EQMAC server is being shut down

[Lron]

They announced that they are closing the server. We have an active population of around 200 or so people with no where to go. One of the devs might want to make a post on www.eqmac.com to try to galvanize the player base over there. It is not affiliated with SOE at all but is the only website we have and use on that server.

It would also be helpful to know if P99 is able to be ran on a mac and if so, a detailed step by step instruction sticky would be amazing and encourage us to come over.

I am the best player on the server and will be on P99 if i choose to play here. I just need to know if i can somehow get this to run on my mac.

[Tippett]

This server is fantastic and runnable with a Mac, although I don't know exactly how.

Since your already a part of the community go back and tell the rest for us!

[SyanideGas]

Fabulous idea! if we can make the pop bigger that would be heaven. I can always pl some newbs and whatnot as high as i can for starts. :P

[Lazortag]

They announced that they are closing the server. We have an active population of around 200 or so people with no where to go. One of the devs might want to make a post on www.eqmac.com to try to galvanize the player base over there. It is not affiliated with SOE at all but is the only website we have and use on that server.

It would also be helpful to know if P99 is able to be ran on a mac and if so, a detailed step by step instruction sticky would be amazing and encourage us to come over.

I am the best player on the server and will be on P99 if i choose to play here. I just need to know if i can somehow get this to run on my mac.

This thread should help you: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56238

I hope you guys can convince more Eqmac players to switch over, it would be great for us and also for you guys since it would mean you'd all get to play together again

[MelxDruid]

This is a sad day for the Al'kabor server. Just looking at the eqmac forums, all players are coming out of the woodwork, very upset at the shut down happening March 29th. So much hard work put into characters and everythings just being erased.

Potime has not even been accessed yet. The gm may 'unlock' zones, leading to a possible server wide quarm kill?! Who knows.

[Lazortag]

The board owner is a retard.



He doesn't want a community anymore, I suppose. Fuck him.

My impression is that he communicates with Sony and so I imagine he's still clinging to the idea that they might change their mind. Because of this I doubt he'd allow people to freely talk about p99 on his forums. I'm sure he wouldn't care if you talked about p99 AFTER eqmac was shut down though :p

[Rottening]

The board owner is a retard.



He doesn't want a community anymore, I suppose. Fuck him.

You do realize that board is where SOE (until today's announcement) communicates with them, right? They troll those boards daily. Talk of switching to what they consider an illegal server doesn't bode well for them trying to save the server.

[Lron]

Yeah, the idea that SOE didn't expect us to be pissed or that we can somehow protest and change their mind is ludicrous but so are lots of player on al kabor.

Its a simple business decision and they have a long history of doing shit like this. Its going to shut down.....

[Lron]

LOL you guys are cracking me up, making names like project1999 and saying you dont care if you get banned. Bravo friends.

[MelxDruid]

Yeah, lol @ the chaos unleashed upon the eqmac board.

[Lazortag]

I'm convinced he's just a retard. He still hasn't answered my PM.

If you assume that he's deleting p99-related posts to have a better influence on Sony, then you could assume that he's not responding to your PM for the same reason. That's probably a safer assumption than thinking he's a retard based on one interaction with him.

[Diggles]

Where was this outrage when they shut down SWG?

Honestly, that should have been a warning that they're not afraid to do this.

[Diggles]

wat

did you not read all of my post?

[Nikolai]

The board owner is a retard.

He doesn't want a community anymore, I suppose. Fuck him.

I am the owner/moderator of the eqmac.com forums and I am glad someone has provided a clarification of my intelligence level, based on the fact that I did not respond instantly to a PM.

To provide some background of both the server and of the workings of the eqmac.com boards:

We/I are/am completely independent of SOE and Everquest. I have no personal contact with anyone at SOE, and I actually haven't played EQ of any form since 2007. I provide the forums as a service to the EQMac community, out of a respect for the people who play, and to support a game I once spent a great deal of my life playing.

I was not the originator of the eqmac.com forums, but took them over in 2006 and have run them ever since. The forums were created to provide a place for the EQMac community to interact. Since we were actually unable to use the SOE forums for several years after our game was released, eqmac.com became the default "official" communication channel.

