global chat ?

[omachron9]

prolly gonna be called out for not reading something but is there a serverwide chat channel on 1999 ?

[Flunklesnarkin]

There is no global chat on P99.


I don't think there are any plans to ever add it either.


I'm not sure on that last part though.. my vote is for no global chat either way.

[sbvera13]

From what I read, it used to be here because it's built into the emu, but they took it out because it's not classic. If you havn't noticed yet, the devs are a little OCD about mimicking everything classic, so it'll never happen.

[LizardNecro]

I don't want a channel full of lol umad bro? and other trolling.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I don't want a channel full of lol umad bro? and other trolling.

[Holey]

I don't want a channel full of lol umad bro? and other trolling.

it makes time go by faster and laughing thats why i want it back

[Lazortag]

It's not really needed. Most zones have a lot of people in them already, and you can always go on the forums/mumble/IRC if you want to communicate with others. There's some debate as to whether Red99 needs global ooc as a part of its stimulus package though.

[Aviann]

When were chat channels implemented? I miss those... I'd detest a general serverwide ooc channel though, that's a retarded idea.

[Daldaen]

Either Luclin or PoP I forget.

One of the better additions to the game. But ZOMGZ cats on the moon = the devil so clearly channels are the devil by proxy.

[stormlord]

Chat channels were added during Velious.

So "global chat" will arrive when Velious gets here.

We're still about half population of what live was, though. I don't know what the pre-requisite population was for a stable gameplay. Probably somewhere around 1000? Of course, most players have a lot more knowledge than they had back then. So maybe that makes up for any slight population shortage.

[Galaa]

From what I read, it used to be here because it's built into the emu, but they took it out because it's not classic. If you havn't noticed yet, the devs are a little OCD about mimicking everything classic, so it'll never happen.

IMO the "its not in P99 because its not classic" excuse is way overused.

There are many things in P99 that isnt classic as well...so if those can exist, why cant this?

A global chat doesnt even affect the game as much as a gameplay function. Global chats has always been optional to join, if you dont wish to have your chat box spammed, you can just leave the global chat channels.

[sbvera13]

Even so, I don't really want a game wide channel. It changes the feel of the game immensely. Howver to be fair there are many non classic things I would like to see. Soulbinders, item stacks bigger then 20 (arrows especially), experience penalties removed, etc. Theres no reason that because we want the classic experience, we can't make it a better game and keep the core. But the devs don't share that attitude at all.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Theres no reason that because we want the classic experience, we can't make it a better game and keep the core. But the devs don't share that attitude at all.

Rogean makes peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. There are a lot of people who come here because we want to eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

If what you really want is a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, hold the jelly, add bananas, honey, cinnamon, deep-friend.... then may I direct you to the eqemu source code on http://www.eqemulator.org/

From there, you can get all the information you need to start your own server with whatever rules and options you want.

Rogean makes what Rogean makes, take it or leave it.

[Flunklesnarkin]

There are a lot of emu eq servers out there. Some of them have large populations too..

I think P99 has the largest from what i've seen.


but if you are dead set on global chat can try another.

[Fultun]

Even so, I don't really want a game wide channel. It changes the feel of the game immensely. Howver to be fair there are many non classic things I would like to see. Soulbinders, item stacks bigger then 20 (arrows especially), experience penalties removed, etc. Theres no reason that because we want the classic experience, we can't make it a better game and keep the core. But the devs don't share that attitude at all.


xp penalties is what seperate EQ from the watered down games out there.

It makes you consider your attack methods. Without it, you can just run in and try anything to see if you can do it or not with no consequences.

[Barkingturtle]

AND YOU LOVE IT

[Jinkeybhoy]

There was global chat when the server first started but was done away with once the population got to a reasonable level. It got pretty out of hand at times without someone constantly watching it.

I doubt global chat will be implemented until it was added on live.

[RevengeofGio]

xp penalties is what seperate EQ from the watered down games out there.

It makes you consider your attack methods. Without it, you can just run in and try anything to see if you can do it or not with no consequences.

I think he's talking about the xp penalties on certain classes & races.

The reasoning behind the penalties were kind of stupid and definitely didn't make the game better. Frankly speaking without AA's you have a game where 3 classes are barely used (which lets be honest wasn't classic... back in the day there were tons of hybrid melee). Frankly we need to add some limited AA's or directly modify certain classes so they can be competitive. Otherwise you end up in a situation that you're keeping all the faults that SOE eventually fixed under a banner of nostalgia.

