reasons why server is/has failed

[Darwoth]

1> worst possible timing for release, had it been released 6 months sooner things would be much better, instead it was released right before the holiday season and during other major launches. releasing veeshans peak and epic quests on the blue server did not help either.

2> complete lack of attention from the devs, shit that was reported in early beta continues to be broken (dots with no icon, whirl, dozens of others), the only attention the server gets is the occasional early morning system boardcast threat that we better not train each other or else. as an aside we have been waiting for a defined set of rules since the server opened and have yet to recieve one.

3> no global chat, does not make a fuck if little jimmy gets his feelings hurt after being pked by a mouthbreather saying "u mad bro?" when there are 150 or so on at peak during the weekend global chat is needed, hence the reason the carebear blue server had one until its population picked up.

4> xp grind, i do not like the idea of increasing xp, however reality is that 2/3 of my guild quit between level 30 - 40 because they have wives, kids and jobs that do not mesh with 6 hours per level, this is undoubtedly the same for every other guild as well. the bluebie mantra of "enjoy the journey man! not the destination!" absolutely does not apply for the majority of players on any pvp server in any game ever made.

5> no multiboxing, again this is something i do not like as it creates an environment where everyone has a druid or shaman buff/port bot and eliminates half of my class specific advantages. however unless you join a zerg guild and are willing to deal with the idiots in such a guild you are not getting a group most of the time, allowing boxing would make it possible for small groups of friends to be self sufficient.

5> selective adherence to whats classic or not, ice comet not requiring a vox kill months ahead of schedule is "insignficant" and warrants no change, yet things like nerfing tradeskills down to the 200 cap is vitally important.

6> no penalty for pvp death, 100 copper and 1% of your enemies level is not an incentive to kill or not to be killed, in fact it is for most people a complete waste of time and mana as they now have to spend ten minutes medding to full (longer if buffs got dispelled). at least give us a fucking leaderboard and/or a serverwide kill message if you are not going to put in the classic eq penalties in terms of item loot or a real xp death.

7> "improved" resistance system that sees magic based nukes land better than fire/cold nukes, stuns landing more often than not, roots on 150 mr targets, ebolts all day long on 140 poison resistance and so on. this had to of been fucked with numerous times under the radar since launch because it is not how it was during beta.



on average the server runs 150 - 160 primetime now, in a few weeks it will be at or close to 100, and then the atrophy rate will likely double until it bottoms out around 50 - 70.

if drastic and sweeping changes are not made directly the server is going to take a shit and never recover, which is unfortunate because i have been enjoying myself and the classic (ish) eq experience again, but as things stand it appears i will be headed back to ipy2 in about a month =/

[The Neck Beard]

Aint my sandbox; don't try to put your penis a gift horse's mouth.

[Cast]

ahh as much as i wanted to troll, most of the points are spot on - shit that we (anyone with half a brain and played in 1999, read: NOT lazerfag or any dev) have been saying since before beta.

the biggest problem is the ones leading the server have no pvp experience and large egos (eh, deal with it you do) so they refuse to listen to anyone and bury head in sand.

servers been fucked for a long time I've just been riding it down into the grave like a good White Knight would do.

edit: do Sirken and Null even participate on these forums/dev'ing anymore? Considering the face Sirken was to vztz, I'm astonished the last time I've seen/heard of him has been early December...

[heartbrand]

cant rly complain about the grind and then suggest adding real exp loss for pvp death, but I agree on almost every point, though I'd add the fact that the community sucks as another.

[Dullah]

Mostly 1), but everything except 4 I agree with. Especially 7 for the sake of pvp.

If you are going to change exp (4) in some way, I'd say just add a modifier to groups, and balance the stupid class/race exp penalties. No real need for anyone to get less exp unless you are gonna slightly nerf solo classes exp to encourage grouping.

[Tombom]

I have been loving the server, anyone who keeps playing and says otherwise is a dum nerd.

That being said, you are right on all counts and i fully endorse this


Signed TB

[Mafakka]

I approve.

