Mage nerfs? wat are they

[nalkin]

Hi my name is Nalkin,
I was wondering what are the recent status of mages. I know on red that if you don't do over 50% of your pets damage you lose 50% of xp. Is it like this on blue? Does this ever get lifted?

[Lazortag]

If Rangers have a 40% exp penalty I guess it's only fair that mages get a 100% exp penalty.

[Caridry]

its the same on blue, and im not sure if it ever got lifted

[nalkin]

shesh almighty that is harsh. Dunno how a mag gonna do 50% more damage than a pet efficiently

[Lazortag]

shesh almighty that is harsh. Dunno how a mag gonna do 50% more damage than a pet efficiently

You're thinking of this wrong. Don't try doing 50% damage to each mob, just kill twice as many mobs. It's still faster leveling than most other classes.

You can also try duoing. If your pet does 49% and your friend's pet does 49%, then a nuke that does 2% will not make either pet steal exp, since the pet hasn't done more than 50% damage.

[nalkin]

You're thinking of this wrong. Don't try doing 50% damage to each mob, just kill twice as many mobs. It's still faster leveling than most other classes.

You can also try duoing. If your pet does 49% and your friend's pet does 49%, then a nuke that does 2% will not make either pet steal exp, since the pet hasn't done more than 50% damage.

I have tried duoing and am now heartbroken because of it. I can't go through that emotional turmoil again

[nalkin]

is it still do 1 damage or lose like 90% xp?

[Kimmie]

I have tried duoing and am now heartbroken because of it. I can't go through that emotional turmoil again

I also have had a similar experience.

[Zigfreed]

yes on the 1 damage thing.

[liveitup1216]

It eventually went back to just do 1 dmg and you'll get 100%, but im not sure if that came pre-luclin, so we may never see it be that way here again.

[emp82]

It's 75% reduction if you do not out damage your pet. I have heard and seen many 50% claims but from my experience it's a 75% xp loss.

[webrunner5]

It's 75% reduction if you do not out damage your pet. I have heard and seen many 50% claims but from my experience it's a 75% xp loss.

What he said is true. Solo on a Mage now is just a turd. But they do great yet in a group. Fast kills, fast XP. But true they can solo better yet then some classes. Rogue, Cleric, Pally. But the pet nerf hurt Enchanters pretty hard also. Not too bad for Nercos.

[Nedala]

You heard it here first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D84tty-d04

[fischsemmel]

If your pet does 49% and your friend's pet does 49%, then a nuke that does 2% will not make either pet steal exp, since the pet hasn't done more than 50% damage.

This was my understanding of the mechanics, too.

But I saw someone the other day saying this: a solo mage could group with someone who is in a different zone, and the very act of being in a group would stop the pet from ever stealing any experience.

I doubted that, but he swore that his experience bar % was increasing by 2-3x at much per kill of the same mob by doing this than it was if he killed that mob ungrouped.

[Lazortag]

This was my understanding of the mechanics, too.

But I saw someone the other day saying this: a solo mage could group with someone who is in a different zone, and the very act of being in a group would stop the pet from ever stealing any experience.

I doubted that, but he swore that his experience bar % was increasing by 2-3x at much per kill of the same mob by doing this than it was if he killed that mob ungrouped.

I'm pretty sure this was fixed after it was heavily abused on red99 (and not reported).

[nalkin]

You're thinking of this wrong. Don't try doing 50% damage to each mob, just kill twice as many mobs. It's still faster leveling than most other classes.

You can also try duoing. If your pet does 49% and your friend's pet does 49%, then a nuke that does 2% will not make either pet steal exp, since the pet hasn't done more than 50% damage.

So ifyou are fighting a mob and let your initial pet do 60% damage, then chain cast let the other pet do 40% and let off a level 1 nuke, would you get full xp since your current pet has done less than 50%?

[Estu]

So ifyou are fighting a mob and let your initial pet do 60% damage, then chain cast let the other pet do 40% and let off a level 1 nuke, would you get full xp since your current pet has done less than 50%?

Yes. I think.

[Nagash]

Trying to summarise on blue:
- Pet never auto dual wield
- You have to do more than 50% of the damage to the target to get full xp
- Not sure if sword of rune procs on everything
I think that's about it.

[Werlop]

Trying to summarise on blue:
- Pet never auto dual wield
- You have to do more than 50% of the damage to the target to get full xp
- Not sure if sword of rune procs on everything
I think that's about it.

1. Dual wield was added back in 2 patches ago.
2. Only true if soloing
3. It does

[Nagash]

1. Dual wield was added back in 2 patches ago.
2. Only true if soloing
3. It does

Must have missed it then. One thing is sure with my necro (level 40, but that's not a mage), my pets just won't dual wield even if I equip them with some weapons.

Bottom line is: there you go, no real nerf compared to live.

Oh yes, thinking about it: you can't cani pet but that's about it.

[inyane]

Well, the whole real problem isn't the "nerf" as it seems to be classic. it's that pet agro here blows, and you really can't do over 50% of the damage without getting squished.

[xshayla701]

reroll