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Amelinda
01-25-2012, 06:37 PM
Question:

Do you want Global OOC instituted. Why or why not??

Pro:
Easier to find a group
Easier to associate with the community and make friends.

Con:
People will use it to grief players off of the server.
People will use it to broadcast your location to the entire server.

quickcheck
01-25-2012, 06:38 PM
you dont need to list what zone your in to have global ooc

Srs Not Ames
01-25-2012, 06:39 PM
Vote yes yes yes yes YES!

Structures_Fall
01-25-2012, 06:39 PM
you dont need to list what zone your in to have global ooc

http://isanyoneup.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/hodge8.gif

I vote yes by the way.

Amelinda
01-25-2012, 06:39 PM
you dont need to list what zone your in to have global ooc

Player 1: global ooc: HEY! has anyone seen that jerk Quickcheck? he bind camped me earlier.
Player 2: He's in unrest bro!
Player 1: Thanks!

a little later

Player 1: Looking for Quickcheck!
Player 2: LOL! He just zoned into Butcherblock.


so you can be anon all you want...but other people will rat you out.

Zalaerian
01-25-2012, 06:41 PM
Snitches get stitches

Morninx
01-25-2012, 06:42 PM
Question:

Do you want Global OOC instituted. Why or why not??

Pro:
Easier to find a group
Easier to associate with the community and make friends.

Con:
People will use it to grief players off of the server.
People will use it to broadcast your location to the entire server.



A+ question....

Salty
01-25-2012, 06:43 PM
Yellow Text official poll plz


Easier to associate with the community and make friends.

Daldaen
01-25-2012, 06:43 PM
Player 1: global ooc: HEY! has anyone seen that jerk Quickcheck? he bind camped me earlier.
Player 2: He's in unrest bro!
Player 1: Thanks!

a little later

Player 1: Looking for Quickcheck!
Player 2: LOL! He just zoned into Butcherblock.


so you can be anon all you want...but other people will rat you out.

Disable anon/roleplay. Watch the Q_Q ensue!

Amuk
01-25-2012, 06:43 PM
I was hardcore against global ooc because you have faggots spamming it occasionally with talk of hacks and other shit that make the server look bad.

That being said, I have changed my opinion completely - currently with the population, exp rate, and no two boxing it's damn near impossible for a solo player to level any non solo class up to 50. I think it's worth at least trying.

Amuk
01-25-2012, 06:44 PM
I think maybe some slight troll moderation - as in removing OOC priveleges for people who non stop troll it.

Salty
01-25-2012, 06:45 PM
trollin part of the game son.

Someone gets upset in ooc, everyone jumps on em.

#funny

Srs Not Ames
01-25-2012, 06:46 PM
I think maybe some slight troll moderation - as in removing OOC priveleges for people who non stop troll it.

I agree with this. Trolling forums is one thing but you should be a gentleman and a scholar while you are in the magical world of Norrath.

Bkab
01-25-2012, 06:46 PM
if you don't want global ooc just fuckin turn it off simple as that, VOTE YES

Bkab
01-25-2012, 06:46 PM
I agree with this. Trolling forums is one thing but you should be a gentleman and a scholar while you are in the magical world of Norrath.

hahaha

Morninx
01-25-2012, 06:47 PM
Yellow Text official poll plz


1 battle at a time my man

Amuk
01-25-2012, 06:48 PM
I don't consider being a dick trolling, more so non stop retarded spam and what not. Shit talking is half the fun of EQ.

quickcheck
01-25-2012, 06:50 PM
Snitches get stitches

agreed

quickcheck
01-25-2012, 06:51 PM
global ooc will help this server grow right now we got shitty number becouse its so hard to play and level up in the low level range... especialy if your a melee class like a warrior

Bkab
01-25-2012, 06:57 PM
Question:

Con:

People will use it to broadcast your location to the entire server.
don't see how encouraging pvp is a con !

Harrison
01-25-2012, 06:58 PM
Can you imagine OOC with these illiterate drooling kids on it?


"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

There's your OOC with these idiots in it.

Judge
01-25-2012, 07:03 PM
as a brand new player to the server i vote yes

ranger lfg! lol

Dojii
01-25-2012, 07:05 PM
All praise Empress AMELINDA

THE GREATEST SPEECH EVER MADE (click me) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibmcsEGLKo)

Nirgon
01-25-2012, 07:08 PM
Do it for a week see what happens, that's my vote.

So yes.

However put something in the server motd that it will only be on for a week.

It's going to turn into a massive shit and piss festival arguing about "yuh huh" "nuh uh" but whatever.

At least people can sell things in game easier.


Actually, do it for even a night. Just be sure you have the off switch.

Amuk
01-25-2012, 07:09 PM
And groups being able to form up, but thanks for the concern Harrison, too bad none of these drooling kids want you around - so fuck off?

Morninx
01-25-2012, 07:11 PM
Can you imagine OOC with these illiterate drooling kids on it?


"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

There's your OOC with these idiots in it.


Harrison... you ARE one of "these" idiots... if not "THE" idiot.... idiot...

Morninx
01-25-2012, 07:13 PM
Do it for a week see what happens, that's my vote.

So yes.

However put something in the server motd that it will only be on for a week.

It's going to turn into a massive shit and piss festival arguing about "yuh huh" "nuh uh" but whatever.

At least people can sell things in game easier.


Actually, do it for even a night. Just be sure you have the off switch.


it would probably need a week just to calm down and not be the annoying blabber people are using as a fear factor.

Ezalor
01-25-2012, 07:19 PM
Can you imagine OOC with these illiterate drooling kids on it?


"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

"LOL ALL CAP SPAM RACISM 4CHAN REDDIT MEMESPEWING"

There's your OOC with these idiots in it.

do you even play red99? why are you talking?

also, is /ignore function really that difficult for you to figure out?

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 07:20 PM
Player 1: global ooc: HEY! has anyone seen that jerk Quickcheck? he bind camped me earlier.
Player 2: He's in unrest bro!
Player 1: Thanks!

a little later

Player 1: Looking for Quickcheck!
Player 2: LOL! He just zoned into Butcherblock.


so you can be anon all you want...but other people will rat you out.


Exactly. it will ruin game for people who already do play and just be more things moderators have to monitor. Nothing is going to make people want to play no stupid incentives are going to make people WANT to play, maybe try acting like adults and human beings and people wont leave the community. A a global ooc is going to be a bad first impression for people who first come into the game. Its also NOT CLASSIC PVP, no live server ever had such nonsense. The server is fine as is!

Stinkum
01-25-2012, 07:24 PM
Exactly. it will ruin game for people who already do play and just be more things moderators have to monitor. Nothing is going to make people want to play no stupid incentives are going to make people WANT to play, maybe try acting like adults and human beings and people wont leave the community. A a global ooc is going to be a bad first impression for people who first come into the game. Its also NOT CLASSIC PVP, no live server ever had such nonsense. The server is fine as is!

As a person who recently just entered the server and is playing a low level Paladin, its damn near impossible for me to find a group considering I did not roll with a "crew" here and am new to the server.

Global OOC would help me. I dont give a crap at all about what youre posting.

Not having global OOC is what is making people like me want to quit. Again, I dont give a crap about your complaining about.

-- the 2 cents of someone new to the server playing a non-solo class

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 07:25 PM
[QUOTE=Amelinda;534557]Question:

Do you want Global OOC instituted. Why or why not??

Pro:
Easier to find a group
Easier to associate with the community and make friends.

Big brother now compensates for assholes and douchebags whos anti-social behavior makes them incompatible with developing their own relationships with other human beings. Big brother will now force you to be in chat with them. Whats the purpose of having guilds then? When the server will be one big guild chat.

Doors
01-25-2012, 07:29 PM
GLOBAL OOC AND YELLOW TEXT, TY

Srs Not Ames
01-25-2012, 07:30 PM
You guys DO know that there is an /ignore command right? If you dislike a person so much and don't want to listen to them in OOC then /ignore them you tool.

Srs Not Ames
01-25-2012, 07:30 PM
26 Yes - 6 No


The tribe has spoken

Stinkum
01-25-2012, 07:31 PM
I'm someone who is brand new to the server, playing a non-solo class (Paladin). Let me tell you about what it's like, and if you would continue playing here if you had the same experience.

