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Bkab
02-12-2012, 02:12 AM
When are we going to see the next patch or any kind of changes period? I understand you guys are extremely busy and do this for free, you don't have to keep rehashing this point to me as I've said in numerous posts how much I appreciate what you guys do.. But for reals, is there any possible way of patching in ANY of these issues being worked on that are completed? Or at least giving us a legitimate eta instead of "soon". Perhaps at least open up fear/hate/solro temple/any kind of new content? lol.

I feel bad for Amelinda tbh. You guys are leaving her out to dry.. she always has to play damage control and try and put a positive spin to all of us that "yes, things are being worked on and fixed and changes are coming soon!" when nothing has been done in months.

I'm losing hope for this server everyday. I don't want to continue to log in finding little to no pvp and continuing to have to waste hours upon hours camping shit if the server is going to be dead in another month or two. Peak pop today on a saturday afternoon were barely over 100 (and there is still no global ooc despite terribly low population every night, coud we at least get that started for a test run?)ANY kind of change or new patch at this point would at least pump some kind of life however miniscule it may be, it would at least encourage people to log in and show that you guys are actively working on fixing all these annoying bugs such as proc exploiting (HUGE ISSUE), tweaking resists and lowering spell dmg so every pvp fight lasts longer than 10 seconds and is actually fun. I understand these are more of the main issues at hand, but still ANY kind of fix/patch would be greatly appreciated by all of us.

Please don't take this as me bitching at you guys about how you run the server - you guys obviously do a damn good job with it. I'm just asking that you please throw us a bone.. give us something heh. I know our pop isn't as large as blues and maybe you guys think it doesn't deserve as many resources, but if you guys show more interest in us and the server by at least communicating with us ffs, making fixes more frequently than once every two months, and start opening new content I think a LOT more people would be logging in every night and the server could flourish again.

Keep the troll comments to yourself, I would like to keep this thread clear of all stupid shit so maybe Rogean or any other dev actually may take the time to read it.

That is all. :)

Hughman
02-12-2012, 02:15 AM
^ Yes

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 02:23 AM
I'm so traumatized by this server I went back to blue and rolled a MAGE for shits sake.

I'm so sad by how red99 has turned out so far.....

Please staff come back and save this server PLEASE.....

We want to believe, just give us a reason.....

quickcheck
02-12-2012, 02:28 AM
i agree..

Pokeman
02-12-2012, 02:28 AM
maybe if the first two posters guilds can stop being manipulative assholes I would give a fuck about whatever it was you posted :o

Pokeman
02-12-2012, 02:30 AM
thanx 4 the share tho

Bkab
02-12-2012, 02:33 AM
Shrug, don't know what you're bitching at me about trying to be manipulative. All my posts about making any kind of fix/change has been for the benefit of the server, and not for my personal gain lol. Can go through and check if you'd like. Keep the trolls away tho 4real please, we troll each other enough in RnF everyday.. we can have 1 thread without that shit for once.

Pokeman
02-12-2012, 02:33 AM
thanx 4 the share tho

Cast
02-12-2012, 02:36 AM
red99 is like baltimore
rogean is like white people

poor baltimore.

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 02:40 AM
It's a good effort Bkab and much respect, a lot of us care and want to see this server do well.

We just need the staff support, we all (as a server) feel like no one important (sorry Amelinda) gives a fuck and they wont patch and fix the obvious enormous issues.

We know it's your guys hobby, we know we have no place to demand ANYTHING from you. But in all honesty if you're over this project hand it off (the source code) to someone who is interested in being involved to keep it alive.... PLEASE (I love classic EQ but we are hurting atm).

Cast
02-12-2012, 02:42 AM
amelinda is hurting this server with this constant useless bandaid she keeps trying to put on shit

listen do you not understand you're fucking with peoples lives and making them waste time in them by keeping up all these false promises for nilbog and rogean who dont give two fucks about this server?

if amelinda gave a fuck about anyone on this server she'd stop doing that right now.

Barkingturtle
02-12-2012, 02:46 AM
listen do you not understand you're fucking with peoples lives

Dudes, step away from the internet for a second.

This is why no one wants to play with you. You guys are just intolerably weird to most of us.

Pokeman
02-12-2012, 02:47 AM
It's a good effort Bkab and much respect, a lot of us care and want to see this server do well.

We just need the staff support, we all (as a server) feel like no one important (sorry Amelinda) gives a fuck and they wont patch and fix the obvious enormous issues.

