Training by another name

[Palemoon]

So last night we got to witness Lethdar and a few other Holocaust bind within Fear and then bindrush Cazic Thule or Draco over and over again whenever someone else was in the zone, causeing Fear's deathtouch script to start, forceing everyone else in the zone to camp, gate, or die.

Lethdar alone must of triggered the script over 20 times at least.

What I want to know is, is this going to be allowed or not? Amelinda was online and even spoke to people via guildchats, she was aware of what was going on but even while she was speaking, Lethdar bind rushed CT a few more times causeing more chains of DeathTouches.

Is this what the server has devolved into? Is this how we are going to attract more people after begging for "an xp bonus to save the server"??

I dont care which side does it, it has to stop or welcome to a new population high of 40 on a good night.

p.s. Amelinda, why did you not stop Lethdar from triggering the deathtouch script the oh.. half dozen times alone he did it while you were broadcasting? I was shocked to see him still online and still bind rushing draco/CT while you were there.

[heartbrand]

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[Gongshow]

...because this isn't the shallow end of the pool. Head on over to Blue if you'd prefer that gaming experience.

Amelinda nor any GM is a babysitter, and nor should they be. Learn to handle your shit. Troriste and Skelly and Grey and whoever else tried to do this to us 6+ times last night and we stopped them 5 out of 6 times. (Where do you think we got the strat? Sound familiar?) Prepare, adjust strategies, adapt. This type of shit is all part of the classic PVP experience. Adapt or perish. Natural selection. Enjoy Blue.

Sounds like you had a good night though.

ALLAH AKBAR!!!

[Palemoon]

Bindrushing CT to trigger the DT script has nothing to do with pvp, at all.

[Gongshow]

I agree to an extent. But it was a tactic first used on us by Nihilum, one in which we put a stop to many times after we realized what was happening, and then one that we flipped back around on them. It's simple really, Holocaust plays this game to watch you squirm. Anything you think you can do to get an upper hand or edge, we can do 10x better, and harder. This is a prime example. A taste of your own medicine, Holocaust style.

Your only option is to recruit more people so your raids have 50+, however from the looks of it, you guys are on the decline. Used to be 45+, then 40+, then 35+, now down to about 30. People inside your guild feed information like it's candy, rumor is most of the sheep are unhappy. Direct quotes are out, multiple vent recordings are circulating, and boy do the nerds sound angry and scared. Kick back and watch Nihilum slowly circle the drain, and whine their sack off all the way down.

[Gongshow]

And for the record, the Emperor and Alpha Monk of Red99 had predicted this. Should've listened to the prophet.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62336

[Dotchya]

Direct quotes are out, multiple vent recordings are circulating, and boy do the nerds sound angry and scared. Kick back and watch Nihilum slowly circle the drain, and whine their sack off all the way down.

:D

[Palemoon]

PS: Be VERY careful what you wish for with this Cazic rule. I ran a plan by Amelinda we hatched that would make you collectively shit your drawers. No one would be able to raid fear.

[Gongshow]

When Planes are released, this issue will only cause more problems.

When Planes are released, this issue will only cause more problems.

problems.

Planes.

[Palemoon]

blah, can't edit,

anyways Nirgon wrote:

PS: Be VERY careful what you wish for with this Cazic rule. I ran a plan by Amelinda we hatched that would make you collectively shit your drawers. No one would be able to raid fear.

Then later in the thread Amelinda wrote:

i'm not in bed with anyone. If someone runs an idea by me they are asking if it's valid.

Take your tin foil off.

So does this answer my question? binding near and bind rushing CT/Draco with multiple people a "valid tactic" to make sure "no one raids plane of fear again"? She was there while it was going on, so I assume yes?

And yes I understand holo is about the grief, I get that. I dont mind a fight, I came to this server for red, but I have zero interest in reliving the bad old days of SZ's train wars. Been there done that, Shadowbane was better and SZ died.

[Darwoth]

i have been quite curious since launch who this agape mouth is in game, finding out now that he is in nihilum is...... well......

not surprising.

[heartbrand]

palemoon is arzak

[Darwoth]

thanks =P

[biscuits2455]

Thats how fear pvp works. Stop crying about it. I mean WTF did you expect to happen in fear?

[SamwiseRed]

...because this isn't the shallow end of the pool. Head on over to Blue if you'd prefer that gaming experience.

Amelinda nor any GM is a babysitter, and nor should they be. Learn to handle your shit. Troriste and Skelly and Grey and whoever else tried to do this to us 6+ times last night and we stopped them 5 out of 6 times. (Where do you think we got the strat? Sound familiar?) Prepare, adjust strategies, adapt. This type of shit is all part of the classic PVP experience. Adapt or perish. Natural selection. Enjoy Blue.

Sounds like you had a good night though.

ALLAH AKBAR!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGXa9DDiDGc

Gongshow knockin California da fuck out

[Albane]

Thats how fear pvp works. Stop crying about it. I mean WTF did you expect to happen in fear?

You morons need to learn what PvP is. This server is so full of trashy players who never played on a respectable true PvP server. This type of stuff would have meant an instant suspension on classic VZ.

As for trying to lie to the community and say that Nihilum did this first. Nihilum was in PoF and cleared everything except CT and Draco while constantly being forced to camp by the 2-3 Holocaust who were trying this. We actually had to spend the last 2 hours clearing, sitting at the portal, just to try and kill these guys the second they zoned in.

[Nizzarr]

I agree to an extent. But it was a tactic first used on us by Nihilum, one in which we put a stop to many times after we realized what was happening, and then one that we flipped back around on them. It's simple really, Holocaust plays this game to watch you squirm. Anything you think you can do to get an upper hand or edge, we can do 10x better, and harder. This is a prime example. A taste of your own medicine, Holocaust style.

Your only option is to recruit more people so your raids have 50+, however from the looks of it, you guys are on the decline. Used to be 45+, then 40+, then 35+, now down to about 30. People inside your guild feed information like it's candy, rumor is most of the sheep are unhappy. Direct quotes are out, multiple vent recordings are circulating, and boy do the nerds sound angry and scared. Kick back and watch Nihilum slowly circle the drain, and whine their sack off all the way down.

Thats pretty funny coming from a deadbeat guild member and known trainer.

Whats the countdown until you get suspended gongshow? keep making those zone in trains brother, their helping your case.

Rumors has it that holocaust members aint getting shit cuz they aint killing shit. but they dont care about loot, they just spend 16 people's 8 hours in fear killing like 25 mobs.


So whats the word on this? Can you aggro CT and get the chain started only when you have a raidforce present in the zone? I thought that was the case.

Please make a rule and enforce it. Please dont make vague posts about it with a thousand grey area.

[Gongshow]

Nihilum did this first on Monday night, you mongoloid. Troriste x4, Skelly x1, Grey x1. The only one that hit us was Troristes first one I believe. After that we just smoked any idiot that zoned in. If you guys weren't tunnel vision knob hawks, you could've easily prevented last night. Unfortunately you have a long way to go as far as PVP strategy goes.

And another hole in your story from last night is that you guys zoned into a 80% cleared PoFear since we were there for hours prior. Meaning your idea of a full clear is half the temple and some random fetids and other garbage we left behind. We then took our 10 online players and effectively disabled your guild for the remainder of the night as you rolled with a raid force of over 30.