> Log in
> Put on LFG tag
> Ask the ~2 other people in my zone if they want to group, get no response.
> Spend hours traveling to other newbie zones with ~2 people in them, repeat scenario.
> Type /who all LFG, can't tell levels or classes since everyone is Anon. Send them tells asking if they want to group. No luck.
> Continue out-of-charactering if anyone wants to group with me for more hours.
> Been several hours, and I havne't got much of any XP besides the light blues I am able to solo as a Paladin.
> Give up and log out, want to quit Red99.

Not having Global OOC is what is driving people like me from not playing Red 99.

Not the other way around.



Listen to people who are actually new to the server about what makes them not want to quit. Everyone that is saying OOC spam will drive away new players is trying to speak for us. Listen to the actual people who are new to the server and have to level.

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 07:36 PM
As a person who recently just entered the server and is playing a low level Paladin, its damn near impossible for me to find a group considering I did not roll with a "crew" here and am new to the server.

Global OOC would help me. I dont give a crap at all about what youre posting.

Not having global OOC is what is making people like me want to quit. Again, I dont give a crap about your complaining about.

-- the 2 cents of someone new to the server playing a non-solo class

I started on this server a month ago exactly as a paladin. im level 32 now. i had no friends. i made them. thats what the game is about. im sorry its not instanced wow content that summons you and other to a zone for a good time. but this is gettign redic. I wandered from zone to zone and found others. We formed a guild. We are now one of the largest on the servers. People dont know how to innovate themselves so they have others innvate for them.

Cons = Irc is already filled with racism and anti semetic garbage.
Dont need to know every time there is little drama between people
Dont need to know everytime someone dies or is trained or killed.
Dont need to hear bitching about game mechanics
Dont need to hear everytime someone rage quits, though it can be funny.

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 07:36 PM
you cant ignore people giving your location away. you shmuck.

Ogre
01-25-2012, 07:38 PM
Yeah, because global OOC to help new players and non-solo classes form xp groups = instanced WoW content that summons you and others to a zone for a good time.

No flaws in that logic.

Amuk
01-25-2012, 07:38 PM
actually you have 6 noobs on probably all different level ranges, but nice try there iron.

Nirgon
01-25-2012, 07:40 PM
it would probably need a week just to calm down and not be the annoying blabber people are using as a fear factor.

By all means try it. I certainly have expectations of what will occur.

I'm sure "optimistic" about how you some of you think it would turn out:
"hey newbie looking for group or pvp!"
"hey! we're at the aviak house in south karana, we'd love a naked melee to join us! sure it hard out there right!"
(group finds pvp)
"good fight guys! wanna go xp together now?"
"Sure!"
(after a long, hot day of adventuring and playing outside in Norrath)
http://i41.tinypic.com/30benaq.png
http://i39.tinypic.com/15guxdl.png


^ Yeah that's what's going to happen. I give it 6 hours.

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 07:46 PM
shouldent irc or mumble be a fair guess as to what it will be like?
it sounds like a damn stormfront kkk skinhead rally.

on a pve server, i understand. on a server where the ability to do things stealth and privately acctually matter? i cant even believe its a topic of debate.

Harrison
01-25-2012, 07:48 PM
It's funny you think global ooc is what is killing your server.

You exploit content, make it public on forums, and wonder why no one wants to play with a bunch of cheating pieces of shit? Geniuses.

oldengray
01-25-2012, 07:49 PM
:eek:Global chat is nothing but spam there is no reason for it other than to grief other players...If you lfg in your zone and noone is grouping leave the zone and Adventure into another one.No need to have everyone know where everyone is at any moment takes too much from the game and causes people to leave server ..we have few enough now as it is...

tshakur
01-25-2012, 07:50 PM
would play again if global ooc was up

Zalaerian
01-25-2012, 07:53 PM
If you dont have the skin to deal with people trolling in OOC then you wont have the skin for lvl 50 pvp

Kingofqueens123
01-25-2012, 07:58 PM
would play again if global ooc was up

Smedy
01-25-2012, 08:00 PM
Global ooc or chat is important for the community, right now i feel like i could play a single player game just as much as playing red99.

Back in 1999 this wasn't a problem since there was around 50+ players in every zone, you always had someone to group/talk with, this isn't the case on red99.

I don't see the issue of having "players reporting my locations in ooc" as a problem, bring it on. I want the fight, and the more people know about it, the more people will enjoy the game.

Looking at the big dragon fight that was a few days ago with holocaust vs nihlium that would have been awesome for the server if ooc was open, all the newbies can see things are going down people are engaging and raging, making people want to get up there cause shit is happning.

Right now everyone is just sitting in their own corner listening to windtunnel.wav getting depressed, and pretty much anyone new to the server will never get to know the community without global ooc.

However i am all in favor for making it an option, like /join channel #globalooc" so people who cant "handle some shit talk" can just stay away and enjoy their immersion with seafoam.wav

Summarize wall of text: Global ooc, AMERICA FUCK YEAH (yes)

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 08:01 PM
all the bloobs forecasting gloom & doom are just scared of pvp happening

would play again if global ooc was up

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 08:03 PM
a group of people on mumble said they voted yes despite no desire to ever pay again so subtract about 5 votes from yes.

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 08:04 PM
a group of people on mumble said they voted yes despite no desire to ever pay again so subtract about 5 votes from yes.

^ shitting his pants terrified of pvp happening

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 08:08 PM
bigjapan just said in mumbe. "as soon as global ooc is introduced i wil return to game just to troll!"

grow up.

Smedy
01-25-2012, 08:11 PM
Just ban people who obviously just troll ooc then

Killing someone and then telling them they suck in ooc is not trolling, that's shit talking.

Talking random shit on a lvl 10 character completely out of the loop of the game, like talking about alex jones conspiracy theories in ooc is trolling, just ban these faggots i have no desire to read bullshit

Shit talk is fun though and has always been a part of eq

Trolls these days are un original as fuck and boring

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 08:11 PM
man, using the /ignore function on a troll in global ooc is so hard

Nirgon
01-25-2012, 08:14 PM
Go ahead try it for a day. Maybe it will turn out well.

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 08:14 PM
we already tried it in beta, for several months

there were no problems.

someone trolling ooc? wow /ignore is so difficult

tshakur
01-25-2012, 08:14 PM
a group of people on mumble said they voted yes despite no desire to ever pay again so subtract about 5 votes from yes.

by group he means me

by no desire to play again he means would play again if global ooc implemented

by speaking he means bullshit

El Culo
01-25-2012, 08:15 PM
voted yes

let's see whos against freedom of speech:

harrison
zionlion


BIG FUCKING SHOCKER

lethdar
01-25-2012, 08:16 PM
Project 1999 blue had global ooc for the first year or so until it had reached a high enough population, its honestly been ridiculous to expect a server to thrive without global ooc until a certain population threshold has been reached.

Nirgon
01-25-2012, 08:17 PM
I voted yes to give it a chance because I think it's a good thing for a smaller pop.

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 08:19 PM
im not against freedom of speech. im against things that arent classic and would be misused and put a strain on the aready stretched moderator / developer community.

El Culo
01-25-2012, 08:20 PM
why u go against america bro

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 08:20 PM
I voted yes to give it a chance because I think it's a good thing for a smaller pop.

there is no need to "give it a chance," just put it in asap.

we had global ooc for over 2 months during beta and it was awesome, there were no problems at all.

tshakur
01-25-2012, 08:20 PM
"If global OOC is implemented I will ragequit." -ironlion on mumble

plz institute

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 08:22 PM
im against freedom of speech and scared of pvp happening

Nirgon
01-25-2012, 08:22 PM
there is no need to "give it a chance," just put it in asap.

we had global ooc for over 2 months during beta and it was awesome, there were no problems at all.

It was a blue server.

HMMMMMM

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 08:23 PM
It was a blue server.

HMMMMMM

we had global ooc on red beta, what the fuck are you talking about

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 08:23 PM
try it for a night or a weekend. then ask the same poll. im not inflexible. but most trolls are.

tshakur
01-25-2012, 08:23 PM
It was a blue server.

HMMMMMM

quoting this retardation for editproof posterity

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 08:26 PM
try it for a night or a weekend. then ask the same poll. im not inflexible. but most trolls are.

we already tried it for 2+ months on red99 beta

you know beta, where they test things?

someone is trolling ooc? oh man, /ignore is SO hard. what ever will we do?

Pitborn
01-25-2012, 08:26 PM
A trial basis on OOC wouldnt hurt anything.