We know it's your guys hobby, we know we have no place to demand ANYTHING from you. But in all honesty if you're over this project hand it off (the source code) to someone who is interested in being involved to keep it alive.... PLEASE (I love classic EQ but we are hurting atm).

idk if u dum or a troll but you should prolly back away from this thread

Cast
02-12-2012, 02:48 AM
amelinda is hurting this server with this constant useless bandaid she keeps trying to put on shit

listen do you not understand you're fucking with peoples lives and making them waste time in them by keeping up all these false promises for nilbog and rogean who dont give two fucks about this server?

if amelinda gave a fuck about anyone on this server she'd stop doing that right now.

this is a good point...

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 02:51 AM
amelinda is hurting this server with this constant useless bandaid she keeps trying to put on shit

listen do you not understand you're fucking with peoples lives and making them waste time in them by keeping up all these false promises for nilbog and rogean who dont give two fucks about this server?

if amelinda gave a fuck about anyone on this server she'd stop doing that right now.

C'mon dude don't call out the one person who even talks to us from staff.

Why don't all the fucking 50 DRU's maybe once in awhile go PL and help out some newbs instead of camping their 6th Rubi BP or PKT.

Problem is you got people going leaving the server (People who are pissed their guild isn't on top and mad they have no one to pvp since a lot of Nihilum doesn't log on except for dragons or their own guild is just too small to be significant) and the very few new people who do log in are forced to be DRUs/SHMs/NECs or quit.

Help your fucking buddy out, go hang out with that solo PAL in EC or BB. Roll an alt and level with some peeps, quit just stacking gear with no one to sell to.

Quit taking shit so serious and have some fun......


Help your fucking buddy out, hang out with a newb or interact with people outside of camping shit on an empty server.

Pokeman
02-12-2012, 02:52 AM
C'mon dude don't call out the one person who even talks to us from staff.

Why don't all the fucking 50 DRU's maybe once in awhile go PL and help out some newbs instead of camping their 6th Rubi BP or PKT.

Problem is you got people going out (People who are pissed their guild isn't on top and mad they have no one to pvp since a lot of Nihilum doesn't log on except for dragons or their own guild is just too small to be significant) and the very few new people who do log in are forced to be DRUs/SHMs/NECs or quit.

Help your fucking buddy out, go hang out with that solo PAL in EC or BB. Roll an alt and level with some peeps, quit just stacking gear with no one to sell to.

Quit taking shit so serious and have some fun......


Help your fucking buddy out, hang out with a newb

lol turns out u r dum

Steaks
02-12-2012, 02:56 AM
lols step away from the internet

troll # 2366322 rogean still dont care sry

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 02:56 AM
idk if u dum or a troll but you should prolly back away from this thread

Fuck you, if Rogean is sick of running these servers and wants to do other shit I can understand that.

But they refined this server off of EMU code some one else provided.

Why not give back to that same community and provide code so someone else can pick up the classic EQ project and improve the code and interact with the community like they used to.

Cast
02-12-2012, 02:58 AM
C'mon dude don't call out the one person who even talks to us from staff.

Why don't all the fucking 50 DRU's maybe once in awhile go PL and help out some newbs instead of camping their 6th Rubi BP or PKT.

Problem is you got people going leaving the server (People who are pissed their guild isn't on top and mad they have no one to pvp since a lot of Nihilum doesn't log on except for dragons or their own guild is just too small to be significant) and the very few new people who do log in are forced to be DRUs/SHMs/NECs or quit.

Help your fucking buddy out, go hang out with that solo PAL in EC or BB. Roll an alt and level with some peeps, quit just stacking gear with no one to sell to.

Quit taking shit so serious and have some fun......


Help your fucking buddy out, hang out with a newb or interact with people outside of camping shit on an empty server.



So the solution to the problem is that people who have spent weeks of /played leveling to 50 and getting themselves geared etc should seek out random fucking lowbies and power level them? lol.

you're either dumb or trolling, but im not getting into verbal fistacuffs with such a stupid proposition.

And for the reasons above you'll realize why Amelinda is actually hurting the players she so proudly tries to represent. Most people take like 15-18 days /played to hit 50 at this point, if she keeps advocating ppl to waste their time like this with devs who've already hit the road then she deserves to be thrown under the bus.