As such, we had an unspoken agreement with SOE. We would do our utmost to maintain the same standards as they would in their own fora. In return, we would be allowed to use the "Everquest" name, trademark logos etc. and, more importantly, we would have an occasional official communication from various guides, GMs and developers.

For nearly ten years we have had this arrangement, and it has served the community well.

Yes, I know the server is being closed down...Yes, I know I could do whatever I pleased in terms of posting links, software and the like there, with the worst case being a slap in the hand from SOE.

I will not do that. Out of respect for both the EQMac community and yes, even SOE, I will continue to maintain the same standards we have had for many years. This includes removal and possible banning of people who violate eqmac.com's rules.

I am glad that you in the Project 1999 community will welcome us Mac players, should we decide to join you. As a former software engineer, I also respect the scale of the project you are undertaking.

However, I ask that you respect the rules and nature of the eqmac.com forums. Feel free to join us and offer condolences or even taunt us, if you desire. But please, keep mention of your project off of our semi-official forums.

Nikolai, eqmac.com owner and moderator

[Diggles]

Why you hold loyalty to people who are literally screwing you in the ass after 10 years of service is beyond me.

[Diggles]

You shouldn't be worshipping them for giving you the short end of the stick for 10 years.

[Nikolai]

Why you hold loyalty to people who are literally screwing you in the ass after 10 years of service is beyond me.

Good question. Let me answer it this way:

I hold no "loyalty" to SOE at all, and am sad as well as a bit pissed off at the handling of our "situation". However, I do consider myself an honorable person. I made a promise, which I intend to keep. As far as I know, SOE has not revoked our right to use their copyrighted material, and our developer continues to communicate with us there.

In kind, I will maintain the same community we have had for as long as I can.

[Autotune]

Good question. Let me answer it this way:

I hold no "loyalty" to SOE at all, and am sad as well as a bit pissed off at the handling of our "situation". However, I do consider myself an honorable person. I made a promise, which I intend to keep. As far as I know, SOE has not revoked our right to use their copyrighted material, and our developer continues to communicate with us there.

In kind, I will maintain the same community we have had for as long as I can.

I can say, nothing wrong with that imo. However, I already posted and mentioned Project 1999 over there. I wasn't trying to scavenge a dying ship, more as a means of encouragement to fight for what you guys had, and if all fails, a place to move over to afterwards.

GL with EQmac and hopefully they will change their minds. I for one will not hold my breath

Stealin out.

[Dravingar]

This makes me sad, I never bought a mac/played on EQmac but I liked to always know it was there in case I got sick of the shit on P99.

Make sure to burn it to the ground before you go out.

[Rogean]

Why on world would they shut the server down after Hobart has spent the better part of a year working on an intel client? Doesn't make sense to me.

[Reikerx]

Doesn't make sense to me.

C'mon bro you know SoE better than that.

[Rogean]

Since Nikolai is now an active member of these forums, and this thread is in Server Chat, bashing/flaming him will not be tolerated, and I will be removing the posts that have. You may keep a civil discussion of your opinions of the various situations, but do not get offtopic and insult him or anyone else.

Go make a thread in R&F if you so desire.

[Rogean]

Additionally, for the time being, the administrator(s) of the eqmac.com website/forums have requested that P99 not be mentioned or posted about. I expect everyone to honor this request, as would be the case for any other website.

[baub]

red rover red rover send zamiel and cabot on over !:O

[Autotune]

Additionally, for the time being, the administrator(s) of the eqmac.com website/forums have requested that P99 not be mentioned or posted about. I expect everyone to honor this request, as would be the case for any other website.

In a way, I can see how he wants to uphold his silent agreement with SoE to maintain his honor. However, I also think he should uphold commitment and honor of keeping his community together. A sense of duty to his fellow community should come first over his sense of honor to someone who just slapped him and his community in the face.

That's just how I see it imo. All sense of upholding the agreement (silent or not) should have gone out the window when SoE stopped caring about your community. As far as I can tell, SoE has given the EQmac community no opportunity to plead their case to allow their community to continue on their live servers as they have been in the past. It was simply a "this is how it's going to be, take it or leave it. In the end, we've made our final decision".