Ouch. Cheers to wasting 4 hours of 30 peoples time for absolutely nothing but humiliation and frustration. I'd be bitter too.

[Mafakka]

So last night we got to witness Lethdar and a few other Holocaust bind within Fear and then bindrush Cazic Thule or Draco over and over again whenever someone else was in the zone, causeing Fear's deathtouch script to start, forceing forceing forceing forceing forceing forceing forceingeveryone else in the zone to camp, gate, or die.

[heartbrand]

They need to get Fallen that lustrous russett bro, I also hear Mellowyellow looking for more robes. Keep the hope alive sheep you might get some scraps.

[Nizzarr]

Nihilum did this first on Monday night, you mongoloid. Troriste x4, Skelly x1, Grey x1. The only one that hit us was Troristes first one I believe. After that we just smoked any idiot that zoned in. If you guys weren't tunnel vision knob hawks, you could've easily prevented last night. Unfortunately you have a long way to go as far as PVP strategy goes.

And another hole in your story from last night is that you guys zoned into a 80% cleared PoFear since we were there for hours prior. Meaning your idea of a full clear is half the temple and some random fetids and other garbage we left behind. We then took our 10 online players and effectively disabled your guild for the remainder of the night as you rolled with a raid force of over 30.

Ouch. Cheers to wasting 4 hours of 30 peoples time for absolutely nothing but humiliation and frustration. I'd be bitter too.

more like 40% cleared fear, you guys keep at it though, you're doing good!

maybe one day youll be able to take a shot at a raid mob, like next year.

Until then, please keep training and sending noobs at us. Hope you dont realize all the time you guys are wasting though, that would be an horrible wake-up call.

[Lazortag]

I don't think there should necessarily be a rule against it, but anyone who thinks this is a legitimate strategy is clearly an asshole. Why don't the guilds start a gentlemen's agreement not to purposely start the script out of grief? That way the GM's don't need to be involved and everyone is happy. This can only end badly for everyone involved if you guys continue to employ this strategy.

I hate to say it but I'm 99% confident that Nihilum will be more open to such an agreement than Holocaust. Is it because I'm psychic, or does Holo have a sore-loser problem?

[Nizzarr]

They need to get Fallen that lustrous russett bro, I also hear Mellowyellow looking for more robes. Keep the hope alive sheep you might get some scraps.

Scraps are better than nothing. how's your nothing going on for you?

Arzak is a perfect example, runed bolster belt, bladestopper and almost a full set of valorium! damn, sucks to be a sheep!

[Zalaerian]

Last night brought back fond memories of 1.0 VZTZ w Heresy vs. TZT. Brought a tear to my eye.

You morons need to learn what PvP is. This server is so full of trashy players who never played on a respectable true PvP server. This type of stuff would have meant an instant suspension on classic VZ.


Rez-box trained raids non stop on live. The fact I cant do it here is ruining my classic immersion.

[Gongshow]

Troriste you should worry more about the disease festering internally in Nihilum than the shit we do to beat you guys in PVP constantly and/or ruin your night with 1:3 numbers.

I'd be surprised if Nihilum even existed in a year. Your own guild members said that it is a collection of random newbies with no leadership or direction. That is paraphrased of course, but from multiple members no less.

At least Fear has a wheelchair ramp outside though, or you'd be screwed. Did you get any Vermiculated Legs yet? Oh yeah, you don't have any.

[oldfish]

Whining by another name?

I miss the old Rallos crowd, where this is the kind of stuff that was expected to happen and you had to deal with it.

Oasis isnt the same without regular spectres train.

[Nirgon]

...because this isn't the shallow end of the pool. Head on over to Blue if you'd prefer that gaming experience.

Amelinda nor any GM is a babysitter, and nor should they be. Learn to handle your shit. Troriste and Skelly and Grey and whoever else tried to do this to us 6+ times last night and we stopped them 5 out of 6 times. (Where do you think we got the strat? Sound familiar?) Prepare, adjust strategies, adapt. This type of shit is all part of the classic PVP experience. Adapt or perish. Natural selection. Enjoy Blue.

Sounds like you had a good night though.

ALLAH AKBAR!!!

AH LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

[Lazortag]

Scraps are better than nothing. how's your nothing going on for you?

Arzak is a perfect example, runed bolster belt, bladestopper and almost a full set of valorium! damn, sucks to be a sheep!

Shouldn't lustrous russet be dropping and not the class-specific armor?

[Albane]

I'd be surprised if Nihilum even existed in a year. Your own guild members said that it is a collection of random newbies with no leadership or direction. That is paraphrased of course, but from multiple members no less.


As a "sheep" in Nihilum, I know for a fact that everything you state here is bullshit. Our leadership is doing an amazing job and it is their coordination that has helped the guild to clear Fear 3x in 2 days and kill every dragon spawn but 1 within minutes of it popping.

It is quite impressive though, the way Holocaust is able to control the forums with their forum pvp. Maybe in a few more forum levels you will be ready for the forum raids for your forum pixels.

[lethdar]

Sounds like someone is mad I stopped in to play this box for a night.

[Nirgon]

Thats pretty funny coming from a deadbeat guild member and known trainer.

Whats the countdown until you get suspended gongshow? keep making those zone in trains brother, their helping your case.

Rumors has it that holocaust members aint getting shit cuz they aint killing shit. but they dont care about loot, they just spend 16 people's 8 hours in fear killing like 25 mobs.


So whats the word on this? Can you aggro CT and get the chain started only when you have a raidforce present in the zone? I thought that was the case.

Please make a rule and enforce it. Please dont make vague posts about it with a thousand grey area.


Translation:

A very giggly Troriste thumb-guides his power chair up the fear ramp.

"I got this guys, the GMs say its a valid tactic. I'm so clever"

-- Entering Plane of Fear --

"Lol these guys have no fucking clue how we get down. Time to show them how to play some EverQu....."

A scareling backstabs you for 180 points of damage!
A scareling hits you for 140 points of damage!
A samhain hits you for 132 points of damage!
A samhain hits you for 87 points of damage!
A tentacle tormenter tries to hit you but misses!
A tentacle tormentor hits you for 110 points of damage!
....... etc

http://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000003640958-0piekh-crop.jpg?7da5a8a



/t Gongshow "This server is shit because of you guys!"


I mean really, you're going to pull some shit like that on THIS group? Really?

Sit your ass down.

Plane of fear PvP is what guys like Gongshow do son. Have fun fighting the great white shark in water. The "game" you guys bring is dragons stuck in ceilings, single pulling mobs through zones by invising the caster and gating, recharging items and.... GETTING CAUGHT. If you weren't so fucking stupid and overt you would get away with so much more.

As far as the screaming and complaining, give me a break. You wish you'd thought of binding a char there first, because you would have done it and would have been defending it here. Period. As far as all this shit is concerned I wish *none* of it was happening. No aggroing CT, no training, no broken dragon shit (you know you're fucking wrong now), no RMTing, no blue server plat trades etc. But, when you do it and get away with it? Nothing makes me happier than to see you wiped out in PvP and a dragon exploited exactly how you did it. Or having a char constantly aggro CT while we play fucking Jihad music in vent. Well, nothing except the hypocritical "crying" to GMs. Sirken must have loaded a petition queue that crashed his computer.

