What happened to this server?

[Flash]

When it first started it was more populated than the original P99 server, and now it's almost dead.

What went wrong?

[aerokella]

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[nerfed]

star wars time, epics on blue and eventually d3 and guild wars 2

[Grozmok]

lol @ SWTOR

[Albane]

Most of this server was made up of Blue players who came here for something different, since they were all done with Kunark. They came here, they were assholes and exploiters, they went back to Blue for their epics. The only people left are the few who were new to P99 and the people who prefer PvP over Blue.

[Lazortag]

Most of this server was made up of Blue players who came here for something different, since they were all done with Kunark. They came here, they were assholes and exploiters, they went back to Blue for their epics. ...

What are you even talking about?

[Alkorin]

it was more populated than the original P99 server

No, it wasn't, unless you happened to catch P99 in a slow moment and R99 on a major surge.

R99 had decent population for a while, and then people saw something shiny and moved on. Welcome to today's MMO scene.

[Autotune]

PvP players happened.

[bakkily]

one thing about guild wars 2, fuck it, doesnt really look good to me, though im going to try out terra, but then many of you are going to say what i said about gw2, but d3 looks damn good

but the servers doing fine over all, though often enough i run into boxers here or there

[Slave]

d3 looks damn good



Do you think so? That's really going out on a limb.

[oldfish]

We all have our take on why the server isnt doing as good population wise as wed like to.

Mine is that pvp xp loss should have been kept to zones like Lguk and fear.

XP loss fostered a zergish "If you got overwhelming numbers, crush, if you are undernumbered, run" environment.

No xp bonus and the long grind, coupled with that it was hard to take a break from the grind to pvp all day since all you would have done is set you back in the grind if you werent in a zerg guild like holo, is what i think reduced numbers in the first months. It was just like a blue server (meaning that people didnt pvp because of xp loss) except once in a while youd get run over and ganked by a zergsquad and add more grind on the pile. Lulz for people like holo but byebye to small crews of friends.

Now that im at the top, things are better, but it took a long time for me to start seeing people pvping on the regular.

People just raced to the top cuz pvp wasnt happening and was wondering where the content was after a month when the content should have been the incessant pvping.

Hopefully people get bored of epics and repopulate red a bit now that the xp bonus is in effect

[Vile]

Fast XP.. loots more rare (but not Searyx rare) = winbox.com

[bakkily]

well last night i solo'd 4 yells in about 2 1/2 hours, so yea im happy about the xp boost, other wise 4 yells would've taken me at least 4 hours which the last couple of months sucked, so far im at 8 days logged and near lvl 25, where as others with 7 days logged are at least lvl 30, but back durring lvl 13-19, i was being ganked all the time, not as much now

[Tassador]

this is a repetative caca post. I love me some red99 go bark up your storms on blue and then fight it out the only way you can. by talking it through.

[Within99]

Anyone know the max players before Kunark? Kinda interested..

Or just Max total.

[Harrison]

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Must be the lack of YT, Global OOC, etc. right?

It has nothing to do with this sort of thing:I will camp an AFK player's bindpoint until they are out of range. Hilarious.

You wonder why the population is down? This server is a vile cesspool of absolutely the worst bottom of the barrel manchildren ever.

Look at all the threads on this server PROUD of bind camping an afk player for hours on end, for quite literally no gain to themselves outside of their psychopathic obsession to take out their smallcock aggressions somewhere.

Entire guilds caught exploiting. Not a one of them removes these players from their guilds and deals with them like they would have been on live, they're congratulated and praised by the inbred hordes, instead.

Most of this playerbase REFUSED to beta test, and even so used it to find exploits and circulate them with their guilds of equally terrible baddies rather than find and fix bugs, balance issues, etc.

What did people do during beta? Cry about the experience rate (1000x, yes, one thousand times experience.) exploit (Cozmonaut exploiting the dynamic pvp range to kill lowbies 30+ levels below him.) etc.

What happened to this server? VZTZ leftovers who can't handle real pvp and have to cheat and grief on a 12 year-old game.

[William Henry Harrison]

you are so emotionally invested in a server you don't play on

[Harrison]

Says the kid following my every post on multiple banned accounts, with his friends who are also banned mongoloid knuckledraggers, that doesn't play here.

You're emotionally invested in something you're not even a part of.

[oldfish]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15678432.jpg

Must be the lack of YT, Global OOC, etc. right?

It has nothing to do with this sort of thing:

You wonder why the population is down? This server is a vile cesspool of absolutely the worst bottom of the barrel manchildren ever.

Look at all the threads on this server PROUD of bind camping an afk player for hours on end, for quite literally no gain to themselves outside of their psychopathic obsession to take out their smallcock aggressions somewhere.

Entire guilds caught exploiting. Not a one of them removes these players from their guilds and deals with them like they would have been on live, they're congratulated and praised by the inbred hordes, instead.

Most of this playerbase REFUSED to beta test, and even so used it to find exploits and circulate them with their guilds of equally terrible baddies rather than find and fix bugs, balance issues, etc.

What did people do during beta? Cry about the experience rate (1000x, yes, one thousand times experience.) exploit (Cozmonaut exploiting the dynamic pvp range to kill lowbies 30+ levels below him.) etc.

What happened to this server? VZTZ leftovers who can't handle real pvp and have to cheat and grief on a 12 year-old game.

Wow go outside man, i dont even feel like arguing with you anymore. This place is bad for your mental health. Im not trying to troll you, make you feel bad, im being friendly. Just stop.

Take up a good book, go take a cooking class. Do you really wanna look back on your life at 60 and think of all the time youve wasted repeating the same fucking thing on these forums?

Things are never black and white, not even on red99

[notCwall]

don't fucking quote harrison god damn

[Harrison]

Yeah, the irrelevant and miniscule xp loss in pvp is the reason and not any of the very real and disgusting issues I brought up.

[oldfish]

Yeah, the irrelevant and miniscule xp loss in pvp is the reason and not any of the very real and disgusting issues I brought up.

What issues? The server is 100% terrible persons that all played on VZTZ? like i did for like 2 days and got bored?