[Dfn]

2, 3, and 4 alone would save the server.
6 is important.
too late for 1


there are two 5s

[ZEROSUM]

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[Aesop]

YO WE CRIED FOR THIS SHIT TO BE RELEASED ASAP, THEN WHEN IT WAS WE CRIED SOME MORE

Seriously y'all some fucking crybaby ass entitled pieces of shit. Go fucking play Star Wars or some shit.

[Sextar]

server is currently under 100 pop what music should we play at the funeral?

[Sextar]

although i will agree with darwoth on one point; name a successful emu pvp server for any game that doesnt have accelerated or instant max level characters on start

don't give me uthgard bullshit

[jjgerman]

if what you said was implemented it would bey almost identical to vztz, which was a horrible box.


full exp death with 80% spell damage? try playing another class besides a druid or shaman and tell me thats how it should be, your a moron.

its obvious ur bias here, its like lovely posting as a druid

Global ooc on blue was removed, becuase no one likes listening to forum trolls all day long, or having a global auction( yes i realize you can ignore people)
Public ooc would just be a micro wang swinging contest between you and the 20 other "hardcore " mouth breathers on the server, that cant log out for more than 2 days to give the devs TIME to fix things.

EQ is not their FULL TIME JOB. Like it is for you, once again. You are a moron.

As for stuff being broken, you ,like many others on beta, reported almost nothing of use that wouldnt suit ur specific needs and wishes. Any exploit that was to your advantage... you ignored.




Asfor boxing... try getting some freinds, instead of trying to make a guild of you and ur 3 homosexual roommies.
Wives and kids? We all know better.

[Dfn]

full exp death with 80% spell damage? try playing another class besides a druid or shaman and tell me thats how it should be, your a moron.

Melees are supposed to suck in classic and be reliant upon groups to set up kills. I will be playing a melee eventually and advocate for more strict death penalty. Dying in and of itself is not a penalty - you need to lose something. Nvm, trying to argue with ultra-carebear.



Global ooc on blue was removed, becuase no one likes listening to forum trolls all day long, or having a global auction( yes i realize you can ignore people)
Public ooc would just be a micro wang swinging contest between you and the 20 other "hardcore " mouth breathers on the server, that cant log out for more than 2 days to give the devs TIME to fix things.


Pretty sure you're able to disable chat channels. If you don't want the global channel, don't listen to it. Holy shit are you retarded?


As for stuff being broken, you ,like many others on beta, reported almost nothing of use that wouldnt suit ur specific needs and wishes. Any exploit that was to your advantage... you ignored.



What was abused and not reported? The only thing I know of was mage swords, and that wasn't widespread. Wands were reported. Recharing was reported.


Asfor boxing... try getting some freinds, instead of trying to make a guild of you and ur 3 homosexual roommies.
Wives and kids? We all know better.

Nerd alert. Carebear is mad.

[Mardur]

although i will agree with darwoth on one point; name a successful emu pvp server for any game that doesnt have accelerated or instant max level characters on start

don't give me uthgard bullshit

I was about to say Uthgard until the second line ;)

And holy shit, Darwoth said not 1, not 2, but 7 intelligent things in one post?

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[pasi]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=34103
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31288

As it was discussed to death back in April, a FFA PvP server isn't going to attract many 'new' people (new meaning people who haven't played on any of the VZTZ boxes). We were confined to the previous combined box populations plus a few stragglers. And given that, this server is pretty healthy with 200 players.

You'll get a few loners here or there, but nothing is going to deter new players more than not having people to start with. This is amplified by the fact that there's a lot of classes that aren't going to solo well (especially at lower levels). There's a reason that almost every new MMO has PvP teams.

Obviously, I'm not advocating switching the server to teams as it's way too late for that). Even if you adjust teams (hardcode no crossteaming, all classes available to two teams, raid zones FFA), teams still has issues much like FFA.

If you recreate a server that's basically a more stable VZTZ aimed at the VZTZ playerbase, did you really expect the population to greatly exceed VZTZ simply because it's got a 99 tag on it?

[Dullah]

I really hope these things get addressed. When i heard about this server and that it had upwards to 500+ people, i was thrilled. Still im excited by the thought of logging in, but seeing decreasing numbers in zones every day has been quenching that excitement quick.

