PoHate zone out?

[Xadion]

Was randomly reading through the early patch notes looking for something else...and found..


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February 17, 2000 7:00 am
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***Announcements***



"- A teleporter has been placed within the Plane of Hate in order to
give non-casters a way out of the zone besides death, potion, or group
teleport."

http://www.waringmcmarrin.com/?page_id=50

/shrug

I dont remeber there being a hate zone out- anyone else? prolly click on something random for zone out :-P

Anywho dunno if this was posted or not or anyone that had more exp wondering PoH can shed some light on this...or hell maybe this exists and I am just an ignorantmoose (most likely)

[Szeth]

If you click on the brown square "thing" in Inny's room you get the "you are too far away to click on this" message.

Unless that is something else and I'm nub that could be it.

[Xadion]

Ehh i just thought that was a GM door to the rest of 2nd floor... i like how the devs where like "Finish PoHate? nah just stick inny in this room here and put a wall up, we will finish it sometime around velious!"

but that may have been it? I dont know- on classic I was in dumb guilds that always raided hate on the edges of the walls and we never really ventured around.

[nilbog]

February 17, 2000 7:00 am
——————————

***Announcements***



"- A teleporter has been placed within the Plane of Hate in order to
give non-casters a way out of the zone besides death, potion, or group
teleport."

http://www.waringmcmarrin.com/?page_id=50



If there is a zone out, I never used it or knew it was there. Apparently there should be though. Anyone know?

If you click on the brown square "thing" in Inny's room you get the "you are too far away to click on this" message.

Unless that is something else and I'm nub that could be it.

Haha yeah. The rest of that level shouldn't be available yet and the crate texture was the first thing I came across with collision. Looks awful I know :T

[Arteker]

there was a zone out same than fear had one inside the temple.i remember it droping you in nektulos.

[Nirgon]

Yeah help me out here in my search Arteker...

I remember it just being in like a corner of the zone and everyone running to it at one point and it did drop in Nek. Corner meaning like where the north and west wall intersect for example. Dunno if it was first or second floor but I think 1st.. just trying to find more things I can use in searching for it.

[maximum]

there was a zone out same than fear had one inside the temple.i remember it droping you in nektulos.

That zone-out is currently active and usable (Plane of Fear). This thread is about Hate.

[Xadion]

he was saying 'there was a zone out (in hate) like (the one) in fear' I would assume it looked like the fear one from his post.

I doubt it would be 2nd floor...too convenient to zone out by inny...as it wouldn't be in the 'not open' spots of 2nd floor

[Arteker]

what i remember is when we cleared pohate 2 floor in velious most mele would go down and click soemthing in a wall and would get us in nektulos .

it become later not much a feat cuz thurga potions . but im prety sure it droped you in nektulos .

[Nirgon]

Time to go click around on EQ Mac?

This should be in plane of hate with inny 2.0 but not the full live revamp. It should also be in like the patch notes says, some time just a bit before Velious while in Kunark.

None of the EQEmu servers I've played had it..

[Xadion]

Feb 2000 is more soonish in kunark than laterish... So yes well before the 2nd floor is opened up... Well all of the 2nd floor that is lol with the PoG level mobs that drop tunare lover armor heh.

I would just make it the chair in the corner in maestros church thing.

does eq mac have hate v1? I don't even remember a zone out in v2

[Arteker]

Eqmac : up to pop.

this mean foor hate u now can handle a npc a stone and u can be teleported there. and the zone is total different one .

the teleport stuff in original pohate was in near where innoruck pop now .

is kinda in pom when u cliked that three.

[Arteker]

there is a npc who port you to hate

[Nirgon]

Well someone take a screenie of where this zone out brick should be I guess and wrap it up?

In PoM, I recall there being a tree you could click that took out to Cobalt Scar or Great Divide..

[Tasslehofp99]

Cool. Any word on this?

[Crom]

Bump ^

Any words about this ?
Paineel has been ingame for a while now so where is this feature ?

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000217a.html

[Ele]

Bump ^

Any words about this ?
Paineel has been ingame for a while now so where is this feature ?

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000217a.html

No one has found compelling evidence for where or what should be the zone out.

[Crom]

No one has found compelling evidence for where or what should be the zone out.