What you're doing is the same reason its so easy to charm mobs in fear, or dragons can get out of their lairs. If it wasn't a fix that made things easier? You guys wouldn't report it on blue. Case and point, as long as it works for you its not a problem. There's nothing wrong as long as you have your pixels. Well, now I guess, things have gotten just a little bit harder.

Enjoy your 2am-4am+ fear clears, nerds!

http://i42.tinypic.com/28a2a37.jpg

[Nirgon]

As far as Amelinda goes? She has a personality, shocker. Her life doesn't revolve around "lewts" or selling a bone clasped girdle on blue to put the hot pockets on the table.

Really disgusting you'd resort to that.

Even worse, you'd never apologize to her because you guys are so shoved down deep in a pit of denial.

Amelinda and I weren't always "pals" and I'm still bitter about exploited loot being used to farm things. I've learned to deal with it, it fucking blows, and I don't take it out on the staff.

[lethdar]

As a "sheep" in Nihilum, I know for a fact that everything you state here is bullshit. Our leadership is doing an amazing job and it is their willingness to recruit any droolcup retard to reach 45 players online for any given raid encounter that has helped the guild to clear Fear 3x in 2 days and kill every dragon spawn but 1 within minutes of it popping.

It is quite impressive though, the way Holocaust is able to control the forums with their forum pvp. Maybe in a few more forum levels you will be ready for the forum raids for your forum pixels.

fixed for you bru.

[Zalaerian]

A+ post Comrade Nirgon

[lethdar]

CT script isn't considered a train.

HMMMM

[Zalaerian]

Hmmm indeeed

[Nirgon]

HMMMM

Can we just get two people, one from each guild to talk to Amelinda and Sirken and come to an agreement? I posted in server chat regarding hours of enforcement etc.

Tonight was an early indication of what's going to continue.

Will I stick around? Yes.

Will 99% of Holo stick around? Yes.

Do the staff and most other players have time for this shit? NO!

[Nirgon]

CT script isn't considered a train. Ask the blue server. Having a monk (gongshow) train around and flop on portal when people zone in is considered a train. Not like amelinda does anything about trains though.

Cazic Thule shouts, "Nerfed! You fuckin dumb!"

[Nirgon]

They players on blue are also really disgusted by what you guys try to do as far as labeling things as "grey areas".

I knew immediately to inform my guild to log out when Cazic shouted "Troriste" the first time. How do you think I knew that? "Just ask the blue server".

I'll be sure to ask them about things involving Plane of Hate and shit in Kunark. I'm sure there's a "grey area" down the road about you guys exploiting pathing in Howling Stones (yeah I know bout dat).

[Lulz Sect]

http://www.wiinoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/servbot-crying-e1311106058106.png

[Nirgon]

^ exactly.

Lulz the first night you should have seen my tells from Emumu - "you mad, you def mad" etc, "its a valid tactic on blue".

Now? When we turn up the thermostat? Heh! Basically! Heh!

[Harrison]

Exploiters resort to new exploits to stay mad at other exploiters

[Nirgon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKJsSPATDLY

[Lulz Sect]

http://de.trinixy.ru/pics4/20100323/funny_internet_gangstas_06.jpg

[Nirgon]

^

So last night we got to witness Lethdar and a few other Holocaust bind within Fear and then bindrush Cazic Thule or Draco over and over again whenever someone else was in the zone, causeing Fear's deathtouch script to start, forceing everyone else in the zone to camp, gate, or die.

Lethdar alone must of triggered the script over 20 times at least.

What I want to know is, is this going to be allowed or not? Amelinda was online and even spoke to people via guildchats, she was aware of what was going on but even while she was speaking, Lethdar bind rushed CT a few more times causeing more chains of DeathTouches.

Is this what the server has devolved into? Is this how we are going to attract more people after begging for "an xp bonus to save the server"??

I dont care which side does it, it has to stop or welcome to a new population high of 40 on a good night.

p.s. Amelinda, why did you not stop Lethdar from triggering the deathtouch script the oh.. half dozen times alone he did it while you were broadcasting? I was shocked to see him still online and still bind rushing draco/CT while you were there.


You better run a check.

[Vile]

fuck man, i was so gonna PS a wheel chair ramp for fear... damn you nirgon

[Nirgon]

You still can dude

[Snufz]

Funny when certain guilds start shit then cry when its used against them.

[Lulz Sect]

http://www.wiinoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/servbot-crying-e1311106058106.pnghttp://www.wiinoob.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/servbot-crying-e1311106058106.png

[Pitborn]

I watched Troriste do the exact same thing. ( Zerg into CT to Trigger DT cycle on Holo while we sat on their corpses )

Nihilium white knights, wru ?

[Nirgon]

Supreme on notice with this thread.

Don't post in it bro, don't do it to yourself!

[Salty]

OP is a confirmed faggot.

CT Deathtouch script should be working regardless of someone aggroing CT.

He has always randomly DTd people in zone.

[XiakenjaTZ]

I find this funny because we only leaned it was allowed after Nihilum did it to us.

Omega

[Salty]

CT Deathtouch script should be working regardless of someone aggroing CT.


If CT isn't deathtouching people and his script isn't active, than you are cheating.

Therefore someone must agro CT in order to get the script goin.

[Billbike]

OP is a confirmed faggot.

Best post today.

[Slathar]

ill bind at CT spawn point to grief nihilum raids. ill just afk and laugh and laugh. ill gladly de-level to 1 to prevent them from being able to raid.

:):):):):):)

have and gl bros

[Nirgon]

If CT isn't deathtouching people and his script isn't active, than you are cheating.

Therefore someone must agro CT in order to get the script goin.

Aggro a mob to intentionally xp loss another player and COMPLETELY disrupt a raid = training in my book.

Nihi shoulda been pushing for this. Last night would have probably been fun and games for them. Instead it was for us.

Maybe people will realize doing stupid fucking shit is bad for the server and their own members.

[Slathar]

ill bind at CT spawn point to grief nihilum raids. ill just afk and laugh and laugh. ill gladly de-level to 1 to prevent them from being able to raid.

:):):):):):)

have and gl bros

[IronLikeALionInZion]

guild only paladin gets valorium.
proof of what exactly? Troriste?

arzak then links me BP and tells me i should of never left nihilum.

please explain to me the ratio of, Plane of Fear loot equals less dirtnaps your sorry ass has taken? because i dont think its helping much at all.

facts is no amount of loot can silence someone like IronLion who brings truth.
i blew the whistle about the corruption, and left before what i thought was going to be
a massive ban on them. im now guildless, and solo but atleast i can say im not part of your zerg-fest ran by 3 known exploiters you call a guild.

yeah holo may have exploited one dragon, but it was only after GMs failed to enforce their enemy guild doing it SEVERAL times. they say holocaust trains, but if you've been up against nihilum greats like Natural, you will learn their clean whistle is more like a used condum. from what i have gathered it seems as holocaust has only used these measures to compete against a guild who really seems to be above the law on this server.

im not a member of holocaust, but i find them to be heroes of a falling server. a server falling to abandonment by GM's , a gigantic Zerg who uses numbers to avoid pvp, and the real money trade operated by nihilums elite.

There is offline sites as we speak selling platinum en masse for Red 99. The only guild with the means to operate such a thing is you guys nihilum.

End incoherent rant.

