... I wanted people to have to work for their shit... but I wanted there to still be a server worth playing on once the grind was complete.
I hearby absolve the staff of all blame... you're right, it's completely 100% the fault of the players that this server has failed. Blame having been assessed, would you please do SOMETHING to save the server before prime time population hits zero?
Palemoon
03-20-2012, 03:09 PM
What Sirken said in your quote is 100 percent truth and it is what I have been saying and warning about from the inception of this server.
On one hand you have people who love Everquest, the game. They love it even more with a dash of red to add some spice to the game world and immersion.
On the other hand you have the whole "comeatmebro" holo/fishbait/VZ/TZ cluster who could care less about Everquest except for the nature of the game allows for griefing others in a way that is just not possible in most other games.
Some came here to play EQ, some came here to grief.
I blame them for the current servers low pop, not Everquest.
mostbitter
03-20-2012, 03:21 PM
The Sirken quote really bugs me. That may not be everquest but it also wasn't a barren desolate wasteland where everyone had to solo their way up to 50, resist where different, and there wasn't an extra form of experience lost. Why are all these things acceptable differences but we can't get with the times in any other fashion? It's blatantly pigheaded.
steakshop
03-20-2012, 05:13 PM
I stopped before i started due to no yellow/ooc/leaderboard. It was also pretty evident that the way this server was being made was in a "fuck you it's mine i'll do what i want with it" fashion, even while being fed a list of mistakes from the previous servers.
Server just felt empty even at the start with so many people, killing somebody means nothing unless you want to print screen and log on the forums. If i fart in a room with 800 people i want them all to hear it.
Everquest is shit so it needs something extra for me to have any sort of incentive to play it, working boats just didn't do it for me i'm afraid.
hi im a complete faggot with a celebrity as my avatar
also i love cock , please read what i type and shower me with love / kisses
bygarip01
03-20-2012, 05:17 PM
tskler guzel paylasim olmus
loserofgame
03-20-2012, 05:20 PM
tskler guzel paylasim olmus
Brilliant post. Amazing command of the English language. The most clear, concise, and informative thing we've had on the forums since the dawn of time.
I don't think these forums need to exist any more after that post. Might as well lock the whole thing now and just leave it at that.
Just taking an honest approach to it... When EQ came out in 99' I'm assuming the majority of current players were in their teen years, where there was an abundance of time to pour into character(s). Flash forward 13 years later, a lot of us (presumably), although I'm speaking for myself, don't have the same time to put into leveling and character development. Whether job or family, some of us can't sit for hours grinding it out. I LOVED eq pvp (from Rallos), and from when I played in beta it seemed like the server would be a hit...and yes...before insta-50/good items.
A few friends and myself started playing on live but just found we didn't have the time to put in like we had intended. Obviously it shouldn't be a cakewalk to 50 but I found people struggling to put balanced groups together with the abundance of solo classes, and those who were soloing were putting in some serious time to make it happen.
People come to p99red to just have fun and play EQ in the chaotic way that it was when it came out. Keeping in mind all services rendered are free, a lot of the bitches and gripes are pretty trivial and I think most people can put up with things that aren't being addressed immediately. I feel the exp rate could be increased and would definitely attract me (and others) back into putting some time in.
TLDR; I feel a good majority of players just don't have the time to grind it out like they did back in the day. Possible increase in EXP rate
heartbrand
03-20-2012, 07:09 PM
TLDR; I feel a good majority of players just don't have the time to grind it out like they did back in the day. Possible increase in EXP rate
this, the exp boost did little to help in the levels it is needed most 40+. those are the most painful levels to grind as a melee where you basically must group, but because the pop is so low it is hard to get a group together. couple that with the fact that you're prolly stuck grouping with all the other melees, many of them big troll shadowknights, you're now getting huge hybrid penalties on your exp and killing 8-10 blue mobs before seeing your exp bar move even once.
before 100x people say omg not truez, I have spent the last six hours in a bat PL group clearing literally every mob from sol b ent to bat 2 and have gotten 2 yellows of EXP in 49 on a warrior. god help us when 51-60 come out
Harrison
03-20-2012, 07:27 PM
Lol crying about classic experience when you have accelerated rates
You're being fed lies, bro. Bladestopper still on Keto, I still have Treasure Hunter's Satchel, and gauntlets got traded to Natural, so they are probably in dat RMT land.
Lol ya I never got contacted about my gauntlets and had em forever after the announcement was said they were going to be removed. They're on Natural's banned account unfortunately for me, but doesn't matter because Diablo 3 will be out soon and will be kick ass.