Also no maps is kinda stupid too (oh but it makes it classic)... not really because all everyone did was alt tab to look at a map... so alt tab versus hitting M.

You can add quality of life changes and still be considered classic. I know I'm a radical here and all lol.

[teekanc]

Global Chat please. I need a channel to lol umadbro in.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I kind of like no map.. usually end up being too tempted to stare at it all the time.


You learn the way to where you're going after a time or two anyways and don't need the map.


I do like custom channels though. I don't see how those would affect anybodies gameplay except for the people who set up and use the channels.

[Nerrp]

For what it's worth, I am in favor of the pure classic EQ with no alterations. Sure I would change a few individual things, namely adding custom chat channels... but once you start adding one thing here one thing there, it's a slippery slope that ends up making this "EverQuest" like every other game out there... watered down and easy. --> Which is exactly the reason we're here instead of out there playing WoW, SWTOR, or whateverelse game out there.

We like EQ because it was difficult - it didn't give you a map, made you lose an hour's work when you die, you have to find your corpse, which can rot, and it takes forever to level... brilliant.

[Flunklesnarkin]

yep i like custom chat channels... I can live without them though.


Most people use vent these days for raids anyways.


Its just nice to have vent + channel for healers or channel for alpha tank group or w/e.

So people don't get caught up on wrong information in guild chat because not everybody can talk on vent at once.


Usually need more information than what one person is saying at a time on harder fights.

[Fultun]

I think he's talking about the xp penalties on certain classes & races.
.


Ahh good point, my mistake.

[Visual]

globat chat was a fun time except for ilililllililll and finawin

[mwatt]

IMO the "its not in P99 because its not classic" excuse is way overused.

There are many things in P99 that isnt classic as well...so if those can exist, why cant this?

A global chat doesnt even affect the game as much as a gameplay function. Global chats has always been optional to join, if you dont wish to have your chat box spammed, you can just leave the global chat channels.

Using logic like that one might say something like: "Since there are many murders committed in the world every year - why not kill a few more people?"

Risky analogies aside, The intent is to provide as close to the classic experience as possible. Some things are not possible. Some others are possible but simply have not been done yet due to lack of manpower/time. Finally, there are a tiny number of things - less than the count of fingers of one hand - that the devs have decided to do a little differently to resolve difficult issues that were not issues at the time classic was originally underway.

Once we start saying it isn't exactly classic now, so why not deviate, we will loose sight of the target and produce something different. You might want that, but that is not the idea here.

[mwatt]

Rogean makes peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. There are a lot of people who come here because we want to eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

If what you really want is a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, hold the jelly, add bananas, honey, cinnamon, deep-friend.... then may I direct you to the eqemu source code on http://www.eqemulator.org/

From there, you can get all the information you need to start your own server with whatever rules and options you want.

Rogean makes what Rogean makes, take it or leave it.

Rogean is undoubtedly ultra important to the server, but you really can't call this Rogean's solo creation. People like Nilborg(!) and Kanras can't possibly be left out of the equation. There is also a whole list of past contributors that helped create what we have today.

I agree completely with the tenor of your post though.

[Hitchens]

Would global chat break the game? Probably not.
Would global chat give staff yet another thing to babysit? Probably so.

[Nedala]

EC tunnel > global chat channels (you cant have both)

[Malrubius]

As others have pointed out, this is an old idea - we already tried global OOC on this server for many, many months.

It sucked. Everyone was bitching about it. Drama queens telling their life story. During peak hours, text scrolled by too fast to be read. Constantly trying to /ignore Iillllilillliiililliiili.

The server improved hugely when they got rid of it. It gave us, among other things: useful and informative local communication; nerfed spammers; and EC tunnel as the gods intended it. :D

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Rogean is undoubtedly ultra important to the server, but you really can't call this Rogean's solo creation. People like Nilborg(!) and Kanras can't possibly be left out of the equation. There is also a whole list of past contributors that helped create what we have today.

I agree completely with the tenor of your post though.Certainly not intended to exclude the other devs... mad love to Nilbog, Kanras, and everyone else that has contributed here as a dev. There are an immense number of man hours in this server, and I'm grateful for every one of them. The rhetorical device just worked better talking about one guy.