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Xatava
01-12-2012, 09:28 AM
Hand to hand weapons should not exist on this server. H2h weapons were not introduced into the game until the Luclin expansion. Items such as Whitened Treant Fists, Wu's Fist of Mastery and Wu's Tranquil Fist should all be 1hb, not h2h. Other items which can been seen in the wiki, though I don't know if they're dropping or not, such as Steel Knuckles and Weighted Glvoes should not exist at all.

I will post relevant links if necessary, but I doubt anyone who played classic through Velious will remember this being differently.

Szeth
01-12-2012, 09:30 AM
Unfortunately Xatava it doesn't matter if people remember it differently. You need at least one time/date relevant link showing this.

I don't remember one way or the other, but this specifically should be SUPER easy to provide evidence for.

Xatava
01-12-2012, 09:48 AM
It's kind of hard to prove the non-existance of something, but here's a start:

whitened treant fist:

http://web.archive.org/web/20011126143827/http://everlore.com/items/items.asp?mode=show&IID=230999

whitened treant fist post luclin date:

http://web.archive.org/web/20021109152301/http://www.everlore.com/items/items.asp?mode=show&IID=230999

Everlore's items listing pre luclin (note no hand to hand category):

http://web.archive.org/web/20011212022227/http://www.everlore.com/items/

Everlore's items listing post luclin:

http://web.archive.org/web/20020202212120/http://www.everlore.com/items/

Allakhazam quest entry for Wu's Tranquil Fist... read quest reward and comments:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=343

Szeth
01-12-2012, 09:50 AM
That seems like enough for me. Since h2h and 1hb for monks caps at the same number... any reason you want this changes besides classicness?

Xatava
01-12-2012, 09:52 AM
they don't cap at the same number, h2h caps at 245, 1hb and 2hb cap at 252, unless my client is displaying incorrect info and it's only correct server side.

maximum
01-12-2012, 08:45 PM
You can mark Whitened Treant Fists off the list:

Patch Notes Sunday, September 12th [2010]
Secrets: Changed the Whitened Treant Fists to 1HB.
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17093&highlight=whitened+treant

kanras
01-19-2012, 05:42 PM
All H2H weapons will be 1HB, pending update.

Jjlent
01-24-2012, 02:06 AM
for some reason i always thought wu's fist of mastery was the only h2h item in game pre-luclin

Xatava
01-24-2012, 02:29 AM
happy now?

http://web.archive.org/web/20020127164847/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6277