Bombfist
03-20-2012, 07:29 PM
hi im a complete faggot with a celebrity as my avatar
also i love cock , please read what i type and shower me with love / kisses
Success.
steakshop
03-20-2012, 07:45 PM
Just taking an honest approach to it... When EQ came out in 99' I'm assuming the majority of current players were in their teen years, where there was an abundance of time to pour into character(s). Flash forward 13 years later, a lot of us (presumably), although I'm speaking for myself, don't have the same time to put into leveling and character development. Whether job or family, some of us can't sit for hours grinding it out. I LOVED eq pvp (from Rallos), and from when I played in beta it seemed like the server would be a hit...and yes...before insta-50/good items.
A few friends and myself started playing on live but just found we didn't have the time to put in like we had intended. Obviously it shouldn't be a cakewalk to 50 but I found people struggling to put balanced groups together with the abundance of solo classes, and those who were soloing were putting in some serious time to make it happen.
People come to p99red to just have fun and play EQ in the chaotic way that it was when it came out. Keeping in mind all services rendered are free, a lot of the bitches and gripes are pretty trivial and I think most people can put up with things that aren't being addressed immediately. I feel the exp rate could be increased and would definitely attract me (and others) back into putting some time in.
TLDR; I feel a good majority of players just don't have the time to grind it out like they did back in the day. Possible increase in EXP rate
look everyone a normal person with a life ( like me ) Who wont sit here and do this grind , 10x exp like beta = bangin server
RIP Red99
No crying intended, just trying to let people know why some of us choose not to play due to time constraints...although with 2,900 posts I don't see you understanding some people's lack of "commitment".
Harrison
03-20-2012, 07:53 PM
look everyone a normal person with a life ( like me ) Who wont sit here and do this grind , 10x exp like beta = bangin server
RIP Red99
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64379&highlight=fraps
Your opinions are worthless.
Dullah
03-20-2012, 10:25 PM
look everyone a normal person with a life ( like me ) Who wont sit here and do this grind , 10x exp like beta = bangin server
RIP Red99
Maybe you should post daily for months about how bad classic EQ exp is on a classic EQ server because you cant handle it.
lethdar
03-20-2012, 10:47 PM
so if i understand most you; most of you do not actually enjoy playing EverQuest. instead you would prefer to be given a lvl 50 character with uber gear and spend all day running around fragging each other. im sorry, but thats not EQ.
Sirken's post is a good example of the real problems that have doomed the server. Instead of actually trying to address player concerns or seeing why the population has dwindled he hand waves it all away and posts a bullshit strawman argument.
38% of the votes are due to GM issues (communication^^^ lololo + shortage of quality gms). 50% are due to the dwindling population + communication issues (global ooc/features + population topics).
Despite this, the poll results are ignored and the populace is called a bunch of collective pussies rather than dealing with the real issues.
Keep up the good communication GMs(+1 vote for that reason).
Titanuk
03-20-2012, 10:57 PM
http://www.maxfreak.com/diablo3/images/diablo-3-announcement.jpg
The answer.
SamwiseRed
03-20-2012, 11:18 PM
http://news4rs.com/wp-content/uploads/Runescape_dod1.png
Harrison
03-20-2012, 11:38 PM
Sirken's post is a good example of the real problems that have doomed the server. Instead of actually trying to address player concerns or seeing why the population has dwindled he hand waves it all away and posts a bullshit strawman argument.
38% of the votes are due to GM issues (communication^^^ lololo + shortage of quality gms). 50% are due to the dwindling population + communication issues (global ooc/features + population topics).
Despite this, the poll results are ignored and the populace is called a bunch of collective pussies rather than dealing with the real issues.
Keep up the good communication GMs(+1 vote for that reason).
Lethdar is also banned for cheating. All of his opinions are equally as worthless as Steaks'. No one cares what you think.
heartbrand
03-20-2012, 11:57 PM
Maybe you should post daily for months about how bad classic EQ exp is on a classic EQ server because you cant handle it.
Paineel / Cleric Mask / Class-Specific Planar Armor / Non-Nerfed Mistwalker / Spells landing on Fear mobs 99% of the time / charmed mobs
could go on for ages this server is NOT classic
Lazortag
03-21-2012, 12:01 AM
Paineel / Cleric Mask / Class-Specific Planar Armor / Non-Nerfed Mistwalker / Spells landing on Fear mobs 99% of the time / charmed mobs
could go on for ages this server is NOT classic
You listed a tiny fraction of the content on this server. A few inconsistencies doesn't strip the server of its classic title. Idiot alert.
heartbrand
03-21-2012, 01:02 AM
You listed a tiny fraction of the content on this server. A few inconsistencies doesn't strip the server of its classic title. Idiot alert.
