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gaard the tard
03-04-2012, 03:40 PM
Rallyd and Fallen are banned for abusing IP exemption, using MQ2 to insta camp etc...?

...or how long before avg server pop drops from 100 to 45?

Sirken
03-04-2012, 03:43 PM
as long as it takes to be witnessed by staff or (quality)fraps'd by a player and sent to staff.

pretty easy answer imo, and pretty shocking you havent figured it out by now.

William Henry Harrison
03-04-2012, 03:45 PM
Your name lives up to your posting quality, my dear Mr. Tard.

gaard the tard
03-04-2012, 03:53 PM
as long as it takes to be witnessed by staff or (quality)fraps'd by a player and sent to staff.

pretty easy answer imo, and pretty shocking you havent figured it out by now.

Exactly how many times does a player have to do it blatantly with no punishment for a population to correctly assume that GM's are complicit? 50-100?

You've been doing this how long Sirken? It's shocking to the whole population that you haven't figured it out by now that if you wantonly disregard enforcing rules and handing out bunches of IP exexmptions to those known to 2 box that this is what will happen.

If you can't catch what 50% of the server has witnessed, then it's you that has the problem. You know... super low population. Your average population is 75% below your peak population, and you would rather spend time on boards arguing with the truth than simply enforcing rules.

Crazycloud
03-04-2012, 04:06 PM
as long as it takes to be witnessed by staff or (quality)fraps'd by a player and sent to staff.

pretty easy answer imo, and pretty shocking you havent figured it out by now.


Can't this easily be traced through logs? I have witnessed people do it in mass pvp while gms were in zone, then told about it and pretty much did nothing. Can't you easily find out if IP was used to kick the player out at around XXX time?

heartbrand
03-04-2012, 04:14 PM
I have personally seen this myself from Fallen AT LEAST 6 + times, reported it, no action. Gave up eventually, servers a joke.

Palemoon
03-04-2012, 04:18 PM
Exactly how many times does a player have to do it blatantly with no punishment for a population to correctly assume that GM's are complicit? 50-100?
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Ask Crazycloud or Xantille or some of the other recenty suspended and banned rule breakers, they should know.

heartbrand
03-04-2012, 04:20 PM
All you're doing is proving how corrupt this server is. Beovvulf frapped with CT cycle, no punishment, skelly frapped training, no punishment, emumu frapped training, no punishment, etc., etc.

heartbrand
03-04-2012, 04:20 PM
and amelinda has seen fallen doing it but gave him a warning, if this had happened to a holo member would be instant ban

Lazortag
03-04-2012, 04:20 PM
"I reported something with no evidence and now I'm mad that the staff didn't punish the person I reported. This server is such a joke that I'm going to continue playing on it 8+ hours a day and posting on their forums."

heartbrand
03-04-2012, 04:22 PM
Or except we've posted video tap evidence, /reports of players ADMITTING TO SAID ACTIONS, etc., gtfo honestly, you don't shit about this server it's embarassing

Lazortag
03-04-2012, 04:26 PM
In the worlds of Samuel L. Jackson: "English motherfucker, do you speak it?"

Nirgon
03-04-2012, 04:30 PM
"I reported something with no evidence."

Emumu has been seen doing it and was unsuspended for his "Oh I didn't know I couldn't do that" defense - after we'd come after him about it many times and he'd done it back to back to back to back to back to back in PvP.

Fallen? Same deal. 10 times in a row+ one night.

And it may not be from an IP exemption. It could be MQ or another bug we don't know about. The truth is, they definitely insta poof at the threat of death. It has game breaking implications when breaking into plane of fear / pvp.

Ban.