[Nirgon]

Yeah I think they're realizing they aren't the only players around here that will go the extra fucking light year to compete. I mean, lawl, I dunno who you're pushing around on the blue server... but we ain't them.

The only thing that will be gained from waging this war of attrition is a loss of the more casual members. Most people don't have time for 6 hours of fucking Cazic Thule Jihad.

[Slathar]

should my commanders give the order for Operation: Cazic Thule Jihad then this faithful servant of grief shall carry out their orders immediately

i am rdy

[Nirgon]

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Takin' chances while we dancin' in the party for sure
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Straight off the fuckin' streets of C-P-T
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or Coupe DeVille rollin' on dubs
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I'm on one, I might bail up in the Century Club
with my jeans on, and my team strong
Get my drink on, and my smoke on
Then go home with, something to poke on (what's up bitch?)
Loc it's on for the two-triple-oh
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[Nate Dogg]
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[Lazortag]

Since no one has responded to me I'm just going to try one more time: why is Valorium dropping instead of Lustrous Russet?

[Nirgon]

All sets drop.

We've seen no lustrous yet. But I've seen a cryo robe.

It looks like they took blue fear, then put the cryo and lustrous back on the spiders and amys.

Not sure if phobos can drop both yet, but I have a feeling no. Please feel free to correct me.

Now, what's going to cause MUCH rage, when the sets were put in... lustrous etc was removed...

Dunno what to say on it other than .... hmph. It seems to make people happy. The hell raiser / classic enthusiast in me is gonna hafta go with it shouldn't be like this.

You guys decide, Whirl got fixed today. I'm not going to be saying anything more.

[Lazortag]

Sounds like something you should bug report.

[Xantille]

And for the record, the Emperor and Alpha Monk of Red99 had predicted this. Should've listened to the prophet.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62336

This, and being able to /q out of game instantly (i.e. Fallen + Emumu) are why we can't have nice things.

[Nirgon]

^ yes this needs a fix, it's just too hard to enforce by observation alone.

[Lazortag]

This, and being able to /q out of game instantly (i.e. Fallen + Emumu) are why we can't have nice things.

/q-ing out of game instantly is lame but I'm pretty sure people have had IP exemptions removed for abusing it, so it is being policed. Savah does this too in case anyone cares. Anyways, as for binding in dungeons, I say we go with the classic solution: make casters respawn oom after a pvp death, and disable binding in the planes after a little bit. Only casters can bind in dungeons so if a caster respawns oom, they can't bind rush. The only thing they can do is train which will get them a suspension. There's no need to disable binding in dungeons entirely. Binding in the planes was removed eventually on Live (for good reason) so we can just do what was done on Live.

[Nirgon]

make casters respawn oom after a pvp death,


I made a bug post about this.

[Knuckle]

Nihilium getting owned by their own strategies, where have we seen this before.

[Dacbane]

Holocaust is good fun... they take turns training our raid in PoFear, and then they come here and complain about not understanding CT agro.

[Nirgon]

Dacbane that quote was too hard hitting

[fiegi]

Scraps are better than nothing. how's your nothing going on for you?

Arzak is a perfect example, runed bolster belt, bladestopper and almost a full set of valorium! damn, sucks to be a sheep!

and still terribad

[Knuckle]

That supreme motto is pounding strong in the head "ITS ALL ABOUT THE PIXELS"

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRpDGm_xfeAYrxXgcCM5p1V4lC__Xzaw J4bYzX--leTo9OTj6ETDA

[Flunklesnarkin]

A+ thread


would read again.

[Nirgon]

Scraps are better than nothing. how's your nothing going on for you?

Arzak is a perfect example, runed bolster belt, bladestopper and almost a full set of valorium! damn, sucks to be a sheep!

We have 3 sets of verm bracers son.

: /

Where's yours?

[Lazortag]

We have 3 sets of verm bracers son.

: /

Where's yours?

I thought Nihilum was using showeq to pick off all the armor mobs? Were they just really nice and left the mobs with verm bracers up?

[Nirgon]

We killed them on a fresh repop dude.

Our first zone in, we saw plenty of mobs like phobos and other super goodies up. None of them had loot. It was pretty obvious, we justly reported it. Anyways...

[Harrison]

You wouldn't see loot on a phobo, retard. With as many cheaters in your guild and them letting you spew your idiocy and ignorance all over the forums in their name, they sure as fuck didn't educate you.

[Lulz Sect]

http://e.images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/12520260.jpg

[Nizzarr]

You wouldn't see loot on a phobo, retard. With as many cheaters in your guild and them letting you spew your idiocy and ignorance all over the forums in their name, they sure as fuck didn't educate you.

[Nirgon]

We got an ethereal mist helmet off a Phoboplasm. Btw, the Phoboplasms (http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Phoboplasm) if you didn't know, are the cubes that roll around with the bones in them. That should clear up any confusion.

Using Harrison's opinion as a defense lmfao. Oh yeah, this (http://www.project1999.org/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=479). Go vote to keep him while you're here, then as you like to say "go learn EQ". Haha.

[Nirgon]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4IqAMwAGn1w/SCCMCzpSVbI/AAAAAAAAB0M/oCiVavSh_LQ/s400/169-stupidity.gif

[oldfish]

We got an ethereal mist helmet off a Phoboplasm. Btw, the Phoboplasms (http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Phoboplasm) if you didn't know, are the cubes that roll around with the bones in them. That should clear up any confusion.

Using Harrison's opinion as a defense lmfao. Oh yeah, this (http://www.project1999.org/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=479). Go vote to keep him while you're here, then as you like to say "go learn EQ". Haha.

As much as i dislike Harrison, ive never seen him be cruel to someone in a wheelchair. Thats gotta be tied with trolling someone whose brother has died about it.

[Nirgon]

Oh none of them make RL attacks. Neither do you.

Fuck off.

[Harrison]

You are so fucking stupid and just never stop to notice it.

SEQ has no ability to scan a packet about a phoboplasm to "See" loot on it because it doesn't show loot on its model, hence no packet is sent to your client about loot at all until you actually loot it.

Like I said, you're a fucking retard if you petitioned that another guild intentionally cherry picked mobs with loot on them since so few actually SHOW it on SEQ anyways.

[Nirgon]

There's GM commands to check loot on mobs.....

Are you fucking with me? I mean are you fucking serious? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKNrYb0s3xc)

Tired of answering this, I'm not your fuckin' dada. You are stupid as shit.

God why did I click that view post, I just knew it.

[Nirgon]

How I feel dealing with your little group, part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwfaxZcLW0w&feature=related).

You guys are absolutely ridiculously stupid for a group that claims to know so much about EQ.

[Harrison]

There's GM commands to check loot on mobs....

Are you seriously implying that they have access to GM commands, have a GM in their pocket, or are somehow using SEQ to use GM commands to check loot?

Tell me how you think they're doing it, clearly, and concisely. No grey area, no way to back out of your bullshit.

I dare you.

[Nirgon]

seriously

Get fucking bent retard (http://www.fohguild.org/forums/2271917-post1045.html)

[Harrison]

Answer my question. You're dodging.

[Lazortag]

I predict Nirgon will claim he was "trolling" the whole time.

[Nirgon]

Are you seriously implying that they have access to GM commands, have a GM in their pocket, or are somehow using SEQ to use GM commands to check loot?

Tell me how you think they're doing it, clearly, and concisely. No grey area, no way to back out of your bullshit.