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 02:58 AM
lol turns out u r dum

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Pokeman
02-12-2012, 02:59 AM
Fuck you, if Rogean is sick of running these servers and wants to do other shit I can understand that.

But they refined this server off of EMU code some one else provided.

Why not give back to that same community and provide code so someone else can pick up the classic EQ project and improve the code and interact with the community like they used to.

thanx 4 the share

problem is alot bigger than an inc patch

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 03:03 AM
So the solution to the problem is that people who have spent weeks of /played leveling to 50 and getting themselves geared etc should seek out random fucking lowbies and power level them? lol.

you're either dumb or trolling, but im not getting into verbal fistacuffs with such a stupid proposition.

And for the reasons above you'll realize why Amelinda is actually hurting the players she so proudly tries to represent. Most people take like 15-18 days /played to hit 50 at this point, if she keeps advocating ppl to waste their time like this with devs who've already hit the road then she deserves to be thrown under the bus.

Not saying you have to PL them but at least interact with them in some way as alts or something relevant.

I have already leveled multiple toons to the mid 30s on this server and rerolled because the guilds I was with would all dissolve and the members would quit.

With my newest character I realized there is just no one to interact with period.

No one to pvp, no one to talk to, no one to group with. I play EQ because I like the old style MMOs require interaction and coordination from other people unlike the new "Do everything your self" style MMOs.

When there is no one to interact with, why the fuck would a new player play. I'm not saying people who have already been playing have an obligation to help or group with newbs.

But if you care about fresh blood on your server that's probably the best thing you can do to help them stay.

Cast
02-12-2012, 03:06 AM
Apparently you think its the responsbility of emperors like myself to go around having conversations with everyone on the server or something?

shit you act llike the same shi happened to you hasn't happened to holocaust... most of my original crew stopped playing back in early december bro so you wont get simpathy fromthe big guy

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/11/24/SHIP_wideweb__470x324,0.jpg

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 03:11 AM
It's not about me, it's about people on this server (majority who STILL play being high level) to interact with the mid-to-low level people in order to keep people from quitting the server.

It would be ideal for staff interaction/involvement to be the main catalyst for population retention, but since that isn't happening someone needs to step up.

Myself and Samwise have tried starting a newbie friendly guild for people new to the server, but we can't be on all the time.

I have personally seen people join the server have a blast until the late teens until the population runs dry, then have no one to interact with (friend or foe) and quit.

Cast
02-12-2012, 03:12 AM
so you want people whove spent from 15 to 43+ FULL DAYS /played to spend even more grooming a bunch of lvl 10-30 players who will end up quitting anyways, aka MORE TIME for what? devs gave up bro this thing is done

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 03:21 AM
so you want people whove spent from 15 to 43+ FULL DAYS /played to spend even more grooming a bunch of lvl 10-30 players who will end up quitting anyways, aka MORE TIME for what? devs gave up bro this thing is done

I was putting out ideas to save the "current" server, I'm not blaming high level players.

I'm talking about picking up the slack for lack of staff involvement "if" you wanted the server to survive.

I also said "if" the staff doesn't feel like being involved any more since it was just a hobby they could give back by providing the source code they have refined.

I really hope one of these three things happen:

1. Server staff gets much more involved and population bounces back (unlikely)

2. Dedicated players get involved and population bounces back (highly unlikely)

3. Staff admit they aren't as enthusiastic as before, take credit for HUGE contributions to the "Classic EQ EMU code" and provide source code for someone who does want to be involved with the community to do so. (extremely unlikely)

These are sad times (unless your RMT'ing on P99 blue)........

Cast
02-12-2012, 03:23 AM
Stealin don't feed the animals. You know better :D

They're just in a panic their server population is fading into nothingness. They want to stir up any drama, any posts, anything at all that can get people thinking about red as opposed to blue. It used to be 2:1 blue to red population when red launched. Then it went down to 3:1 in a hurry.
Nowadays Im not surprised to see 5:1 population most nights.

EQ was not designed as a PvP game. Most of the PvP is fucked and pretty unbalanced. Thats the reason why there were only a couple of PvP servers when there were 30+ other servers running on live. The EQ community, even back then, acknowledged EQ is not a good PvP game by simple supply/demand of PvP servers.

The problem with these red fanatics is they played EQ during their teens (mostly) and have nostalgic memories of playing EQ PvP. Its amazing what nostalgia will sometimes do to people.