Yellow Text trial run also pls.

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 08:27 PM
beta = trial

already happened

put it in now, and permanently, thats what the overwhelming community wants

tshakur
01-25-2012, 08:27 PM
Yellow Text trial run also pls.

Good idea. We need to encourage PVP. This is the bluest red emu server in history.

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 08:28 PM
its not just the trolling. finding groups is the only benifet. it was always the downside of the game. all the garbage that comes with just one benifet doesent seem worthwhille.

tshakur
01-25-2012, 08:29 PM
its not just the trolling. finding groups is the only benifet. it was always the downside of the game. all the garbage that comes with just one benifet doesent seem worthwhille.

no sense of humor etc

disregard this idiot

Nirgon
01-25-2012, 08:30 PM
quoting this retardation for editproof posterity

I was referring to blue where they apparently had it on live not beta.

Thanks, I know global ooc was in beta on red.

Anyways, go ahead turn it on for a while.

El Culo
01-25-2012, 08:36 PM
option 2 should read: im antisocial, hate 1st amendment, and/or scared of basketball


also 4 to 1 so far is overwhelming majority landslide

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 08:43 PM
TSHAKUR is Riptupac, you may remember his corpse from such locations as the nybrght sister camps. he was griefed off the server because he couldent handle the grind of soloing the sisters. as a druid! an eazy solo class. drop some more acid buddy

Harrison
01-25-2012, 08:48 PM
there is no need to "give it a chance," just put it in asap.

we had global ooc for over 2 months during beta and it was awesome, there were no problems at all.

Most mouthbreathing vztzjects didn't beta.

tshakur
01-25-2012, 08:49 PM
TSHAKUR is Riptupac, you may remember his corpse from such locations as the nybrght sister camps. he was griefed off the server because he couldent handle the grind of soloing the sisters. as a druid! an eazy solo class. drop some more acid buddy

pretty sure getting bored of pve grind & realizing everyone else on server is a bloob is not same as getting griefed

enjoy your futile fight & awful reputation (which can soon be broadcast serverwide by any lvl 1)

Nirgon
01-25-2012, 09:11 PM
everyone else on server is a bloob

Yeah ok

fiegi
01-25-2012, 09:26 PM
Hopefully yellow pvp text is right around the corner.

tshakur
01-25-2012, 09:27 PM
^

SearyxTZ
01-25-2012, 09:33 PM
Amelinda, you rock for making this thread. :cool:

Lazortag
01-25-2012, 09:39 PM
I'll vote yes if there's a guarantee that yellow text never gets implemented.

fiegi
01-25-2012, 09:41 PM
I'll vote yes if there's a guarantee that yellow text never gets implemented.

Why are you so against yellow txt?

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 09:51 PM
Why are you so against yellow txt?

inc long-winded wall of text of lazortag's opinion on everquest

the only unpredictable part is that for some reason it was solicited this time around god knows why

Lazortag
01-25-2012, 09:52 PM
Why are you so against yellow txt?

Well I'm anti-pk so I think people should only pvp when there's a good reason. Yellow text is like leaderboards, it encourages people to kill for no reason other than to wave their e-peens around and claim superiority over others. Eq is a make-your-own fun kind of game, if you want to play as an anti-pk or a dwarf-slayer or a griefer or whatever, neither one of those options should be encouraged over the others.

edit: shut up Purist.

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 09:53 PM
i'm scared shitless of more pvp happening

Lazortag
01-25-2012, 09:58 PM
anti-pk is not "anti-pvp" you moron. I'm frequently engaged in pvp, just (in my opinion) it's not meaningless. I choose to be anti-PK because I think it's more fun to pvp people who deserve it. I don't really care if others want to play a certain way, I just don't think any particular rules of engagement should be encouraged over others.

Vile
01-25-2012, 10:00 PM
Why are you so against yellow txt?

Cause his brother dies on his char, see sig for details.

Srs Not Ames
01-25-2012, 10:00 PM
I'll vote yes if there's a guarantee that yellow text never gets implemented.

Its over a 2 to 1 ratio on Yes to No.


We don't need your vote bro.

Lazortag
01-25-2012, 10:02 PM
Cause his brother dies on his char, see sig for details.

You know I was clearly joking about the little brother thing, right? I don't even have a little brother :p

I don't know if this was asked, but if there was global ooc, how much would it be moderated?

Autotune
01-25-2012, 10:03 PM
should have made the voters public. Making it private only encourages people to spam fake accounts to vote with.

Then if you remove the fake votes and it turns out that the majority wasn't actually the majority, these redtards will just flame, piss, moan and complain that nothing gets done.


GL with it tho.

Boden
01-25-2012, 10:05 PM
GLOBAL OOC IS THE WORST IDEA EVER.

Vile
01-25-2012, 10:06 PM
You know I was clearly joking about the little brother thing, right? I don't even have a little brother :p

I don't know if this was asked, but if there was global ooc, how much would it be moderated?

liar

Dojii
01-25-2012, 10:15 PM
just make global general chat optional to join. not everyone wanna read dat shit. /join general

its already in the titanium client tbh

Srs Not Ames
01-25-2012, 10:42 PM
should have made the voters public. Making it private only encourages people to spam fake accounts to vote with.

Then if you remove the fake votes and it turns out that the majority wasn't actually the majority, these redtards will just flame, piss, moan and complain that nothing gets done.


GL with it tho.

You don't play on our server so why do you even care?

Autotune
01-25-2012, 10:58 PM
You don't play on our server so why do you even care?

Nothing wrong with wanting the other side of the fence to be prettier imo. Stop making me E-property value drop and trim ya hedges.

rulezgetbent
01-25-2012, 11:12 PM
No global ooc, and no global channels.

*) Global ooc is not classic.
*) an opt out global channel would just mean your location can still be broadcasted but you wont know. puts you at a disadvantage.
*) Many players dont even read the forums, they just want to play and are not forum warriors. probably dont even know about this poll.
*) Most of the whiners who want it super bad will probably just make multiple fake accounts to vote yes. poll invalid.

Harrison
01-25-2012, 11:15 PM
Just imagine how many accounts some of these drooling neckbeards have had for months now. Poll invalidated.

IronLikeALionInZion
01-25-2012, 11:20 PM
i support last two posts

purist 3.0
01-25-2012, 11:24 PM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w66/darthdilbert/Blog/its_a_conspiracy.jpg

Skoochie
01-25-2012, 11:39 PM
meh

Zigfreed
01-25-2012, 11:51 PM
The need it to have a chance of successfully finding a group folks have good points. The omfg no the spamtards will ruin everything in 4 mins folks have a point as well.

How about.. Global OOC but you can only type in it once a minute.

denwenly
01-25-2012, 11:54 PM
YES

Skoochie
01-25-2012, 11:56 PM
The need it to have a chance of successfully finding a group folks have good points. The omfg no the spamtards will ruin everything in 4 mins folks have a point as well.

How about.. Global OOC but you can only type in it once a minute.


that could work! less trolling

Arshis
01-26-2012, 12:21 AM
To lazy to read all the posts, so not sure if someone had mentioned. You could just enable chat channels. This way both parties could win. No global Ooc and people who want to join the lfg chat can.

Haul
01-26-2012, 12:22 AM
keep it out plz

The Revanchist
01-26-2012, 12:41 AM
keep it out plz

Don't you have things to sell at a 450% markup on Blue? go away.

Titanuk
01-26-2012, 12:53 AM
Yellow Text official poll plz

purist 3.0
01-26-2012, 01:06 AM
Don't you have things to sell at a 450% markup on Blue? go away.

Convict
01-26-2012, 01:07 AM
I'm going to pull a mitt romney flip flop on this issue.

I now support global ooc with this pop.

Make it so

pojab
01-26-2012, 01:14 AM
I support global ooc because i like playing a game that is connected to the internet.

rulezgetbent
01-26-2012, 01:16 AM
there is 180 people on the server right now. Thats a pretty good population really. and its pretty spread out. roughly 4 - 5 people in every zone that i have run through. around 300 it starts to get crowded. at 400 your going to be fighting for camps.

The Revanchist
01-26-2012, 01:19 AM
at 400 your going to be fighting for camps.

that's what you want for a pvp server?

purist 3.0
01-26-2012, 01:25 AM
at 400 your going to be fighting for camps.

bloob detected

rulezgetbent
01-26-2012, 01:25 AM
that's what you want for a pvp server?

my point is that the population is fine, and increasing even. there is no need for global ooc, and the population is not severely low. My point has nothing to do with whether or not there should be pvp. glad you asked though.

