Harsher and proper punishments for those caught exploiting, cheatingm, hacking, etc.

[Harrison]

Serious poll for the benefit of the server and community.

[fiegi]

sig

[IronLikeALionInZion]

as much as i dislike harrison.

i will agree with his position that punishments on this server is a joke. and people caught for things should be perm banned.

[quickcheck]

.... fat slob

[Nirgon]

Hated by 64/80

[Harrison]

Someone should add option 4: "Make Harrison a character with GM warp abilities, unable to interact with npcs, pcs, or anything at all. Not even able to talk in say or tells." I will just GM invis around with fraps running to catch you dirty fucks in my spare time.

[Harrison]

So far: one confirmed exploiter in opposition to punishments for his guild that has already been caught.

[IronLikeALionInZion]

if harrison was given no powers other then that.

might not be a bad idea.

god i cant believe im saying this.

has it really gotten that bad?

[Nirgon]

as much as i dislike harrison.

i will agree with his position that punishments on this server is a joke. and people caught for things should be perm banned.

Nihi woulda been gone. Holo never woulda done shit.

[Harrison]

Is he really resorting to: "We only did it because they were doing it!" and thinking that this is even right?

I think every child from 12 up learns this is fucking wrong.

[Billbike]

Let's clear the air.

Do you Harrison, actively play a toon on Red?

Well which is it?

Yes

Or

No

Would you go so far as to tell us who you are (on Red)? I'm being serious here.

[Nirgon]

It doesn't matter if we want him here or not dude, I tried

[Snufz]

In conclusion, another thread posted by Harrison that will turn away new players (Will see title and think server is full of cheaters.)

He must donate/or is guineapig.

[Harrison]

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tootsie-pop-owl.jpg

[Truth]

h00t

[Harrison]

In conclusion, another thread posted by Harrison that will turn away new players (Will see title and think server is full of cheaters.)

He must donate/or is guineapig.

It is.

Holocaust and Nihilum are not banned so a minimum of 25% of population are in-fact cheaters by that fact alone and none banned.

This poll is a gauge of interest in punishing them as the rules state they should be or harsher. No one cares about your insignificant opinions about me. This is about the server's health.

[Jabber]

It is.

Holocaust and Nihilum are not banned so a minimum of 25% of population are in-fact cheaters by that fact alone and none banned.

This poll is a gauge of interest in punishing them as the rules state they should be or harsher. No one cares about your insignificant opinions about me. This is about the server's health.

Cry about it you fat fucking idiot

[Lulz Sect]

http://i.imgur.com/VClx9.png

[Pitborn]

If you dont play here anymore, you shouldnt be able to make posts or start polls.

Gtfo.

[Albane]

If you have been banned or suspended on red99, you shouldnt be able to make posts or start polls.

Gtfo.


Fixed

[Nirgon]

Good post Albane, I agree.

Bunch of people running around with bowls of pissed in cheerios in here. In fact, there should be a wall of shame for certain offenses for suspended players. After a suspension maybe you can only post in RNF? I think Rogean wanted/talked about tieing forum accounts to in game but it'd be a massive undertaking and maybe not as big a deal as we make it? Personally, I think it is but his time and talent are better spent elsewhere.

New players should see these threads and know that the rules ARE enforced. People MIGHT get away with it for a LITTLE WHILE, but the terms of justice are ABSOLUTE.

[Billbike]

Scared to play red HARRISON? Scared to say who your toon was that you abandoned in failure HARRISON?

You must know what this means.
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/4/10/88798b60-ad26-4fe1-b08f-8b99c0b0b809.jpg

Edit: yes enforce rules, make examples.
Edit 2.0 for accuracy.

[Nirgon]

Really, there's no shame in not wanting to play on the red server, all trolling aside.

Death is a beast in EQ compared to other games.

Sure there's the "oh ha you mad" trash talk about "people who can't handle it".

But honestly, let he who has not been angered in PvP cast the first fucking stone.

Just leave with your dignity intact and don't make a big deal about it. People will think much more of you.

[Albane]

New players should see these threads and know that the rules ARE enforced. People MIGHT get away with it for a LITTLE WHILE, but the terms of justice are ABSOLUTE.

I had hoped that this server would have turned the corner by now. Hopefully all of this PoF crap will help to build a more solid community where content is fought over using PvP and not trains/DT. It is nice to hear that some members of Holocaust are interested in coming up with a solution, now to see how long it takes to get both guilds to agree on something and begin enforcing it.

[Harrison]

60% agree

The rest are Holocaust.

Nuff said.

[Nirgon]

Look, I'll be straight the fuck up.

Our monks will run the Nihilums out of the fucking gym if this change goes in (planar FFA zone). No offense guys, inb4 proud about being able to train.... (it's more than just that fyi)

That said, in my experience across pvp boxes and on live... this whole raid rules thing was traversed before. Hind sight should be 20/20.