That everyone (more like 110% of server amirite, lets not get cheap on the hyperboles) likes bind camping even though many have stated they do not like it?

That people didnt wanna grind a character in beta to have it wiped and start the grind all over again on november 18th? Terrible terrible persons amirite?

If there was no xp loss in pvp, how much do you think bind camping would matter?

[Harrison]

1000x grind, oh so hard! Oh the humanity!

So, instead, let's not beta test at all and then cry about shit that isn't fixed after beta.

I can't even fathom the intellectual capacity needed to grasp the genius in that statement.

[Salty]

This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list.

[oldfish]

lol yes harrison you are really smart and everybody else (110%) is really dumb

[Kringe]

1000x grind, oh so hard! Oh the humanity!


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Your right, what level did you get again??? 10 I believe... Stfu and go on somewhere sir..... Too hard for you imo..

[Truth]

lol kringe with the bitchslap

[Harrison]

Working two jobs > beta testing a game for ungrateful pieces of cheating shit.

I have screenshots of asking people to help test resists and not a one of them helping with it. Now they cry about resists AFTER beta.

That is the type of player on this server, real Mensa members.

[Truth]

two jobs huh thought that meat cutting salary was all the hype

<patriot> lol kringe with the bitchslap
<Harrison> Half literate tweaker says what?
<Harrison> EQ too hard without MQ Naez?
<patriot> if im half literate with higher education than you
<patriot> does that make you illiterate?

[Kringe]

Walmart greeter + Walmart Ground beef maker doesnt = Two jobs...

Quick synopsis --
Post level 10 for harrison on EQ = Too hard for humanity!!!
"Trying to be cool stating I work 2 jobs within 1 company" = priceless


I posted several logs of resists, we brought this to their attention along with recharging months before the server launched.


Next?

[William Henry Harrison]

got higher level than harrison on beta while working and going to skewl

[steaks6]

Most of this server was made up of Blue players who came here for something different, since they were all done with Kunark. They came here, they were assholes and exploiters, they went back to Blue for their epics. The only people left are the few who were new to P99 and the people who prefer PvP over Blue.

[Harrison]

I leveled multiple characters to 50 on 1000x slower experience. You guys have to cheat to 50, and at your raid content.

Next?

[Silikten]

Most of this server was made up of Blue players who came here for something different, since they were all done with Kunark. They came here, they were assholes and exploiters, they went back to Blue for their epics. The only people left are the few who were new to P99 and the people who prefer PvP over Blue.

Agreed. Well said.

[Taxee]

I leveled multiple characters to 50 on 1000x slower experience. You guys have to cheat to 50, and at your raid content.

Next?

Youre a poopie head!

Magic marker cant erase it!

gnangangnagna cant hear you got chickenfingers in my ears

lalalalalala cant hear you

[SearyxTZ]

Too many "SERVER DEAD" threads (this thread isn't too far off tbh), and too many Harrison posts where he chimes in with his usual antagonistic forum dump onto the community.



Server release maybe wasn't as perfect as it could have been.

I think the XP thing is a huge step forward though. Opt-in channels and a closer-to-classic resist system would help, with community/socialization/economy and pvp balance, respectively.

I started up here a few weeks ago with my TZ fellows and we have at least 20 people playing at this point.

What we need to do is blast promotion for the server and grow the population. We want this server to be appealing to new players - casuals in particular - so let's talk about how we can do that instead of picking fights or taking another dump into the litter box.

[steaks6]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15678432.jpg

Must be the lack of YT, Global OOC, etc. right?

It has nothing to do with this sort of thing:

You wonder why the population is down? This server is a vile cesspool of absolutely the worst bottom of the barrel manchildren ever.

Look at all the threads on this server PROUD of bind camping an afk player for hours on end, for quite literally no gain to themselves outside of their psychopathic obsession to take out their smallcock aggressions somewhere.

Entire guilds caught exploiting. Not a one of them removes these players from their guilds and deals with them like they would have been on live, they're congratulated and praised by the inbred hordes, instead.

Most of this playerbase REFUSED to beta test, and even so used it to find exploits and circulate them with their guilds of equally terrible baddies rather than find and fix bugs, balance issues, etc.

What did people do during beta? Cry about the experience rate (1000x, yes, one thousand times experience.) exploit (Cozmonaut exploiting the dynamic pvp range to kill lowbies 30+ levels below him.) etc.

What happened to this server? VZTZ leftovers who can't handle real pvp and have to cheat and grief on a 12 year-old game.

this will be the only time i ever quote harrison , and somehow he got off ignore

he got everything right here except 1 thing

the exp on beta needed to be on live , without it , server had no chance

Repeat

WITHOUT BETA EXP THE SERVER HAD NO CHANCE

61 online right now /high five dudes i bet there all nihilum farming fear for gear they wont need / want in 5 seconds

[oldfish]

What we need to do is blast promotion for the server and grow the population. We want this server to be appealing to new players - casuals in particular - so let's talk about how we can do that instead of picking fights or taking another dump into the litter box.

First thing to do IMO would be to ban Harrison from the forums with a ten ton hammer so he doesnt shit up every single thread where we discuss how the server works.

[SearyxTZ]

I have an idea, pals.



Let's talk about what we can do now instead of what happened or could have been better 5 months ago.

[Kringe]

I leveled multiple characters to 50 on 1000x slower experience. You guys have to cheat to 50, and at your raid content.

Next?

Dont think you can get 1000x slower exp exaggerate more..... Also proof or stfu?

Notice you dodged the walmart greeter/meat cutter synopsis...

Cheat at raid content.... Pot kettle, black imo....


Stop dumping on the community with your worthless posts in every single thread created....

Few Tips/Hints guys--- Move on with life... Get over the bad girlfriend issue you had... There are bigger and better things out there... Shit man I will mail you a Tony Robbins Audio tape... Anything that could help you from being such a negative nancy about well... Life in general..

LMK bro... I got you..

[William Henry Harrison]

I leveled multiple characters to 50 on 1000x slower experience. You guys have to cheat to 50, and at your raid content.

Next?

you mean the one magician your brother helped you level and the multiple characters you bought?

[Harrison]

You guys can sit here and circlejerk while pontificating all you wish, but the fact remains that the fault lies with you and you alone.

