Dragons and Nihilum

[Steaks]

So i decided since i do like pvp but am mostly interested in raiding to pursue a guild with nihilum , after being blown off several times i was told to get 34 and apply , so i did.

For the past 2 days ive been in xp groups and hanging out with guild mates , and honestly id like to say they are great people , ive had a huge amount of fun in guk and solb , the people ive grouped with have been very fun guys , everyone in vent super +

I had been told that nihilum were faggots by people like heartbrand ( Whom i must add said he will no longer sell to me or even talk to me since i joined them ) But i do not judge anyone , not even holo , because after 12 years of mmo's i have learned that every guild has awesome people and every guild has dickheads , its inevitable.

I knew lilpis and about 10 others , bruuce from beta and a dozen or so others , super people

Tonight we raided vox and i wasnt sure what to expect , i hadnt raided on project99 servers before , i raided on titan and there were alot of bugs , but i was looking forward to it all day ( yesterday too : )

Apparently on live you use a slightly different tactic , back in the day the dragon was all out burn and everyone push from one side to try to interrupt , then if you remember around 20% she runs up the wall P The fight never lasts more then 5 mins , most people dont survive 3 aoes

it was funny but vox is part of eq classic history and killing her is super , but here apparently she cant be interrupted by push , or that push does not work at all , im not sure which , so nihilum pulls her to the gate and does a long drawn out type fight , like tov trash dragons when not enough people are stealing mana kinda ( except it was an hour not 5 minutes )

I didnt think much of it , but very little progress was being made , after a half hour i got real bored ( Every one did ) And apparently we only had 1 enchanter who was managing a bear and wasnt really tapping mana ( apparently tap is very cruel on mana )

and while the enchanter in question is an awesome guy and tried his best the point being is that the fight dragged on a very very very very long time , over an hour.

toward the end i noticed the aoe timers the tank was trying to keep were off , and running around the corner sometimes led to you being hit by the aoe , toward the end this stopped happening even if you screwed up , i saw the hit by the frost rift message but i never took 1 nuke at the gate , i only ate a nuke when you were feared right out by vox

it could have been because he was feared and when you are feared you cant hit hotkeys right or it could have been a bug , but the aoes stopped working properly

i also noticed that quite a few people didnt even bother to dodge aoes they just sat in one spot , i went to go take a leak , came back and went to melee at the gate next to everyone else , i went to scratch my self while an aoe went off and i did not get hit ( neither did the 3 other people next to me ) and i happened to say in vent hey , the aoe didnt hit me

i went next to the healers and after the aoe i went back to melee next to everyone else ( the people that didnt move lol )

at this point i mentioned in vent that the aoe wasnt hitting by the gate , the first person ( whoever the nice normal human being was ) That the dragon can sometimes be bugged and aoe wont hit certain spots. I said oh ok , because yes i had heard about this with the holo drama a week or so ago

i moved by the healers for next aoe and went back , and in a matter of 5 seconds someone said steaks is exploiting , one guy said newb , next guy said idiot , next guy said idiot , and next guy said fucking asshole

i was standing next to two other people , i ate a bear and a starfire ( heres pic ) it didnt last 5 seconds once the first guy said idiot

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and all i did was say that the aoe wasnt hitting anyone at the gate

upon popping in bind i was removed from the guild and it was played off like i knew about it , and i was exploiting ( and of course that i was a scumbag , a newb , an idiot and i think an asshole , but im not sure )

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apparently staff watched the fight too , amelinda said she was all lagged out from running two instances of p99 ( Get a real comp or close the other jesus ) wtf are you a guide for go make me a sandwinch

after speaking with trio it was played off like what i did was epicly wrong ( when i didnt really do anything ) But the guilt was clearly shown almost instantly when i noticed what was going on , i mean seriousley pking me 5 seconds tops , probably less after i noticed it

beo tried to play it off like i stayed there for 5 minutes , and even had the balls to say im sorry it had to end up this way , kinda funny how much can happen in 5 seconds

there were some people that never moved the entire fight , i was helping with goblins and dodging the ( imaginary ) aoes so i didnt pay too much attention

now i understand the guild does not want to exploit if they dont have to ( hell i wouldnt want to either ) and i didnt think they meant to or wanted to but they did , and they shit on me for noticing it , and all i did was notice it

and the bullshit that entailed is quite amusing , the tells i got were hilarious , and about 5 of the members who probably didnt know , including my group mates were quite confused , i think i was confused jesus it was 2am

[Supreme]

Funny how you moved to the exact spot that was specified in a screenshot posted in R&F and started saying "AE wont hit here" and started to melee.