[xblade724]

2> complete lack of attention from the devs, shit that was reported in early beta continues to be broken (dots with no icon, whirl, dozens of others), the only attention the server gets is the occasional early morning system boardcast threat that we better not train each other or else. as an aside we have been waiting for a defined set of rules since the server opened and have yet to recieve one.

Agreed. I love the devs, but this is true. A simple "we're working on these major things.." sticky would take out 50% of the trolls on this forum and reassure us that we aren't being ignored. What appears to be little things may be big enough for others to quit -- perhaps just a little response from the devs saying "xx will be fixed next patch in a few weeks" may have kept hundreds of people here.


3> no global chat, does not make a fuck if little jimmy gets his feelings hurt after being pked by a mouthbreather saying "u mad bro?" when there are 150 or so on at peak during the weekend global chat is needed, hence the reason the carebear blue server had one until its population picked up.

When I saw a dev respond to global chat, the response was this, and I actually found the original quote:

Spammers and constant retardation. Pass.

..This is not a zerg community at this point, or even the point when this was posted (not that long ago). How often do you honestly think spammers would occur? Perhaps constant retardation, but that's every zone, even in RL. With such little population (especially those that play aruond my time, late Hawaii time), the community NEEDS global ooc.


4> xp grind, i do not like the idea of increasing xp, however reality is that 2/3 of my guild quit between level 30 - 40 because they have wives, kids and jobs that do not mesh with 6 hours per level, this is undoubtedly the same for every other guild as well. the bluebie mantra of "enjoy the journey man! not the destination!" absolutely does not apply for the majority of players on any pvp server in any game ever made.

Agreed. You have to realize that most people joined this server came FROM p99 blue -- they've already had the "classic experience" and the grind. They want some action, or why the hell would they give up their p99 blue character for this new identical classic server, but with pvp?

It sounds bad in the books, but REALISTICALLY, take away hybrid penalties (initially it was thought more like D&D style where hybrids are better than others... but that really isn't the case, which is why they later removed these penalties on live) and boost up the exp more.

Personally, I think RZ ruleset would have been a lot better. Hell, even if you bagged all your stuff, you lose coin, reputation, you spawn at your bind point, spend 10 minutes to med up, and then you run back NAKED to a well equipped individual prepared for your arrival that you are already outmatched for when GEARED, alas you are naked vs this pker that already won vs you the first time! There are significant penalties for dying even if everything is bagged. Especially at higher lvls when people stray away from bind points.

Zerg rushers? Lol, what the hell are they gonna do? If you die in pvp and you spawn next to the person that killed you, you are OUT OF MANA!!!! What the hell can they do ?? If it's melee, they can only bind in cities, so it's no biggie.


5> selective adherence to whats classic or not, ice comet not requiring a vox kill months ahead of schedule is "insignficant" and warrants no change, yet things like nerfing tradeskills down to the 200 cap is vitally important.

I'm FOR selective adherence when it comes to improving gameplay (+exp, LFG tools, chat..) but major game changing mechanics that only effect 1 class, allowing the common wizard to dominate everyone instead of it being a rarity, is ridiculous - this was something major that had no reason to be here; I'd consider it almost a bug. This should have been removed from inventory, removed from game asap. Maybe throw in a goodie to make up for their work so they don't cry.

But when it comes down to it, this server should use classic as a GUIDELINE and a TOOL, not 100% - things have changed over these years, including our ages and free time. This needs to be considered and changes need to be accepted if it will give us an overall better experience playing.


6> no penalty for pvp death, 100 copper and 1% of your enemies level is not an incentive to kill or not to be killed, in fact it is for most people a complete waste of time and mana as they now have to spend ten minutes medding to full (longer if buffs got dispelled). at least give us a fucking leaderboard and/or a serverwide kill message if you are not going to put in the classic eq penalties in terms of item loot or a real xp death.