The Revanchist
01-26-2012, 01:27 AM
i don't get your point at all. This isn't about pop, this is about global /ooc, and how it would help people get groups.

rulezgetbent
01-26-2012, 01:32 AM
Right, your argument is that you need global ooc to find groups because the population is too low.

pasi
01-26-2012, 01:56 AM
Re-do poll with chat vs global ooc.

Population is too low in combination with /anon to not have something to counter the solo-game. It's probably too high (including forum goers making troll accounts) to have global ooc though. Meet in the middle and implement chats. If those don't work, full-on-global-ooc it.

Plus, chat channels should keep a lot of the juicy drama on the forums so that all can enjoy.

rankorr
01-26-2012, 02:01 AM
no global ooc please, i have friends that cant stop from trolling til they get themselves to bansville. so for their sakes, dont do this.

rulezgetbent
01-26-2012, 02:16 AM
if you want global ooc, start networking and befriending people/guilds instead of martyring, then you will be able to get knowledge from everyone about anyone.

El Culo
01-26-2012, 02:19 AM
talks about martyring...

...on throwaway troll account

purist 3.0
01-26-2012, 02:40 AM
overwhelming majority want global ooc, deal with it

/queue "it's a conspiracy!" tinfoil hats

tshakur
01-26-2012, 04:02 AM
Re-do poll with chat vs global ooc.

Population is too low in combination with /anon to not have something to counter the solo-game. It's probably too high (including forum goers making troll accounts) to have global ooc though. Meet in the middle and implement chats. If those don't work, full-on-global-ooc it.

Plus, chat channels should keep a lot of the juicy drama on the forums so that all can enjoy.

Chat channels are stupid and there is no need to meet anyone halfway. Global OOC is a good idea.

Silikten
01-26-2012, 04:05 AM
Global ooc is for scumbags. Yellow text is for winners. Choose your side!

Voted NO

Bkab
01-26-2012, 04:12 AM
^fag

Humerox
01-26-2012, 06:08 AM
While a temporary solution with the current population...there are a couple of things to consider.

If things are done to draw new players in, global ooc could be a huge turnoff for them. We could try it and see if the population goes up - which I highly doubt, save maybe 15 or so people that won't last a month because they'll be screaming for 10x XP and won't get it.

The better idea is to use the applications that were surely submitted for new guides, and start doing a bunch of events. I'm talking at least one event a week or more.

We want to draw a permanent crowd. Things have changed a bit from server up. Most exploits have been dealt with, things like guard assist are in now, and server stability is great. Do some positive things to draw people in...I've talked to several people that may quit if global ooc is brought in.

How would losing players to gain (imo) a small number of people work to the server's advantage?

Do things that will excite potential players and that will help retain who we have. The global ooc thing is a very divisive issue.

Tombom
01-26-2012, 06:38 AM
Global ooc is for scumbags. Yellow text is for winners. Choose your side!

Voted NO

why you trollin me bro,

all I want in this god forsaken game is sommeee.....

GREEN AND YELLOWGREEN AND YELLOWGREEN AND YELLOWGREEN AND YELLOWGREEN AND YELLOWGREEN AND YELLOW

Tassador
01-26-2012, 09:17 AM
if i see one "HEY ALL LFG TANK LOOKING FOR FUN TIMES". im closing all chat windows and playing this mofo blind.

Rust1d?
01-26-2012, 10:07 AM
Keep global ooc out unless it is policed. Maybe put in a global auction channel for trading

Arillious
01-26-2012, 11:09 AM
I'll vote yes if everyone who has ever said that it is the main reason why pop has dropped becomes 2 times as active.

Smedy
01-26-2012, 11:24 AM
lol look at all these random idiots poppin out of nowhere to vote "no" on this poll

confirmed all blue p99 players who only want red99 to burn.

this is why we can't have nice things.

harrison stop trolling the forums you fuck

Producer
01-26-2012, 12:48 PM
Meh, it has benefits and negatives longevity of this global /ooc is uncanny.

Amelinda
01-26-2012, 01:26 PM
While a temporary solution with the current population...there are a couple of things to consider.

If things are done to draw new players in, global ooc could be a huge turnoff for them. We could try it and see if the population goes up - which I highly doubt, save maybe 15 or so people that won't last a month because they'll be screaming for 10x XP and won't get it.

The better idea is to use the applications that were surely submitted for new guides, and start doing a bunch of events. I'm talking at least one event a week or more.

We want to draw a permanent crowd. Things have changed a bit from server up. Most exploits have been dealt with, things like guard assist are in now, and server stability is great. Do some positive things to draw people in...I've talked to several people that may quit if global ooc is brought in.

How would losing players to gain (imo) a small number of people work to the server's advantage?

Do things that will excite potential players and that will help retain who we have. The global ooc thing is a very divisive issue.

Prefacing this with: NOT SAYING GLOBAL OOC IS GOING IN FOR SURE

Just quoting one post because I'm too sick to go back and dig out everything I want to reply to specifically. This post embodies pretty much what all of the naysayers (or Neigh-sayers amirite GLITCH?) are saying.

The main arguments against global OOC seem to be:

1. The trolls will take it over.
2. The potential for it to look like a local klan meeting.
3. People giving away locations
4. Potential for people to grief others off of the server

The channel will be moderated so i think a lot of that other stuff is moot.
And global ooc on beta was atrocious, don't fool yourselves into thinking it wasn't.

RE: people being concerned that players will quit because of global OOC - what about the players that have quit because there is NO global OOC or no way to find groups? It is important to look at the BIG picture. As far as i'm concerned....I don't personally care either way as long as people behave BUT I am willing to look at the big picture and see why it's possible that it might be needed.

There was also a question here somewhere about how moderated it would be.

Here are some rules that will apply IF global chat is implemented:

- DO NOT use racist remarks. DO NOT harass people. Limit your use of profanity, especially in public channels. Remember there is a difference between cursing and cursing at someone. You will receive warning, and if you still refuse to cooperate, you will be banned.

The guides and I will moderate this channel as deemed necessary.

A few things to note:

*Global OOC needs to be an environment conducive to new players WANTING to play here. That means if someone /ooc's and is a newbie that you don't get to troll them and act like total asshats.

*Can't stress it enough - NO RACIAL SLURS. Keep profanity to a minimum and if I see stuff that is over the top expect me to say something to you and if you don't listen then expect me to get your attention in some way.

*I am DEAD serious. Pretty much if we enable global OOC and you guys can't follow the rules and act like you have sense then you will go around singing the blue server's catchphrase.

"This is why we can't have nice things"


And obviously this is all assuming we DO enable it.

I'm just letting you know it's not going to be the shit fest you may be afraid (or be hoping) it will be.

Oadina
01-26-2012, 01:41 PM
The need it to have a chance of successfully finding a group folks have good points. The omfg no the spamtards will ruin everything in 4 mins folks have a point as well.

How about.. Global OOC but you can only type in it once a minute.

I like that idea best. Is it even possible?

I'm supportive of global ooc for auctions, groups, etc, however, I dread the idea of it being turned into someone's personal soapbox, or like 180 person guildchat all begging for attention.


I haven't voted yet.

Oady~

Zalaerian
01-26-2012, 01:45 PM
3. People giving away locations
So waut?

4. Potential for people to grief others off of the server

If you get griefed off from green txt in a chat box then you dont have the skin for pvp at 50 and would have left anyway

SamwiseRed
01-26-2012, 01:45 PM
im for global ooc but for yellow text even more. seeing pvp is believing pvp at least thats what the voices tell me

Shweet
01-26-2012, 01:57 PM
Seems a bit too much like mom refusing to let kids eat sugared cereal. @AmelindapullingaUSgovernment move.

Being a guide, and being an over controlling mom are very different. I think, unfortunately that you may have crossed over into the over controlling mom a while ago due to the nature of the job and having to deal with the vz/tz people. Control the amount of cheating/exploiting/wrongdoing in that notion and most "drama" will subside. No need to be homeland security and the CIA of EQ.

Trolls are gonna troll and the more trolls you smash the more hydra headed trolls that come out of the woodwork to support their fallen troll. #see vz/tz players

I know vz/tz crowd is rough, but seriously the rest of the people here seem a little too soft-skinned.