Other then patch notes what would be needed ?

Should I logon my live account and take printscreens ?

[Erati]

Is the zone out where eventually Hate 2.0 began?

maybe?

[pharmakos]

well it would be more classic to have a misplaced zoneout teleporter than to not have one at all.

Devs just stick one somewhere until we find conclusive evidence of where exactly it should be?

[Erati]

I have a feeling the reason most dont remember this in classic is :

A. the zone is confusing and scary....not many wondered around in 99-2000
B. you have to use wizards to get up to plane of hate, soo most likely your raid had several teleporters in close proximity when your raid concluded so porting out was not that big of deal

Would love to get this added in if its a feature we are suppose to be enjoying in PoH.

[Nirgon]

A: I was a wizard so I ported people out :(
B: I do recall using this once and I at least know where it should drop you, right where the PoK book was implemented in Nek.

So hopefully we can at least agree on B... I absolutely remember this coming in... yet VAGUELY remember there being some white brick that stood out from the rest that did it.

[Erati]

I was a wizard as well on live ( Bristlebane reppin whaddup)

You couldnt pay me enough to do Plane of Hate. lol my least favorite raids ever.

[nilbog]

No one has found compelling evidence for where or what should be the zone out.

This, pretty much.

If someone gets bored, log on eqlive, go look around. See if you can find it.

[Daldaen]

PoHate A doesn't exist on EQLive anymore.

[Nubben]

I'm logged into PoHate B on live right now, and using the in game zone connection tool, it looks like there are no zone out points in PoHate B. If there ever was one, it was not included in the revamp.

For some reason, I have 7 gnoll fangs in my inventory, so while I'm on here I am going to go and see how much exp they give at level 80.

Edit: 7 gnoll fangs gave 0% exp at level 80

[Nirgon]

PoHate A doesn't exist on EQLive anymore.

Ya what they did to Freeport made me alt F4 the game never to return.

NONE of the guards saw invis on there either btw... more carebear/hand holdy WoW stuff than I could handle.

[Crom]

B on this map ?


http://metabrain.tripod.com/misc_map/PlaneOfHate.D.jpg

[pharmakos]

^ link doesn't work, tripod doesn't appreciate outside links i suppose

save and reupload please

[Daldaen]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x205/Daldaen/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps03dcbba6.jpg

Had to upload on phone.

[pharmakos]

dude, good find

[Erati]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x205/Daldaen/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps03dcbba6.jpg

Had to upload on phone.

so now we have a map of hate AND a map key that clearly says where the teleporter is even describing it as a "white circle" ( note: Nirgon referred to it as a white brick )

Would love some more eyes at this tasty find :)

Edit: I get that this is from Hate 2.0 however I would doubt that they would introduce the zone out in the patch with Paineel, remove it before Hate 2.0 then put it back in again for this map.

So the zone out had to be in there whole time.

[nilbog]

This area, on second floor, is inaccessible at the moment due to the block in Innoruuk's room.

Here's what it looks like.

http://i60.tinypic.com/123qknc.jpg

[Ele]

Did another search and I can't find any era appropriate information besides the patch note for a zone out.

[Nirgon]

I feel like it was rare people ever had to use those given a wizard was obviously there to port up and druids came for 2.0 armor all the time. Even still.. you had to be a class without gate/gate potion/gate item and left up there... cutting the usage down even more.

Maybe some rogues would know and this is enough to jog their memory.

[pharmakos]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x205/Daldaen/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps03dcbba6.jpg

Had to upload on phone.

This area, on second floor, is inaccessible at the moment due to the block in Innoruuk's room.

Here's what it looks like.

http://i60.tinypic.com/123qknc.jpg

looks like you're standing in the same spot as B on that map. and there is indeed a white circle there.

circle looks sort of high up, though (perhaps just camera angle). would it be possible to click that from the ground?

[Nubben]

Maybe some rogues would know and this is enough to jog their memory.

When I was looking into this I actually did check a bunch of old Ragebringer guides and Book of Souls questions on the Safehouse and Allakhazam, and every single one recommended gate potions, OT hammers, WC hats, Thurgadin potions, etc. as a means of escape. Not a single mention of this zone out point that I could find.

