Doubleclass

[fischsemmel]

Just for laughs, if you could play a character on p1999 that was a combination of any two classes... which would they be?

Assume all the typical mechanics on the server are in place other than the fact that you can take the best aspects of two different classes and combine them into one class.


At the moment my doubleclass of choice would be monkbard. Plate armor, no weight limit, awesome sustained DPS, feign, mend, hide, sneak, and all those great bard songs that are all usable while still meleeing.

I would say roguebard if trak guts were dropping, because ragebringer mainhand and SSS offhand would be just ridiculous.

[Xadion]

Necro War

... wait

[Extunarian]

shaman w/ charm.

[fischsemmel]

wtf class is charm?

:rolleyes:

[Splorf22]

I actually gave this a good bit of thought. My favorite was the all-int-caster enc/mag/nec/wiz which has a nice theme to it. But if I'm restricted to two, I'm going with enchanter/shaman and is probably stronger than the above combination anyway. Raiding would be even worse - I'm cringing just thinking about the buff tells.

[Lazortag]

Bard/wizard for porting and for making ae kiting even easier.

[Rubexcube666]

Ranger/Ranger

[fischsemmel]

Xadion: What is wrong with warriornecromancer? Spell aggro, lifetaps, lifetap dots, free pet damage, fearkite potential. And it's not like SK already is that. SK is like a shitty warrior and a shitty necro combined, not the best of each combined.

Two for enchantershaman already. Powerful for sure, but it would suck maximizing that class. Nonstop buffing and debuffing and canni. It'd be like playing a bard.

Whats the range on the wiz pbaoes? Also, I forgot that bard+caster means casting on the move. I still don't like bard+caster though, since you can't be twisting and casting at the same time, or twisting and medding at the same time.

[lostclover]

What about shaman and ranger?

I would think it'd be the best solo / quester possible. Track, snare, slow, regen, ds, heals, decent tank ability and solid dps.

I'd also like monk/Druid. You'd lose slow, but ports, fd, better ds and still can track.

[fischsemmel]

Ranger/Ranger

The only thing that would be better than doubleclass ranger/ranger would be if you got the hybrid xp penalty applied twice.

[fischsemmel]

What about shaman and ranger?

I would think it'd be the best solo / quester possible. Track, snare, slow, regen, ds, heals, decent tank ability and solid dps.

I'd also like monk/Druid. You'd lose slow, but ports, fd, better ds and still can track.

Meh.

Shamrang would be a stronger than anything that exists right now... but not by a whole lot. The ONLY perk the ranger brings to sham that another melee wouldn't do better is track.

Monk/druid would be only about as potent as a shaman is right now by itself. Sure you have dps and some buffs, but you've got no mana regen, no real CC, no haste, no slow. You'd still only be wearing leather-ish armor, you miss out on melee while casting and vice versa, etc.

[Extunarian]

wtf class is charm?

:rolleyes:

I was going to say chanter but I really only want the charm.

[fischsemmel]

I was going to say chanter but I really only want the charm.

Blah. You'd be like a heavyweight champion who only had one arm. Yeah, you'd still kick the average guy's ass... but you'd HARDLY be living up to your two-armed potential!

[jerok88]

Rogue/necro for max deeps and your own backstab-fearkiting

[Kope]

Interesing combinations:

Bard/Mage - Pet + regen while moving + casting while moving + cc = win

Bard/Cleric

I really think a Monk/Sham DUALclass would be powerful as heck.

[Diggles]

Enchanter + Wizard

Druid + Monk

Ranger + Ranger might make an actual class...

Bard + Warrior, songs and decent melee

Cleric + Magician

[Szeth]

Monk Enchanter

[Lishrac]

I would go with shaman/necro. Necro already has a huge toolbox at their disposal but you toss in the buffs, debuffs, and dots of the shaman on top of what the necro already has and you have pretty stupid damage potential.

Not to mention who wouldn't get wet over lich+canni+lifetap?

[Diggles]

Do doubleclasses get 16 spell slots? :p

I think Druid + Monk would be awesome just because of the melee power of a monk mixed with amazing utility buffs (if doubleclass is totally just meshed instead of some hybrid then you get monks with staffs and shurikens) it would probably make an amazing solo class even better

[fischsemmel]

Rogue/necro for max deeps and your own backstab-fearkiting

Eh. You're basically just a rogue with a necro pet, or a necro who gets melee damage but doesn't get to med at all.

I'd go magenecro or bardrogue instead.

[fischsemmel]

What's with all the love for monkdruid? You would basically be a monk with with a fungi, a DS, and ports.

How is that more appealing than ANY of the following:

monkpaladin - plate, stuns, heals, harmony that doesn't only work outdoors
monkshaman - chain, haste, slow, better buffs and equal heals to druid, free pet damage
monkcleric - plate, stuns, awesome hp/ac buffs, CH, 2 invuln spells, harmony that doesn't only work outdoors
monkbard - plate, full monk damage while getting full bardsong usage
monkenchanter - haste, slow, stuns, runes, free pet damage, harmony that doesn't only work outdoors

[falkun]

Bard+shaman. Long lasting slow, torpor +selos, casting on the move, snare, lull, charm, canni, double regen. You would have twice the encounter control either of these classes bring solo.

[fischsemmel]

Bard+shaman. Long lasting slow, torpor +selos, casting on the move, snare, lull, charm, canni, double regen. You would have twice the encounter control either of these classes bring solo.

I'm not really feeling it.