This community has zero desire to improve itself and those that do wish to honestly improve the situation for the betterment of the health of the server, are in the minority.

Cheaters, griefers, and degenerates are congratulated and praised for their disgusting self-destructive behavior. Then, these same mouthbreathers ask "Y U NO LIVE SERVR?!!"

Then, you have the audacity to flood the forums ala janitor Cast, and blame the fucking staff for any supposed failure? You are quite possibly the dumbest collective of gamers I've ever come across. You are too big of pussies to man up and accept the consequences for your own actions. You cheat, and then blame the staff for not fixing the cheat you used. That is the type of moron we are dealing with here.

[SearyxTZ]

Don't even engage him, pls. New rule. Do not engage Harrison in stupid arguments.

[oldfish]

Don't even engage him, pls. New rule. Do not engage Harrison in stupid arguments.

I regret ever taking him off ignore, just not getting why they dont ban him.

Going to put him up back there and follow your advice.

[Lazortag]

We average about 150 players a night, and have maintained this average for months now. The server peaked at around 650 people on opening night, but most of those players were from blue, and didn't really plan on staying very long. I know that some were players from blue who DID plan on staying but just ended up disliking the server even more than blue. Also, a good number of players (both blue and non-blue) were probably cheaters who got banned early on. The fact that we started so high is what motivates people's view of the server having declined a lot, but that's silly because most of those players were just not realistically going to stay. It's not as if we lost 500 players. We maybe lost about 100-200 active players who would have considered staying on the server. Is this bad? Yes. Is this unsalvageable? No.

The reasons for the more serious players leaving are pretty varied. Some people left because they felt the exp was too slow, others left because they got griefed off the server, and some left because of the relatively low population (low population begets low population)/lack of global ooc. I don't think these are very good reasons for leaving, but those are the reasons people have given.

Some of this could have been prevented, some of it couldn't. If guard assist was in from the beginning I'm sure less people would have been killed at the docks/bank/etc. But I tend to agree with Finawin that the real problem is the players who enjoy griefing. All the dickheads who (a) killed someone next to the guards, (b) spammed root nets or other stupid rechargeable items on players, or (c) did anything that they knew shouldn't have been in the game just to get some small short-term advantage over other players - these players are partially at fault for the declining population. Unfortunately this isn't something the staff can change now - even I think most forms of griefing should be allowed (what fun is being anti-grief if there are no griefers to police?), and you can't fix people who are just assholes. The players can police this kind of behaviour themselves though. I got several Blood Money/Fish Bait members to detag back when both those guilds still existed, just by doing things like perma-mezzing them or charm-KSing their mobs and saying "I'll stop if you detag" or whatever. On some people this doesn't work though - I'm convinced that the players in Holo/FF right now have something irreparably wrong with their brains that causes them to grief no matter how much it's an inconvenience to themselves or their guilds' long-term goals.

Anyway the point I wanted to make was that getting back the players who left is really tricky, and instead we should focus on drawing in players who haven't played yet. I think one step towards this would be cleaning up these forums. For the people who play here, stop posting inane, nonconstructive criticism of the server and the staff. For the people who don't play here, shut the fuck up about how great you thought VZTZ was, or how bad this server is, when you have no idea what you're talking about. If you don't play you should be able to express your opinions on what might make you want to log in - you should NOT be able to spam the forums with "wipe it clean" type posts like Steaks, Darwoth, Purist, and other terminally stupid posters have done. Like Amelinda always says, we're all on the same side, so let's work on getting the population higher, and not posting stupid shit that will just drive away more players.

(TLDR: you can probably just read the first and last paragraphs to get an idea of what I'm saying)

[Angkar]

I have an idea, pals.



Let's talk about what we can do now instead of what happened or could have been better 5 months ago.

This.

I think the server is ok, just started here about a month ago, maybe 5 weeks. Got a RL pal playing now, made some friends, joined an active guild.

Not being able to exp in Sol B sucks. You go in there with a group of 35s, and have 50s coming to window just to 1 shot your group.

Harrison shitting up forums sucks. (I think the spamming "Harrison on ignore" message feeds his ego. Imo, just ignore him completely).

[Kringe]

For the people who play here, stop posting inane, nonconstructive criticism of the server and the staff. For the people who don't play here, shut the fuck up about how great you thought VZTZ was, or how bad this server is, when you have no idea what you're talking about. If you don't play you should be able to express your opinions on what might make you want to log in - you should NOT be able to spam the forums with "wipe it clean" type posts like Steaks, Darwoth, Purist,Harrison(who doesnt even play) and other terminally stupid posters have done.

Good post, fixed it for you...

[biscuits2455]

Servers no where near dead. Pop is fine.

[heartbrand]

If I have to see one more holier-than-thou post from Wolfram I'm going to bind camp newbies on a level 6 twinked alt. Nihilum was FOUNDED on griefing. Lovely anyone? Who invented the root net / golem wand spamming? Who was the first to exploit mage swords / wiz rods? Nihilum. Who was the first to exploit dragons? Nihilum. Troriste used to port newbs around to east karana, Fallen KSes level ones for fun. I could write a whole essay on this topic, but stop putting everything at the doorstep of Holo and FF and take a look at where you live my friend, every guild engages in "griefing" on this server, deal with it, adapt, move on.

[Slathar]

I'm convinced that the players in Holo/FF right now have something irreparably wrong with their brains that causes them to grief no matter how much it's an inconvenience to themselves or their guilds' long-term goals.

Lazortag, March 6, 2012.


This made me laugh really hard.

[Lazortag]

If I have to see one more holier-than-thou post from Wolfram I'm going to bind camp newbies on a level 6 twinked alt. Nihilum was FOUNDED on griefing. Lovely anyone? Who invented the root net / golem wand spamming? Who was the first to exploit mage swords / wiz rods? Nihilum. Who was the first to exploit dragons? Nihilum. Troriste used to port newbs around to east karana, Fallen KSes level ones for fun. I could write a whole essay on this topic, but stop putting everything at the doorstep of Holo and FF and take a look at where you live my friend, every guild engages in "griefing" on this server, deal with it, adapt, move on.