I dare you.

#1 - I'm implying that a 3rd party program can be used to peek loot.
#2 - I would highly doubt they have a GM in their pocket, I don't have proof one way or the other.
#3 - I am implying one of them was using a third party program.
#4 - I have proof of Rogean saying people are using it.
#5 - I know GMs can peek mob loots, and they were peeked and verified in fear.

[Nirgon]

I predict Nirgon will claim he was "trolling" the whole time.

No.

Like everything else, they did something stupid and blatant got caught and will now deny it even after a GM says they did it and are caught.

[Lazortag]

Has a GM said they did it?

[Nirgon]

How do I answer this delicately... without offending anyone or being bleak or accused of dodging questions...

I'll just write "worth looking into". It was disgustingly obvious.

I'm done in this thread. See you in game!

[Kringe]

Answer my question. You're dodging.

Bodu would shit all over your face with these false accusations.

[Albane]

Clear 95% of PoF, get accused of Cherry Picking loot. Holocaust is really running out of shit to throw.

[IronLikeALionInZion]

as a roleplayer i dont feel i should get in trouble for actions i do on one character, on my other character.

If silvertounge trains nubs and spams ooc with vulgar messages. I AM NOT ACCOUNTABLE for this on Ironlion. They are two separate entities.

[Nirgon]

Holocaust is really running out of shit to throw.

You know if I just made posts about everything I suspected it would go on forever.

Where have I been proven wrong before on things like this?

Oh? Never? Ok.

I even at one point admitted to being trolled into thinking the pulling of mobs through zones things was bogus against my better judgement, being an honest person and with the facts presented. Turns out that was an exploit too.

All the shit I throw at you guys sticks.

[Vile]

Bodu would shit all over your face with these false accusations.

Norrath just shook.

[Nirgon]

I'm back and forth on if they know fucking anything or they are just trying to make up shit they think someone people will believe to get them off the hook.

Really, I actually can't decide sometimes it's so bad.

[Tassador]

has anyone ever watched porn and done a stranger on themselves? I need advise on how to build arm strength for my left.

[Dotchya]

You don't need to use your left when employing the stranger technique bro, although if you wanted to look into switch hitting I advise some warmup routines. Maybe find a friend and get the dutch rudder going.

[Harrison]

#1 - I'm implying that a 3rd party program can be used to peek loot.
#2 - I would highly doubt they have a GM in their pocket, I don't have proof one way or the other.
#3 - I am implying one of them was using a third party program.
#4 - I have proof of Rogean saying people are using it.
#5 - I know GMs can peek mob loots, and they were peeked and verified in fear.

You are accusing Nihilum of having access to a third party program capable of using a GM command?

You are also claiming that you had a GM verify that the zone was cleared and ONLY loot dropping mobs were purposely hunted down?

And no one is banned for this?

You're lying.

[Nirgon]

And no one is banned for this?


Again (http://www.fohguild.org/forums/2271917-post1045.html)

Exploited dragon loots are still in too dude.

Maybe if you played Everquest you'd know something.

Say whatever you want, I was foolish for clicking view post but I knew it was in defense of Nizzarr (the epitome of what you scream about).

You're exposed to be in league with Nihilum and definitely have a grudge against their rivals on blue.

I've proven you wrong. I need to go beat my own ass for clicking that view post, I just... heh... continuing to disagree and argue... heh....

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkfEHHK5OBPPhZFkARAH5c8YSzfvjcn ThVNNZnP0lVi40pmUVYXFdojrni

[Harrison]

Yeah, you're an idiot and proved it several times in this thread and you can't back out of that now.

Posts saved for posterity in RNF. Perfect.

[Jadian]

Almost gotta admire the dedication and persistence of Holo and the lengths they go to to fuck with Nihilum at this point. Imagine if that was put to something productive what they could accomplish.

Doesn't really affect me because I barely (if at all) log on anymore cause I just don't have the time for it, but it's amusing nontheless.

[Snufz]

Productive like what?

[Zalaerian]

Poopsocking CTs DT to poopsock on Nihilum all night.

[Jadian]

Productive like what?

Working? Talking to *real* females? Walking a dog? Playing poker? Masturbating? Anything that isn't EQ related griefing?

You guys are good at what you do. It's just rather odd that what you chose to become good at is griefing people in emulated EQ.

[Snufz]

Horrible argument.

That might relate to certain poopsockers who spend 16 hours a day online.

[Lazortag]

Horrible argument.

That might relate to certain poopsockers who spend 16 hours a day online.

You guys are even more pathetic than poopsockers, you derive pleasure out of causing others grief, you need to seriously grow up if this is your idea of fun. Just today I saw one of you idiots mez some poor newb quadding specs in oasis so that he'd die from mobs. What did you gain from that? Did you take his camp? No. Did you take his coin? No. All you did was waste yours and someone else's time for no benefit to yourself. And you guys wonder why everyone on the server KOS's you as soon as they see you in zone.

Basically, this:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/itsnotrightnotright/Whistler.jpg

this:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/itsnotrightnotright/Donk3.jpg

this:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/itsnotrightnotright/Nirgondeadgg.jpg

this:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/itsnotrightnotright/Smallmeedirtnap.jpg

and this:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/itsnotrightnotright/scowleiflescowl.jpg

would not have happened if you didn't all have a reputation of being griefing shit heads.

[fiegi]

You have a total of 6 screenshots in 4 months?

[Snufz]

Probably the reason why I do so well in real life also.

1%.

[Nirgon]

One with no slain message

Hi

[Lazortag]

You have a total of 6 screenshots in 4 months?

It's actually 7 screenshots (the last one is 3 separate kills), but I don't think 7 kills from one guild in 4 months when I don't play that actively, when I'm anti-pk, and when I play a Bard (not exactly the best offensive pvp class) is so bad. I have other kills on them that I didn't screenshot too, but even if I didn't, holo zone plugs and /q's a lot so they can be very elusive.

[SamwiseRed]

just glad you killed donkee, dude is a faggot. no offense :)

[Jadian]

Horrible argument.

That might relate to certain poopsockers who spend 16 hours a day online.

Sure it could be related to them. But they put in time to have fun, you put in time to ruin others fun.

So I don't give a fuck if you think my argument is good or not, I think your whole attitude is pathetic, childish, and only exists because you hide behind computer screens.

So to each their own eh.

[SamwiseRed]

btw what happened to Nell :(

[Lazortag]

btw what happened to Nell :(

I wish I knew :(

[steaks6]

when i saw 13 pages in one day i knew this would be quality

but let me say 2 things

first off 50% of the posts are nirgon , you post too much dude
second , red99 is 90% of the biggest assholes on the internet

ON BOTH SIDES

not just holo or nihi

also , you cant expect any new players to ever play here long term due to the griefing that happens here , people grief for hours for hilarity only

yes they suck that bad in real life they take pleasure in making people mad , they get off on it , its sad but its true

this dt bullshit in fear? Get used to it , cause it aint going to stop till you kill CT

any griefing that happens to nihilum believe me they deserve it

many of their druids have griefed me on my war several times and i never did anything to any of them

they come dot you up and starfire you , i hope holo makes 90% of you quit and guild falls apart

[Jontaidoe]

Translation:

A very giggly Troriste thumb-guides his power chair up the fear ramp.