You was told to STOP and MOVE away. You did not do so...you was gibbed and guildremoved.

From the looks of it i would say that you did it on purpose with the hopes of getting us banned.

You were just a recruit for 2 days. Thanks for applying time to move on.

[SamwiseRed]

bans and suspensions for all. erase guild.

[El Culo]

assburger alert

[Shrubwise]

first

[Pokeman]

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[Tumdumm]

I didnt think much of it , but very little progress was being made , after a half hour i got real bored ( Every one did ) And apparently we only had 1 enchanter who was managing a bear and wasnt really tapping mana ( apparently tap is very cruel on mana )

next time youre postin a novel get someone to tap your keyboard's mana please

indredesting read but damn man that quote right there is how i felt as i was reading it

[Pokeman]

y no embed???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQphkQBYNBs

[Mardur]

Standing in a spot where you're immune to dragon AE due to LOS exploit is not a good way to prove yourself to a guild. That about sums it up.

[Pokeman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF0zP4ukkKg

[El Culo]

investigation and full gm probe warranted. try nihilum for these crimes and put them in the gallows. IF dirty pixels are now in circulation account bans and gear wipes are needed stat :o

[pojab]

seems like he understood your raid strategy perfectly fine?

[Billbike]

More lucky than exploit

[beowulf420]

steaks, man, you said in vent "ive been standing here for 3 minutes and have not been hit by one aoe"

i was the "nice normal human being" who responded to what you said in vent. i then went on to tell you not to do that because it would result in a ban. you kept defending your case, instead of listening to instruction. then more people started chiming in and with a greater sense of urgency to get you to move the fk outta that spot. then you were killed because you still kept defending your point instead of moving.

like i said, im sorry it went down like that. i dont think your intentions were malicious but regardless..you failed to follow direction.

[Mardur]

GMs quick on that ban and item delete button if you so much as parry a dragon. Gotta be on ur guard, ya dig?

[Slathar]

lol @ Nihilum pretending to dodge non-existant AEs

the exploiting continues (luckily)

[beowulf420]

also, yes the aoe works at the gate. i saw you eat multiple aoes and fears. calyx also ate like 50 aoe's... as usual (stop sucking). in the spot you were standing, the aoes dont hit.. which, again, is why i said to move and dodge them properly, like i was doing. that being said, it was late and you were probably a lil rusty and/or tired. either way, we dont condone exploiting mobs or bugging them out... regardless of the wild speculations and misinformation being spread all over the forums.

[beowulf420]

afaik your guild was the one that got suspended for exploiting, slathar, not us. stfu.

[Lawler]

lol @ Nihilum pretending to dodge non-existant AEs

the exploiting continues (luckily)

Better look again at that first screenshot, super troll.

[pojab]

i dunno i think you guys need to work on your fake aoe timer messages. "trololol".

[korzax]

Pretty obvious at this point the dragons need to be removed untill they are fixed. Fighting for an hour then having the dragon bug out and getting accused of exploiting is pure bullshit. More props to the people that are willing to risk a ban fighting buggy content in a 13 year old game.

[Lawler]

i dunno i think you guys need to work on your fake aoe timer messages. "trololol".

[Labanen]

She AoEs, we hide from the AoE, thats all fine. But, you cannot use that spot to melee her too, and even more importantly you do not get in an argument about it midraid, you take that up with the leaders afterwards, during a battle if told to move, you move.
This was made abundantly clear from the start of the raid too.