Oh, so you're saying "slight" (arguable those game breaking errors are slight but not withstanding that) differences from classic aren't a huge deal. So I guess then we can have global ooc because a few inconsistencies wouldn't be an issue with the classic title? amirite?
Dullah
03-21-2012, 03:42 AM
Many of us check the forums for info, and we're forced to read this regurgitated troll slop. The majority of the population, many of which avoid the forums for this sole reason, do not want to be subjected to this same crap in game.
batkiller
03-21-2012, 05:51 AM
Never even heard about this server until last week :( I had heard about Project 99, but I wasn't all that interested in playing EQ all over again. But I never spent all that much time on the PVP servers in EQ, so I was excited to play it again once I heard about this. Today is my first day :)
Aenor
03-21-2012, 09:31 AM
You need some gear Batkiller?
Ssleeve
03-21-2012, 11:52 AM
Welcome Bat
Sirken's post is a good example of the real problems that have doomed the server. Instead of actually trying to address player concerns or seeing why the population has dwindled he hand waves it all away and posts a bullshit strawman argument.
38% of the votes are due to GM issues (communication^^^ lololo + shortage of quality gms). 50% are due to the dwindling population + communication issues (global ooc/features + population topics).
Despite this, the poll results are ignored and the populace is called a bunch of collective pussies rather than dealing with the real issues.
Keep up the good communication GMs(+1 vote for that reason).
Couldn't have said it better myself-
WE HAVE BOSSES TO KILL!
http://www.maxfreak.com/diablo3/images/diablo-3-announcement.jpg
Palemoon
03-21-2012, 12:46 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself-
WE HAVE BOSSES TO KILL!
to answer the question for Haul since he seems to have no sense of shame:
Its because I was busted for RMT that put both servers at risk, it was a selfish move on my part and I should of just cut lawns for money after school instead.
is why he "quit"
It didn't put the servers at risk you're delusional, and so is anyone who thinks the same. TR is rmting the shit out of blue as we speak lol. You still sound sour from ALLLLLLLLL the times I pked you/xp deathed you on Natural when you were still tagged to Uprising Mr. Arzak the guildhopper.
Pitborn
03-21-2012, 01:09 PM
Add me to the quit list, effective now.
I've been playing the EQ PVP EMU's since VZTZ 1.0.
It's been real.
I've seen some real cunts in my time on the boxes, but the community here is the worst i've seen period.
At least on SZ Live which was notorious for assholes , (and other emus) the forums weren't a factor, here it seems there's more pvp from racist trolling and Polls about nothing, then ever happens in game anymore.
This isnt 4chan circa '01. 90% + of you faggots are in your 30s, and still get off from trying to literally grief people away from a game that is dependent on the few players it has left.
Think about it.
/Rant off.
Stay classy.
Palemoon
03-21-2012, 01:12 PM
Above is the 100 percent truth.
SamwiseRed
03-21-2012, 01:15 PM
My name is Samwise Gamgee and I AM the 1%.
steakshop
03-21-2012, 01:25 PM
its your money use it when you need it
steakshop
03-21-2012, 01:28 PM
i said that from day one its the worst playerbase ive ever seen in any game and to make the server successful its going to have to be big
big server requires 10x exp and people can recoop pvp / exp death losses fast and not care , beta was awesome , live? hahah fuck you classic exp unplug the box bros
J.G. Wentworth says the server won't have a good population because Diablo 3 is so excellent.
heartbrand
03-21-2012, 02:01 PM
Add me to the quit list, effective now.
I've been playing the EQ PVP EMU's since VZTZ 1.0.
It's been real.
I've seen some real cunts in my time on the boxes, but the community here is the worst i've seen period.
At least on SZ Live which was notorious for assholes , (and other emus) the forums weren't a factor, here it seems there's more pvp from racist trolling and Polls about nothing, then ever happens in game anymore.
This isnt 4chan circa '01. 90% + of you faggots are in your 30s, and still get off from trying to literally grief people away from a game that is dependent on the few players it has left.
Think about it.
/Rant off.
Stay classy.
Above poster wouldn't "allow" me to cross through misty thicket when I was level 30 to head to rivervale. Continued to train me with guards and try to break my invis / PK me. Told me it was his zone and passing through was not permitted. (Had a group with him of IF or else I would have dropped him) Now is talking about griefing. lolworthy
Marglar
03-21-2012, 02:12 PM
^lol
bamzal
03-21-2012, 02:21 PM
grief and let grief
Pitborn
03-21-2012, 02:49 PM
That event obviously touched you Heartbrand.
