Robe of the Whistling Fists + Celestial Fists

[Bushido]

does the clicky on RotWF count as v2 haste and Celestial Fists clicky count as a v3 haste? can you go over the 100% haste cap with the monk epic clicky? also does the clicky on RotWF and Celestial Fist clicky stack, not the haste part, but the other parts of it?

[webrunner5]

I thought you had to turn in the Robe to get the fists?

[Bushido]

I thought you had to turn in the Robe to get the fists?

you do, but you can do the robe quest part over again.

[bluejam]

The stats stack.

[Bushido]

so what version of haste does the monk epic count as, v3, overhaste? as in, you can go over the 100% cap with it?

[Rusl]

Overhaste does not exist on P99. The robe counts as spell haste and will be overwritten by a shaman or enchanter buff.

[Szeth]

Yeah, afaik v3 haste didn't come until luclin, and songs etc that used v3 were retroactively changed.

However, I support making monk epic 40% overhaste Lolol that'll teach the freebringer rogues.

[Extunarian]

Looks like Rusl mostly answered this, but I'd also add that the neither the fists nor robe allow you to break the 100% cap.

[Cheech]

Anyone figure out how to connect both clickies to one flying kick? its not working for me. Do i really have to click 2 bottons to get the STR/AC from the robe and the Haste/attack from epic. I have set it up to have it click both when i do flying click button, but it will only do one. Reason is cause the hastes dont stack i know that but is there another way to delay the click of one? Like through a macro or some sort?

[Bruman]

The only way I've found it to work, is using key bindings.

So lets say you have your 10 buttons. Button 3 is my Flying Kick. So I put my robe in Button 10.

Then in key bindings I have the number 3 on my keyboard go to hotbar 1 button 3. Then I also make the number 3 go to hotbar 1 button 10. (or button 0, can't remember what it says). If you have both the robe and the fists, then you'd set it up for button 9 as well.

With my UI (I don't know about all of them), I can also have multiple hotbars showing. So you could have a second hotbar up with your clickies, and bind button 3 to buttons on hotbar 2, that way you could keep your 1-10 on your main hotbar. But if the hotbar isn't showing, it won't work.

[fischsemmel]

Question about haste stacking.

This thread got me to go look at the buff slot #s for different haste spells/songs/clickies on the wiki and on allakhazam. Enchanter haste is slot 1, jonthan's whistling warsong (bard song, the clicky on ROTLC) is slot 2 (but all other bard hastes are slot 1). The haste on the epic is slot 5. The wiki and zam don't disagree with each other on any of this.

With other buffs, like strength or a resist, if that slot number is different, the effects stack. But not with haste?

Is the wiki/zam wrong about what slot these different haste effects are in, or is there some extra mechanic in there that stops haste from stacking when other effects in the same slots would stack?

[Bruman]

Yes, haste has special stacking rules. Robe song and fists spell mostly stack, in that you get all the stats from both, but only the higher haste from fists.

[Lanuven]

http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Robe_of_the_Whistling_Fists

Why is this being considered "spell haste" aka haste cast by others? This is clearly a bard song effect and should be going into the short duration buffs window, allowing it to not be overwritten by a casters haste spell. This should be stacking haste effects, should it not ?

[Dreads]

Does the celestial fist count as spell haste like the robe?

[Rusl]

Yes dreads it is spell haste.

Lanuven you are referring to bards giving overhaste which came out in luclin iirc so even tho the effect is a bard song it will not stack with any other spell haste on p99.

[Szeth]

Lrn2quote Rusl I said that 5 posts ago. and lrn2read other people

[Morsakin]

However, I support making monk epic 40% overhaste Lolol that'll teach the freebringer rogues.

I support this decision if necros are allowed to stack their various pet haste buffs.

[Szeth]

Rather pet haste stacking than dot stacking? Pet haste stacking means 25% exp on every kill, whereas dot stacking means you could PE like 5 mobs, splurt + 3x blood line dot them all and regen mana.

[Morsakin]

Come on Szeth, you know me better than that. I would just factor this into my various solo models and compensate accordingly, to assure that I still did over 50% damage. The pet would simply do his 40% damage or so that much quicker!

Edit: Necros wanting dot stacking was a given I thought? Same goes for Shaman / Druids etc.