When you get into an argument midraid while still not doing as told, you leave leaders with the option of risking guildbans or killing you, pretty simple choice, im pretty sure everyone would ve prefered that you just had said "ok, sorry" and moved, I am with Beo on this thinking that you didnt do it with malicious intend, and not knowing any better, it may have seemed like a good idea to melee there, it just REALLY isnt. I think Amelinda might ve thrown you a bone by saying she lagged out, because she also dont think you did it with bad intends... thats just speculations though. Basicly all you got for your mistake was a slap over the wrists in the form of a pvp death - shouldnt be such a big deal.

now i understand the guild does not want to exploit if they dont have to ( hell i wouldnt want to either ) and i didnt think they meant to or wanted to but they did , and they shit on me for noticing it , and all i did was notice it No we do not, its fine to hide from AoE, thats what you "noticed" but game-mechanics should be so that if you hide behind a wall or in another room, then you cant also melee at the same time, there is a bug that allows you to do so, and if you use an exploit you risk bans, if you do it on a raid then the guild risk bans.


i also noticed that quite a few people didnt even bother to dodge aoes they just sat in one spot that actually means they were dodging AoEs, that would be healers, casters medding and melees between AoEs or people on emergency AFK... other people than you had to go during a 76 min fight.

there were some people that never moved the entire fight Yes, they are called clerics, I am one of them.

i was helping with goblins and dodging the ( imaginary ) aoes so i didnt pay too much attentionCare to shed some light on what you mean by "imaginary" ? hiding from AoE is because they are very real, and will own a lvl 34 woodie very fast.

[Amuk]

You can join Fishbait Steaks.

[EverquestJunkie]

Its pretty clear these dragons arnt working right

Why not just stop them from spawning till this problem is 100% confirmed working right.
???????????????

[beowulf420]

Theyre fine. There are only a few minor issues affecting the kill, namely the inability to push.

[jdklaw]

apparently staff watched the fight too , amelinda said she was all lagged out from running two instances of p99 ( Get a real comp or close the other jesus ) wtf are you a guide for go make me a sandwinch




CONVENIENT AND GOOD QUESTION

[Lazortag]

it was funny but vox is part of eq classic history and killing her is super , but here apparently she cant be interrupted by push , or that push does not work at all , im not sure which , so nihilum pulls her to the gate and does a long drawn out type fight , like tov trash dragons when not enough people are stealing mana kinda ( except it was an hour not 5 minutes )


I only read up to here. Vox can be interrupted by melee push. The last Vox kill I participated in with Divinity we had something like 35 people and we pushed her easily. The fact is Nihilum does not attempt these bosses with the correct numbers, and then complains that they are "bugged" (such as their regen rates, etc.) when in fact it's their lack of dps/numbers that causes the fights to seem artificially harder. This is their excuse for exploiting dragons. Don't believe me, just ask Reiker.

Theyre fine. There are only a few minor issues affecting the kill, namely the inability to push.

See above.

[Autotune]

I only read up to here. Vox can be interrupted by melee push. The last Vox kill I participated in with Divinity we had something like 35 people and we pushed her easily. The fact is Nihilum does not attempt these bosses with the correct numbers, and then complains that they are "bugged" (such as their regen rates, etc.) when in fact it's their lack of dps/numbers that causes the fights to seem artificially harder. This is their excuse for exploiting dragons. Don't believe me, just ask Reiker.



See above.

OH, i didn't know divinity was killing vox on red.

[Salty]

The difference between Holocaust and Nihilum is that Holocaust exploited after two months of GM inaction, after Nihilum had been getting away with so much for so long, with screenshots and logs showing their crimes. Holocaust admits wrong doing while Nihilum still lies, blacks out screenshots, and refuses to submit logs. Nihilum played the GMs for suckers by harassing them to monitor Holocaust's raids to eliminate the competition they fail to kill in PvP when they themselves were guilty of the same crime.


http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=528553&postcount=137

[Supreme]

More than one way to kill "teh dragun".

[Haul]

steaks, man, you said in vent "ive been standing here for 3 minutes and have not been hit by one aoe"

i was the "nice normal human being" who responded to what you said in vent. i then went on to tell you not to do that because it would result in a ban. you kept defending your case, instead of listening to instruction. then more people started chiming in and with a greater sense of urgency to get you to move the fk outta that spot. then you were killed because you still kept defending your point instead of moving.

like i said, im sorry it went down like that. i dont think your intentions were malicious but regardless..you failed to follow direction.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Salty]

1 guild gets suspended and disbanded other guild gets free pass at raid mobs

[Lazortag]

OH, i didn't know divinity was killing vox on red.

On blue you imbecile.

[Supreme]

1 guild gets suspended and disbanded other guild gets free pass at raid mobs

Nice spin.

You know this to be false.

[Lazortag]

Nice spin.

You know this to be false.

Keep in mind Salty exploited Naggy on Beta even more egregiously by sending mage pets through walls. The only difference is you guys succeeded and he didn't, so even when Salty exploits he can't accomplish "big things".

