Make training legal

[Slathar]

Training is going to happen if GMs like it or not. Make it legal and avoid yourselves the headache of having to watch raids or fraps from some wheelchair-bound mongoloid crying to GMs hoping to remove their only competition from the server.

[The Revanchist]

slathar's only hope of being considered competition is training

[Harrison]

slathar's only hope of being considered competition is training

QFT

[Slathar]

slathar's only hope of being considered competition is training

[Harrison]

Didn't read terribad DA druid's post, confirmed bad and needs to train in pvp to keep up. Bad.

[Bkab]

slathar's only hope of being considered competition is training

[Nirgon]

I think the real issue is enforcement of rules once plane of fear/hate etc go live.

Both sides are going to be calling for GM enforcement of trains.

Can't really have officers keep an eye on every single person and expect them not to do it in a 20 v 20 fight. Something for the better of red and blue would have to be implemented to keep shit accountable.

Then again how does one account for someone running into a house in hate they think is unpopulated, getting 3-4 mobs on them, then running out and gating by accident?

Things that should definitely be discussed :P.

Making training legal isn't my first option.

[jibekn]

I'm for making training legal, holocaust trained me 6 times while they were around and I always wanted to return the favor but was too scared to break the rules

[Bkab]

lol i remember training the fuck out of u right after we stole ur guise of the deciever as a group of lvl 30s from a lvl 50 mage heh heh good times

[jibekn]

lol i remember training the fuck out of u right after we stole ur guise of the deciever as a group of lvl 30s from a lvl 50 mage heh heh good times

[Nirgon]

Truth is we can't have rules that cannot be enforced floating around.

I'd say the only way to do it is a straight up ban for anyone caught doing it very intentionally. If that's the hard and fast rule, so be it.

Otherwise, there's enough dispute (why should there be any) over blatantly trained shit/exploited mobs. I'm not sure we need to add grey areas like who trained what in plane of fear or if it was by accident. It's a fucking zone crammed with very hostile mobs that proc shadowsteps and have a huge social radius...

If you ask for legal training, know what you're wishing for, a pop killer.

Best case is going to be if someone is very blatantly caught doing it, ban. As for grey areas? I guess there's the risk factor of someone trying to do it "by accident (trololololol)" and owning their own guild or themselves with said mobs.

[Bkab]

there is a fraps of it that's pretty funny will try to find the link

[jibekn]

Truth is we can't have rules that cannot be enforced floating around.

I'd say the only way to do it is a straight up ban for anyone caught doing it very intentionally. If that's the hard and fast rule, so be it.

Otherwise, there's enough dispute (why should there be any) over blatantly trained shit/exploited mobs. I'm not sure we need to add grey areas like who trained what in plane of fear or if it was by accident. It's a fucking zone crammed with very hostile mobs that proc shadowsteps and have a huge social radius...

If you ask for legal training, know what you're wishing for, a pop killer.

Best case is going to be if someone is very blatantly caught doing it, ban. As for grey areas? I guess there's the risk factor of someone trying to do it "by accident (trololololol)" and owning their own guild or themselves with said mobs.


I completely agree with you nirgon. We can start with banning bkab for admitting to training me in lower guk at the guise camp. I actually already posted to the gm's screenshots of when it happened so they have it handy on file. He actually just admitted to it earliar in this thread.

[Bkab]

http://thoughtcatalog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Bethlehem-20110311-00129.jpeg

[Nirgon]

Bkab must confess his crimes before the Emperor if these screen shots are found to be valid.

Truth is however, we need a hard and fast, set in stone rule that says what is permissible as evidence and what isn't. We already have enough problems with some of the rules here being argued over that are clearly defined (um why). What we don't need is one that says "evidence of" without clearly defining is acceptable evidence and what is not, if anything is to be accepted from players at all.

[jibekn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HcXcYlF3_0

[Filthed]

Training is going to happen if GMs like it or not. Make it legal and avoid yourselves the headache of having to watch raids or fraps from some wheelchair-bound mongoloid crying to GMs hoping to remove their only competition from the server.

fat

[Slathar]

fat

[Harrison]

lol i remember training the fuck out of u right after we stole ur guise of the deciever as a group of lvl 30s from a lvl 50 mage heh heh good times

Holobads admit to training on top of admitting to exploiting. Holobad lost Red99, January, 2012

[fiegi]

someone really pissed harrison off that he swings off the nuts so much even tho he doesn't dare to play pvp

[Nirgon]

I tried to make a rogue pk twink named Harrison to kill/troll/grief potential oor healers in the future, name was taken.

Holobad Nirgon confirmed failed on that day.

[SamwiseRed]

didnt read a single post but training should be legal cuz there is no way in hell you can enforce this shit. besides its pvp, not like you can do something about it like on blue.

[Filthed]

I tried to make a rogue pk twink named Harrison to kill/troll/grief potential oor healers in the future, name was taken.

Holobad Nirgon confirmed failed on that day.

have u ever answered the question of why u use harrisons avatar?

[Snukie]

Training was always legal back in the days and it would be fair since anyone can use it and Staff have one less thing to be botherd with.