Here's what happened on Rallos (feel free to verify all of this using the link in my sig):
People started getting smacked up by GMs for training, there was bans mostly on the Peacebreaker side, none to Facultas, maybe a suspension or two to AD.

Shit like dispelling the Statue of Rallos Zek happened, raids wiped then we'd camp the zone ins. Well, that netted a suspension and the whole fucking rule lawyering thing opened up. Guild reps spoke with Sony's head CSR. An agreement was, keep your members on a fucking leash and absolutely never give orders for members to train. He assured us he would be sifting through all of our trash, tells... guild chat... you name it. He was brought in because the GMs and Guides were *SICK* of logging in to full petition queues every day. Understandable.

Well, that all went well until plane of fear PvP after. Training in other zones was mostly non-existant in places like Plane of Growth, Western Wastes, Temple of Veeshan etc.

Plane of fear boy.. there was just no way to really enforce that other than if God GM Ozuri saw you cut straight out from the portal, loop around for a bunch of mobs and drop them on people. The mobs have a large aggro range (appears classic here actually!), some see invis, some don't. If someone is being chased in PvP, heads up on top of the hill believing it to be safe, good chance a scareling or shiverback is going to get up in their ass. They then channel a gate, and the person chasing heads to the next target, unbeknownst to them the madness is on their tail.

Screaming and finger pointing resulted. Rather than continue to modify the rules, or call another meeting....

PVP WAS OUTLAWED IN RAID ZONES

If you entered a raid zone after another guild that had started any kind of clearing? And came within a hundred fucking feet on them? Ozuri would shut the zone down, and send everyone to their binds.


Let's not go that route or give in to frustration. Let's use prior experiences here and put some rules in place that make sense.

Or? Just do nothing and things will start to eat huge cock.

[Albane]

PVP WAS OUTLAWED IN RAID ZONES


I would have quit VZ if they tried to make a rule like that. PvP in Plane of Fear and Plane of Hate was some awesome PvP. I also remember great battles at the zone in to Temple of Veeshan.

[Nirgon]

Oh we quit all right. But people hyping these other PvP servers don't even know how fucking nasty and brutal our RZ shit got. Everything happening there can turn out here, and is occurring as predicted.

I'm not trying to toot my own horn but am I guess at the same time =p.

The worst part is staff/casual player burn out and the creation of GM PvP killer tyrants. They will get tired of it.

We need fire and forget rules that work.

I'll tell you this too. Before the rules work? Examples will/must be made.

[Snufz]

Plane of Fear is Sullon Zek reborn.

ALLLLLAHHHH ACKKBARRRRRR.

[Zallar]

I voted 1

I support a wall of shame for bans / suspensions.

I also read Nirgons livejournal all the way through and agree with most. However, from my memories on SZ the guilds trained the SHIT out of each other in raid zones until they either:

A) Zerged up enough members to cock block the zone lines
B) Paid some other guild to camp the zone lines while they raided
C) Made a bluebie pact with the warring guild and told their members to shut the fuck up about it or get out when they whined about bluebie pacts on SZ.

Let the pain keep riding until someone breaks. It's only been a couple of days?

[Nirgon]

^ I didn't say trains couldn't be funny to watch though! =)

[Harrison]

Even the people who voted yes hate me. The rest are the very problem with this server, the cheaters themselves.

[Lulz Sect]

FAT

[hagard]

can we have a gm take this down? the op is obviously trying to deter new players by making posts with titles like this. also can we have a new rule where posters like this get forum bans? pls and thank you

[steaks6]

http://i.imgur.com/VClx9.png

fucking epic pic !

[Harrison]

can we have a gm take this down? the op is obviously trying to deter new players by making posts with titles like this. also can we have a new rule where posters like this get forum bans? pls and thank you

100% wrong.

I am trying to better the server. Letting you dirty fucks run around without consequence is a MAJOR problem with this server right now.

[hagard]

This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list.

He probably mad

[Truth]

Hemad

[hagard]

Furiously slicing meat

[Truth]

still smilin hard as hell

[Aenor]

Someone should add option 4: "Make Harrison a character with GM warp abilities, unable to interact with npcs, pcs, or anything at all. Not even able to talk in say or tells." I will just GM invis around with fraps running to catch you dirty fucks in my spare time.

I support this 100%. No troll.

[Harrison]

Got them sweating just at the thought of that.

[KB_Trader]

Got them sweating just at the thought of that.

p sure ur the only one sweating, tubby. god i bet you smell awful.

[Harrison]

Someone should add option 4: "Make Harrison a character with GM warp abilities, unable to interact with npcs, pcs, or anything at all. Not even able to talk in say or tells." I will just GM invis around with fraps running to catch you dirty fucks in my spare time.