[Salty]

Nice spin.

You know this to be false.

How is that spin? Your guild cheated on Nagafen and Vox more than Holo has cheated on Nagafen.

Therefore you are incorrect

[Salty]

Keep in mind Salty exploited Naggy on Beta even more egregiously by sending mage pets through walls. The only difference is you guys succeeded and he didn't, so even when Salty exploits he can't accomplish "big things".

Sent pet through walls? Are you serious?

That is beyond lulzy that you would say something like that like it means something.

[Haul]

I think Salty wins the award for most angry when the server is down-

[Srs Not Ames]

wipe it clean

[El Culo]

I think the most egregious thing besides nihilum exploiting dragon (which we're all used to by now), is polar bears slashing and crushing. This is worse than snakes kicking.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2103&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1327145330

[Haul]

I think the most egregious thing besides nihilum exploiting dragon (which we're all used to by now), is polar bears slashing and crushing. This is worse than snakes kicking.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2103&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1327145330

maybe used to in your delusions of gradeur, p.s. charmed pets can dual wield weaps genius :)

[El Culo]

shut up

http://www.wildlife-fantasy.com/artwork/figure_bear_man_left.jpg

[Autotune]

On blue you imbecile.

not everything is the same from one side to the other.

Just saiyan.

[Crazycloud]

Are the pets hitting from where the same spot people cant get hit by the AOE steak?

[El Culo]

not everything is the same from one side to the other.

Just saiyan.

Correct.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=61430

[Supreme]

How is that spin? Your guild cheated on Nagafen and Vox more than Holo has cheated on Nagafen.

Therefore you are incorrect

Keep believing that...GMs do not.

[Steaks]

hughman was tanking the mob


and i hate to say it but almost no one was backing pets out and none of the skeletons got hit by aoes , and the bears only ate an aoe once they were feared

so keep playing it off like i wasnt standing next to everyone else


oh and for the grand finale they said they are going to trade the scimtar of the mistwalker ( epic classic ranger weapon ) for a manastone , something 1 asshole can camp

[Steaks]

Are the pets hitting from where the same spot people cant get hit by the AOE steak?

they sure are

[Salty]

Keep believing that...GMs do not.

Than why was dragon loot deleted from your guild?

You are clueless.

[Lazortag]

Sent pet through walls? Are you serious?

That is beyond lulzy that you would say something like that like it means something.

< Agatha> do u guys really
< Agatha> that dumb
< Giegue|Wolfram> < Agatha> do u guys really
< Giegue|Wolfram> < Agatha> that dumb
< Agatha> that u dont know how to kill naggy with pets
< Agatha> 12 years later
< Agatha> wtf is wrong with u
< Giegue|Wolfram> clue us in, agatha.
< patriot> fear should be hitting pets
< Agatha> u pull him to the stairs
< patriot> wasnt til AA's that AE's didnt effect pets
< Agatha> and then sick pets
< Giegue|Wolfram> Agatha, there is no non-exploitative way to do it
< Agatha> hide behind wall
< patriot> yea thenthey all get chain feared
* Estu (chatzilla@HIDE-C0F97608.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #red99
< patriot> in a perfect world
< Agatha> yeh
< Agatha> me and salty got naggy to 60% on beta
< Agatha> with 6 mages
< Agatha> l0l
< Agatha> we needed 2 more mages but didnt have accnts

[fiegi]

prolly should just wipe the server

and start fresh

[Salty]

< Agatha> do u guys really
< Agatha> that dumb
< Giegue|Wolfram> < Agatha> do u guys really
< Giegue|Wolfram> < Agatha> that dumb
< Agatha> that u dont know how to kill naggy with pets
< Agatha> 12 years later
< Agatha> wtf is wrong with u
< Giegue|Wolfram> clue us in, agatha.
< patriot> fear should be hitting pets
< Agatha> u pull him to the stairs
< patriot> wasnt til AA's that AE's didnt effect pets
< Agatha> and then sick pets
< Giegue|Wolfram> Agatha, there is no non-exploitative way to do it
< Agatha> hide behind wall
< patriot> yea thenthey all get chain feared
* Estu (chatzilla@HIDE-C0F97608.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #red99
< patriot> in a perfect world
< Agatha> yeh
< Agatha> me and salty got naggy to 60% on beta
< Agatha> with 6 mages
< Agatha> l0l
< Agatha> we needed 2 more mages but didnt have accnts

Fire pets don't take Nagafen AE, dumbass.