"I got this guys, the GMs say its a valid tactic. I'm so clever"

-- Entering Plane of Fear --

"Lol these guys have no fucking clue how we get down. Time to show them how to play some EverQu....."

A scareling backstabs you for 180 points of damage!
A scareling hits you for 140 points of damage!
A samhain hits you for 132 points of damage!
A samhain hits you for 87 points of damage!
A tentacle tormenter tries to hit you but misses!
A tentacle tormentor hits you for 110 points of damage!
....... etc

http://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000003640958-0piekh-crop.jpg?7da5a8a



/t Gongshow "This server is shit because of you guys!"


I mean really, you're going to pull some shit like that on THIS group? Really?

Sit your ass down.

Plane of fear PvP is what guys like Gongshow do son. Have fun fighting the great white shark in water. The "game" you guys bring is dragons stuck in ceilings, single pulling mobs through zones by invising the caster and gating, recharging items and.... GETTING CAUGHT. If you weren't so fucking stupid and overt you would get away with so much more.

As far as the screaming and complaining, give me a break. You wish you'd thought of binding a char there first, because you would have done it and would have been defending it here. Period. As far as all this shit is concerned I wish *none* of it was happening. No aggroing CT, no training, no broken dragon shit (you know you're fucking wrong now), no RMTing, no blue server plat trades etc. But, when you do it and get away with it? Nothing makes me happier than to see you wiped out in PvP and a dragon exploited exactly how you did it. Or having a char constantly aggro CT while we play fucking Jihad music in vent. Well, nothing except the hypocritical "crying" to GMs. Sirken must have loaded a petition queue that crashed his computer.

What you're doing is the same reason its so easy to charm mobs in fear, or dragons can get out of their lairs. If it wasn't a fix that made things easier? You guys wouldn't report it on blue. Case and point, as long as it works for you its not a problem. There's nothing wrong as long as you have your pixels. Well, now I guess, things have gotten just a little bit harder.

Enjoy your 2am-4am+ fear clears, nerds!

http://i42.tinypic.com/28a2a37.jpg

too long did not read. Mabe take your dick out of gong's ass for amelinda next time.

[Jadian]

when i saw 13 pages in one day i knew this would be quality

but let me say 2 things

first off 50% of the posts are nirgon , you post too much dude
second , red99 is 90% of the biggest assholes on the internet

ON BOTH SIDES

not just holo or nihi

also , you cant expect any new players to ever play here long term due to the griefing that happens here , people grief for hours for hilarity only

yes they suck that bad in real life they take pleasure in making people mad , they get off on it , its sad but its true

this dt bullshit in fear? Get used to it , cause it aint going to stop till you kill CT

any griefing that happens to nihilum believe me they deserve it

many of their druids have griefed me on my war several times and i never did anything to any of them

they come dot you up and starfire you , i hope holo makes 90% of you quit and guild falls apart

Holy shit they doted AND nuked you? Major griefing there.

[Jontaidoe]

has anyone ever watched porn and done a stranger on themselves? I need advise on how to build arm strength for my left.

fapfap with it

[SamwiseRed]

shits gettin to srs

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/421765_316189958428143_100001114233130_854061_1784 49769_n.jpg

[fiegi]

You morons need to learn what PvP is. This server is so full of trashy players who never played on a respectable true PvP server. This type of stuff would have meant an instant suspension on classic VZ.

As for trying to lie to the community and say that Nihilum did this first. Nihilum was in PoF and cleared everything except CT and Draco while constantly being forced to camp by the 2-3 Holocaust who were trying this. We actually had to spend the last 2 hours clearing, sitting at the portal, just to try and kill these guys the second they zoned in.

Liar. Good try.

http://oi41.tinypic.com/smav5f.jpg

[Gongshow]

Boom.

[Nirgon]

Constant cheating and lying lol

[Tombom]

btw what happened to Nell :(

RIP good pal

[Gongshow]

It's not like selective memory is uncommon in EQ forum battles, but Nihilum collectively has the worst case of it that I've ever seen. That or the most extremely dumb and/or delusional people to grace Emu.

[Harrison]

Constant cheating and lying lol

Don't worry, we got proof of you guys cheating. We won't forget.

[Nirgon]

So when're we getting rid of Fallen's IP exemption?

[Harrison]

When we ban holocaust and nihilum for repeated infractions of every sort.

[Albane]

Liar. Good try.

http://oi41.tinypic.com/smav5f.jpg


I fail to see where this shows that I lied. I am not going to argue what Troriste did or did not do. I just said that Nihilum cleared the last part of fear before Dracoliche, while dealing with Holocaust trying to agro CT (This was the first clearing of CT). Grats on showing a screenshot of Troriste doing the same thing back to you at a later time.

[Nirgon]

You did it first (like everything else), lulled it up. We talked to a GM about it, discussed legalities. I warned Amelinda we were going to bind in fear in advance and do it on a character that is rarely played. It *WAS* a grey area.

We had the technology. We made it faster and stronger. You guys shit your pants and wrote like 5 petitions each.

Can you just try honesty for once?

It's just a constant cycle of cheat, lie, cry from you.

Mind you now, I don't just go around making wild accusations like "all of you cheat". That said, it really is time to yank Fallen's IP exemption. Emumu, accused before him, wasn't even half as bad. He was caught, lied, reinstated.. wtfever.

[Harrison]

It is so hard to give a shit about your position Nirgon when everyone knows you guys are just as dirty.

[Peppers]

It's just a constant cycle of cheat, lie, cry ...

[Nirgon]

So last night we got to witness Lethdar and a few other Holocaust bind within Fear and then bindrush Cazic Thule or Draco over and over again whenever someone else was in the zone, causeing Fear's deathtouch script to start, forceing everyone else in the zone to camp, gate, or die.

Lethdar alone must of triggered the script over 20 times at least.

What I want to know is, is this going to be allowed or not? Amelinda was online and even spoke to people via guildchats, she was aware of what was going on but even while she was speaking, Lethdar bind rushed CT a few more times causeing more chains of DeathTouches.

Is this what the server has devolved into? Is this how we are going to attract more people after begging for "an xp bonus to save the server"??

I dont care which side does it, it has to stop or welcome to a new population high of 40 on a good night.



Funny!

You guys start something else, it has bit you in the ass just like Nagafen, and just like before - *NOW* you want the staff involved.

I expressed the same to Emumu that first night Troriste did it. I said something to the tune of "hey guys you have the numbers you don't need to be doing this shit, it's fucking training a mob, admit it. it's going to fuck things up". You know what response I got? "You mad, you definitely mad".

He was singing a different tune the other night, "Enjoy your bans".

Just stop doing this kind of shit. You had the numbers to fight us in fear last night, it would have been quite a bit harder, you didn't hafta instat /q a cleric to NW corner.

Please just deny it per usual, help burn Amelinda out, run Sirken off and get what you will really dread - FFA raid zones. It hurts you more than us.

[Nirgon]

I fail to see where this shows that I lied.

You guys are absolutely trying to spin this like we started it.

[Jadian]

We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it

[Zalaerian]

JFK, blown away, what else do I have to say...

[Palemoon]

We talked to a GM about it, discussed legalities. I warned Amelinda we were going to bind in fear in advance and do it on a character that is rarely played. It *WAS* a grey area.