[Leeyuuduu]

Well I was a rogue throughout '00 and lost power while on a hate raid with my guild. Logged in the next morning and I'll be damned if you think someone would go wandering around plane of hate back in the day!!! spent the next hour or two crying for a wizzie to come rescue me instead. No one ever mentioned anything about an exit, kind of blows my mind that one could have existed this long without us knowing about it.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Even when it was added, it was very unknown. I remember my GL using it after Velious, and everyone going "Huh?"

[Erati]

well I bet if you teleported back to a Classic server in the year 2000 and told them on our emulated EQ we use
Cazic Thule's Puppet strings to complete the OT hammer quest and also for elite raid tank aggro everyone would go "Huh?"

just because people did not 'know' does not equal did not exist. Thats what we are trying to figure out, seemingly fruitlessly however.

[Frieza_Prexus]

well I bet if you teleported back to a Classic server in the year 2000 and told them on our emulated EQ we use
Cazic Thule's Puppet strings to complete the OT hammer quest and also for elite raid tank aggro everyone would go "Huh?"

just because people did not 'know' does not equal did not exist. Thats what we are trying to figure out, seemingly fruitlessly however.

Yes, I understand we're trying (dis)prove its existence. I was simply dropping the idea that it not being well known is not dispositive of the issue. Just because no one knew about it doesn't mean it wasn't there. That's all I'm saying; some of the comments seemed to be leading towards "it would have been better know if it existed."

[pharmakos]

nirgon started a thread asking about this on rerolled. one poster responded "it must not have existed, because if it did exist we would have seen it on ShowEQ"

which is a good point =/

[Crom]

LOL, looks like the there is a teleporter but not out of the zone : )
Just installed my orginal Kunark CD looking for something else and found this in a patch file on it.

February 17th, 3:00pm
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There's one minor issue with Paineel that we neglected to mention in the patch message. At the entrance to the city, there is an elevator that must be activated with a key. The "keyhole" in this instance is a rock that is on the ground near the lift. A minor bug exists that does not allow people to click on the rock to activate the elevator. In order to activate the elevator, players will need to hold the key on their pointer, hover it over the rock, and press the "U" key. This will be fixed in a future patch.

In addition, the patch message made reference to a teleporter being placed within the Plane of Hate. The information provided concerning this teleporter was incorrect. The information should read as follows:

- A bug exists within the Plane of Hate that sometimes causes people to be transported to an inactive portion of the zone, from which there is no exit. A teleporter has been placed within this area to transport people who are trapped back to the entrance of Hate.

- The EverQuest Team

[khanable]

Wow, nice crom - what else is in that patch file? Is there more? host it up

Funnily enough I dug out my kunark disc this morning too but couldn't get it to install and was too lazy to do a win98/xp VM :P

[Ele]

hot damn

[Daldaen]

Shit... Once I get home I may have to load up Kunark and Velious and Luclin for some of those hot patch files!

[nilbog]

LOL, looks like the there is a teleporter but not out of the zone : )
Just installed my orginal Kunark CD looking for something else and found this in a patch file on it.

February 17th, 3:00pm
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There's one minor issue with Paineel that we neglected to mention in the patch message. At the entrance to the city, there is an elevator that must be activated with a key. The "keyhole" in this instance is a rock that is on the ground near the lift. A minor bug exists that does not allow people to click on the rock to activate the elevator. In order to activate the elevator, players will need to hold the key on their pointer, hover it over the rock, and press the "U" key. This will be fixed in a future patch.

In addition, the patch message made reference to a teleporter being placed within the Plane of Hate. The information provided concerning this teleporter was incorrect. The information should read as follows:

- A bug exists within the Plane of Hate that sometimes causes people to be transported to an inactive portion of the zone, from which there is no exit. A teleporter has been placed within this area to transport people who are trapped back to the entrance of Hate.

- The EverQuest Team

Nice, thanks. Wondered about this for a long time.

[khanable]

On that note, I was totally summoned to that inactive part. I had to lev-duck-dance to get through the block near inny's room. Portal shmortal!

[Coffee]

Nice, thanks. Wondered about this for a long time.

Are you able to confirm that there is indeed a zone out in an odd spot? Or do you think it was reverted in later patches (I doubt it would have been undone)?