Always been that way on Emu from the very beginning of creation.

[Steaks]

prolly should just wipe the server

and start fresh

i agree with this guy for once , server should still be beta , resists dont work , melee tables dont work , ac isnt calculated right and the xp is far too slow to hold a healthy population of people ( with lives )

all we got stuck with is hardcore assholes

[El Culo]

fire pets ... they got the FR but nihilum uses water pets, and charmed pets, and shit from the logs

[Lazortag]

Fire pets don't take Nagafen AE, dumbass.

Always been that way on Emu from the very beginning of creation.

You realize I've killed Naggy on blue, right? Making things up about the encounter when your only experience with it was a failed attempt at exploiting won't really work.

[Awwalike]

wait Salty I thought you were FB why so care about Holo?

[Supreme]

Than why was dragon loot deleted from your guild?

You are clueless.

[fiegi]

sig

[minakto]

He doesnt. He is just more concerned with the integrity of the server

[Salty]

You realize I've killed Naggy on blue, right? Making things up about the encounter when your only experience with it was a failed attempt at exploiting won't really work.

You killed naggy on blue and had absolutely no idea, it's ok bro.

Nagafen on vztz was the SAME EXACT WAY.


Just because you are clueless doesn't mean everyone else is.

Rogean was right there with me on Red99 beta while I was exposing that Nagafen AE didn't touch pets. I even raised the question to Rogean so that he could check himself; but he didn't.

CSN Rogean: god he just ate your pets for breakfast
Salty: do the fire pets take the nag AE?
CSN Rogean: dunno
Salty: we need more mages
Salty: ditching nag
CSN Rogean: That's too bad
Salty: plvling more
Salty: lol
CSN Rogean: [Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] You say, '#npcloot show'
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] Coin: 4p 15g 7s 6c
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[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11621: Cloak of Flames
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[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11624: Gauntlets of Fiery Might
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11624: Gauntlets of Fiery Might
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11624: Gauntlets of Fiery Might
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[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11625: Orb of Tishan
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[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11626: Selo`s Drums of the March
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11628: Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11628: Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11629: Hierophant`s Crook
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11629: Hierophant`s Crook
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11630: Gold Plated Koshigatana
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11630: Gold Plated Koshigatana
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 11632: Bladestopper
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[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 13401: Manastone
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 13401: Manastone
[Sun Oct 23 23:40:12 2011] 26 items on Lord_Nagafen000.

[Supreme]

i agree with this guy for once , server should still be beta , resists dont work , melee tables dont work , ac isnt calculated right and the xp is far too slow to hold a healthy population of people ( with lives )

all we got stuck with is hardcore assholes

Not going to happen. This is not VZTZ.

[Supreme]

He doesnt. He is just more concerned with the integrity of the server


You really believe that? Talking about Salty right?

[minakto]

Im sure salty is using this to troll but still a legit concern that the server integrity seems to be in jeopardy. 2 guilds exploited. GMs have proof/logs of both guilds doing it. Initially 1 guild got loot removed and players got suspended and some perma banned. After a shit storm of drama Rogean decided to remove all naggy loot from guilds that exploited. Nihilum got their naggy loot removed thus meaning rogean knows they exploited yet they did not get suspended or disbanded while another gild did.

Just seem double standards. Two people cheat on a test. Principle discovers both cheated on test. Princile suspends 1 and not the other. Also the other cheated on more test and Principle has proof of it.

Ban/suspend all of them or none of them dont really care. if this server is to have longevity where future guilds might come up and be #1 after other guilds get bored it would be nice to have equal rules applied to all guilds and equal punishment

[Lazortag]

You killed naggy on blue and had absolutely no idea, it's ok bro.

Nagafen on vztz was the SAME EXACT WAY.


Just because you are clueless doesn't mean everyone else is.

Rogean was right there with me on Red99 beta while I was exposing that Nagafen AE didn't touch pets. I even raised the question to Rogean so that he could check himself; but he didn't.

Nothing in your logs proves what you're saying, whereas I have logs of Agatha describing in detail exactly how you avoided Naggy's ae (by hiding pets behind walls). Hmmm.