Bump

[heartbrand]

voted no because there was no option of having clear rules with clear punishments

[Palemoon]

I voted yes. Harsher punishment is the only way to put a stop to the trains and chain bind rushing CT to start the deathtouch script over and over.

Right now, people train all the time, knowing they will only be caught for maybe 1 in 30 trains, and then that will result in a couple days suspension to maybe a week.

Thats worth it, thats CRIME THAT PAYS.

Why dont people box? (well most people) because its not worth it. You box for several real life days over a the course of a toons life, chances are you are going to be caught and there is no going back, your toon is gone. That is a CRIME THAT DOES NOT PAY.

Harsher (very harsh) punishment is needed to put a stop to the anti-social behavior going on red99 that will result in a population death spiral.

[Xantille]

Voted yes because wheelchair bound bros like Fallen continue to insta-camp without any consequence.

[Nirgon]

Voted yes because wheelchair bound bros like Fallen continue to insta-camp without any consequence.

10-15 times a night

[FoxxHound]

I would have voted, but poll be closed~

[nerfed]

lol @ thinking we insta camp.

[Tassador]

dudes the guy who was george constanza boss in seinfield shot himself in the temple and lived. Wierdest 911 call ever i think my penis went inside i could only see balls.

[heartbrand]

lol @ thinking we insta camp.

not you, Fallen.

[Nirgon]

Bordering on some RNF here:

Everyone saw Fallen with like 2 mobs on him instantly poof while standing.

You guys have absolutely zero credibility.

[Harrison]

Someone should add option 4: "Make Harrison a character with GM warp abilities, unable to interact with npcs, pcs, or anything at all. Not even able to talk in say or tells." I will just GM invis around with fraps running to catch you dirty fucks in my spare time.

Bump

[Harrison]

Back to the top!

Support punishing those ruining the server, harshly. Run the likes of Holocaust and Nihilum off the server to return legitimacy.

[fiegi]

This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list.

x2

[steaks6]

dudes the guy who was george constanza boss in seinfield shot himself in the temple and lived. Wierdest 911 call ever i think my penis went inside i could only see balls.

your penis went inside what the fuck?

[gloinz]

your penis went inside what the fuck?

like a tortoise disgusted and or scared

[Slathar]

This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list.

x2

[Harrison]

Thanks for the free bumps that are helping to keep everyone informed of the score.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60418

Holocaust caught exploiting.

I support harsher punishments for scumbags. Please keep bumping this, Holocaust.

[Slathar]

This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list.

[Harrison]

Thank you for the free bump, Holocaust member.

[fiegi]

This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list.

[Harrison]

You guys may cheat, exploit, and suck at Everquest but man are you helpful in my thread. Thank you so much for the help in bringing awareness to the issue of exploiters not being punished properly and requiring harsher sentences.

[Harrison]

Bump

[hagard]

This message is hidden because Harrison is on your ignore list. Harrison so gay

[Vityaz]

None of the options really match my thoughts.

Red - Cheating through warps, MQ, etc - permanent ban
Cheating through MySEQ/SEQ - suspension

Blue - Cheating that affects raid bosses - permanent ban
Anything else - no punishment

[Ragemaster9999]

If you wanted a serious poll, you would remove the harrison reference. Its a yes or no question. I think they should just delete character involved with the exploits, though Perma bann works too imo. If you exploit on Everquest LIVE, im sure you will get your shit pushed in real fast by the SOE ban-hammer.

[hagard]

If you exploit on Everquest LIVE, im sure you will get your shit pushed in real fast by the SOE ban-hammer.

He he he riiiight

[The Neck Beard]

In classic EQ, I managed to figure out a way to get underneath the world via levitate in nearly every zone. With spells not needing a los component, I managed to get a nuke team, underneath the world, to Neriak bank. While you couldn't target someone while underneath the world, you could assist a lvl 1 dark elf.... And that's how my high elf wizard ended up with a SMR.

Did the EQ gms ever ban me/suspsend me for doing this? No. The worst thing that happened is a guide told me to stop exploiting geometry for a free transport the safe point in zone.

Which gets me to my point: On live, GMs didn't really give a shit about third tier low pop server 'sploits. Any enforcement efforts greater than zero, is more than what was shown on live.

[pewpeat]

hahahah the neck beard you are actually claiming to be Mordrack from VZ?! thats a bit LOL
that account passed around prophets (and other clicks) so fucking much it wasnt even funny. it would be like some fag from FU claiming to be whorella. lol no shit you were that toon jack, like 30 people played it (to train/hack/dupe) why not claim to be nishu or deneeria or merz if you just wanted to look like a faggot

AND this is a dumb poll. abviously no one would ever let harrison have anything to do with the red server, especially as a magic carpet riding fraps toting GM crusader. the idea is laughable

[The Neck Beard]

Yeah, I ended up with it from 2004 onward. Before that, I played as primarily Ballan, until I got B&'d. Then Tarne made me play Mordrack.