Remember how you said you had me on ignore? Funny how you're still able to respond to my posts. As for Nihilum, I'm an app to the guild and therefore not a representative of them, but of the top guilds Nihilum is clearly the one that griefs the least. As for the examples you gave, considering that you lie frequently about the most trivial things (like knowing who Checkraise is, or whether I'm on your ignore list or not), it's hard to take anything you say seriously.

[Nirgon]

Most of this server was made up of Blue players who came here for something different, since they were all done with Kunark. They came here, they were assholes and exploiters, they went back to Blue for their epics. The only people left are the few who were new to P99 and the people who prefer PvP over Blue.

I'll score you a point here.

And I'll add that it continues to grow steadily over time. I think the people that stay are the people who come as a group at this point.

[Thatguy05]

And ur wondering what happened to this server.... /rollseye

[Gongshow]

The trident: Poseidon, God of the Oceans' weapon of choice. Ancient mermen used to use this weapon in battle to fight against the crustacean armies and all the shrimps and jellyfish in the sea. I often come out here to this abandoned cement factory to harness its power. Learn its secrets. Think about life. Think about the game. They're the same thing you know.

[Vile]

Harrison ruined it

[goalie]

I got to tell you, I thought the blacks in Baltimore were bad, but turns out they're nothing compared to these fags you got in San Francisco.

[Xantille]

If I have to see one more holier-than-thou post from Wolfram I'm going to bind camp newbies on a level 6 twinked alt. Nihilum was FOUNDED on griefing. Lovely anyone? Who invented the root net / golem wand spamming? Who was the first to exploit mage swords / wiz rods? Nihilum. Who was the first to exploit dragons? Nihilum. Troriste used to port newbs around to east karana, Fallen KSes level ones for fun. I could write a whole essay on this topic, but stop putting everything at the doorstep of Holo and FF and take a look at where you live my friend, every guild engages in "griefing" on this server, deal with it, adapt, move on.

o man, I'm glad someone hit that 'griefers who exploited root nets' bit by gewgew out of the pahhhhhhhk.

[Lovely]

Founded on griefing?

More like founded on getting the best and most active people on the server to create the best guild.

I have to say I was one of the nicest people on the server to all those who deserved it. I just trashed all the scrubs who talked shit on forums/in game and during beta. All those people who said they would destroy me yadda yadda, those are the ones I targeted and I destroyed every single one of them and made most of them quit. If you talk shiit then you better be able to back it up or you get fucked.

I had never played Classic EQ before nor had I touched Everquest in like 10 years. I was a complete noob during beta, all I had was my awesome skill and gaming talent (and and a lot of time on my hands :D). During beta I met this dr00d called Flip who taught me most shiit I had to know for live and during live I met Silver/Jerrin and then Troriste who I continued to learn from until I basically knew every single trick in the book. Then I combined my awesomness with knowledge and dominated everyone who came in my way.

Sadly there wasn't any competition at all so I got bored quickly and therefor quit. Most people here has a lot of knowledge and time on their hands but their skill and mind in battle are truly lacking and therefor became easy prey. It basically felt like it was me Michael Jordan vs 400 NBA coaches in battle. Sure they know their shit outside the court. But once you put a ball in their hands then not much happens ;).

[heartbrand]

Casual players: left because the grind took way too long. It was okay in the beginning but as the population trickled down, having no one to play with in a group-oriented game had a domino effect.

Hardcore players: essentially unintentionally griefed themselves and everyone else at the high end off with the stupid arms race that occurred 40+. Guild A with 6 lost to Guild B with 10, so Guild A recruited 10 more. Guild B with 10 lost to Guild A with 16, so Guild B recruited 10 more, and so on. This meant both guilds were forced to play with shitty people they didn't like. It also meant that eventually one guild had a huge numbers advantage over the other and there was no one else left to recruit, resulting in the death of meaningful PvP.

If people were intelligent and kept things lean and evenly splintered among numerous rival guilds, the server could have been made fun and enjoyable for everyone. But intelligence isn't a common quality found among PvP players unfortunately.

Best post I've seen in a long time on these forums.

[Vile]

Founded on griefing?

More like founded on getting the best and most active people on the server to create the best guild.

I have to say I was one of the nicest people on the server to all those who deserved it. I just trashed all the scrubs who talked shit on forums/in game and during beta. All those people who said they would destroy me yadda yadda, those are the ones I targeted and I destroyed every single one of them and made most of them quit. If you talk shiit then you better be able to back it up or you get fucked.

I had never played Classic EQ before nor had I touched Everquest in like 10 years. I was a complete noob during beta, all I had was my awesome skill and gaming talent (and and a lot of time on my hands :D). During beta I met this dr00d called Flip who taught me most shiit I had to know for live and during live I met Silver/Jerrin and then Troriste who I continued to learn from until I basically knew every single trick in the book. Then I combined my awesomness with knowledge and dominated everyone who came in my way.

Sadly there wasn't any competition at all so I got bored quickly and therefor quit. Most people here has a lot of knowledge and time on their hands but their skill and mind in battle are truly lacking and therefor became easy prey. It basically felt like it was me Michael Jordan vs 400 NBA coaches in battle. Sure they know their shit outside the court. But once you put a ball in their hands then not much happens ;).
quoted for the lols

[fiegi]

Founded on griefing?

More like founded on getting the best and most active people on the server to create the best guild.

I have to say I was one of the nicest people on the server to all those who deserved it. I just trashed all the scrubs who talked shit on forums/in game and during beta. All those people who said they would destroy me yadda yadda, those are the ones I targeted and I destroyed every single one of them and made most of them quit. If you talk shiit then you better be able to back it up or you get fucked.

I had never played Classic EQ before nor had I touched Everquest in like 10 years. I was a complete noob during beta, all I had was my awesome skill and gaming talent (and and a lot of time on my hands :D). During beta I met this dr00d called Flip who taught me most shiit I had to know for live and during live I met Silver/Jerrin and then Troriste who I continued to learn from until I basically knew every single trick in the book. Then I combined my awesomness with knowledge and dominated everyone who came in my way.