[Salty]

You really believe that? Talking about Salty right?

Your guild publicly cheats, gets their loot deleted.

Integrity, you have none.

[Salty]

Nothing in your logs proves what you're saying, whereas I have logs of Agatha describing in detail exactly how you avoided Naggy's ae (by hiding pets behind walls). Hmmm.

Nagafen's AE doesn't hit fire pets.

You are retarded and it's how we would kill him on VZTZ.


Agatha is on Heroin and Oxy 24/7 bro.

[fiegi]

Supreme confirmed macroquest user

see sig

[Lazortag]

Im sure salty is using this to troll but still a legit concern that the server integrity seems to be in jeopardy. 2 guilds exploited. GMs have proof/logs of both guilds doing it. Initially 1 guild got loot removed and players got suspended and some perma banned. After a shit storm of drama Rogean decided to remove all naggy loot from guilds that exploited. Nihilum got their naggy loot removed thus meaning rogean knows they exploited yet they did not get suspended or disbanded while another gild did.

Just seem double standards. Two people cheat on a test. Principle discovers both cheated on test. Princile suspends 1 and not the other. Also the other cheated on more test and Principle has proof of it.

Not to defend Nihilum but Rogean had proof that Holocaust did it intentionally (the fact that they sent only 9 people to the fight and I think he even watched them do it), whereas there's only strong suspicions that Nihilum did it intentionally. Supposedly Nihilum also reported the bug, while Holocaust did not. Personally I think Nihilum did it intentionally since they were extremely evasive about the existence of an exploit and even tried to make the encounter easier for them (check out the thread "Nagafen on red" in the Bugs forum). But can I prove it? No.

[King Smarba]

Why is nothing being done about cheating and exploiting? If a guild is caught exploiting anything, forget taking away their loot. BAN THEM FROM THE SERVER!

Everyone else is playing by the rules and playing classic EQ for what it is. If people in Holocaust and Nihilium are cheating, BAN THEM! Get them off our server! No warnings or slaps on the wrist taking away the gear they CHEATED for. KICK THEM OFF! Keep the server legit

Come on GM's take out the ban stick and SLAP the shit out of the cheaters with it! We all know who they are, just get rid of them!

[Lazortag]

Nagafen's AE doesn't hit fire pets.

You are retarded and it's how we would kill him on VZTZ.


Agatha is on Heroin and Oxy 24/7 bro.

VZTZ is not red99.

[Salty]

VZTZ is not red99.

Rogean was right there watching us do Nagafen on beta.

So you are still confirmed stupid as fuck.


Nih confirmed cheated, got their loot taken away from more than one dragon kill.

Holo confirmed cheated, got deleted/suspended.

Fish Bait confirmed did not cheat by witness of Rogean. Suck my balls.


Fire pets don't take Nag AE. I knew that from vztz. I attempted it, I told Rogean to check while in beta when things were in testing. I have evidence of every single detail of what I just stated in this post and have shown it.

Rogean didn't give a fuck.


http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/mmorpg-general-discussion/193675d1327170770-project-1999-red-classic-everquest-pvp-nagafen-f.png

[minakto]

Imo this is not about if holo or nihilum did or didnt exploit. Its holding same standards to all. It has been shown both exploited. Holo obviously did otherwise they would of not been suspended/banded/disbanded/loot removed. Nihilum had the most raid loot removed. There is a screen shot of them doing Vox and Rogean calling them out about it.

Anyways this is not about if they are guilty or innocent. Its about same standards.

[joel.popick]

I was so confused when steaks died. you tell steaks "sorry I didn't heal you fast enough, I was healing the clerics for manastones" lol.

[Salty]

Imo this is not about if holo or nihilum did or didnt exploit. Its holding same standards to all. It has been shown both exploited. Holo obviously did otherwise they would of not been suspended/banded/disbanded/loot removed. Nihilum had the most raid loot removed. There is a screen shot of them doing Vox and Rogean calling them out about it.

Anyways this is not about if they are guilty or innocent. Its about same standards.

This is the post of reason.

Minakto knows whatsup.

[Steaks]

yes i basically got pkd and took alot of dmg at once , but good try believe : )

[Mardur]

Personally I think Nihilum did it intentionally since they were extremely evasive about the existence of an exploit and even tried to make the encounter easier for them (check out the thread "Nagafen on red" in the Bugs forum). But can I prove it? No.