I wish them luck, I hate to see their community fade/vanish and break up because of a silly sense of honor bound to someone who cares not if they do or don't.

TL;DR Bros before hoes.

[Thulack]

People do realize that one day the Eq servers will go down too right? I can't see how people can throw a fit about this. Everything comes to a end eventually that even includes games/characters that you have been paying to play because you don't actually own the character and all the character is good for it playing in a game. I know plenty of People on live that won't come and play here for the fact that its not a legit server and they would be worried about toons getting wiped or server shutting down. It's all in how people take it. I know one day EQlive will shutdown. Will i be upset sure because i spent 12+ years playing the game but everything comes to a end eventually.

[Nuggie]

I am the owner/moderator of the eqmac.com forums and I am glad someone has provided a clarification of my intelligence level, based on the fact that I did not respond instantly to a PM.

Nikolai, eqmac.com owner and moderator

I see you met our trolls. Please don't feed them. :D

[gnatte]

Screw SOE I jumped that sinking ship over a year ago, f@#k them they don't care about eqmac or the players.

[Humerox]

I'm sure some of them will find their way to us.

;)

[Zapatos]

I played a bit on eqmac and it's an absolutely amazing community.. Really good people over there. What's happening is tragic, but if they can't undo sony's decision, then at least I hope we can see their server come together for one last hoorah and beat the only remaining classic version of PoP in the time they have left. (which is like the real end of EQ's expansions, imo!)

[LizardNecro]

I'm suprised that SOE doesn't transfer the eqmac characters to a live server.

[Secrets]

Good question. Let me answer it this way:

I hold no "loyalty" to SOE at all, and am sad as well as a bit pissed off at the handling of our "situation". However, I do consider myself an honorable person. I made a promise, which I intend to keep. As far as I know, SOE has not revoked our right to use their copyrighted material, and our developer continues to communicate with us there.

In kind, I will maintain the same community we have had for as long as I can.

This man deserves a medal. I think it's great you ran it for all these years and it's a damn shame that they are going to shut it down. If you guys want, please post on the EQMac forums in support of not shutting it down. I wholeheartedly believe Hobart could pull through and reverse the shutdown decision.

But, please, do NOT post about EQEmulator and/or Project 1999 on their forums. That's a jerk move, imo, and if I see people on eqemulator.org posting on the eqmac forums advertising, I will give you a warning on our forums not to do it.

[Lron]

LOL Smedley makes a public announcement on the closing of our server.

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=182907

[MelxDruid]

Looks like there is no changing his mind, it's really going down.

[mwatt]

And so, P99 is truly the last bastion of classic EQ. May God protect it and all that run it.

[Secrets]

LOL Smedley makes a public announcement on the closing of our server.

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=182907

It's a shame he doesn't want to preserve the database. I don't care about the source code, just the database and quest source files. If we had those, P1999 would be near-perfect. Then again, I don't know much about the SOE serverside elements, so, yeah.

[Szeth]

Secrets, if you were able to get that, could you datamine quests that were never completed/solved?

If so that database is valuable as fuck, eh?

[Secrets]

Secrets, if you were able to get that, could you datamine quests that were never completed/solved?

If so that database is valuable as fuck, eh?

I would specifically ask for them to remain hidden/removed, as they detract from classic. They're in the current EQLive database and having that leak out would be something I don't want anyone SOE or otherwise to suffer.

[Estrang]

where have you been my sweet love

stop playing so hard to get and post more images of your oh so delicate body

[Szeth]

While I understand some of the mystery still remains... Don't you want to know what some things were for?

I mostly want to know if there was some crazy involved quest with Kurocust (spelled that wrong - dude from chardok) and all the notes the traitors etc have. Seems like there were some very involved quests that never saw the light of day.

Also what if they reward fats like we've never seen before. BE OUR PROPHET SECRETS. Also, oblige Estrang if you would he is getting a bit antsy.

[Gwence]

Additionally, for the time being, the administrator(s) of the eqmac.com website/forums have requested that P99 not be mentioned or posted about. I expect everyone to honor this request, as would be the case for any other website.

you forgot to write "OR ELSE....."



it's ok, still made me laugh