I've seen like two or three polls so far on forums with huge yes votes still getting held back by two or three "naysayers" who want to play hardcore all day everyday. Upsetting as a new player on p99 to see "population" vs "heavy weight pro eq players (aka poopsocking internet accessed cave trolls) polls that are obviously in favor of population vote and most just discarded because four or five people say "Oh no, bad words will be used in a game for adults." (or the likes of that type of rebuttal)

SamwiseRed
01-26-2012, 02:02 PM
yellow text, global ooc, delete exploited dragon loot confirmed to be what the community wants

Grozmok
01-26-2012, 02:15 PM
Seems a bit too much like mom refusing to let kids eat sugared cereal. @AmelindapullingaUSgovernment move.

Being a guide, and being an over controlling mom are very different. I think, unfortunately that you may have crossed over into the over controlling mom a while ago due to the nature of the job and having to deal with the vz/tz people. Control the amount of cheating/exploiting/wrongdoing in that notion and most "drama" will subside. No need to be homeland security and the CIA of EQ.

Yeah, insult someone trying to support the community. That sounds like a good idea.

Tombom
01-26-2012, 02:16 PM
yellow text, global ooc, delete exploited dragon loot confirmed to be what the community wants

Samwise, a man the people can get behind

Andis
01-26-2012, 02:19 PM
ive been shooting for global ooc and YELLOW text from the start of this server................

SamwiseRed
01-26-2012, 02:20 PM
ive been shooting for global ooc and YELLOW text from the start of this server................

alot of people have. you must be new. welcome to the forums

Shweet
01-26-2012, 02:21 PM
Yeah, insult someone trying to support the community. That sounds like a good idea.

Sigh, point of post missed. Was not to insult but to simply say there is being a gm and making sure the game is run correctly and that people disrupting gameplay are taken care of. Policing every curse word or racial slur that would get thrown in ooc is a bit ridiculous, and not only that its extremely tedious and takes away from progress of fixing real bugs. Words are words and if you can't read them and not get offended over a video game you obviously haven't "grown up."

SamwiseRed
01-26-2012, 02:25 PM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b174/kormer/PF.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b174/kormer/torch.jpg
and delete dragon lewts

Grozmok
01-26-2012, 02:39 PM
Sigh, point of post missed. Was not to insult but to simply say there is being a gm and making sure the game is run correctly and that people disrupting gameplay are taken care of. Policing every curse word or racial slur that would get thrown in ooc is a bit ridiculous, and not only that its extremely tedious and takes away from progress of fixing real bugs. Words are words and if you can't read them and not get offended over a video game you obviously haven't "grown up."

Agreed.

Arillious
01-26-2012, 02:52 PM
If turning it on nets the server 10-20 more active members then I'm for it. However, I think the people that quit because this feature wasnt on will probably just quit again over something else equally as retarded

rulezgetbent
01-26-2012, 02:52 PM
dont add it, and dont let the spoiled vztz-ers push you around.

first its global ooc. then its yellow text. then its boxing. then what? then the community you really want will be gone, and whats left will have destroyed the server so bad that it goes down in flames. like the vztz server did.

Shweet
01-26-2012, 03:03 PM
dont add it, and dont let the spoiled vztz-ers push you around.

first its global ooc. then its yellow text. then its boxing. then what? then the community you really want will be gone, and whats left will have destroyed the server so bad that it goes down in flames. like the vztz server did.

Community you really want? Does that include posters like you who come in with no logic to your post whatsoever saying, "no no no," with no valid points at all?

The people a pvp server wants is the community that pvps and does it often, not some poopsocking pve nerds that only pve once they're fully geared ,buffed, and ready to go stomp some newbs farming. The population is saying yes to global ooc and yellow text because it facilitates pvp and community.

Yes it also facilitates trolls and the chance of spam/badwords (omg) but if I see someone good get pvp'd in x zone and I am on and looking for pvp I will head that way. Not to mention how much fun it was to see a big pvp name get yellowtexted.(see Xantile / Rexx / Bombfist / gongshow )

Obviously you don't want your name yellowtexted and coined put in someones sig or something to that nature.

Palemoon
01-26-2012, 03:35 PM
we do not need global /ooc

You mention racial slurs, but what about homophobic and sexist slurs too? This is 2012 and I for one dont want to play a game with a constant scroll of "faggot got dirtnapped" spamming the bottom half of my screen.

I dunno, I just see this driving away the (admittedly minority) mature players and then the server will just be a brown cesspool of UMADS, and nothing like 1999 rallos zek.

You know, everyone knows, its gonna be 24/7 rants n' flames material in global /ooc This will be giving some of the most dismal trolls on the internet a feast.

Bkab
01-26-2012, 03:42 PM
^ no one cares go away

Rykk
01-26-2012, 03:46 PM
this server is already entirely a UMAD bro? server so palemoon u apparently have no clue what's going on.


at least with a global chat it won't be a ghost town

Oadina
01-26-2012, 03:53 PM
this server is already entirely a UMAD bro? server so palemoon u apparently have no clue what's going on.


at least with a global chat it won't be a ghost town

I don't think that's entirely true.. it's just that the 'UMAD bro?" people think they are the only ones here, and are the most vocal.. there are quite a few people that play, that prefer to fly a little lower under the radar :)

Amelinda
01-26-2012, 03:57 PM
Seems a bit too much like mom refusing to let kids eat sugared cereal. @AmelindapullingaUSgovernment move.

Being a guide, and being an over controlling mom are very different. I think, unfortunately that you may have crossed over into the over controlling mom a while ago due to the nature of the job and having to deal with the vz/tz people.

LOL. I'm not being an overcontrolling mom. I am simply supporting and enforcing the server rules that were set forth at the get go. The part in the quote of my previous post about no racial slurs being tolerated etc. that's from the server rules post under the library for blue - and that applies to red as well.

You can think i'm being overcontrolling all you want. BUT the deal is that I am here to help enforce and uphold the rules.

I respect the management of the server (nilbog and rogean) and i respect the rules of the server and will be upholding them and my guides will be doing that as well.

Sigh, point of post missed. Was not to insult but to simply say there is being a gm and making sure the game is run correctly and that people disrupting gameplay are taken care of. Policing every curse word or racial slur that would get thrown in ooc is a bit ridiculous, and not only that its extremely tedious and takes away from progress of fixing real bugs. Words are words and if you can't read them and not get offended over a video game you obviously haven't "grown up."

There are children who play this game. it's not 18 and up. Plus seriously. it's not necessary to call people the n-word to further your enjoyment of the game.


and delete dragon lewts

Samwise: STFU about the dragon loots. I'm sick to death of hearing about it. These ARE going to be removed as soon as I get a chance. so if you wanna bitch about the dragon loot then send me pm's. k?

Tassador
01-26-2012, 04:00 PM
can we use global ooc to talk about school and life too?

Vile
01-26-2012, 04:02 PM
can we use global ooc to talk about school and life too?

just for weed talk

Tassador
01-26-2012, 04:04 PM
got fire connects 305 are code hit me up.

Bkab
01-26-2012, 04:06 PM
and delete dragon lewts

8]

Shweet
01-26-2012, 04:13 PM
America is just there to enforce and uphold the rules in all the other countries they invade........amirite?

No need to micromanage as hard as these servers do in terms of conduct in the form of text. The people that don't want to hear trolls speaking I am sure know that there is an ignore command and have used it multiple times before. Conduct in the form of programs/sploiting should be heavily monitored and heavily punished if found cheating/breaking/manipulating game mechanics for personal gain. Just makes your job more difficult to attempt to resolve all the issues and then have to deal with the 25 very well versed trolls that this community has under it's bridges.

Instead you could be dealing with issues like charmed npcs not dropping items you handed them when you kill them, 2h dmg being borked, AC is apparently borked. Kedge xp revamped, xp in general revamped. (1-20 was never that time consuming ever) Channeling bugs, resist system people can agree on. Dragon lewts being earned correctly.

Amelinda
01-26-2012, 04:25 PM
Instead you could be dealing with issues like charmed npcs not dropping items you handed them when you kill them, 2h dmg being borked, AC is apparently borked. Kedge xp revamped, xp in general revamped. (1-20 was never that time consuming ever) Channeling bugs, resist system people can agree on. Dragon lewts being earned correctly.

You seem to be VERY confused. let me clear something up for you.

I am a GM. I am not a Developer. So all of this stuff you think that *I* should be worrying with....There's no way i'd have anything to do with that because.