In a couple months there will be 50 or 60 people average (if that) and that is about where I suspect the sever population will stabilize around. If you look at other emu servers a population of 50 or 60 is sustainable.. just not much fun for the participants.

kluya
02-12-2012, 03:28 AM
Cast you've only posted stuff like burn it down, sever is done, ect.. about 20 different times today! It seems at this pont you are just bitter and want nothing more than to drive away any potential new players by making them think things are alot worse than they actually are. If you hate it so much why don't you just not play it, or at least not post so much negative shit. Everyone understands how you feel about it.

Cast
02-12-2012, 03:30 AM
Cast you've only posted stuff like burn it down, sever is done, ect.. about 20 different times today! It seems at this pont you are just bitter and want nothing more than to drive away any potential new players by making them think things are alot worse than they actually are. If you hate it so much why don't you just not play it, or at least not post so much negative shit. Everyone understands how you feel about it.

youre right things are great, sub100 pop, GMs who are more busy playing star wars time then able to write a post on their own forums in two weeks time, and a mexican burrito eating idiot has taken over my forums

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 03:30 AM
I never played EQ PvP back on live.

But playing on this server has shown me how much more dynamic PvP can make stale old boring ass EQ (still the best MMO i have ever played).

I hate to see it go to waste because it had the unfortunate timing of being released simultaneously when the P99 developers also got burned out after years of providing content for ungrateful whiny P99 raiders who constantly used MQ and SEQ while also RMT'ing shit instead of letting smaller guilds get a shot at mobs.

This classic EQ EMU community as a whole is shit, it really makes me disappointed. This is the most interactive dealing with people-iest (if that makes sense) MMO ever.

All the new gay MMO's are do everything yourself and I can't stand them. Is there no way we can come together and not exploit, not be selfish, and not make this server/community suck ass?

kluya
02-12-2012, 03:32 AM
I didn't say things are great, but for being free and all I'm having a pretty good time in my first eq pvp experience. I just say we all chill out and let this thing develop.

Cast
02-12-2012, 03:34 AM
bro most of us come from vztz, weve seen what is going on happen time and time again from useless devs

rogean is the worst offender ive ever seen at it though, i wish we could have voidd and puma back - atleast voidd let people develop instead of going on 3 month vacation playing star wars time after releasing

fiegi
02-12-2012, 03:39 AM
yes to voidd

no to puma

problem with rogean was everyone set the bar so high like he was gonna run the greatest server ever, turns out the pvp hasn't even been nearly as good as any vztz box. Nothing but a cock tease so far.

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 03:40 AM
I will also say, the only 2 people I have seen help and contribute the way I think is important to the server so far is Dekadenz (even though I think their huge guild is bad for the server in general), Samwise (he actively ports newbs around for groups, plays alts for fun, and hunts newbs out and connects them with others through our guild).

A couple others give out some gear and stuff but they don't interact with others the way that is needed for the server to survive.

IMO: Make Samwise and Dekadenz guides, ban all assholes who exploit.

Cast
02-12-2012, 03:40 AM
run* the server

*aka do nothing but release a shitty coded box, worse than any vztz coded box and then disappear into star wars time

http://i42.tinypic.com/zmxpud.png

Harrison
02-12-2012, 03:46 AM
rofl VZTZ was laughably terrible in every way possible

To even begin to compare this server to that buggy piece of shit is hilarious. You whiny-ass pussy VZTZjects dug your own graves by exploiting, corpse camping, and being overall degenerates in every way possible and are now crying about it.

The server itself is fine. The portion of the community comprised of psychotic children like you are the problem, solely. Permaban little faggots like you in-game for what you do here and one massive problem is solved.

Your posts do just as much damage to this server as not punishing cheaters does.

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 03:48 AM
rofl VZTZ was laughably terrible in every way possible

To even begin to compare this server to that buggy piece of shit is hilarious. You whiny-ass pussy VZTZjects dug your own graves by exploiting, corpse camping, and being overall degenerates in every way possible and are now crying about it.

The server itself is fine. The portion of the community comprised of psychotic children like you are the problem, solely. Permaban little faggots like you in-game for what you do here and one massive problem is solved.

Your posts do just as much damage to this server as not punishing cheaters does.

You're not accurate at all, I have never seen you in-game and am pretty sure you do not play at all.

Please leave the forum of a server you do not play nor have any time invested in.

Bkab
02-12-2012, 04:06 AM
This message is hidden because Harrison is fat as fuck.

