Live EQ - what a joke

[eqravenprince]

Here's a few items attainable in live EQ in the newbie grounds off level 1 npcs. Thought maybe some of you needed a good laugh.

Crude Defiant Leather Tunic
MAGIC ITEM ATTUNABLE
Slot: CHEST
AC: 10 STR: +10 DEX: +6 STA: +3 CHA: +2 WIS: +6 INT: +5 AGI: +5 HP: +14 MANA: +13 ENDUR: +14 SV FIRE: +1 SV DISEASE: +1 SV COLD: +1 SV MAGIC: +2 SV POISON: +1

Crude Defiant Leather Trousers
Slot: LEGS
AC: 8 STR: +3 DEX: +8 STA: +6 CHA: +9 WIS: +6 INT: +4 AGI: +2 HP: +13 MANA: +13 ENDUR: +12 SV FIRE: +1 SV DISEASE: +1 SV COLD: +1 SV MAGIC: +1 SV POISON: +1

Crude Defiant Leather Sleeves
Slot: ARMS
AC: 6 STR: +9 DEX: +3 STA: +5 CHA: +9 WIS: +6 INT: +1 AGI: +7 HP: +8 MANA: +9 ENDUR: +9 SV FIRE: +1 SV DISEASE: +1 SV COLD: +2 SV MAGIC: +1 SV POISON: +1

[eqravenprince]

This is better than Wu's armor which is about the best gear I will have as a Monk until probably my 50's. And it's dropping at level 1.

[Raavak]

EQ Live jumped the shark long ago...

[inyane]

considering the higher level casters have over 40k hps and mana, these level 1 items
not so fabulous :)

[Lanuven]

http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/character_profile.vm?characterId=532575960608

and i havent played in over 6 months..

[joppykid]

http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/character_profile.vm?characterId=532575960608

and i havent played in over 6 months..

Well it does say last login Nov 22nd, 2011 haha. Not that it matters though. The stats your ranger has are insane lol.

[The Revanchist]

Stat inflation happens to any game, and with 90 levels you're gonna need nice gear to get you off your feet and leveling

Not that I like live, I hate it because they want me to buy 4 expansions for me to even be able to level past 65 (mercs are like required any more, no one around for groups)

[Bruman]

Yeah, people are shocked that an 11 year old game about numbers now gives more numbers?

[Epictroll]

lol i'm unsure who's the one that's doing the laughing D:

[Daldaen]

http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/character_profile.vm?characterId=618475292349

EQPlayers broke. About a year agoish. It hasn't updated since the newest expansion :/.

[Shweet]

Dald is bad @ live, can't even kill that one trial...completely didn't even try to charm ^_^

[Happyfeet]

"Lunamelioration" eh dald?
They're really struggling to think of new spell names lol.

[maahes]

considering the higher level casters have over 40k hps and mana, these level 1 items
not so fabulous :)

Eactly! Necoro's with 40k plus HPs. LOL

[Pscottdai]

lol, your off there - a guildie of mine on live is a necro and has over 70k HP raid buffed. In fact our guild requires new apps to have a min of 40K hp to even consider applying.

[bakkily]

shit i havnt played eqlive since 2004 with oow, got my rog to lvl 69 before i quit, is lvl 100 the highest lvl now?

[Daldaen]

"Lunamelioration" eh dald?
They're really struggling to think of new spell names lol.

Yea... And that isn't even the most ridiculous example lol. The 'gift of mana' line is the most retarde one. Each level increase since 70 they added an adverb onto it. I think it is now gift of amazing exquisite dreamlike mana...

[Daldaen]

95 is the highest. And hybrids can get up to 9750ish AAs. Pure Melee cap around 6000ish and casters in the 8000s.

[Sizzle]

This is better than Wu's armor which is about the best gear I will have as a Monk until probably my 50's. And it's dropping at level 1.

Go get cresent armor out of Dalnir, it rapes.

[Yinaltin]

i should not have sold my old char back then for xxxx,00 $ i want him back so badly now :( http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/character_profile.vm?characterId=446676687670

[eqravenprince]

Go get cresent armor out of Dalnir, it rapes.

Wu's has better AC for all the slots I could find for Cresent. What am I missing?

[Bruman]

Wu's has better AC for all the slots I could find for Cresent. What am I missing?

In general, AC isn't the most important stat to a monk. That's not to say it's not important at all, but for pulling people typically focus on resists/sta, and for DPS focus on str (and then dex if you have a procc'ing weapon and str is high)

[Rogean]

You actually have to give EQ Credit for not having bad inflation... when you look at it, 12 years and players still have less than 1k in stats, around 60k hp, weapon damage is around 150'ish iirc? And over time the increases were small.. the later expansions even had set increases for power as percentage based.

And then look at games that came out after EQ.. What's WoW up to for stats, damage, hp? WoW also passed EQ's timeline for obtainable levels rather quickly. Look at SWTOR.. Game just came out.. tanks have almost 20k hp, stats are well into the thousands, weapon damage approaching 1k.

[Bruman]

True, but by the same token, gear is much more inconsequential in EQ than in games like WoW. I mean, there are clutch pieces, no doubt - as a melee, your weapons and your haste item are pretty important. The rest helps, but in a raid situation, your buffs are often going to be more important. Again, not to say gear isn't important at all, but it's rarely a game changer.

Compare that to WoW - getting a single piece of gear, even for random slots, can have a noticeable affect on your DPS. As a monk, if I get a ring or a helmet or blah blah blah, my DPS won't noticeably change.

[Daldaen]

You actually have to give EQ Credit for not having bad inflation... when you look at it, 12 years and players still have less than 1k in stats, around 60k hp, weapon damage is around 150'ish iirc? And over time the increases were small.. the later expansions even had set increases for power as percentage based.