So is this true? You told Amelinda in advance about binding naked throw away characters in Plane of Fear for the sole purpose of Zone Disruption? She OK'ed this plan? (I assume yes since she was there broadcasting through oh, 10 or 15 Lethdar cazic thule bind rushes).

To "keep it classic" EVEN on sullon zek (the server with no rules), the GMs stopped Fansy from "Zone Disruption" in Oasis on pain of suspension/banning. This is all documented, check their web site.

Rushing naked casters into a death touch scriped over and over = Zone Disruption and has no place on a server, even a pvp server. Did not fly on Sullon Zek, and it sure as heck should not fly here.

Keep it classic.

We really need an official ruleing on this "grey area". You guys did this again last night. Rushing multiple bound naked toons into Draco/CT to trigger server wide death touch scripts over and over is not PvP and will only hurt the server.

It Must End.

[Darwoth]

So is this true? You told Amelinda in advance about binding naked throw away characters in Plane of Fear for the sole purpose of Zone Disruption? She OK'ed this plan? (I assume yes since she was there broadcasting through oh, 10 or 15 Lethdar cazic thule bind rushes).

To "keep it classic" EVEN on sullon zek (the server with no rules), the GMs stopped Fansy from "Zone Disruption" in Oasis on pain of suspension/banning. This is all documented, check their web site.

Rushing naked casters into a death touch scriped over and over = Zone Disruption and has no place on a server, even a pvp server. Did not fly on Sullon Zek, and it sure as heck should not fly here.

Keep it classic.

We really need an official ruleing on this "grey area". You guys did this again last night. Rushing multiple bound naked toons into Draco/CT to trigger server wide death touch scripts over and over is not PvP and will only hurt the server.

It Must End.



have you ever been right about anything you have spewed?

fansy was deemed in violation of zone disruption (by a newbie guide no less and everyone knows how those interpretations went) for no other reason than he could not be attacked due to pvp not starting until level 6 and him being level 5, the server was then turned to pvp starting at level 1 and life went on.

[Palemoon]

Point on Zone Disruption stands. Its not classic.

[Albane]

have you ever been right about anything you have spewed?

fansy was deemed in violation of zone disruption (by a newbie guide no less and everyone knows how those interpretations went) for no other reason than he could not be attacked due to pvp not starting until level 6 and him being level 5, the server was then turned to pvp starting at level 1 and life went on.

So your argument for his entire post is to cover the small part about Fansy? This server is not SZ, thank god.

[Darwoth]

no not really, since......



the "disruption" came from him being out of pvp range, since you are in the planes this is not an issue.

the gm 12 years ago said it was not bannable

this server is not that server and is not classic

fear/hate/everything else was a nonstop trainfest on sullon and folks had to develop tactics to combat them.

[Albane]

fear/hate/everything else was a nonstop trainfest on sullon and folks had to develop tactics to combat them.

Sullon was a shitty server that only had shitty players on it. On VZ, RZ, and TZ, these were offenses that caused players to be suspended and guilds to be disbanded.

[Zalaerian]

Lethdar fully rezed up rdy for another night of fun

[Darwoth]

Sullon was a shitty server that only had shitty players on it. On VZ, RZ, and TZ, these were offenses that caused players to be suspended and guilds to be disbanded.

there were two pvp servers, RZ and SZ, everybody that was worth a remote fuck on RZ moved to SZ and left the remaining playerbase of anti pk carebears to squabble with themselves.

VZ and TZ..... pvp server? lol yeah don't think so.

[Albane]

Lethdar fully rezed up rdy for another night of fun

I am sure he is. This has been Holocaust' only strategy to PvP against even numbers for months. Pretty funny considering you guys don't care about the "pixels".

[SamwiseRed]

actually it is pretty fun and that is probably why they do it. playin for laughs is different then playing for pixels. have fun and enjoy the game albane you fat fuck lol

[Nirgon]

So is this true? You told Amelinda in advance about binding naked throw away characters in Plane of Fear for the sole purpose of Zone Disruption? She OK'ed this plan? (I assume yes since she was there broadcasting through oh, 10 or 15 Lethdar cazic thule bind rushes).

To "keep it classic" EVEN on sullon zek (the server with no rules), the GMs stopped Fansy from "Zone Disruption" in Oasis on pain of suspension/banning. This is all documented, check their web site.

Rushing naked casters into a death touch scriped over and over = Zone Disruption and has no place on a server, even a pvp server. Did not fly on Sullon Zek, and it sure as heck should not fly here.

Keep it classic.

We really need an official ruleing on this "grey area". You guys did this again last night. Rushing multiple bound naked toons into Draco/CT to trigger server wide death touch scripts over and over is not PvP and will only hurt the server.

It Must End.


Yeah, I have nothing to hide or lie about.

I asked her, she said it was determined to be fair and valid to aggro CT. Now, to be fair, this was before the post she made in the non-RNF section.

And, because I just clearly answered it to people of an average level of comprehension and will be accused for some reason of dodging the question.

I told Amelinda in advance that since Troriste did that and it was considered legal that we would do that

[Supreme]

actually it is pretty fun and that is probably why they do it. playin for laughs is different then playing for pixels. have fun and enjoy the game albane you fat fuck lol

This coming from a guy that has the face of a bulldog's ass.

SamwiseRed confirmed ugly as fuck lol.

[Supreme]

Yeah, I have nothing to hide or lie about.

I asked her, she said it was determined to be fair and valid to aggro CT. Now, to be fair, this was before the post she made in the non-RNF section.

And, because I just clearly answered it to people of an average level of comprehension and will be accused for some reason of dodging the question.

I told Amelinda in advance that since Troriste did that and it was considered legal that we would do that


Kinda like when you guys would train at nagafen over and over....i mean since there is no enforcement on training lets all train together!

[SamwiseRed]

^mad as hell. anyway test

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[Nirgon]

no not really, since......



the "disruption" came from him being out of pvp range, since you are in the planes this is not an issue.

the gm 12 years ago said it was not bannable

this server is not that server and is not classic

fear/hate/everything else was a nonstop trainfest on sullon and folks had to develop tactics to combat them.

D, we're not going for Sullon here. But I hear you and it would be a huge advantage to us given our fewer numbers.

And let me be clear on the rules so both sides get it through their head. As it currently stands, and I do disagree:

You have to have more than one person in the zone when CT gets aggro'd.

One guy getting buffed up and charging through the portal = illegal.
Having people in the zone buffing, apparently, is legal. As long as a raid force is present and in the zone, it's legal. So, our typical raid of 8-12 will be in when this happens.

If people start pulling this one person in the zone shit? 2 week suspension.



Here's another deal! I hope Amelinda, Rogean, Nilbog, along with God and his choir of angels are reading this:

If Fallen or anyone else /q's out to exploit their IP exemption, I will train the fuck out of you and likely couple with with a CT death touch rotation.

Stop. Fucking. Breaking. The. Rules.

[SamwiseRed]

they embedding youtube vids on blue forums, tryin to figure that shi out.

[Slathar]

wait a second

people play Everquest pvp without intending to grief?

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[SamwiseRed]

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[Nirgon]

Kinda like when you guys would train at nagafen over and over....i mean since there is no enforcement on training lets all train together!

I'll keep the insults out of this regardless of how forgetful you are, how annoying it is to remind you of things or just how short term your memory is..