Sadly there wasn't any competition at all so I got bored quickly and therefor quit. Most people here has a lot of knowledge and time on their hands but their skill and mind in battle are truly lacking and therefor became easy prey. It basically felt like it was me Michael Jordan vs 400 NBA coaches in battle. Sure they know their shit outside the court. But once you put a ball in their hands then not much happens ;).

This is the same guy who quit once people started hitting 45+ and getting gear. He could not longer 1 shot ppl with ice comet. More like no competition who can grind 20 hours a day is about right.

[Butthead]

gms dont seem to give a flying fuck about this server either...

iv had a petition up that was 'OK' by amelinda. jus had to get the head poppa gm chief to make the change... said to make it an offical petition. she said it might takea min tho cause theres aparently ALOT of others in front of mine...

its been over a month now, still havent heard anything back.

what kills me is that this server only has fucking like 200 ppl left on it, so evn if every single person petitioned.... lol...

feels like the staff has evn given up on us.



diiisbelief

[Nirgon]

Founded on griefing?

More like founded on getting the best and most active people on the server to create the best guild.

I have to say I was one of the nicest people on the server to all those who deserved it. I just trashed all the scrubs who talked shit on forums/in game and during beta. All those people who said they would destroy me yadda yadda, those are the ones I targeted and I destroyed every single one of them and made most of them quit. If you talk shiit then you better be able to back it up or you get fucked.

I had never played Classic EQ before nor had I touched Everquest in like 10 years. I was a complete noob during beta, all I had was my awesome skill and gaming talent (and and a lot of time on my hands :D). During beta I met this dr00d called Flip who taught me most shiit I had to know for live and during live I met Silver/Jerrin and then Troriste who I continued to learn from until I basically knew every single trick in the book. Then I combined my awesomness with knowledge and dominated everyone who came in my way.

Sadly there wasn't any competition at all so I got bored quickly and therefor quit. Most people here has a lot of knowledge and time on their hands but their skill and mind in battle are truly lacking and therefor became easy prey. It basically felt like it was me Michael Jordan vs 400 NBA coaches in battle. Sure they know their shit outside the court. But once you put a ball in their hands then not much happens ;).

The best leveler, sorry you never waited up.

[Null]

gms dont seem to give a flying fuck about this server either...

iv had a petition up that was 'OK' by amelinda. jus had to get the head poppa gm chief to make the change... said to make it an offical petition. she said it might takea min tho cause theres aparently ALOT of others in front of mine...

its been over a month now, still havent heard anything back.

what kills me is that this server only has fucking like 200 ppl left on it, so evn if every single person petitioned.... lol...

feels like the staff has evn given up on us.

diiisbelief

Clearly.

[Nirgon]

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[hijinks]

ya'll need to stop with the server is dying, 160 pop atm.

[Vile]

Vile for GM bros..

[Knuckle]

Clearly.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/20/LOL_Face.jpg

[Silikten]

Founded on griefing?

More like founded on getting the worst and all of the active people on the server to create the best guild.

Fixed. Wow, though. You do love to stroke your own dick man. Everything you said is a load of shit. You killed and got killed like every other person on this box. You think you win by insta-gating? Not sure you understand the meaning of defeat. You gating = you lost. A kill shot means dick to anyone who has more than an IQ of 10.

Also, to be fair. Nihilum doesn't understand griefing because about 6 people know how to pvp. The rest would consider KSing a mob hardcore griefing I imagine.

[Slave]

We want this server to be appealing to new players - casuals in particular - so let's talk about how we can do that

There is one game mechanic that could possibly do that, only one, and it is Teams.

[Zuranthium]

There isn't enough incentive to actually PvP on this PvP server. A higher population would help but, ultimately, most people would rather spend their time in PvE until level 50 and then start with the PvP. There needs to be greater reward for actually killing players. A ranking board is necessary, to start with. I really wanted a Good-Neutral-Evil PvP server as well, there are a lot of interesting dynamics it could bring to the game, but unfortunately that's not what this server is.

[SearyxTZ]

There isn't enough incentive to actually PvP on this PvP server. A higher population would help but, ultimately, most people would rather spend their time in PvE until level 50 and then start with the PvP. There needs to be greater reward for actually killing players. A ranking board is necessary, to start with. I really wanted a Good-Neutral-Evil PvP server as well, there are a lot of interesting dynamics it could bring to the game, but unfortunately that's not what this server is.

I think that has more to do with population.

I'm certainly willing to fight people at my level (even though I typically get my ass kicked because I'm wearing hobo armor made out of a trashbag and a +1 magic resist ring out of a gumball machine).

Teams wouldn't really change much. It'd just be big ass guild on one side (Nihilum) versus a few normal-sized guilds on other side (Holo, FF, etc). The casual experience would be similar.


I've beaten this to death already but global channels would have the single biggest impact on the server. With the server pop being low, we need it badly. This should have been in from the start. Forum trading sucks and takes away from any sense of in-game economy. New/casual players need to know that other players exist. Higher level players need to talk trash and provide easy incentive for PvP. There is little sense of community as it is disjointed among various guilds doing their own thing and clashing once in a while.

[SearyxTZ]

Also the pop HAS been fairly stable - 160'ish concurrent during weeknights.



At the very least I think we could convert a few more blue players than we have right now. There are some strong selling points for this server -- the PvP aspect, actually fighting for raid targets instead of doing the carebear rotation bullshit, better EXP curve, more ripe server economy, etc.

If you play and post here then you need to look at this as the better of the two servers regardless of the difference in population, because it is better, and potential players damn well need to recognize that. We're not selling a sinking ship here. If you played on the old Zek servers, you already know that they are playing the stripped down dull version of Everquest on the blue servers. And that EQ's world PvP is better than the instance minigame crap in WoW and Star Wars.

[Harrison]

Use irc if you want global.

The lfg tool is on.

All cryfests for global ooc negated.

[pasi]

A steady 150 population is still the highest we've seen for an emulated PvP server. There aren't that many more people out there looking to play classic Everquest PvP in 2012. Using (Blue99 Population / EQ Blue Servers Population) as a reflection of EQ PvE and comparing it to (Red99 Population / EQ Red Servers Population), we're probably doing better than we should.