I AM NOT A DEVELOPER.

I am a GM. I handle petitions and take care of players and rules. I do NOT handle any of that stuff up there. Though I am fairly sure that there are several people who can comment here to say that I have actually recently facilitated taking care of quite a few issues.

I realize you have YOUR vision of how the server should be. and that's great!!

But this server is NILBOG's baby. so it's HIS vision that matters. And HIS VISION includes certain rules.

KTHX.

Lulz Sect
01-26-2012, 04:29 PM
PraIS

Lulz Sect
01-26-2012, 04:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/H4iD1.gif

Lulz Sect
01-26-2012, 04:33 PM
PrAIS CT

SamwiseRed
01-26-2012, 04:39 PM
Trolled getin trolled by troll guide. Mi mii mii minecraft time

The Revanchist
01-26-2012, 04:47 PM
they duh duh duh deleted the guild

IronLikeALionInZion
01-26-2012, 04:49 PM
i love that the people who troll these forums and act like fools are mostly the ones for it. the main reason its bad is because its pvp. its like no Fog of War in an RTS, few people are going to be attracted to this server. i think the older it gets, the cheaper items become, the higher availiabilty of ports will help. and xp bonus on certian days would be cool, but not always. Lets keep it classic guys.

Amelinda
01-26-2012, 04:50 PM
Trolled getin trolled by troll guide. Mi mii mii minecraft time

Where am I trolling?

Shweet
01-26-2012, 04:55 PM
I am a GM. I am not a babysitter.

KTHX.

Fixed for you.

You seem to be very defensive when I am simply stating that your time would be better spent doing other things rather than detailed monitoring and making sure racial/sexual/whateverotherstupidkindofsluryoucouldimagineherex4 don't go into chat. (especially when an /ignore and badword filter are in the game)

A GM event is something that draws communities together, custom things that aren't game breakingly rewarding or hard are always a benefit for the server. Those could be nice to see, but instead policing chat channels is probably above it in terms of priority.

Nilbog does a fantastic job on providing us with a great server that rivals the game of 1999 very closely. You may not be a developer but once again all I have been saying is that your time could be better used elsewhere rather than policing chat. Like assisting the majority public's voice to be heard and looked out for by the devs instead of the hardcore poopsockers making the decisions. Maybe even learning a little bit of coding? ;)

Amelinda
01-26-2012, 05:02 PM
A GM event is something that draws communities together, custom things that aren't game breakingly rewarding or hard are always a benefit for the server. Those could be nice to see, but instead policing chat channels is probably above it in terms of priority.



Well all i'm gonna say at this pt is that it's up to me and rogean how i spend my time.

you also have no idea how i'd monitor chat - you act like that's all i'd be doing period. ever.

i multi task quite well

you are welcome to your opinion and to have your own thoughts.

and seriously - learning coding?

Rogean and Nilbog will BOTH attest to the fact that i already BUST My ass for this server and do a ton of work for the server. coding also would be too much for something that is merely a hobby.

Also: I already know how to code. My energy just goes elsewhere.

Shweet
01-26-2012, 05:10 PM
you also have no idea how i'd monitor chat - you act like that's all i'd be doing period. ever.


Let guilds and players monitor chat, talk shit get shit on or vice versa. Most guild don't enjoy the 14 year old spouting comments into public channels because it makes their whole guild look 14 and like they have no control over their members.

With the amount of trolls and the amount of slurs/comments/awfulthings they say you probably would end up being on chat watch 24/7 and end up hating life because of it.

More so than the whole global ooc I was speaking for the fact that the majority vote is almost always posting against the hardcore nerds AND the gm's on this server. Which seems rather conflicting and rather confusing ESPECIALLY to new players.

Salty
01-26-2012, 05:15 PM
you also have no idea how i'd monitor chat - you act like that's all i'd be doing period. ever.


I'm waiting for the first couple bans due to OOC trolling.

Shweet
01-26-2012, 05:17 PM
I'm waiting for the first couple bans due to OOC trolling.

$200 Says its Cast, in EC, with the N word.

Lovely
01-26-2012, 05:26 PM
Voting yes for the sake of the server!

Lulz Sect
01-26-2012, 05:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/KZKHn.jpg

Zallar
01-26-2012, 05:43 PM
I wouldn't mind it as long as we can /report people who abuse it. The report feature will still snag the chat box and the trolls/abusers can suffer the consequences.

Null
01-26-2012, 05:45 PM
I don't care either way.

But if it goes in, it should print some mix of Class/Level/Zone/Loc in the message.

Not_Kazowi
01-26-2012, 05:46 PM
make ooc global, and only ban a few racial slurs. freedom of speech is imperative for a pvp server.


vztz did it big on ooc, provided a lot of good times and funnies.

just add a spam filter so people cant flood the channel. simple as that

Producer
01-26-2012, 05:51 PM
yellow text, delete exploited dragon loot confirmed to be what the community wants

the only thing I agree with ^ in this statement even if I hate to admit samwise is right

Smedy
01-26-2012, 05:52 PM
I don't care either way.

But if it goes in, it should print some mix of Class/Level/Zone/Loc in the message.

thats a very intredasting take on it, it could really spice things up.

if you wanna talk shit in ooc, you're giving away your loc, class level and zone, pretty dope idea imo

the only issue i would see with this is that the ooc chat would be spammed with

Smedy - 50 Dwarf Paladin - Kaladim - y325.242 x 252.3215 z 53.32 : sup naggers

To much text imo, if you can shrink it somehow i dno.. like the idea tho

maybe just include level and zone

Producer
01-26-2012, 05:53 PM
I don't care either way.

But if it goes in, it should print some mix of Class/Level/Zone/Loc in the message.

for a dev thats a dumb move lol

CLASS AND LEVEL ? WTF


I say guild and who they killed

IronLikeALionInZion
01-26-2012, 05:54 PM
yellow text i can live with, global ooc i cannot. i think that is a very fair compromise.

Producer
01-26-2012, 05:55 PM
To much text imo, if you can shrink it somehow i dno.. like the idea tho
maybe just include level and zone

^ do you really think the population wont drop after that man ? serious question.

Shweet
01-26-2012, 05:58 PM
yellow text i can live with, global ooc i cannot. i think that is a very fair compromise.


I and the majority of the server disagree with your "fair compromise" entirely. Global OOC is one of the best things about the EMU, you don't have to read it if you don't want and certainly don't have to use it to get groups if you don't want to.

Yellow text breeds pvp and thats a fact.

SearyxTZ
01-26-2012, 06:00 PM
People are making way too big of a deal out of the "global ooc will give away my location" thing, which I'm not sure is even a valid concern.

Out of every PvP server I've played on with global OOC (including the live permadeath one), I don't think I've ever seen a scenario of some player attempting to hide who gets ratted out and killed because of the chat.

Everyone already knows the high level people are going to be in one of like two zones.

Lulz Sect
01-26-2012, 06:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/WHw5G.jpg

Shweet
01-26-2012, 06:08 PM
Big jesus takes the handoff.

tshakur
01-26-2012, 06:28 PM
there is no "fair compromise" between a good idea and a bad idea

yellow text stands on its own as obviously the right move to make, as does global OOC

Harrison
01-26-2012, 06:34 PM
I don't care either way.

But if it goes in, it should print some mix of Class/Level/Zone/Loc in the message.

Restricted to 6+ too

Null
01-26-2012, 06:42 PM
for a dev thats a dumb move lol

CLASS AND LEVEL ? WTF


I say guild and who they killed

I meant for OOC not for Yellow Text.

Autotune
01-26-2012, 06:51 PM
make typing in OOC flag you avail for pvp regardless of lvl bracket as well as give away the zone you're in. Combat those lvl 1 /ooc spammers imo.

Harrison
01-26-2012, 06:58 PM
make typing in OOC flag you avail for pvp regardless of lvl bracket as well as give away the zone you're in. Combat those lvl 1 /ooc spammers imo.

No one cares about their level one being killed...just restrict it to 6+ and when they get banned it will cost them time. Of course, the fatslob neckbeard doing it over and over leveling to 6 just to spam can't be stopped, but it's better than letting these inbreds do it from 1 onward freely.

Humerox
01-26-2012, 07:23 PM
It is important to look at the BIG picture.

I agree. Enabling OOC and YT is going to draw what type of player to the server? What type of player is going to be turned off by the idea? Do we want a more VZTZ type of experience as a draw, or do we want alternatives to draw other types of players?