Don't reply to Harrison bluecross, he's just terrible troll.

Cast
02-12-2012, 04:23 AM
This message is hidden because Harrison is fat as fuck.

Don't reply to Harrison bluecross, he's just terrible troll.

FAT MOSDEF

Haul
02-12-2012, 04:38 AM
When are we going to see the next patch or any kind of changes period? I understand you guys are extremely busy and do this for free, you don't have to keep rehashing this point to me as I've said in numerous posts how much I appreciate what you guys do.. But for reals, is there any possible way of patching in ANY of these issues being worked on that are completed? Or at least giving us a legitimate eta instead of "soon". Perhaps at least open up fear/hate/solro temple/any kind of new content? lol.

I feel bad for Amelinda tbh. You guys are leaving her out to dry.. she always has to play damage control and try and put a positive spin to all of us that "yes, things are being worked on and fixed and changes are coming soon!" when nothing has been done in months.

I'm losing hope for this server everyday. I don't want to continue to log in finding little to no pvp and continuing to have to waste hours upon hours camping shit if the server is going to be dead in another month or two. Peak pop today on a saturday afternoon were barely over 100 (and there is still no global ooc despite terribly low population every night, coud we at least get that started for a test run?)ANY kind of change or new patch at this point would at least pump some kind of life however miniscule it may be, it would at least encourage people to log in and show that you guys are actively working on fixing all these annoying bugs such as proc exploiting (HUGE ISSUE), tweaking resists and lowering spell dmg so every pvp fight lasts longer than 10 seconds and is actually fun. I understand these are more of the main issues at hand, but still ANY kind of fix/patch would be greatly appreciated by all of us.

Please don't take this as me bitching at you guys about how you run the server - you guys obviously do a damn good job with it. I'm just asking that you please throw us a bone.. give us something heh. I know our pop isn't as large as blues and maybe you guys think it doesn't deserve as many resources, but if you guys show more interest in us and the server by at least communicating with us ffs, making fixes more frequently than once every two months, and start opening new content I think a LOT more people would be logging in every night and the server could flourish again.

Keep the troll comments to yourself, I would like to keep this thread clear of all stupid shit so maybe Rogean or any other dev actually may take the time to read it.

That is all. :)

Wow don't care, and way to sound more homo

Haul
02-12-2012, 04:40 AM
rofl VZTZ was laughably terrible in every way possible

To even begin to compare this server to that buggy piece of shit is hilarious. You whiny-ass pussy VZTZjects dug your own graves by exploiting, corpse camping, and being overall degenerates in every way possible and are now crying about it.

The server itself is fine. The portion of the community comprised of psychotic children like you are the problem, solely. Permaban little faggots like you in-game for what you do here and one massive problem is solved.

Your posts do just as much damage to this server as not punishing cheaters does.

Good post.

Cast
02-12-2012, 04:41 AM
sub100 no GM devving the server BURN IT DOWN NO TIME TO EVEN WIPE IT CLEAN

Bkab
02-12-2012, 04:46 AM
natural mad about the 5+xp deaths i made him eat today (+ being an actual wheelchair bound mongoloid irl)<--not trolling

Cast
02-12-2012, 04:47 AM
(+ being an actual wheelchair bound mongoloid irl)<--not trolling

confirmed by multiple sources

cnn, nbc, foxnews, onion

Zigfreed
02-12-2012, 05:14 AM
I agree, please please patch the server. There are lots of important things that need changing all ready to go.

Please.

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 06:11 AM
http://juantadeo.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/a-long-time-ago-in-a-galaxy-far-far-away.jpg

http://techstyles.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Family-Guy-Star-Wars-Peter-fighting.jpg

Amuk
02-12-2012, 06:23 AM
Nice to see this got shitted up so fast - just IP ban the 5 or so mega trolls already?

Cast
02-12-2012, 06:25 AM
Nice to see this got shitted up so fast - just IP ban the 5 or so mega trolls already?

rogean
nilbog
secrets
supreme
harrison

Tanx
02-12-2012, 07:01 AM
C'mon dude don't call out the one person who even talks to us from staff.

Why don't all the fucking 50 DRU's maybe once in awhile go PL and help out some newbs instead of camping their 6th Rubi BP or PKT.

Problem is you got people going leaving the server (People who are pissed their guild isn't on top and mad they have no one to pvp since a lot of Nihilum doesn't log on except for dragons or their own guild is just too small to be significant) and the very few new people who do log in are forced to be DRUs/SHMs/NECs or quit.

