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bluejam
01-24-2012, 11:51 AM
Mon Jan 23 16:18:06 2012] Severilous says 'Very cute, mortal. Please, please, don't kill me. Hah! Tell me, are you immune to poison? I certainly hope so. I am.'

Me aggroing him with prox (was at max range tho), didn't fear, didn't DD.
Seloing to camp - hit DA quickly cus I thought he might take a sec to AE.

[Mon Jan 23 16:18:06 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:07 2012] Your song ends.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:12 2012] You feel protected.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:12 2012] Your song ends.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:23 2012] You slow down.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:25 2012] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:26 2012] You no longer feel protected.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:27 2012] Your song ends.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:31 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:37 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:43 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:49 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:55 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:58 2012] Severilous scowls at you, ready to attack -- looks like quite a gamble.
[Mon Jan 23 16:19:01 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:05 2012] You resist the Tigir's Insects spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:07 2012] You resist the Dragon Charm spell!'
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:11 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:16 2012] Severilous regains concentration and continues casting.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:16 2012] You resist the Tigir's Insects spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:24 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:29 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:30 2012] Your legs lock in pain as you choke on the noxious poison. You have taken 600 points of damage.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:30 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:36 2012] Severilous regains concentration and continues casting.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:38 2012] You resist the Dragon Roar spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:39 2012] You resist the Dragon Charm spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:43 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:48 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:55 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:00 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:01 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:06 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:07 2012] You resist the Ceticious Cloud spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:08 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:13 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:14 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:19 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:20 2012] You resist the Dragon Roar spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:20 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:25 2012] Severilous regains concentration and continues casting.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:25 2012] You resist the Tigir's Insects spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:35 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:40 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:41 2012] Your legs lock in pain as you choke on the noxious poison. You have taken 600 points of damage.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:42 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:47 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:48 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:53 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:53 2012] Severilous has become ENRAGED.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:54 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:59 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:24:00 2012] You resist the Dragon Roar spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:24:00 2012] Severilous succumbs to the lure of ice.
[Mon Jan 23 16:24:00 2012] Severilous has been slain by Weezard!
[Mon Jan 23 16:24:00 2012] You gain party experience!!

Only 3 AEs? Too low. Also he only dropped two items, no spells. Still charming too, tho he sucks at it.
[Mon Jan 23 16:24:11 2012] Nester says, 'Shield of the Green Dragon, Orb of Tishan'


Can't give any logs for Vox cus I was on a cleric and OOR. Though my group was never hit by the cold AE (others on raid too) and we didn't have a bard nor any fancy CR gear.

Lazortag
01-24-2012, 01:34 PM
I didn't even have to resist an AE today on Vox. She Dragon Roared as usual (and I got feared with 366 MR... can we explain that?)

Randomness plus the fact that Vox was red to you :p

kanras
01-24-2012, 02:58 PM
Same deal as Hoshkar. If there's still issues after next patch, let me know.

Edit: He's supposed to charm.

Trax
01-24-2012, 03:50 PM
No dragon outside of VP is suppose to charm. At all. Not sure where you are getting this information from.

Trax
01-24-2012, 03:51 PM
Also, world dragon recast timers should be 18seconds not 14seconds like Gorenaire was doing last week.

kanras
01-24-2012, 06:08 PM
http://www30.tok2.com/home/redbug/eq/diary/td2.html

kanras
01-24-2012, 06:13 PM
Freezing Breath
Decrease Current Hitpoints by 750 (L1)
Decrease Attack Speed by 70% (L1)


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Classes: None

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Range to Target: 300 feet
Area Effect Range: 200 feet

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Skill: Instantaneous
Allowable Targets: Point Blank AoE

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Resistance Check: Cold

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Spell Duration: 50 ticks (5.0 minutes)
Duration Formula: 7
Recast Delay: 12.0 seconds

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When you cast: You exhale a freezing cone of cold.
When someone casts: Soandso exhales a freezing cone of cold.
Spell cast on you: An icy cold shoots through your body, slowing your movements.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso is slowed by the freezing blast.

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Trax
01-24-2012, 06:59 PM
Recast delay doesn't mean it's instantly cast each time it refreshes. I am digging through some stuff to find further proof, all I have is this horrible video I found but these idiots got fear bombed so I couldn't count off the ticks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaCUoRtDKWc

I will get back with more relevant information.

PS. Use my archived posts to fix EoV and Plane of Sky please.

Trax
01-24-2012, 07:01 PM
http://www30.tok2.com/home/redbug/eq/diary/td2.html

"You resist the Dragon Charm spell!!" from your link.

Then why are we yet to resist a dragon charm on P99? Seems to me resist checks are broken. I've yet to resist a Nexona, Hoshkar AE or Dragon Charm.