Also, if you do implement it and think for a minute that you're going to effectively moderate it without someone sitting in the channel 24/7...you're going to be heartbroken.

I understand why people want it and why people don't. I'll play either way. But think very hard about the BIG picture before anything is done.

Autotune
01-26-2012, 07:38 PM
No one cares about their level one being killed...just restrict it to 6+ and when they get banned it will cost them time. Of course, the fatslob neckbeard doing it over and over leveling to 6 just to spam can't be stopped, but it's better than letting these inbreds do it from 1 onward freely.

ah, there we go. Put a lvl restriction on it and flag them for unrestricted pvp for 5mins after each comment posted in global ooc.

rulezgetbent
01-26-2012, 07:50 PM
Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward.

Global OOC did not exist on live vz/tz/rz server in 1999 or onward.

IronLikeALionInZion
01-26-2012, 07:51 PM
lvl 32 paladin very nicely equipped can be /roll for day one this goes into effect. thought this was a classic server. with the exploits, the hand holding, and shit server is going to hell. yellow text, cool. Irc chat for finding groups, understood. Global ooc ruining classical immersion because people want to cause drama, troll, and find groups?

BRAD WOULD BE PISSED!

Palemoon
01-26-2012, 08:07 PM
Thats basically it though isint it? The trolls who want global /ooc are the same ones who don't really like EQ, just EQ's unique enviorment that allows a metric ton of grief on others.

They dont want global /ooc so "they can find groups" they want global /ooc so they can take their evergrief to a new level.

Some of us here love Everquest. The world, the game system, etc. The pvp adds to it.

Then there are the bros that just like the platform to cause grief. They are the ones that are constantly taking dumps on EQ's "PvE" and "grind".

Someone just open up a new VZTZ for them, and leave the rest of us to enjoy a traditional 1999 rallos zek server without them.

IronLikeALionInZion
01-26-2012, 08:10 PM
i support the above poster

Rikimeru
01-26-2012, 08:12 PM
stop putting more non classic crap on this server!

Harrison
01-26-2012, 08:24 PM
Thats basically it though isint it? The trolls who want global /ooc are the same ones who don't really like EQ, just EQ's unique enviorment that allows a metric ton of grief on others.

They dont want global /ooc so "they can find groups" they want global /ooc so they can take their evergrief to a new level.

Some of us here love Everquest. The world, the game system, etc. The pvp adds to it.

Then there are the bros that just like the platform to cause grief. They are the ones that are constantly taking dumps on EQ's "PvE" and "grind".

Someone just open up a new VZTZ for them, and leave the rest of us to enjoy a traditional 1999 rallos zek server without them.

Best post. Vztz failed. Keep its shit out.

purist 3.0
01-26-2012, 09:06 PM
The 109 people who want global /ooc voted yes in an overwhelming majority, I'm bitter that basketball is gonna happen if put in

purist 3.0
01-26-2012, 09:09 PM
motion to strike down vote of obese, biter, middle-aged deli meat slicer that is too scared to play on server

Rykk
01-26-2012, 09:11 PM
seriously what the hell is wrong with some of you? The server is already not classic, and IT IS already full of brosufs adding global ooc to a server that is dying is not going to kill it. HOWEVER doing nothing to the server will cause it to be dead with in the next couple months..... enjoy your "classic experience" because you loved to grind for 100 + hours and explore an empty server......

Shweet
01-26-2012, 09:17 PM
Enabling OOC and YT is going to draw what type of player to the server? What type of player is going to be turned off by the idea? Do we want a more VZTZ type of experience as a draw, or do we want alternatives to draw other types of players?


Really, what kind of players is Global OOC and YT going to draw?

I think at best it would draw Smedy that would be the, "draw." Stop treating this thing like it is changing the server to non-legit or something.

To speak of this thing like it is changing the server over to using hello kitty player models is ridiculous. You sound like a concerned parent worried that the ability to speak to the whole server in ooc and the ability to see who was slain in whatever zone (probably the zone you're not in due to fear of actual pvp) will ruin everything this game ever stood for.

Sad.

RIP World communication and YT providing us with knowledge of who is making the big plays on r99.

El Culo
01-26-2012, 09:56 PM
poll really should be public so we can strike off all of harrison and zionlion's troll accounts

Rikimeru
01-26-2012, 10:05 PM
if you put zone info in yellow text is gonna lead to a lot of corpsecamping. there is a reason they added the little respawn zone off of pok on live when they added yellow text, to stop corpsecamping. other than being annoying spam yt shouldnt be bad as long as you dont put zone info into it.

Humerox
01-26-2012, 10:26 PM
if you put zone info in yellow text is gonna lead to a lot of corpsecamping. there is a reason they added the little respawn zone off of pok on live when they added yellow text, to stop corpsecamping. other than being annoying spam yt shouldnt be bad as long as you dont put zone info into it.

good point there

Fangorn
01-26-2012, 10:50 PM
Definite no, can do without awful lifeless and unoriginal meme spamming forum trolls, who do nothing but copy and repeat each other at every turn. That is what ooc will be a constant stream of, garbage. It will also cause more headache than GMs believe, something else to think about.

Rykk
01-26-2012, 10:55 PM
fangorn you apparently haven't logged on recently... it takes forever to find a group or people period, unless you're part of one of the 3 main guilds on the server or already in the 40's

Harrison
01-26-2012, 10:55 PM
poll really should be public so we can strike off all of harrison and zionlion's troll accounts

This kid rerolls accounts like it's his job, and thinks others are that pathetic...rofl

rulezgetbent
01-26-2012, 10:56 PM
you already have global ooc. its called IRC. and everyone who wants global ooc is probably already in IRC. you want yellow text? log into the IRC channel, and type "I killed <soandso>"

El Culo
01-26-2012, 11:04 PM
lol ever notice how troll accounts post right after harrison, and sound just like him

http://jimdrake.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/tin-foil_365.jpg

purist 3.0
01-26-2012, 11:06 PM
adding global ooc to a server that is dying is not going to kill it. HOWEVER doing nothing to the server will cause it to be dead with in the next couple months..... enjoy your "classic experience" because you loved to grind for 100 + hours and explore an empty server......

Fangorn
01-26-2012, 11:21 PM
I feel bad for the GMs who are going to have to deal with the ensuing drama bombs caused by global OOC. It is going to make their job that much more difficult. They will end up having to babysit and police chat, and they will also have to deal with whatever drama it will inevitably cause. Boring forum trolls want global so they can bring their boring forum trolling to OOC in-game.

Also, there is no global ooc on blue, and hasn't been for over 2 years.

Rykk
01-26-2012, 11:49 PM
fangorn you still just don't get it do you..... blue has 500+ people while red has between 115-180 at most so please shut up and stop posting. You honestly sound like you don't play the game at all

purist 3.0
01-26-2012, 11:52 PM
I feel bad for the GMs who are going to have to deal with the ensuing drama bombs caused by global OOC. It is going to make their job that much more difficult. They will end up having to babysit and police chat, and they will also have to deal with whatever drama it will inevitably cause. Boring forum trolls want global so they can bring their boring forum trolling to OOC in-game.

Also, there is no global ooc on blue, and hasn't been for over 2 years.

you are a scaremongering retard

we had global ooc in red99 beta for 2+ months with a population 3 times what it is now, and no GMs had to police jack shit

stop posting

Tombom
01-27-2012, 12:06 AM
lol ever notice how troll accounts post right after harrison, and sound just like him

http://jimdrake.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/tin-foil_365.jpg

There are SO many harrison troll accounts i lost track, used to have a good list going but it got deleted by the FBI

fiegi
01-27-2012, 12:14 AM
lol ever notice how troll accounts post right after harrison, and sound just like him

http://jimdrake.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/tin-foil_365.jpg

http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/11/11894/12179492.jpg

Harrison
01-27-2012, 12:21 AM
The funny part here is that I think that troll post will hook about 15 of you, easily.

I think the last "Troll account" I've made was in response to a Guineapiggin'

El Culo
01-27-2012, 12:26 AM
I think every "Troll account" I've made was in response to a Guineapiggin'

ftfME

Harrison
01-27-2012, 12:30 AM
I suppose you got me there. Doesn't make it any less sad you're on account #74 now, though.

My suspensions were completely uncalled for. My only ban was for saying the word "retarded" in rants and flames, seriously.