Agreed. Leaderboard , not sure how hard that'd be to implement... but I am definitely for RZ ruleset. Hell you since the items are so selective, if you are SMART about your surroundings, you will never lose an item! This creates excitement though, knowing that someone could have forgot to bag a precious item. It's like a "rare drop" from a PC! Makes the game very thrillseeking when pvping. If anything, you know you dropped them to their bind points and they lost all their mana instead of feeling bad that they just lost exp and you gained nothing from it.

Losing xp is DEMORALIZING, but losing an item just makes you want revenge, which is fun for pvp. Exciting to announce to zone the trolls of treasure obtained from someone with a nice screenshot attached.


7> "improved" resistance system that sees magic based nukes land better than fire/cold nukes, stuns landing more often than not, roots on 150 mr targets, ebolts all day long on 140 poison resistance and so on. this had to of been fucked with numerous times under the radar since launch because it is not how it was during beta.

Agreed. This is.... no words. Just, agreed ^


if drastic and sweeping changes are not made directly the server is going to take a shit and never recover, which is unfortunate because i have been enjoying myself and the classic (ish) eq experience again, but as things stand it appears i will be headed back to ipy2 in about a month =/

I believe the server CAN RECOVER if action is taken!

* I believe that most this server came from blue p99 and have already experienced the classic experience (grind) and want some action! +exp boost

* People want to group with their friends and have a reason to group with others! +grouping bonus

* People want to play the class they enjoy the most and NOT get extremely out leveled by their friends! Hybrid penalties? Remove them!

* A community, especially small, wants to know they are being heard. Spend 5 minutes a month to create a sticky showing what you are working on! Show us we are being heard!

* FIX RESIST SYSTEM

* Create a special "come back" promotion and put it on the blue MOTD! Maybe have a GM event or two during this time, put a fireworks npc or something fun in west freeport for some come back event thing, offer the blues that if they get a lvl 50 on red, they get a title "of rallos zek, of tallon zek, etc" ... chances are if they played to level 50 on red, they WONT return. Just some easy promotions that don't really effect the game in whole. Make it sound exciting like when we were all excited pre-launch! Overall, just make people feel excited to return and try all the new changes that people want! How many people are still back on p99 thinking guards still don't assist?

Imagine a big motd on blue "Try P99 RED come-back event! PERMANENT +exp boost, +exp grouping bonus, global ooc, stickied upcoming patch notes, and revamped pvp system (RZ rules? Eh, whatever it is)! If you have the courage to get lvl 50, receive a special title on blue server!"
_______________

Have a little faith .. although the devs need to have this faith too for this to work ;)

(Edit: If CASTER is not trolling this thread, than you know it's serious business.)

Edit 2: I'd also like to add that super small bugs that can fixed rapidly, such as Boastful Bellow knockback, that have been announced for countless amounts of time, should be updated before something like ninja patching the Isle Madman in Eruds Crossing to be scowl instead of dubious... I believe that priorities need to be better.

[Dullah]

Still think all these great ideas could be implemented without "+exp boost", but agreed.

With global chat, removal of xp penalties and perhaps a slight group exp bonus (like they added in classic), I feel like Red could have a better sense of community without ruining the sense of accomplishment that comes with leveling and gearing up and doing so while surviving pvp. As it stands, the major reason for faster exp is to catch up with the huge hardcore crowd, where if there was still a 500 player population, being lower level and able to group/pvp wouldn't diminish from the experience.

No one likes being left behind.

[xblade724]

Still think all these great ideas could be implemented without "+exp boost", but agreed.

With global chat, removal of xp penalties and perhaps a slight group exp bonus (like they added in classic), I feel like Red could have a better sense of community without ruining the sense of accomplishment that comes with leveling and gearing up and doing so while surviving pvp. As it stands, the major reason for faster exp is to catch up with the huge hardcore crowd, where if there was still a 500 player population, being lower level and able to group/pvp wouldn't diminish from the experience.

No one likes being left behind.

I feel like the exp boost would be required at this point to get people back in the game. If you quit for a while, you would want to catch up! If you had an exp boost, that's a good reason to allow players to catch up to where they were meant to be!

[Dullah]

Ok. But not a "permanent" xp boost.