I've never pretended to be better then anyone else on the box, nor have i ever said i was a saint either.
Doesn't mean anything i said was invalid. Continue your White Knighting. I'm still done. 8)
Lovely Icecomet
03-21-2012, 02:50 PM
MADD QQS ALL AROUND
Advisor
03-21-2012, 05:16 PM
Diablo 3 doesn't launch with PvP.
Diablo 3 looks like everything Blizzard makes. Candy Land Crap.
steakshop
03-21-2012, 05:24 PM
Diablo 3 doesn't launch with PvP.
Diablo 3 looks like everything Blizzard makes. Candy Land Crap.
you forgot to add for retards
heartbrand
03-21-2012, 07:00 PM
That event obviously touched you Heartbrand.
I've never pretended to be better then anyone else on the box, nor have i ever said i was a saint either.
Doesn't mean anything i said was invalid. Continue your White Knighting. I'm still done. 8)
Not really, like all baddies you got your just desserts:
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5118/revengez.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/revengez.jpg/)
batkiller
03-21-2012, 07:28 PM
Thanks for the welcome :) And yeah I would be glad of any gear you can spare! I forgot just how slow original EQ was! Not sure how I will cope with that these days to be honest, but I like the idea of having to survive in a harsh world. And by the looks of it, it's very harsh! (p.s. Someone really named their guild Holocaust? :O Is that even allowed?)
Galanteer
03-22-2012, 04:45 PM
I quite the second or third week of server. (Izom 15th level enchanter)
Grew up on the good team SZ. (played 1st 16 months there -even formed and lead a guild!)
1/ On Red99, solo for two days in a row in WC, not once did anyone try to attack me. See invis would drop and I felt no need to keep it up. Others in my range would keep their distance. No feeling of threat if I just kept my distance and minded my own..... I am not aggressive by nature, yet am very tenacious in defense.
2/ Rule System: don't like the +/- range -hate the idea of immortal healers...
3/ Player Base: Joined a guild at the start, was disgusted by the guild chat. The forums are no better, yet easier to ignore.
4/ Transfers from blue to red: destroyed any sense of competition/legitimacy the server had to me.
5/ Cheaters, exploiters, win-no-matter-what crowd: I expected it, but not to the degree it manifested. I don't understand the mentality, will probably go to my grave in ignorance. (you know you cheated -so you know your victory is hollow)
6/ Broken elements at launch: guards not assisting (now do they even do it right? I left before that was patched), ignored feedback on recharging during beta, broken exploitable quests...
Harrison
03-22-2012, 05:52 PM
4/ Transfers from blue to red: destroyed any sense of competition/legitimacy the server had to me.
This never happened.
The rest is accurate.
loserofgame
03-22-2012, 06:05 PM
4/ Transfers from blue to red: destroyed any sense of competition/legitimacy the server had to me.
Do you mean plat transfers? Yes, it's a bit disappointing if you look at it from a purely balance perspective, and yes, some people take advantage of it to become extremely, extremely rich on one server or the other(or both!).
It's one of the caveats to making two servers under the same service. It's not perfect, but hey, it's free EQ.
Galanteer
03-22-2012, 07:24 PM
4/ Transfers from blue to red: destroyed any sense of competition/legitimacy the server had to me.
I did not word this correct, I meant trades of items on blue for items on red (or pp or characters) happens all the time, dozens and dozens of posts in the trade forum 'Blue PP for Red PP'
btw Harrison: I love reading the This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list. I just picture a red faced 8 year old with hands over ears chanting over and over "I can't hear you" after being outed for being a jerk.
batkiller
03-23-2012, 08:41 PM
Heh I quit too, didn't last as long as most! :P
I would come back if there was a new pvp server which fixes what Galanteer said, and ideally increased the XP rate too.
LizardNecro
03-24-2012, 02:33 PM
once you have played a few games completely ruined by bots and rmt you will see why its bad.
This.
This is why Aion (an an otherwise great game) became unplayable. I don't play any mmos where boxing, botting, or RMT is allowed.
LizardNecro
03-24-2012, 02:38 PM
2/ Rule System: don't like the +/- range -hate the idea of immortal healers...
+1 from another SZ veteran
s1ckness
06-02-2012, 02:59 AM
all of the above should be one of the questions
s1ckness
06-02-2012, 03:01 AM
sirken was about 6 months 2 late ..
im sure i will be talked into coming back 1 day tho ..
s1ckness
06-02-2012, 03:15 AM
velious or bust
Dullah
06-02-2012, 12:47 PM
I'm sure there were 430 individual r99 players to vote on that 2 months ago when r99 forum is basically the same 30-50 people every day.
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