We've been over the pathing issues in that zone. If people don't get suspended with a GM watching, you have to be OK with it. Yeah, it sucks. It goes both ways in SolB. I remain confident that someone intentionally training in there thinking they're getting away with it will get crucified.

We've been trained brutally in SolB. Gongshow and Amelinda have "had words". You must learn to respect the staff's decision.

[Dotchya]

This coming from a guy that has the face of a bulldog's ass.

SamwiseRed confirmed ugly as fuck lol.

Judging another guy's attractiveness, confirmed faggot.

[lethdar]

Point on Zone Disruption stands. Its not classic.

You're dumb. Fansy was because there was no pvp solution, ala he was too low to be attacked, so they made it so any range could attack him and bring about a pvp solution to the issue.

Don't like what I do? Stop me.

[lethdar]

PS, i like how fallen never had a roommate when he was in holocaust, but suddenly once hes in the same guild as other people know to exploit it such as emumu he gains one and da /q and exploit kicks every single time.

[Nirgon]

Kinda like when you guys would train at nagafen over and over....i mean since there is no enforcement on training lets all train together!

Well, that just isn't true.

If I have the time to log in tonight?

I will probably be joining Crazycloud as I am certain IP exemptions will be exploited to get clerics into safe spots or to dodge deaths.

:)

[Palemoon]

I will probably be joining Crazycloud :)


We figured Crazycloud got suspended, glad to see they are starting to look at the fraps. This has to end.

[Palemoon]

And let me be clear on the rules so both sides get it through their head. As it currently stands, and I do disagree:

You have to have more than one person in the zone when CT gets aggro'd.

One guy getting buffed up and charging through the portal = illegal.
Having people in the zone buffing, apparently, is legal. As long as a raid force is present and in the zone, it's legal. So, our typical raid of 8-12 will be in when this happens.

If people start pulling this one person in the zone shit? 2 week suspension.




So which is it, having one other person in the zone when you bind rush CT, or a raid force of at least 8? Which did Amelinda tell you?

I know last night the deathtouch script was triggered several times with only one holo in zone. Would love to see it enforced that you get suspension if you trigger the script without your own raid force being in the zone.

Need this cleared up so we know how to proceed.

[Nirgon]

I'm not the expert on rules on blue but...

You just cant' send one guy in over and over... does two make a difference? Three? I dunno, dont be a shit bag. If you can actually farm fear (you can) with 3 people.. fine I guess, zone 3 people in. But one guy naked over and over or getting rezzed out after a train should definitely = suspend for 2 weeks.

[Palemoon]

Amelinda wrote:

tactic of sending in one player at a time to set off the cycle and fuck over holocausts full raid is exactly that: bullshit tactics. THAT will get you in trouble. Either zone in your entire raid and take equal DT's like men or don't use this tactic. Period.

In the other thread. So from this, if we continue to see one or two naked holocaust casters dive into draco over and over, we can expect them to get suspended right? Would screenshots of /who in the zone showing how many holo are present when the DT script starts suffice to show if they do or do not have a raid in the zone?

[Nirgon]

We figured Crazycloud got suspended, glad to see they are starting to look at the fraps. This has to end.

See, where I have credibility is I'm honest.

Please encourage some of your members to do the same.

[Nirgon]

Amelinda wrote:



In the other thread. So from this, if we continue to see one or two naked holocaust casters dive into draco over and over, we can expect them to get suspended right? Would screenshots of /who in the zone showing how many holo are present when the DT script starts suffice to show if they do or do not have a raid in the zone?

That's completely rhetorical :)

Again, and I get criticized for "thinking I'm better than anyone else", I'm not afraid to play legit, Classic EQ. Some people definitely are.

I think Arzak is a sound player, so is Destin.

I think Fallen is cheating and should lose his IP exemption for what it cost us last night.

This stuff will hurt you guys as much as us, we're not stupid, we can figure this "leet bluebie server" shit out in 2 seconds and turn it on you. In fact, there's tons of blue players with grudges against certain members of your guild and I've started learning about this kind of stuff in advance. Think I'm kidding? Look at that Xantille screen shot of me saying everyone must camp, definitely knew ahead of time and that I think was the first or first of many instances on that initial night.

Talk to your guild about it.

[Harrison]

Sullon was a shitty server that only had shitty players on it. On VZ, RZ, and TZ, these were offenses that caused players to be suspended and guilds to be disbanded.

^truth.

[Salty]

Sullon was the best pvp server by far.

[Nirgon]

This server definitely was rather cliquey.... I would have been curious to see how teams turned out.

However, with these pop #'s... it would have been a total disaster bluebie team evil server.

[Salty]

The bluebies are cliquey as fuck, on this server, and on p99.

One of the main reasons why I appreciate the vztz pals that play here the most. Even the people I hated the most on vztz, they never hold grudges against you just because of what you said to them on the battlefield.

p99/red99 bluebies are fucking faggots, above and beyond.

[Harrison]

Salty is just mad he got laughed off of Blue, hard, and laughed off of this server when his guild failed like I said it would.

[Salty]

I still play and higher level than you bro.

Harrison confirmed delusional as fuck.

More people hate you on this forum than any poster.


So you can keep trying.

[Zalaerian]

I like Salty

[Harrison]

Oh, the object of the forums is to be popular? I've been doing it wrong all this time.

I'm going to log in and start exploiting up a storm, training, saying bro as often as possible, spewing racism incessantly, and other such popular activities as corpse camping, bind camping, and general asshattery that ruins this server. I'll be your bast frands soon brews!

[Lulz Sect]

feels good man

[Prince]

paymelinda***

[SamwiseRed]

OP is arzak/sundawg/trollborn

swell guy

[Agatha]

in the words of somone i used to admire.


...because this isn't the shallow end of the pool. Head on over to Blue if you'd prefer that gaming experience.

Amelinda nor any GM is a babysitter, and nor should they be. Learn to handle your shit. Troriste and Skelly and Grey and whoever else tried to do this to us 6+ times last night and we stopped them 5 out of 6 times. (Where do you think we got the strat? Sound familiar?) Prepare, adjust strategies, adapt. This type of shit is all part of the classic PVP experience. Adapt or perish. Natural selection. Enjoy Blue.

Sounds like you had a good night though.

ALLAH AKBAR!!!

[goalie]

griefing > "pvp"

[Reddi]

Best bump 2013.

[Nirgon]

So last night we got to witness Lethdar and a few other Holocaust bind within Fear and then bindrush Cazic Thule or Draco over and over again whenever someone else was in the zone, causeing Fear's deathtouch script to start, forceing everyone else in the zone to camp, gate, or die.

Lethdar alone must of triggered the script over 20 times at least.

What I want to know is, is this going to be allowed or not? Amelinda was online and even spoke to people via guildchats, she was aware of what was going on but even while she was speaking, Lethdar bind rushed CT a few more times causeing more chains of DeathTouches.

Is this what the server has devolved into? Is this how we are going to attract more people after begging for "an xp bonus to save the server"??

I dont care which side does it, it has to stop or welcome to a new population high of 40 on a good night.

p.s. Amelinda, why did you not stop Lethdar from triggering the deathtouch script the oh.. half dozen times alone he did it while you were broadcasting? I was shocked to see him still online and still bind rushing draco/CT while you were there.

Your guild leader called this a legit tactic that night and so did the GM he had ... well.

You reap what you sow.