Help your fucking buddy out, go hang out with that solo PAL in EC or BB. Roll an alt and level with some peeps, quit just stacking gear with no one to sell to.

Quit taking shit so serious and have some fun......

Help your fucking buddy out, hang out with a newb or interact with people outside of camping shit on an empty server.

Snufz
02-12-2012, 01:05 PM
LOL @ caring about this server.

Our dream of classic pvp was shot down months ago fella's.

It's OVER.

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 01:08 PM
LOL @ caring about this server.

Our dream of classic pvp was shot down months ago fella's.

It's OVER.

Maybe yours is.

http://chipsifraternity.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/martin-luther-king.jpg

Grozmok
02-12-2012, 01:21 PM
PvP TEARS

NOM NOM NOM

Vile
02-12-2012, 01:23 PM
the answer is vile for dev/gm what what fix shit yo

Vile
02-12-2012, 01:24 PM
or give me anti-hax.dll and Crucify NEXT will be launched ASAP.

Steaks
02-12-2012, 01:34 PM
lol what started with good intentions was shitted up , just like you knew it would

btw it cant be saved as of yet we are too far past it

however i am for a clean wipe and a reroll with better xp , sol ro , and planes in at launch

Harrison
02-12-2012, 01:39 PM
You'd still be banned for cheating even with extra experience. Game is too hard for you.

Jirr
02-12-2012, 02:08 PM
or give me anti-hax.dll and Crucify NEXT will be launched ASAP.

I can't help but think that the anti-hax.dll would somehow find its way to Kringe and make Crucify rather dull for the rest of us.

nilbog
02-12-2012, 02:42 PM
When are we going to see the next patch or any kind of changes period?

This is really a Rogean specific question. He does server administration, management, ensures hardware is up and running, patches, and source development when he can. We have different jobs. I lead content development, management, bug fixes, and train new developers. Null is a pvp-specific developer and does pvp source work when he can.

But for reals, is there any possible way of patching in ANY of these issues being worked on that are completed? Or at least giving us a legitimate eta instead of "soon". Perhaps at least open up fear/hate/solro temple/any kind of new content? lol. All of the pending fixes require a full patch. This requires taking the server down and doing horrible work for I would guess around 30 minutes to an hour, depending on what all needs to be done. If Rogean is too busy to do it, I can totally see why. He's the only one who can give you a concise eta.

As far as new content, fearplane is the next slated zone to open.

I feel bad for Amelinda tbh. You guys are leaving her out to dry.. she always has to play damage control and try and put a positive spin to all of us that "yes, things are being worked on and fixed and changes are coming soon!" when nothing has been done in months. You know.. I usually fix at least one thing every day. It really fucking blows when someone says you haven't done anything for months. Btw, I talk to Amelinda every day.

I'm losing hope for this server everyday. I don't want to continue to log in finding little to no pvp and continuing to have to waste hours upon hours camping shit if the server is going to be dead in another month or two. Nothing really I can say to this other than, I don't want the server to die either. Why would I? Essentially it's an exact copy of p99, with pvp enabled and oldschool loot dropping. There could be a hell of a lot more people playing for a lot of reasons. With everything that has been repaired, fabricated, and implemented since pve opened in 2009, the pvp server is like 9000x more complete and stable.

ANY kind of fix/patch would be greatly appreciated by all of us.It would be nice for me as well. As a content developer, I'd like for there to be patch every time a change is made. If there's a broken quest or unhotfixable issue, it amplifies time spent on reimbursements, etc etc.

I know our pop isn't as large as blues and maybe you guys think it doesn't deserve as many resources, The servers are almost identical. This should be apparent, but I will say it anyway. The pvp server has received more attention since release than the pve server. I know I spent more time this week working on pvp issues than pve..


but if you guys show more interest in us and the server by at least communicating with us ffs,
Uh... we do communicate with you. And to this comment, I lose the will to type much more because I feel like I was trolled into responding. As a community, the pvp population had way more input into initial server launch and features than the pve server ever has.

making fixes more frequently than once every two monthsOnce again, when you see something that says fixed, pending update, it means it is fixed. Needs a patch to be fully implemented.

Diagnosis: You want a server patch.
Treatment: Do a Rogean patch dance.