I don't see how this combo is going to accomplish much of anything that a plain shaman couldn't do. The only solid bonus I see coming from bard for a shaman is keeping cantata up for hp+mp regen -> slightly less downtime (even though you already have very little to begin with at 60).

[sbvera13]

Bard or Ranger + any class with bind.

[Phallax]

I love how he asks what wed all "like" to play then hates on everyones choices but his own...

OT: Shaman/Warrior

[Diggles]

No one feels bardwarrior love? Songs while being a melee boss?

[Nirgon]

Bard/wizard for porting and for making ae kiting even easier.

Nirgon + Bundy

[Nirgon]

I'm not really feeling it.


I don't think the bard dots break root. Sooo for real though..

My vote for real is ogre shaman / jbb.

That's it.

[gprater]

my favorite multi-class AD&D(1st edition) combo was Magic-user/thief, so I guess wizard/rogue...no justification or support, just an answer.

[bnehring]

just give me a warrior-cleric or monk cleric

[Wotsirb401]

Shaman/Monk, aka beastlord but they would have the pure dps of a monk combined with the massive power of shaman. Torpor , bad ass slow , dots etc . The soloing machine

[eqravenprince]

Enchanter+Druid - best duo in the game, seems like it would be the best double class too.

[fischsemmel]

I love how he asks what wed all "like" to play then hates on everyones choices but his own...

OT: Shaman/Warrior

3 things.

1. Asking a question about something hardly precludes me from having and stating an opinion on other people's answers to that question.

2. I haven't hated on everyone else's choices.

3. I'd have a lot harder time hating on people's choices if they were to say something like "wizard/druid so I have all the port locations" instead of "wizard/druid cause it's the rockzorest soloer evar."

[fischsemmel]

No one feels bardwarrior love? Songs while being a melee boss?

Especially ogre, so that you don't get your songs interrupted constantly by stuns.

If I wanted to tank ever, I'd totally go with this. Although warriormonk would be a better idea for groups and raids, since in a doubleclass world any time you are even in a 3 person group, let alone a full group or a raid, you're definitely going to have full everything buffs, and warriormonk would mean max melee skills of every type plus AC bonus plus plate armor plus a bunch of disciplines to choose from, and mend.

[Grozmok]

Cleric/War but with real healing.

If you say paladin I'll fucking strangle you.

[acid_reflux]

I like the rogue wizard idea... hide/sneak up into the middle of some trouble. Get a windup on a pbaoe before hide drops and duck out of combat after everyone shits their panties..sweet.

[Silentone]

Enchanter-cleric, or shaman-monk

[Flunklesnarkin]

rog / paladin could be fun

[Orruar]

SK/shaman

[Littlestgnome]

Druid/Mage seems like an obvious choice to me. The ONLY thing that ever held Mages back when it came to soloing was the inability to fear, snare, and/or root of their own accord. I'd love to be able to whip out a water pet and fear-kite animals all day long, or toss out an air pet for all my tanking needs knowing I've got root already covered and can nuke at-will while he stun locks the mob. And of course all that goodness would come with ports, travel speed, self healing, still the best DS in the game, and oh what the hell permanent regen for my pet AND my mod-rodding self.

The ONLY downside I see would be trying to max both Int and Wis.

[Splorf22]

Bardwarrior is legit imo diggles. A warrior's biggest problems are aggro and utility and bard songs fix both.

[rigi]

necro + wiz good soloing and something to do during raids :)

[Nirgon]

Druid charmed pet with mage swords + fire pet with mage swords. Ports, sowed pets, agro kite with flame lick. GG.

[dhoushi]

Enchanter/Monk

Charm with Feign Death? Yes please!

[aresprophet]

Necro and druid.

A good necro knows not to max int, so you don't have to worry too much about stat overlap. Reliable long-duration non-dot low-mana snare solves a lot of necro soloing issues. Regen complements Lich series well, as does SLN and its higher variants. Buffs and heals for the pet let it tank things you can't otherwise fear-kite. Animals and Undead are both trivially easy to solo thanks to low-mana fears and charms for both. Druid roots are available early (compared to the 34 necro root) and are more reliable until 49; in my experience they are superior past that.

Charm-killing for druids has always had one major weakness: an inability to escape when the shit hits the fan. FD solves that. Druids also lack IVU. Combine FD+CoS with ports and SoW and you have the ultimate travel class. Go anywhere, anytime, don't give a fuck. Harmshield + FD + evac = groups never have to fear wipes.

You have mezzes, charms, snares, roots, FD, invis and IVU, ports, sow, pet haste (for undead or animals), health and mana regen, heals, nukes, dots, AoEs (both pbaoe and targeted), and all of this stuff synergizes into a class that can solo far more than any melee-based class combo ever could. I spent a lot of time playing both classes and I always felt like whatever the ncro lacked the druid did well, and whatever the druid lacked the necro did well. They complement each other and should never be allowed to join forces.

The only superior combo I can think of is shaman + mage but in the specific circumstance where you're trying to solo high-level group (or raid-level) content. You sacrifice the amazing utility of necro/druid for the ability to kill otherwise unkillable mobs in long, drawn-out wars of attrition. I wouldn't want to have to hop around Norrath without ports and the combo of IVU and invis.

[fishingme]

warrior/wizard

[Quizy]

Nothing beats a monk shaman..

can slow stuff and torpor your self .... root adds for some cc and slow everything ..... self fully raid buffed basically .... full hasted dps ... winner winner

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