Do you realize nothing you say make sense? If our plan was to just exploit Naggy every time (0 dps) why would we give a fuck about bug reporting his regen rate?

[Haul]

they sure are

incorrect

[Salty]

You confirmed got loot taken away from Nagafen kills and Vox kills.

Nih confirmed caught cheating, sorry bro but it happened.

[Steaks]

regen rate? everything on the server has pop level regen , even players

at level 17 in oasis i was bowing someone running from me and they were regening nonstop arrows for 5-20 dmg , granted the dps was slow , but players start with iksar regen bps on red

[Mardur]

regen rate? everything on the server has pop level regen , even players

at level 17 in oasis i was bowing someone running from me and they were regening nonstop arrows for 5-20 dmg , granted the dps was slow , but players start with iksar regen bps on red

wut

[Lazortag]

Do you realize nothing you say make sense? If our plan was to just exploit Naggy every time (0 dps) why would we give a fuck about bug reporting his regen rate?

To get it nerfed in your favour for when the exploits with the encounter get fixed? To make the fight take less time? There are lots of explanations for it.

[Labanen]

they sure are
thats simply not true. Starting to believe you never wanted to be in the guild to begin with but just wanted to feed forumtrolls.

[Steaks]

thats simply not true. Starting to believe you never wanted to be in the guild to begin with but just wanted to feed forumtrolls.

i very much wanted to be in the guild , and i was very happy , but when i mentioned what i saw i was gibbed in 5 seconds

and 3 feet of bullshit followed

and if you knew you could avoid aoes by sitting at the gate entrance ( Where everyone else was ) and didnt want or need to exploit

pull her to a different wall without those magic spots?

[Dullah]

regen rate? everything on the server has pop level regen , even players

at level 17 in oasis i was bowing someone running from me and they were regening nonstop arrows for 5-20 dmg , granted the dps was slow , but players start with iksar regen bps on red

nah

[Filthed]

Sent pet through walls? Are you serious?

That is beyond lulzy that you would say something like that like it means something.

2107

2108

[Steaks]

seen these pics before nothing new , move along

[Salty]

2107

2108

You con red to me at 31, you spam a 3 second stun, you couldn't kill me more than twice.

Not upset bro.


Parade around your Salty the Celeb kill, you gonna need it to look cool around here.

[beowulf420]

Steaks... not to be a dick but if you were actually paying attention to what was going on around you, you wouldve seen pet owners spamming back off every 10-11 sec before the aoe droppped then sent in again right afterwards.

Salty, youre retarded. keep slandering and forum warrioring because you cant accomplish anything in game. (as if its even difficult)

[Slathar]

Nihilum are known exploiters and should be removed from the community before further exploitation can take place. Thank you.

[virtue64]

inb4r&f

[Steaks]

Steaks... not to be a dick but if you were actually paying attention to what was going on around you, you wouldve seen pet owners spamming back off every 10-11 sec before the aoe droppped then sent in again right afterwards.

Salty, youre retarded. keep slandering and forum warrioring because you cant accomplish anything in game. (as if its even difficult)

i watched every bear and i counted down between every aoe when i was dodging , i think every single bear owner either backed him up early or backed him up late , either way they pretty much missed the call completely and aoe went off with bear still engaged , A For effort but bears stayed 100% unless they got an unlucky fear and got aoed outside

but keep clinging to that raft beo its not going down or anything

honestly i think the funny part of this is you guys giving a runed bolster belt to a sk and trading away a mistwalker scimtar for a manastone

hilarious

[Salty]

runed bolster belt to a sk

41% haste belt quest for SK/Pal is one of the easiest quests in Plane of Sky. Don't expect retards to know that.


Confirmed.

[Steaks]

bro salty are you playing on red ? i havent seen you in game yet

i didnt play at release or for the first month but what ever happened with fish baits

[Amelinda]

apparently staff watched the fight too , amelinda said she was all lagged out from running two instances of p99 ( Get a real comp or close the other jesus ) wtf are you a guide for go make me a sandwinch


Hey steaks.....

Way to leave out most of the conversation...

Also way to be disrespectful to a guide.

i said i didn't see anything and asked specifically what they exploited adn you acted like i was retarded because i didn't notice that 5 people were staying in the same spot for an entire raid.


By the way - i'm locking this thread because you posted it in the wrong section.