Truth
02-12-2012, 02:59 PM
Diagnosis: You want a server patch.
Treatment: Do a Rogean patch dance.

make sure to use lots of peyote in the ceremony

inimegalg
02-12-2012, 03:08 PM
Community needs to come to grips with the fact that this is NOT live, and that the developer's and people behind this project do this for free, and is a hobby of theirs.

Just because OUR time, as players time invested into this hobby outpaces them, doesn't mean they're not doing their job. As an analogy I'll use World of Warcraft, they'll come out with a big PVE raid content patch, and within 2 weeks the best guilds will destroy the content and be begging for more-- so did the developers fail because they couldn't keep the hardcorest of the hardcore busy?

Same idea here.. and this only applies to content patches. Bug fixes, small patches, etc are a totally different story but the day that you clicked "Play" on this server you should have reminded yourself that this is a hobby project and not something that deducts $14.99 from your bank account each month.

If we were paying customers I could understand. If you're not happy with the state of the server, then simply stop playing, as some people have.. and know that you have a toon to come back to IF and WHEN devs do fix the issues at hand here.

Spamming the forums with "BURN IT DOWN" and "WIPE IT CLEAN" will get this community nowhere, and I'm sure doesn't do much to appetize developer attention.

Be patient. P1999 BLUE has over 600 players primetime, and overall is a success-- give it time people.

Ssleeve
02-12-2012, 03:09 PM
Thanks for feedback Nilbog, I feel like 100x times better staying and trying to help the community here now.

I feel like some people just got frustrated and started trolling way too much and way too hard and it kind of got us all caught up for a bit.

Supreme
02-12-2012, 03:19 PM
Hard to take someone serious that actually is part of the biggest whining, training, exploiting guild on the server....

Perhaps if you was a positive contributions your "cry for help fight Nihilum" post would actually be taken seriously.

But since all you can do now is attack another man's RL family you have no credibility and considered a worthless flaking piece of shit.

Lazortag
02-12-2012, 03:36 PM
My biggest concern is with the fact that (supposedly) over 200 people between blue and red have been flagged as using cheats but haven't been banned yet. I'm guessing the ban waves for cheats don't happen until Rogean is ready to patch the server, which means these people have been cheating with impunity for a while. Obviously I can tolerate this because at least we have some kind of cheat detection and there's way more justice for cheaters than there ever was on Live, but it's still annoying and unfair for the people playing legitimately.

Don't take this the wrong way though, I think nilbog et al. are the greatest and I will always have fun with this server. I have no illusions about the amount of work that gets put into it, and I can live with never having a patch because it'll always be better than vztz, amirite? ;)

Amelinda
02-12-2012, 03:57 PM
You know.. I usually fix at least one thing every day. It really fucking blows when someone says you haven't done anything for months. Btw, I talk to Amelinda every day.

Diagnosis: You want a server patch.
Treatment: Do a Rogean patch dance.

Confirmed. Nilbog does talk to me every day. I do not feel left out to dry or thrown under the bus.

I definitely understand your frustrations but some of you have obviously never heard the phrase "you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar"

Truth
02-12-2012, 04:17 PM
and "dont shit where you eat , especially when the meals free"

Diggles
02-12-2012, 04:19 PM
Confirmed. Nilbog does talk to me every day. I do not feel left out to dry or thrown under the bus.

I definitely understand your frustrations but some of you have obviously never heard the phrase "you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar"

would literally just use a fly trap

Srs Not Ames
02-12-2012, 04:30 PM
This is really a Rogean specific question. He does server administration, management, ensures hardware is up and running, patches, and source development when he can. We have different jobs. I lead content development, management, bug fixes, and train new developers. Null is a pvp-specific developer and does pvp source work when he can.

All of the pending fixes require a full patch. This requires taking the server down and doing horrible work for I would guess around 30 minutes to an hour, depending on what all needs to be done. If Rogean is too busy to do it, I can totally see why. He's the only one who can give you a concise eta.

As far as new content, fearplane is the next slated zone to open.

You know.. I usually fix at least one thing every day. It really fucking blows when someone says you haven't done anything for months. Btw, I talk to Amelinda every day.

Nothing really I can say to this other than, I don't want the server to die either. Why would I? Essentially it's an exact copy of p99, with pvp enabled and oldschool loot dropping. There could be a hell of a lot more people playing for a lot of reasons. With everything that has been repaired, fabricated, and implemented since pve opened in 2009, the pvp server is like 9000x more complete and stable.