Lazortag
01-24-2012, 09:59 PM
"You resist the Dragon Charm spell!!" from your link.

Then why are we yet to resist a dragon charm on P99? Seems to me resist checks are broken. I've yet to resist a Nexona, Hoshkar AE or Dragon Charm.

Now you're just being silly:


[Mon Jan 23 16:18:06 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:07 2012] Your song ends.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:12 2012] You feel protected.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:12 2012] Your song ends.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:23 2012] You slow down.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:25 2012] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:26 2012] You no longer feel protected.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:27 2012] Your song ends.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:31 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:37 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:43 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:49 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:55 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:18:58 2012] Severilous scowls at you, ready to attack -- looks like quite a gamble.
[Mon Jan 23 16:19:01 2012] Your feet move faster.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:05 2012] You resist the Tigir's Insects spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:07 2012] You resist the Dragon Charm spell!'
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:11 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:16 2012] Severilous regains concentration and continues casting.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:16 2012] You resist the Tigir's Insects spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:24 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:29 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:30 2012] Your legs lock in pain as you choke on the noxious poison. You have taken 600 points of damage.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:30 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:36 2012] Severilous regains concentration and continues casting.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:38 2012] You resist the Dragon Roar spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:39 2012] You resist the Dragon Charm spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:43 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:48 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:22:55 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:00 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:01 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:06 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:07 2012] You resist the Ceticious Cloud spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:08 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:13 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:14 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:19 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:20 2012] You resist the Dragon Roar spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:20 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:25 2012] Severilous regains concentration and continues casting.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:25 2012] You resist the Tigir's Insects spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:35 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:40 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:41 2012] Your legs lock in pain as you choke on the noxious poison. You have taken 600 points of damage.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:42 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:47 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:48 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:53 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:53 2012] Severilous has become ENRAGED.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:54 2012] Severilous begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Jan 23 16:23:59 2012] Severilous's casting is interrupted!
[Mon Jan 23 16:24:00 2012] You resist the Dragon Roar spell!
[Mon Jan 23 16:24:00 2012] Severilous succumbs to the lure of ice.
[Mon Jan 23 16:24:00 2012] Severilous has been slain by Weezard!
[Mon Jan 23 16:24:00 2012] You gain party experience!!

bluejam
01-24-2012, 10:02 PM
Perun confirmed reading skills of a toddler.

Also I've resisted dragon charm in VP on Kets before btw (~340MR).


I don't recall Gore or Sev ever charming, but it's been a long time I guess...

Motec
01-24-2012, 11:19 PM
I have never once heard of or seen gore or sev charm.

Trax
01-25-2012, 12:57 AM
Perun confirmed reading skills of a toddler.

Also I've resisted dragon charm in VP on Kets before btw (~340MR).


I don't recall Gore or Sev ever charming, but it's been a long time I guess...

Sploits. I've never resisted any dragon charm.

I am still going to fight for resist checks. You should be able to resist all dragon AE's with around 250 resist for the respective school of magic. It shouldn't require 300+ like it does on this server. Specifically talking about Gorenaire and VP dragons.

Crazyeye
01-31-2012, 06:54 PM
I didn't even have to resist an AE today on Vox. She Dragon Roared as usual (and I got feared with 366 MR... can we explain that?) but the cold AE didn't go out and I was in melee from 99% - 0%

Curious as to where u guys were fighting the dragon at that it WASNT aeing?

Rusl
01-31-2012, 07:12 PM
in her lair, where you are supposed to kill her
http://rampageguild.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3724.0;attach=917; image

Crazyeye
01-31-2012, 07:24 PM
Thanks Rusl. So the recent suspensions for the dragon not AEing wasn't because of where she was pulled to. Can you continue your fine detective work and find where its previously ( before yesterday ) stated in the rules that you HAVE to fight her inside the lair?

Autotune
01-31-2012, 07:27 PM
in her lair, where you are supposed to kill her
http://rampageguild.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3724.0;attach=917; image

SS doesn't work, gimme access to ur guild pls.

Rusl
01-31-2012, 07:34 PM
you don't already have access stealin? I am disappoint.

As far as not pulling her, what with the recent bannings/suspensions on red for exploiting Vox/Naggy from pulling them out of their respective lair's one would assume it common sense to not do so and fight them where they spawn in order to avoid said exploiting of mobs.

Crazyeye
01-31-2012, 07:39 PM
Your statement is that of a belligerent drunk. Not everyone has time to play red and read what about goes on over there Rusl. Can you find clarification anywhere on OUR server about this being illegal ?

Crazyeye
01-31-2012, 07:56 PM
In order to break the law, the "law" has to be ruled. In this case, there is no "ruling" on our server( till yesterday ). This is irrelevant to the bug at hand here.