Sirken
03-04-2012, 04:42 PM
Exactly how many times does a player have to do it blatantly with no punishment for a population to correctly assume that GM's are complicit? 50-100?
You've been doing this how long Sirken? It's shocking to the whole population that you haven't figured it out by now that if you wantonly disregard enforcing rules and handing out bunches of IP exexmptions to those known to 2 box that this is what will happen.
If you can't catch what 50% of the server has witnessed, then it's you that has the problem. You know... super low population. Your average population is 75% below your peak population, and you would rather spend time on boards arguing with the truth than simply enforcing rules.
i already answered u, 1 time witnessed or fraps'd
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pretty sure theres a few suspended kids right now that would disagree with you about rule enforcement, and i dont do IP exemptions, so nice try. -
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i'm sure that the problem is me. i mean, i can't read minds, or predict the future, i'm so clearly useless. and 70 posts in 2 years? im clearly trolling the forums day and night.
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Can't this easily be traced through logs? I have witnessed people do it in mass pvp while gms were in zone, then told about it and pretty much did nothing. Can't you easily find out if IP was used to kick the player out at around XXX time?
i'm sure some people can, but myself and amelinda can not. theres a lot of things i could do on the old server that i can not do here. please do not assume i have the same access or abilities. this is a different server and a different staff.
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I have personally seen this myself from Fallen AT LEAST 6 + times, reported it, no action. Gave up eventually, servers a joke.
ever fraps it? ever send it to Sirken? because as awesome as the players are, staff will not ban a player simply based on the word of another player.
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Or except we've posted video tap evidence, /reports of players ADMITTING TO SAID ACTIONS, etc., gtfo honestly, you don't shit about this server it's embarassing
any player that has sent me a legit evidence has always received a reply. posting fraps in a RNF thread is not the same as PMing it to a staff member. you have NEVER sent me any of those things you mention. and as far as not giving a shit about the server or the pvp environment, you're right, i don;t care, im really only here because i get off on being berated, insulted, and verbally abused by ungrateful players.

heartbrand
03-04-2012, 05:07 PM
this was all to amelinda, you've been here I think 2.5 weeks now, or 3 weeks, basically a couple of days after all this shit went down and at least I, personally, gave up caring, so not particularly directed @ you

Nirgon
03-04-2012, 05:24 PM
OK so try Sirken. I'll attest to the fact he's been on the ball as far as responses and his experience is very PvP centric in being a guide.

Also, from what I understand, he doesn't also have to put up with the madness of the bluebie server (where all the trash ACTUALLY came from tbh).

Sirken
03-04-2012, 05:41 PM
Also, from what I understand, he doesn't also have to put up with the madness of the bluebie server (where all the trash ACTUALLY came from tbh).

thats actually a really good point. people forget that Amelinda also has to deal with the hundreds of kids on blue that cry over everything ("omg playerA isn't waiting his turn in line for my camp!"), as well as everything that occur on the red server.

me personally, i only guide on Red currently, and as such am not splitting my time between two servers, so i have more time for the red pals ;)

William Henry Harrison
03-04-2012, 06:03 PM
i would pod all of you if i had the chance no lie

steaks6
03-04-2012, 06:23 PM
if its so bad why play on the server bros

come to uthgard , be merry , win

progress in pvp

Nirgon
03-04-2012, 06:32 PM
To be sure if you tried any of this cheating or 2 boxing shit on that DAoC server you would get GM axe murdered.

Envious
03-04-2012, 06:32 PM
people forget that Amelinda also has to deal with the hundreds of kids on blue that cry over everything ("omg playerA isn't waiting his turn in line for my camp!"), as well as everything that occur on the red server.

Seriously, get off her dick.

You fucking morons do nothing but piss people off, then cry, and expect help.

Get out of your parents basements, and fucking learn how the world works.

Amelinda
03-04-2012, 07:55 PM
Can't this easily be traced through logs? I have witnessed people do it in mass pvp while gms were in zone, then told about it and pretty much did nothing. Can't you easily find out if IP was used to kick the player out at around XXX time?

As you have been told like 900x in the past (or at the very least ppl in your guild have been told repeatedly - NO. that's not something easily searchable - in fact I don't know that it's even something we log. I'm sure if it's useful that rogean logs it but I don't have direct access to it. I have to submit my query to nilbog who runs queries for me.

as for people doing stuff with me in the zone - if i'm not lookin at em - dude how can i punish them??? that would be like someone saying "Crazycloud trained me" and providing me no evidence but because i was in the zone choosing to suspend you. Any time i've suspended anyone I had evidence.

I have personally seen this myself from Fallen AT LEAST 6 + times, reported it, no action. Gave up eventually, servers a joke.

I'm sorry Heartbrand...but have you recently been playing EQ from my lap? I ask this because I take action on things that are reported but honestly? i NEVER go back to the person who petitioned and say "Yeah...that bastard was a dirty boxer man....we caught him!! good job!!!" or whatever......

All you're doing is proving how corrupt this server is. Beovvulf frapped with CT cycle, no punishment, skelly frapped training, no punishment, emumu frapped training, no punishment, etc., etc.