It would be nice for me as well. As a content developer, I'd like for there to be patch every time a change is made. If there's a broken quest or unhotfixable issue, it amplifies time spent on reimbursements, etc etc.

The servers are almost identical. This should be apparent, but I will say it anyway. The pvp server has received more attention since release than the pve server. I know I spent more time this week working on pvp issues than pve..


Uh... we do communicate with you. And to this comment, I lose the will to type much more because I feel like I was trolled into responding. As a community, the pvp population had way more input into initial server launch and features than the pve server ever has.

Once again, when you see something that says fixed, pending update, it means it is fixed. Needs a patch to be fully implemented.

Diagnosis: You want a server patch.
Treatment: Do a Rogean patch dance.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Nirgon
02-12-2012, 06:26 PM
My personal issue was what was handed down on an immediate basis versus what was ongoing for very long time and not handled in over a month.

Consider my skeptical on the non-bias from that.

Harrison
02-12-2012, 07:06 PM
My personal issue was what was handed down on an immediate basis versus what was ongoing for very long time and not handled in over a month.

Consider my skeptical on the non-bias from that.

This little pussy has the balls to whine about being caught cheating.

He has a job and has been sick but got right in to guild disband us immediately.

Get fucked lol.

Bkab
02-12-2012, 07:21 PM
Thanks for the reply Nilbog. I admit I was bitter when I made that post as I hadn't heard anything from any of you guys in a very long time. i'm not denying you communicate with amelinda or don't make a fix everyday I shouldn't have used that word, my bad. I was more talking about not hearing from you null or rogean in a good long while, which in turn just makes everyone start acting like a retard and making 500 server dead threads. i have seen a lot of "fixed pending update" posts, and didn't quite understand what had to be done in order to do a patch like that, my mistake and I apologize.

Posts like that really help players out to know the processes you guys have to go through in order to put in a patch like that.. I'm sorry you feel I trolled you into responding, that was definitely not the case. I just wanted a legitimate answer from a dev that the server is going on in a good direction and could explain it better, that's all.

Anyways, thanks again Nilbog for the response and all WONDERFUL THINGS THAT YOU DO <3.

fiegi
02-12-2012, 07:22 PM
(Appreciate the server, and am the first one to be buffing low lvls leveling with clr buffs)

But i'll paint the other picture since nobody else will.

Lets see here....

no patch in at least 1.5 months

well call that 45 days

60 minutes or so to do a patch over a 45 day period.....

Doesn't seem that time consuming since 150+ people would benefit.

One could construed this as Rogean not giving a shit, but hey what do I know.... let's just hope he's actually extremely busy and does care

Woosa
02-13-2012, 11:47 AM
Devs are a myth on red xD

Nirgon
02-13-2012, 11:58 AM
This little pussy has the balls to whine about being caught cheating.

Never been suspended or done anything wrong bud.

Sorry. Try to at least remember what you read on the forums when it's all you know.

Also, you mad.

Aenor
02-13-2012, 12:04 PM
You're fucking with peoples lives...

LOL... This is MY LIFE you're FUCKING WITH... MY LIFFFFFEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slave
02-13-2012, 12:32 PM
My personal issue was what was handed down on an immediate basis versus what was ongoing for very long time and not handled in over a month.

Consider my skeptical on the non-bias from that.

One month, oh noes. I'm over three months on a petition now and it still has not been answered in any way, despite recent bumping.

Nirgon
02-13-2012, 12:41 PM
Think we got something a little more pressing but to each their own. Join me in my questioning of things that are handled immediately vs never.

Hard to buy the too busy to do things bit given my experience.

Steaks2
02-13-2012, 12:57 PM
Hard to take someone serious that actually is part of the biggest whining, training, exploiting guild on the server....

Perhaps if you was a positive contributions your "cry for help fight Nihilum" post would actually be taken seriously.

But since all you can do now is attack another man's RL family you have no credibility and considered a worthless flaking piece of shit.

were talking about fish bait right?

Nirgon
02-13-2012, 01:03 PM
Things I've heard before:

"We don't care if there's spies in our guild"
"We'll recruit anyone"
"Cry more" (in regards to exploiting)

RIP these guilds before them

Gert Groinwounder
02-13-2012, 01:25 PM
These forums would be a lot better off if anybody that put the letters "VZTZ" in a post was permabanned. Who gives a rusty crap about VZTZ. This is P99 red and it's their vision of what it should be...