Not that it matters as the server has already launched, but the only way to poach a significant amount of people from Blue was teams (obviously, with the major issues of teams fixed). This has been beaten to death and if you care to read about, go to the back pages of these forums circa April 2011.

I haven't seen this brought up, but I think there is an issue with raid content not being scaled to population. When it takes 30 people (20-25% of the population online) to kill a raid mob, and guilds have to fend off enemies while doing so, it leads to over recruiting and the death of raid PvP. I'm not really sure if it is a good idea to scale raid content to the population, but the effects of having classic (well, P99 encounters are noticeably harder than classic ever was) encounters on a server with a small population are definitely observable.

[skorge]

Red 99 is what it is. The server will never see a "healthy" population like blue because it does not draw enough new players to it like blue has. Without new players coming to the server consistently, the server will gradually decrease in population (makes sense).

The real question is, why don't more people want to come to Red vs Blue? Go back to '99/'00. The same issue arose here. There were only what 2 or 3 pvp servers compared to 15 or so blue servers? This tells you that the average person would prefer to play EQ PVE vs EQ PVP.

It's not really the dev's fault here the population is as low as it is. Sure, the fact Red 99 does not see as much attention as blue, hurts the population but it's not the real issue.

Like I said earlier, for the server to not fail it needs to create more players, it's not doing that now. There are things you can do to help, mainly just helping out any new players you see. If they have a pleasant experience they will tell others about it (word of mouth travels fast).

[Harrison]

Red 99 is what it is. The server will never see a "healthy" population like blue because it does not draw enough new players to it like blue has. Without new players coming to the server consistently, the server will gradually decrease in population (makes sense).

The real question is, why don't more people want to come to Red vs Blue? Go back to '99/'00. The same issue arose here. There were only what 2 or 3 pvp servers compared to 15 or so blue servers? This tells you that the average person would prefer to play EQ PVE vs EQ PVP.

It's not really the dev's fault here the population is as low as it is. Sure, the fact Red 99 does not see as much attention as blue, hurts the population but it's not the real issue.

Like I said earlier, for the server to not fail it needs to create more players, it's not doing that now. There are things you can do to help, mainly just helping out any new players you see. If they have a pleasant experience they will tell others about it (word of mouth travels fast).

You mean corpse camping, bind camping, and being a fucking massive douche is bad for the server? No way. I think griefers bind camping people for no reason need bans. They are ruining the server, too.

[Hovis]

We average about 150 players a night, and have maintained this average for months now. The server peaked at around 650 people on opening night, but most of those players were from blue, and didn't really plan on staying very long. I know that some were players from blue who DID plan on staying but just ended up disliking the server even more than blue. Also, a good number of players (both blue and non-blue) were probably cheaters who got banned early on. The fact that we started so high is what motivates people's view of the server having declined a lot, but that's silly because most of those players were just not realistically going to stay. It's not as if we lost 500 players. We maybe lost about 100-200 active players who would have considered staying on the server. Is this bad? Yes. Is this unsalvageable? No.

The reasons for the more serious players leaving are pretty varied. Some people left because they felt the exp was too slow, others left because they got griefed off the server, and some left because of the relatively low population (low population begets low population)/lack of global ooc. I don't think these are very good reasons for leaving, but those are the reasons people have given.

Some of this could have been prevented, some of it couldn't. If guard assist was in from the beginning I'm sure less people would have been killed at the docks/bank/etc. But I tend to agree with Finawin that the real problem is the players who enjoy griefing. All the dickheads who (a) killed someone next to the guards, (b) spammed root nets or other stupid rechargeable items on players, or (c) did anything that they knew shouldn't have been in the game just to get some small short-term advantage over other players - these players are partially at fault for the declining population. Unfortunately this isn't something the staff can change now - even I think most forms of griefing should be allowed (what fun is being anti-grief if there are no griefers to police?), and you can't fix people who are just assholes. The players can police this kind of behaviour themselves though. I got several Blood Money/Fish Bait members to detag back when both those guilds still existed, just by doing things like perma-mezzing them or charm-KSing their mobs and saying "I'll stop if you detag" or whatever. On some people this doesn't work though - I'm convinced that the players in Holo/FF right now have something irreparably wrong with their brains that causes them to grief no matter how much it's an inconvenience to themselves or their guilds' long-term goals.

Anyway the point I wanted to make was that getting back the players who left is really tricky, and instead we should focus on drawing in players who haven't played yet. I think one step towards this would be cleaning up these forums. For the people who play here, stop posting inane, nonconstructive criticism of the server and the staff. For the people who don't play here, shut the fuck up about how great you thought VZTZ was, or how bad this server is, when you have no idea what you're talking about. If you don't play you should be able to express your opinions on what might make you want to log in - you should NOT be able to spam the forums with "wipe it clean" type posts like Steaks, Darwoth, Purist, and other terminally stupid posters have done. Like Amelinda always says, we're all on the same side, so let's work on getting the population higher, and not posting stupid shit that will just drive away more players.

(TLDR: you can probably just read the first and last paragraphs to get an idea of what I'm saying)

this is just a bad troll right? lmao

[Hovis]

Red 99 is what it is. The server will never see a "healthy" population like blue because it does not draw enough new players to it like blue has. Without new players coming to the server consistently, the server will gradually decrease in population (makes sense).

The real question is, why don't more people want to come to Red vs Blue? Go back to '99/'00. The same issue arose here. There were only what 2 or 3 pvp servers compared to 15 or so blue servers? This tells you that the average person would prefer to play EQ PVE vs EQ PVP.

It's not really the dev's fault here the population is as low as it is. Sure, the fact Red 99 does not see as much attention as blue, hurts the population but it's not the real issue.

Like I said earlier, for the server to not fail it needs to create more players, it's not doing that now. There are things you can do to help, mainly just helping out any new players you see. If they have a pleasant experience they will tell others about it (word of mouth travels fast).

spoken like a boss, i like it

[icreepin]

I have had a chance to read a few of the threads on the forum. Sullon zek had the same issues in EQ cause the rule set was so defined. Not saying that that is the issue here since i havent played but i do know that how you treat new players will either make or break any server or game. The thought proccess that its a pvp server so the weak will just be made to submit is something that every player will learn in time. so far my experience has been a positive one since i had questions and people have helped a lot with answers and advice and i havent even started playing yet.