Were the frapses submitted via petition forum and kept bumped to ensure they were seen? Again - i ask. have you been playing eq from my lap invisibly???? Because otherwise i'm fairly sure you wouldn't have a clue WHAT my punishment would be if people were punished. (And I DO punish players.)

and amelinda has seen fallen doing it but gave him a warning, if this had happened to a holo member would be instant ban

yes. clearly i am anti-holocaust and would NEVER EVER EVER go to rogean and ask him to make a permaban a 2-week suspension instead. I would NEVER go to bat for holocaust and would never ever try to be fair. you caught me. i'm one corrupt bitch. good job.

Seriously, get off her dick.

You fucking morons do nothing but piss people off, then cry, and expect help.

Get out of your parents basements, and fucking learn how the world works.

I agree with most of your post. Except the part about Sirken getting off of my lady bits. He is welcome there!!!! Sirken & I are pals. :)

Carry on.

Sirken
03-04-2012, 07:57 PM
Seriously, get off her dick.
You fucking morons do nothing but piss people off, then cry, and expect help.
Get out of your parents basements, and fucking learn how the world works.
obviously all true.



and thanks for again putting me in my rightful place with your awesome intelligence, cause i'd clearly be lost without you. when you get a minute from your obviously busy and important life, please sir, do teach me how the world works, i yearn for your knowledge.

Amelinda
03-04-2012, 07:59 PM
Oh yeah. I forgot to add. Hi peppers (OP) Why so much hate for my boy sirken?

Bkab
03-04-2012, 08:00 PM
as long as it takes to be witnessed by staff or (quality)fraps'd by a player and sent to staff.

pretty easy answer imo, and pretty shocking you havent figured it out by now.

what about screenshots? i have one of rallyd on grey getting mezzed then instantly /qing trying to avoid death

Sirken
03-04-2012, 08:02 PM
what about screenshots? i have one of rallyd on grey getting mezzed then instantly /qing trying to avoid death

screen shots have to be pretty impressive since they are still images that usually make it hard to really understand the situation. but send it, ill look at anything.

Bkab
03-04-2012, 08:07 PM
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=556450&postcount=16

Bkab
03-04-2012, 08:09 PM
situation: we chase grey out of lower guk to innothule, jaleean (enc) catches him as he tries to book it out towards the swamp, and immediately /q's but doesn't get out before we can kill him.

Lazortag
03-04-2012, 08:14 PM
I'm just not seeing what you're seeing. All that shows is Grey /q'ing. It doesn't show him/her trying to /q instantly. Quitting out of the game mid-pvp is legitimate so long as you don't poof out of the game less than 30 seconds later. If a Bard chain mezzes you but you don't think they have the DPS to kill you in 30 seconds then you should be able to /q out to avoid grief.

Bkab
03-04-2012, 08:17 PM
shut the fuck up lazorfag, if i cared what you thought i would have asked. fucking nerd

Lazortag
03-04-2012, 08:19 PM
shut the fuck up lazorfag, if i cared what you thought i would have asked. fucking nerd

So after I call you out on not having any evidence, you resort to calling me a "fag" and a "nerd".

Gongshow
03-04-2012, 08:19 PM
have you been playing eq from my lap invisibly????

Play EQ on my lap.

Bkab
03-04-2012, 08:24 PM
no i just get sick of you throwing your 2 cents in on everything like you're some critically acclaimed expert with a doctorate on everquest situations that you have no fucking about.

fact: Grey/rally/emuemu is a known ip-xempt exploiter

it never is an accident with this guy. there is plenty of evidence in chat logs to show we are in the process of fighting and chasing him throughout guk and the swamp and when we finally catch he /q's out. it wasn't like it was some bard mezzing him to grief him you stupid fuck. take your bias else where,

Lazortag
03-04-2012, 08:28 PM
no i just get sick of you throwing your 2 cents in on everything like you're some critically acclaimed expert with a doctorate on everquest situations that you have no fucking about.

fact: Grey/rally/emuemu is a known ip-xempt exploiter

it never is an accident with this guy. there is plenty of evidence in chat logs to show we are in the process of fighting and chasing him throughout guk and the swamp and when we finally catch he /q's out. it wasn't like it was some bard mezzing him to grief him you stupid fuck. take your bias else where,

That's not what your screenshot shows. Your screenshot doesn't show any IP exemption abuse; it shows a player /q'ing and you killing them before they leave the game. Sirken and Amelinda have told you morons several times that you need evidence before they can punish someone. If you think the screenshots you posted are enough proof to ban someone then I seriously hope you never GM on any server.

