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Crenshinabon
02-28-2012, 07:49 PM
Have not been on since release. Is Shaman still very viable in pvp? Heard dots and spells got lowered a bit.

steaks6
02-28-2012, 08:14 PM
shaman is awesome if you want to be completely boring , may as well make a druid

its not like youll ever pvp if you started today youd be 50 in 2 months and if you havent done that already you wont

why bother

Slug
02-28-2012, 08:45 PM
shaman is awesome if you want to be completely boring , may as well make a druid

its not like youll ever pvp if you started today youd be 50 in 2 months and if you havent done that already you wont

why bother

This is what a man looks like, when he has been broken and realizes he is terrible at a 12 year old game.

Silikten
02-28-2012, 08:48 PM
Yeah, you seem very depressed Steaks. You should seek help.

SHMs are beast pvp class and pve. You should definitely roll one!

Tanx
02-28-2012, 08:48 PM
Lol apparently Shamans are very abundant on this server.

And Steaks is a tool.

Zalaerian
02-28-2012, 09:10 PM
Shamans are weak. Damage is easily cured and every runs around with cure pots.

LaMort
02-28-2012, 09:15 PM
shaman in kunark = god !

Greenkrak
02-28-2012, 09:22 PM
Shamans are weak. Damage is easily cured and every runs around with cure pots.

if ur a G u can get disease and poison counters way up there - esp now with being able to stack dots

and yea in kunark shamans get even nastier yo - unresistable debuffs n bigtime diseases

Zalaerian
02-28-2012, 09:45 PM
Plague is a joke. Love it when Nihilum shamans plague me. Means i dont need to bust another crim pot.

Nolanite
02-28-2012, 11:50 PM
Steaks = Ogre Size Tool Bag

NotFilthed
02-29-2012, 12:59 AM
yes shaman is very viable they may not be the OP druid class but still pretty leet imo

Ragemaster9999
02-29-2012, 07:36 PM
My shaman is level 13 and the more I play the more I think this class is utter garbage. Okay aside from SOW it seems shaman is just a hybrid meeler caster that is not particularly good at anything.

They get a whole bunch of buffs, that dont seem to matter much for PVE, so leveling is a bitch. Cant kill a blue mob without expending half my mana bar / hp bar. Havnt had much experience with them in PVP, as currently there is nobody around my level, so im mostly just forced to solo PVE most of the time. I have some low level DD spell, and low level poison DOT spell, which does jack all for DPS... and idk it just gets worse and worse every spell bracket.

I was told shamans get better later on, maybe the dog pet helps idk, but so far Im really disliking shaman and regret rolling one. What level does the shaman get better, if at all, and what spells does it get later that make a real difference?

pasi
02-29-2012, 07:54 PM
I wouldn't really melee buff for PvE.

14 you get nuke and root which levels the power between you and other casters.

19 is fairly weak outside of Healing and Affliction. You probably won't use Affliction much if you're root nuking at this level.

24 is a huge power jump again. Regen and Canni (Canni between med ticks). New poison dot so use Affliction and Envenomed Breath in combination with root. New nuke as well to finish mobs after DoTs take em low.

29 - No noticeable soloing power gains. New heal and slow for grouping, but you shouldn't be getting hit while soloing.

34 - another huge power jump. Easy mode from here out. 39 and 49 will also be big jumps.

gloinz
02-29-2012, 08:09 PM
#1 class pvp outside of anything pvp champ plays

Nirgon
02-29-2012, 08:13 PM
When's the champ going to man up? There's a few people leveling now and you could catch a wave.

jeffd
02-29-2012, 08:43 PM
When's the champ going to man up? There's a few people leveling now and you could catch a wave.

if you want to jump back into leveling, now's definitely the time to do it. i've had full groups with different people every day i've logged on from level 5-25

big things y'all

steaks6
03-01-2012, 12:04 AM
with a cure pot a shaman just becomes a weak cold nuke bot with basic heals

yea they get a tad better with bane of knife , but let me tell you

melee supercharge in kunark , expect to get eaten fast

jeffd
03-01-2012, 12:34 AM
a list of people who don't play on this server but post here anyway because they're obsessed irl

1. harrison
2. steaks

Ragemaster9999
03-01-2012, 01:57 AM
with a cure pot a shaman just becomes a weak cold nuke bot with basic heals

yea they get a tad better with bane of knife , but let me tell you

melee supercharge in kunark , expect to get eaten fast

What makes melee supercharged in kunark? Which ones? SK WAR / ROGUE / ranger? Be specific. I honestly dont know, so please enlighten me. As it stands right now, Melee is crap, is it new gear or new spells that 'fix' melee in the current state of the game. Also, does this melee only get good at 50+, or do changes made in kunark boost melee retroactively 1-50 as well?

Also keep in mind Kunark is a long ways off, it may even never come out, we dont know when the fabled kunark will come out. I personally cant see myself playing a melee centric toon that is really painful now in the hopes it will get better later. Iv always been a fan of SK, and other meele hybrids in ALL mmos.... but on this box they are just too weak.

pasi
03-01-2012, 02:51 AM
Better gear, both resist gear and stats gear. Spells do not improve all that much (especially in terms of resists sans Lures). The major improvement spell wise is the fast casting nukes. Melee 1-50 are retroactively buffed via widespread better weapons.

Other stuff:
Rogue - double backstab 55+. Cakewalk Epic. Duelist.
Monk - Access to big-dick damage 2handers. Cakewalk Epic. Innerflame.


Warriors, SKs, and Paladins don't gain the same increase as Monks and Rogues, but they were pretty powerful in classic. Disciplines, new spells, and better gear keep them at a relatively stable powerlevel level as classic (that is to say, high tier) while casters plummet and rogues/monks shoot up.

Rangers pretty much need a Windstriker to be considered powerful. Trueshot isn't until Velious and the OP Archery shit is Luclin. Not to say you can't do well on one, but you'd probably be better as a different class is all.