[Flash]

I played this server the first day it launched. After a couple days I got fed up with the lack of town safety and quit.

The server was loaded with players then.

[bakkily]

absolutely true skorge! but i came to red because i enjoy pvp, good combat v.s enemy guilds...ect, but also most peeps are at blue because for one the servers been out for awhile, and someone new can get free gear, help ect, or they work hard on their char and join a guild by the time they're lvl 20 and recieve help

on red, its a bit diffrent because its still a new server, durring christmas break, i got 3 weeks off from work, and grinded the shit out of lvls 6-19 solo, sometimes i found groups, but for the most part ive been doing all my lvling solo, and thats the other problem on our server, ive seen enough mages, necros, shamans (reason i play this class because i enjoy it the most), bards, pretty much i see most of the server playing solo classes, then tanks, rogs ect, though when kunark comes out, itll even out the server, because for one way better gear, and two better spots to xp at, but the biggest thing this server needs to show, is kindness to the newcomers

[Bkab]

The trident: Poseidon, God of the Oceans' weapon of choice. Ancient mermen used to use this weapon in battle to fight against the crustacean armies and all the shrimps and jellyfish in the sea. I often come out here to this abandoned cement factory to harness its power. Learn its secrets. Think about life. Think about the game. They're the same thing you know.

didn't read this thread/don't care to, stumbled upon this post and had to quote it.

[heartbrand]

Casual players: left because the grind took way too long. It was okay in the beginning but as the population trickled down, having no one to play with in a group-oriented game had a domino effect.

Hardcore players: essentially unintentionally griefed themselves and everyone else at the high end off with the stupid arms race that occurred 40+. Guild A with 6 lost to Guild B with 10, so Guild A recruited 10 more. Guild B with 10 lost to Guild A with 16, so Guild B recruited 10 more, and so on. This meant both guilds were forced to play with shitty people they didn't like. It also meant that eventually one guild had a huge numbers advantage over the other and there was no one else left to recruit, resulting in the death of meaningful PvP.

If people were intelligent and kept things lean and evenly splintered among numerous rival guilds, the server could have been made fun and enjoyable for everyone. But intelligence isn't a common quality found among PvP players unfortunately.

Reiker was only one who really hit the nail on the head in this thread

[Slave]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0l3QWUXVho

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[Humerox]

I played this server the first day it launched. After a couple days I got fed up with the lack of town safety and quit.

Personally I think this is what lost red the largest number of players. Nothing can be done to bring anyone back imho.

Except...and this isn't a troll.

1. Start over. Put all the fixes in a huge post (guard assist, exploits fixed, yadda-yadda).

2. Put in global OOC.

3. Get some more damn volunteers to moderate both the forums and the game.

4. Implement at least 10X xp for the first two weeks.

[Slathar]

Personally I think this is what lost red the largest number of players. Nothing can be done to bring anyone back imho.

Except...and this isn't a troll.

1. Start over. Put all the fixes in a huge post (guard assist, exploits fixed, yadda-yadda).

2. Put in global OOC.

3. Get some more damn volunteers to moderate both the forums and the game.

4. Implement at least 10X xp for the first two weeks.

Pretty much this.

[Nirgon]

Start over, same thing happens

[heartbrand]

It takes literally 8 hours to get to level 35 with a simple druid PL, this server doesn't need a wipe.

[oldfish]

Personally I think this is what lost red the largest number of players. Nothing can be done to bring anyone back imho.

Except...and this isn't a troll.

1. Start over. Put all the fixes in a huge post (guard assist, exploits fixed, yadda-yadda).

2. Put in global OOC.

3. Get some more damn volunteers to moderate both the forums and the game.

4. Implement at least 10X xp for the first two weeks.

Lawl no

How many new players you think we would get vs the ones wed lose already here that arent willing to grind another character AGAIN to 50? I wouldnt start over, id quit.

Most new players dont know about the dragon shit exploit and dont care, I know about it and dont care.

The new guys just come and roll a toon IMO, not sure how wiping would help, more like kill the pop for good.

[Humerox]

It takes literally 8 hours to get to level 35 with a simple druid PL, this server doesn't need a wipe.

Agreed, but the object is to bring a large number of players in and get them to stay.

Druid PL's ain't gonna do it.

The work's already been done for a wipe...no recharge items, guard assist, leveling exploits fixed, etc. Call what we've done a final beta since hardly anyone participated in the first one.

[heartbrand]

You will lose many more than gain from a wipe, I know I wouldn't return.

[Nirgon]

Still some fixes I'd want :P

+ launch it with Kunark

[Humerox]

Lawl no

How many new players you think we would get vs the ones wed lose already here that arent willing to grind another character AGAIN to 50? I wouldnt start over, id quit.

What kind of starting XP would make you stay? I'm sure a few people might quit if they couldn't make insta-50...but seriously...is the server fun atm?

[heartbrand]

It probably isn't fun because you're in a zerg PVE guild doing the same stale content that has existed for 12 years that has no risk of failure.

[Supreme]

Server lost players because epics released a week after Red opened.

[Humerox]

It probably isn't fun because you're in a zerg PVE guild doing the same stale content that has existed for 12 years that has no risk of failure.

Try to keep the flames down, lol. I'm being serious. A wipe could kill a lot of things...including zerg guilds. Think about it.

[heartbrand]

Just to expand upon my point, gearing up in PVE used to be fun because you needed the gear to be able to tackle the next tier and the next higher mob, etc., etc., however, classic is so gimped due to charmed mobs and pets gear really is meaningless. You're grinding gear that ultimately makes no real tangible difference (outside a couple of weapons and what not), shouldn't come as a surprise that there's going to be burn out.

Only real "fix" in my opinion is to encourage PVP through things like a leaderboard, yellow text, global ooc, etc, potentially some sort of item loot with restrictions, anything to make this server something other than another PVE server.

[Supreme]

35 people=Zerg.