Also I have no bias at all. If someone in Nihilum exploits I'll report it just as I would report someone in Holo.

fiegi
03-04-2012, 08:33 PM
Fallens medical condition allows him to get out of game immediately

Bkab
03-04-2012, 08:35 PM
which is why i asked sirken if an ss was enough evidence for proof mr. prestigious ivy leaguer

Lazortag
03-04-2012, 08:37 PM
which is why i asked sirken if an ss was enough evidence for proof mr. prestigious ivy leaguer

A screenshot is enough evidence if it actually shows the behaviour you're accusing Grey of. The screenshot did not show that, therefore it wasn't good enough evidence. Is this really hard to understand?

Crazycloud
03-04-2012, 08:44 PM
As you have been told like 900x in the past (or at the very least ppl in your guild have been told repeatedly - NO. that's not something easily searchable - in fact I don't know that it's even something we log. I'm sure if it's useful that rogean logs it but I don't have direct access to it. I have to submit my query to nilbog who runs queries for me.



If it's not easily searchable then fix it? Even Voidd had this shit fixed on vztz.

heartbrand
03-04-2012, 08:49 PM
I've /reported natural admitting and flaunting he trained me for exp deaths but yet he's on the next day no problem, no CSR rez, all good. I've /reported stuff like that minimum seven times, but I always see him on 24/7 farming guk, so is it really that crazy for me to assume therefore that he wasn't punished? For comparison, xantille insta suspended for train.

heartbrand
03-04-2012, 08:55 PM
I want to stress something, I believe the server should be basically anything goes outside of hacks/exploits, however, if my guildies are gonna get suspended for training you better believe I'm going to report nihilum for doing it. Guess this confession wasn't enough evidence

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9899/oopstrain.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/99/oopstrain.jpg/)

Crazycloud
03-04-2012, 08:55 PM
as for people doing stuff with me in the zone - if i'm not lookin at em - dude how can i punish them??? that would be like someone saying "Crazycloud trained me" and providing me no evidence but because i was in the zone choosing to suspend you. Any time i've suspended anyone I had evidence.



Wrong, Just admit you're slow at finding what's wrong in a pvp battle. We have warned you shit ton of times who is going to /q out the world then next thing you know it happens in solb 3-4 times in 15 mins in your face.

Amendina like wut? huh? eh? who? where? here?

William Henry Harrison
03-04-2012, 08:56 PM
he apologized so it's cool

Crazycloud
03-04-2012, 08:57 PM
he apologized so it's cool


rofl

fiegi
03-04-2012, 09:07 PM
he apologized so it's cool

i lol'd

Lazortag
03-04-2012, 09:28 PM
I don't think /report works on this server (or at least I don't think the guides read it). If someone admitted something like that then screenshot it and post it in the petitions forum. Posting it in RnF doesn't constitute a formal petition.

Sirken
03-04-2012, 09:32 PM
I don't think /report works on this server (or at least I don't think the guides read it). If someone admitted something like that then screenshot it and post it in the petitions forum. Posting it in RnF doesn't constitute a formal petition.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
all of it

heartbrand
03-04-2012, 10:28 PM
Did petition. Have been trained by natural over thirty five times. Petitioned and petitioned have never even been contacted by a gm even when amelinda on and was having my king group trained for over two hours. Prolly some pathing exploiters in black burrow to deal with.

gaard the tard
03-04-2012, 10:39 PM
Sirken rated #1 pvp gm no doubt i admit. Just reminding him that one sided bans need to be balanced out over time, as in soonish. All this rampant rumored hacking, exploiting, ip exemption corruption, mq2ing, train enabling bluebie-infused favored rule making stuff needs to be addressed and fast.

The competition will not keep logging on to an unfair advantage even if the GMs still believe it is only percieved.

Jadian
03-04-2012, 11:20 PM
God damn for people who claim to be hardore pvpers you sure are some whiny little brats.

taakyn
03-04-2012, 11:22 PM
God damn for people who claim to be hardore pvpers you sure are some whiny little brats.

This....

heartbrand
03-04-2012, 11:32 PM
It's like the NBA bro, I don't want to have to flop to get calls but if every1 else is flopping all over the place I'm gonna have to do some floppin myself.

Envious
03-05-2012, 12:04 AM
It's like the NBA bro, I don't want to have to flop to get calls but if every1 else is flopping all over the place I'm gonna have to do some floppin myself.

Grats on being the type of faggot that plays soccer...

Slathar = Citychamp?

heartbrand
03-05-2012, 12:09 AM
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