And then look at games that came out after EQ.. What's WoW up to for stats, damage, hp? WoW also passed EQ's timeline for obtainable levels rather quickly. Look at SWTOR.. Game just came out.. tanks have almost 20k hp, stats are well into the thousands, weapon damage approaching 1k.

With heroics well placed casters can break 1000 wisdom/int but barely. Melee easily break dex and str just cause of shaman buffs going overcap.

HP/mana values are in the 2600 realm on each piece of gear at the top tier of raids, 2000ish for the top tier of group content.

Weapon DMG... I play a druid on live so I don't pay much attention to it but ya the highest DMG weapon is a knight 2hander at around 315ish unaugmented. 1handers barely are breaking 100s I think.

All I care about is the underfoot shawl. Wtb a version of that in classic $$$. Velious shawls 3 mana regen is cool but I like the mana return proc on UF shawl.

[eqravenprince]

In general, AC isn't the most important stat to a monk. That's not to say it's not important at all, but for pulling people typically focus on resists/sta, and for DPS focus on str (and then dex if you have a procc'ing weapon and str is high)

I guess AC is to me, anytime my weight goes above 15 and my AC starts dropping, I get hit a lot harder. As a solo monk AC is king.

[Dravingar]

Compare that to WoW - getting a single piece of gear, even for random slots, can have a noticeable affect on your DPS. As a monk, if I get a ring or a helmet or blah blah blah, my DPS won't noticeably change.

Only single slot pieces that are truely noticeable are weapons and possibly trinkets.

[nichomachean]

Power leveling is what makes me sad in EQ Live.

Re-subbed this past spring with the intention of playing my bard (see sig), talked to some old mates of mine from my guild back in 2004, and was delighted to learn they could power level me to insane levels very quickly. Until I got to 84 and couldn't hit a level 50 mob. :D

Must get Titanium, must play P99, I crave the old world EQ experience again.

[Daldaen]

Yea you just have to afk hitting your mercenary in the arena to skill up your weapon skills if you get super PLed.

[nichomachean]

Yea you just have to afk hitting your mercenary in the arena to skill up your weapon skills if you get super PLed.

Nah. I'd much rather shell out 10 bucks to get a used copy of Titanium, roll up on P99, and play a bard the old way. EQ died for me after PoP, insane 45 hour raid schedules, new models, and a new UI. The month my account was active on Live I spent running around on Antonica, Kunark, and Velious reliving the majesty of classic EQ.

And damned if I am not going to find a way to do it again.

[Happyfeet]

Nah. I'd much rather shell out 10 bucks to get a used copy of Titanium, roll up on P99, and play a bard the old way. EQ died for me after PoP, insane 45 hour raid schedules, new models, and a new UI. The month my account was active on Live I spent running around on Antonica, Kunark, and Velious reliving the majesty of classic EQ.

And damned if I am not going to find a way to do it again.

I quit at PoTime, close to when you did. It was a total shit-fest.
$10? Torrents = $0 Don't give your money to those asshats, just donate to p99.

[The Revanchist]

I quit at PoTime, close to when you did. It was a total shit-fest.
$10? Torrents = $0 Don't give your money to those asshats, just donate to p99.

better edit that bud, we're not allowed to openly support torrenting

[nichomachean]

Yeah, I ran with Diligence (www.diligenceguild.com) and after we cleared Quarm, and started into GoD and its wonderful Xadfoijal zones, I just couldn't do it anymore. :cool:

[Daldaen]

Eh post tuning GoD raids were uber. Some pretty unique shit. Inkt'uta cursecallers, txevu zun'muram, uqua gas chambers etc.

I like more complex raids then corner, tank and compensate for fear and another special aoe. Like every classic raid is. And most of that compensation is just stack on resist gear/buffs. Very few times do you need to modify your strat from tank/spank due to named mob effects in classic/kunark.

[Ele]

better edit that bud, we're not allowed to openly support torrenting

Good job quoting the entire post, so his edit doesn't matter.

[SpinFin]

EQ live is just a trip to guild lobby nothingness, or continuous group missions to have any chance at progressing into more content that is laughable with such ugly weapons, not unique clothing appearances, and just overall doesn't feel like adventure at all.

I paid $16 last night to play EQ Live because I am just ACHING to play P99 (Still waiting 4th or 5th day for IP exemption) and thought maybe I would like playing my lv 60 top geared warrior...but then it felt lonely...and I have too much platinum, and a bunch of items that were not 100% classic content. But I luv my weapons which are a combo of VPeak/NToV with beautiful designs.

Didn't even log onto the chars I have that are 80+ range.

I just like the humbleness and adventure and world appearance of the Kunark/Velious days. Better graphics does not always translate into better satisfaction of adventure.

[nichomachean]

Eh post tuning GoD raids were uber. Some pretty unique shit. Inkt'uta cursecallers, txevu zun'muram, uqua gas chambers etc.

I like more complex raids then corner, tank and compensate for fear and another special aoe. Like every classic raid is. And most of that compensation is just stack on resist gear/buffs. Very few times do you need to modify your strat from tank/spank due to named mob effects in classic/kunark.

I think after running full time and full bore through Vex Thal and Planes, while working 20-30 hours a week and doing full time college, I was so exhausted I needed to cut something, and I couldn't quit my job or school. :)

[MelxDruid]

I always had to chuckle at the "starting area" or "noob area" in EQ now a days. Talk about some hand holding pansy action. What happened to falling off of the wood elf city your first minute of the game? Lol. Having to find you way out of a complicated city (neriak, etc)? Alas , they needed up adjust to keep up with the WoW generation.