Srs Not Ames
01-27-2012, 12:51 AM
112 : 53


Lets do this bro's

tshakur
01-27-2012, 12:52 AM
112 : 53


Lets do this bro's

Fangorn
01-27-2012, 12:59 AM
fangorn you still just don't get it do you..... blue has 500+ people while red has between 115-180 at most so please shut up and stop posting. You honestly sound like you don't play the game at all

It is never easy to find a random group outside of your guild on FFA servers. Has always been like that, but I guess you just want things made easier for you. I am basing all of that on your previous reply. Your only reason for global OOC is that it may be "easier for low levels to find groups." Maybe they should join a guild, or join IRC.

Fangorn
01-27-2012, 01:02 AM
you are a scaremongering retard

we had global ooc in red99 beta for 2+ months with a population 3 times what it is now, and no GMs had to police jack shit

stop posting

Very doubtful, you probably suffer from selective memory. Also, nobody really cares about beta. Let guides decide for themselves if they think global is worth the hassle.

purist 3.0
01-27-2012, 01:03 AM
can some1 catalogue names of all niggies crying in thread so we can broadcast their location in global ooc when its put in

purist 3.0
01-27-2012, 01:05 AM
Very doubtful, you probably suffer from selective memory. Also, nobody really cares about beta. Let guides decide for themselves if they think global is worth the hassle.

u obviously didnt play on beta so your "doubt" means jack diddly

and the guides already did decide for themselves to make this poll which the overhwhelming majority voted YES in favor of

how mad are u?

Stfu
01-27-2012, 01:07 AM
Neither global chat or yellow text should be implemented. The real pvp and battles are won on the front line. Not in any amount of text. Or shit talk.

rexx told me that once
01-27-2012, 01:07 AM
Also, nobody really cares about beta.

what do you think ur playing right now?

heh heh heh

Fangorn
01-27-2012, 01:09 AM
can some1 catalogue names of all niggies crying in thread so we can broadcast their location in global ooc when its put in

Hopefully guides have enough sense to keep it out, they should know better than to put it in with this community (mainly the vztz crowd).


Neither global chat or yellow text should be implemented. The real pvp and battles are won on the front line. Not in any amount of text. Or shit talk.

I fully agree.

purist 3.0
01-27-2012, 01:09 AM
Neither global chat or yellow text should be implemented. The real pvp and battles are won on the front line. Not in any amount of text. Or shit talk.

shit talk essential part of pvp always has been always will be dont like it? blue server's that way ---->

Fangorn
01-27-2012, 01:15 AM
u obviously didnt play on beta so your "doubt" means jack diddly

and the guides already did decide for themselves to make this poll which the overhwhelming majority voted YES in favor of

how mad are u?

Boring forum trolls such as yourself overwhelmingly voted yes, so you can all enjoy spamming OOC with "how mad are u" and the like non-stop. You have nothing interesting to say.

Fangorn
01-27-2012, 01:15 AM
shit talk essential part of pvp always has been always will be dont like it? blue server's that way ---->

Oh, was global OOC part of live red servers? No.

tshakur
01-27-2012, 01:25 AM
pop also wasnt 150

Fangorn
01-27-2012, 01:28 AM
pop also wasnt 150

Wanting global OOC because "shit talk is essential for pvp" is a pretty awful reason, since global was never required on any live server in order for pvp to occur.

rulezgetbent
01-27-2012, 01:28 AM
pop also wasnt 150

there were times when they were.

The Revanchist
01-27-2012, 01:45 AM
there were times when they were.

not on live

Stfu
01-27-2012, 01:52 AM
shit talk essential part of pvp always has been always will be dont like it? blue server's that way ---->

I agree that shit talk has been always a part of the PVP, but it shouldn't be a global intrinsic function of the game.

It was flashy for VZTZ. Ultimately though it ruins the fundamental experience when you have all these Epenis battles. Its degrading. People shouldn't be publicly ridiculed in open chat incessantly.

purist 3.0
01-27-2012, 02:20 AM
i see lots of mad children who are scared of basketball happening

news flash: the guides of the server put it up for poll, the overwhelming majority of the population voted YES in favor of by a landslide margin

don't like it?

blue server's that way ---->

Tombom
01-27-2012, 02:43 AM
Basketballaphobics

SearyxTZ
01-27-2012, 02:50 AM
Ready for basketball if Queen Amelinda ends the lockout.

http://www.pulsemed.org/michael-jordan-sneaker.jpg

Autotune
01-27-2012, 02:52 AM
Poll is already confirmed a lie.

180+ total votes?

You're telling me that the overwhelming majority of the people that play on red99 have come here to vote on this?

Allow me to vote 442 times on my ridiculously absurd amount of troll accounts I have created for myself.

Srs Not Ames
01-27-2012, 02:56 AM
Poll is already confirmed a lie.

180+ total votes?

You're telling me that the overwhelming majority of the people that play on red99 have come here to vote on this?

Allow me to vote 442 times on my ridiculously absurd amount of troll accounts I have created for myself.

You don't play on red so why do you care?


+1 post count i guess bro

IronLikeALionInZion
01-27-2012, 02:58 AM
i love how the people who are for it have one repetative line they repeat. yet everyone who is hesitant for it can argue there opinion intelligently. just look at some of these peoples signatures, and profile pictures, and previous posts. these people arent here for immersion of classic red pvp. there here to engage in unclassic like activities and want to use thier forum reputations to sway the direction of the server to their liking.

THE STAFF HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. THIS IS WHAT THEY DECIDED. ALL THESE BIG TOUGH GUYS ARE JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE WHINING TO GET THEIR OWN WAY.

tshakur
01-27-2012, 03:01 AM
i love how the people who are for it have one repetative line they repeat. yet everyone who is hesitant for it can argue there opinion intelligently. just look at some of these peoples signatures, and profile pictures, and previous posts. these people arent here for immersion of classic red pvp. there here to engage in unclassic like activities and want to use thier forum reputations to sway the direction of the server to their liking.

THE STAFF HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. THIS IS WHAT THEY DECIDED. ALL THESE BIG TOUGH GUYS ARE JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE WHINING TO GET THEIR OWN WAY.

Classic red pvp was 20 ppl in gfay shit talking. Since there's only 1 person there now i'd say global ooc is a closer emulation of the classic experience.

rest of your post not worth reading

IronLikeALionInZion
01-27-2012, 03:09 AM
tshakur is a known anti-classicite

Pudge
01-27-2012, 03:51 AM
i think there should be some kinda of compromise. ONE global OOC allowed per in-game day. so ppl have to make their OOC count - no spamming or shit talking for 15 minutes across the entire server. (for levels 10+ only)

or: 1 global OOC per kill of someone in-range to you (levels 10+ only)
or: 1 global OOC per in-game day, + 1 global OOC for every 100 plat you give to a vendor to buy a "global shout out" or whatever.
or: some other creative way to severely limit the amount of OOC garbage that ppl will undoubtedly creat. if it's unlimited global OOC, there will just be shit talking/griefing ppl off the server.

i loved global ooc, but just a couple tards in ooc make the game look horrible to newcomers, and ppl with thinner skin. i say leave it OUT unless something is there to limit it. (maybe only global ooc during a certain time of day in-game? or when a special event happens or something? i dont know just trying to throw out ideas

Not_Kazowi
01-27-2012, 04:15 AM
You nerds are making this such a bigger deal than it is. Enable OOC, make it so you can only make 5 emotes every 30 seconds or something. Simple as that. None of this flagging people or location bullshit, I mean its fucking chat? This is only going to BOOST interest and player base, it brings a sense of community and liveliness to the server. When I logged on last it seemed pretty vapid and hollow, especially in zones that no one hangs out in anymore.

Anyone against this is a super fag and probably plays from grandmahs basement.

http://mediadb.kicker.de/news/1000/1020/36000/artikel/722486/nowitzki_dunk3-1268900233_zoom29_crop_600x450_600x450+0+88.jpg

purist 3.0
01-27-2012, 04:29 AM
"GUYS! NO! MAKE IT SO YOU CAN ONLY HAIL PEOPLE ONCE EVERY IN-GAME DAY, AND YOU HAVE TO BE LEVEL 10 TO DO IT, THIS WILL BRING DOWN SPAM. THE SPAM WILL KILL THE SERVER!"

El Culo
01-27-2012, 04:30 AM
The Emperor has spoken.