Rusl
01-31-2012, 08:52 PM
"Ignorance does not remove Liability"
-Amelinda

Xatava
01-31-2012, 10:00 PM
"Ignorance does not remove Liability"
-Amelinda

Ok, well have fun giving back just about every single Hoshkar loot since VP opened, IB

cyryllis
01-31-2012, 11:23 PM
umm since when was pulling vox out of the lair against any sort of rule? thats completely classic....I never knew any guild on live during kunark/velious era that didnt pull out of lair.

Ele
02-01-2012, 12:28 AM
"Ignorance does not remove Liability"
-Amelinda

All Hail the Queen

Ok, well have fun giving back just about every single Hoshkar loot since VP opened, IB

Don't forget the first few Trakanon's that were not working properly. Vox that IB/VD got last week. Hoshkar, Nexona, Nagafen, Vox and the list keeps going.

Note: Apologies to anyone that listens to these videos TR's Team Speak is absolutely atrocious.

TR's very first Hoshkar the second week of VP:

1:30 "Still hasn't AOEd"
1:38 "At all?"... "Holy..."
1:40 "That first one wasn't an AE"
2:18 "Exploit it"
2:22 "Probably how TMO did it"

http://www.youtube.com/embed/DvZKjObA7YI

TR's very first Nexona also the same week as Hoshkar above. Notice Nexona didn't AE at all for TR on their first time to kill her. TR/IB has since complained that Nexona's AE is nearly unresistable. Which is it?

http://www.youtube.com/embed/DQZVgsVsx2w

Shiftin
02-01-2012, 04:22 AM
In order to break the law, the "law" has to be ruled. In this case, there is no "ruling" on our server( till yesterday ). This is irrelevant to the bug at hand here.

Going back to pre-kunark we were told not to pull vox from the lair by either rogean or uthgaard (or both?).

Even with the AE working it's a far easier fight at zone in. We didn't stop fighting her there for the added challenge. The rule has been fight vox in her lair for over a year. Again, ignorance does not absolve wrongdoing.

bluejam
02-02-2012, 02:54 PM
You guys are confusing Bug Report with RNF.

Werlop
02-02-2012, 08:14 PM
Vox that IB/VD got last week[/url]

Was AEing

Quizy
02-04-2012, 01:07 PM
Going back to pre-kunark we were told not to pull vox from the lair by either rogean or uthgaard (or both?).

Even with the AE working it's a far easier fight at zone in. We didn't stop fighting her there for the added challenge. The rule has been fight vox in her lair for over a year. Again, ignorance does not absolve wrongdoing.

except everytime she was fought in king room pretty much... it's just hypocritical nonsense that the people guilty of it try to hide.... TMO blazes the trails here with trying shit and ib sits back and rule lawyers us to try and weasal anything they can out of a situation.. it's sad

Shiftin
02-04-2012, 01:44 PM
King room or zone in, we were all told to fight vox in her lair over a year ago by the server staff. IB fought at king room going back to October 2010.. You're not blazing a new trail, you were pulling a dragon from its room which is both a no no as per rogean for a very long time and a recent, very publicly punished exploit.

No one left in tmo was raiding in late 2010/ early 2011?

kanras
05-18-2012, 10:17 PM
Fixed broken AEs, pending update.

Sundawg
10-23-2012, 09:19 PM
Mon Jan 23 16:18:06 2012] Also he only dropped two items, no spells.


Should Severilous have a chance to drop spells during this (our) era?

Earlier then 2001?

http://216.237.114.98/cgi-bin/valorguard.pl?Page=News&Monthnum=10&Monthstring=October&Year=2001

Loot was nice: 3 wizy spells, monk bracer, shield of the green dragon and... yes... a green dragon scale

I would assume yes, but thought i'd ask the community first.

Chedduh
10-23-2012, 09:21 PM
I'm pretty sure all dragons and such on here drop less loot than they did back on live. Seems to mostly be 2 drops at most 4 with the exception of Trak who usually drops more given the teeth.

Heebee
10-23-2012, 09:22 PM
Should Severilous have a chance to drop spells during this (our) era?

Earlier then 2001?

http://216.237.114.98/cgi-bin/valorguard.pl?Page=News&Monthnum=10&Monthstring=October&Year=2001



I would assume yes, but thought i'd ask the community first.

Yes.

nilbog
11-11-2012, 05:07 PM
Mon Jan 23 16:18:06 2012]
he only dropped two items, no spells.

Fixed, pending update.

nilbog
11-11-2012, 05:44 PM
nilbog any chance of any of the over a year old pvp bugs being looked at?

Stacking up pretty badly atm

If it's something I can fix, yeah. If it's a source issue, it's waiting on a source developer.