LOL.

[SearyxTZ]

It probably isn't fun because you're in a zerg PVE guild doing the same stale content that has existed for 12 years that has no risk of failure.

I'm not even into the high-end scene yet but he does have a point here.

I do checks with /who on the various guilds pretty frequently (Holocaust, Founding Fathers, Brotherhood, Nihilum, and my own guild).

Nihilum is by far the largest, and from what I understand, by far the most dominant in terms of controlling the major raid targets and zones.


I wouldn't necessarily expect them to solve this problem on their own (ie: splinter their guild into two), because it's nice being on top and I understand that. The best case scenario is that the various smaller guilds are able to work together to start bringing down Goliath. ;)

[Harrison]

It probably isn't fun because you're in a zerg PVE guild doing the same stale content that has existed for 12 years that has no risk of failure.

This guy was caught cheating at the same stale content that has existed for 12 years with "no risk of failure"

Irony?

[Dullah]

Actually heartbrand was neither holocaust nor nihilum during the times where exploitations were used.

[Snufz]

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[Harrison]

Actually heartbrand was neither holocaust nor nihilum during the times where exploitations were used.

He admitted otherwise in IRC himself.

[Nirgon]

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[Harrison]

Total Posts: 3,755
Posts Per Day: 13.66
Join Date: Jun 2011

Confirmed unemployed and worthless.

[Diggles]

At least he played on the server, harrison. You don't have an excuse

[Snufz]

It's funny how Harrison can so absolutely humiliated by his pathetic real life, with confirmed facts, yet he continues to post here when everyone knows his failures.

This messageboard must be the last meaningful thing left in his shitty life.

[Harrison]

Don't quit your day job, if you even have one. Psychology isn't your thing.

You guys don't know anywhere near as much as you think you do, yet pathetically keep trying to dig for more(and fail at it).

You just rage out because I keep pointing out how bad you are at a game, or make fun of your buttbuddies who DO cheat.

[Snufz]

^ Prob responding to a person who has him on ignore.

[Envious]

Nirgon's graph made me Lol

[mwatt]

Up front, I want to say that I am full blue. That means that some of you will read no futher. Perhaps those who want another perspective will read on.

Lazortag made a pretty good summation post concerning the the reasons for much of the player loss on Red. Oddly enough, he is saying pretty much the same thing that Harrison says, except he says it less vehemently.

Harrison, IMO, is giving you a Reddishly delivered version of the problems on Red. He is out-right attacking and doesn't care if he provokes a belligerent response in fact I believe he may just enjoy it. His delivery is full of emotional content and destructive in nature.

Lazortag is giving you a Blueishly delivered version of the problems on Red. He speaks reasonably and thoughtfully. He seeks to gain accord and is contructive. His delivery is intellectual in nature.

What I find noteworthy is that you reject Harrison - probably mostly because of his approach - but you don't appear to be backing Lazortag either.

Sorry if you find my observations out of place. I find the occasional Red flag waving annoying in the Blue forums. I probably should have just stayed out of it.

[Diggles]

He isn't giving a "reddishly" delivered version of the problems on Red. He's giving us bullshit that hasn't been true for months and he's doing it to try to incite anger, because he's been bullied off the server.

[Harrison]

Yeah, bullied by the astoundingly high zero times I died in pvp on beta. You can't bully me out of anything. It just isn't possible.

You make things up to discredit the facts behind what I say, and it doesn't work.

[Diggles]

and he's trying to talk to someone while blocked again

[Nirgon]

This message is hidden because you are throwin' hunneds, hunneds while Harrison is on your ignore list.

[Steaks2]

Just to expand upon my point, gearing up in PVE used to be fun because you needed the gear to be able to tackle the next tier and the next higher mob, etc., etc., however, classic is so gimped due to charmed mobs and pets gear really is meaningless. You're grinding gear that ultimately makes no real tangible difference (outside a couple of weapons and what not), shouldn't come as a surprise that there's going to be burn out.

Only real "fix" in my opinion is to encourage PVP through things like a leaderboard, yellow text, global ooc, etc, potentially some sort of item loot with restrictions, anything to make this server something other than another PVE server.

you arent getting leaderboard , global ooc or yellow text

shut the fuck up about it jesus

[Steaks2]

You will lose many more than gain from a wipe, I know I wouldn't return.

yes you would , because you are a fucking loser like everyone else here

everything he said is true , without 10x exp , server had no chance

look how many are on right now bros

[Steaks2]

lol , nirgon good graph dude

and yea you need a job all you do is complain here , time to move on cast

[Angkar]

Server is fine, I usually have more of a problem deciding what group to join than I do finding them.

Nirgon's graph was pretty funny.

[Zuranthium]

Server is fine, I usually have more of a problem deciding what group to join than I do finding them.

You're a Cleric and play 20 hours a day, so....:p

[Not_Kazowi]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15678432.jpg

Must be the lack of YT, Global OOC, etc. right?

It has nothing to do with this sort of thing:

You wonder why the population is down? This server is a vile cesspool of absolutely the worst bottom of the barrel manchildren ever.

Look at all the threads on this server PROUD of bind camping an afk player for hours on end, for quite literally no gain to themselves outside of their psychopathic obsession to take out their smallcock aggressions somewhere.

Entire guilds caught exploiting. Not a one of them removes these players from their guilds and deals with them like they would have been on live, they're congratulated and praised by the inbred hordes, instead.

Most of this playerbase REFUSED to beta test, and even so used it to find exploits and circulate them with their guilds of equally terrible baddies rather than find and fix bugs, balance issues, etc.

What did people do during beta? Cry about the experience rate (1000x, yes, one thousand times experience.) exploit (Cozmonaut exploiting the dynamic pvp range to kill lowbies 30+ levels below him.) etc.

What happened to this server? VZTZ leftovers who can't handle real pvp and have to cheat and grief on a 12 year-old game.


You say the same thing about any and every PVP server on EQEMU. I mean what do you expect man? The type of people who play pvp are a little more hardcore and dickish. Your "idea" of a perfect pvp server will NEVER exist. Just shut the fuck up for christ sake man. No one has any respect for you, do you realize that

[Truth]

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