[Tajin]

this server is amazing.. i havent logged off since release, u guys are doing a great job

[Tassador]

wife looks at me wierd if i play anything for more than 3hours straight and that is including online poker when it was legal in US and i was making 2-3grand a month on it. So you can imagine how gay and nerd she thinks EQ is. With that being said, i still love this game and its classic ways. I think anything beneficial that will help bring more players would be awesome, however even though i have been level 30 for like a week due to pvp deaths ,lag deaths, dumb deaths and just not being able to play as much. How can we seriously consider taking away the grind from eq? That is the best thing this server has going is the grind the rest is all bull shit anyways.

[Dullah]

wife looks at me wierd if i play anything for more than 3hours straight and that is including online poker when it was legal in US and i was making 2-3grand a month on it. So you can imagine how gay and nerd she thinks EQ is. With that being said, i still love this game and its classic ways. I think anything beneficial that will help bring more players would be awesome, however even though i have been level 30 for like a week due to pvp deaths ,lag deaths, dumb deaths and just not being able to play as much. How can we seriously consider taking away the grind from eq? That is the best thing this server has going is the grind the rest is all bull shit anyways.

I tend to agree with this, with the exception in this case being the ability to pvp - thats generally a feature not considered bullshit to those here.

I've never felt a sense of accomplishment long term in other games due to the lack of challenge involved. I do fear that if that challenge were eliminated, so also would be my desire to play. In general, having to contend with other people in any game or contest that haven't earned their place among your ranks only serves to take the value and fun out of it.

[Vile]

glad i picked up skyrim finally

[fiegi]

What happened to all those "null is the savior" threads :eek::eek:

His resist system really is doing work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D (if you're an enchanter only)

Server needs someone who knows what the fuck was going on in everquest pvp in the late 90 to early 2000's.

[Jirr]

The community on the pvp server limits the population to around 75 people. Classic eq pvp servers can support somewhere around 24 raiders max. All that is left after Naggy and Vox are dead is the xp grind, alts, and griefing. Honestly what did you expect? Most of the people whining about the lack of global chat and population just want a steady stream of newbies that they can kill and proceed to belittle in global ooc. The only ways that I can see to increase the population is 24/7 GM support to fix bugs and enforce whatever rules you decide upon or allow people to 6 box and try to 3 man dragons.

[inimegalg]

At some point people will realize that the devs really don't care all that much. The blue server is their prized project-- R99 is the red headed step child, it's like a science project to them. They could care less, have you seen the pop on blue lately? 600+ at times, I'm sure they are much more focused on that servers success than this servers failure.

As far as the pop, there are a shitload of people that hit 50 or are relatively close that have taken a break from the game that at primetime would easily put the server back at 220+ which is still a healthy pop. Wait until planes gets released and go from there, no1 really gives a shit about Naggy and Vox

[Zalaerian]

Resists just need tuned. Other then that, more pop then VZTZ ever had. Winning imo.

[Chett]

wife looks at me wierd if i play anything for more than 3hours straight and that is including online poker when it was legal in US and i was making 2-3grand a month on it.

Mid Stake SnG Grinder/Cashgame ? With 2-3k a month, u must be a popular Poker player then (should have known u, if u are a mid stake Regular playing on FT/PS like me - glad i am Europe and still can) ... MTTs taking much longer then 3 hours, if u get itm. Guess u were FT ? Lost 6k on black friday there.

Whats ur ROI, what was ur Name. Gona Sharkskope ya... then Heads up for rollz, dude.

[Doors]

Servers fine. Only thing that truly hurt the population was releasing VP and epics on blue whenever the goal was to try and bring people from blue over to red.

[Amelinda]

Wow - So you know what i see - i see several potential devs here. If you are all THAT much of experts on EQ then i recommend you learn how to code or at least learn how to pseudocode and talk to nilbog and express an interest in reforming your negativity and doing something positive for the game we all love so much. Then if you think something is so damn broken then work with nilbog in a POSITIVE manner to try and get it changed.

Do you think coming at him with tons of public threads about how much his server sucks really is a way to make him listen to you at all???? If you think that's how to get people to listen to you then you need to go to charm school or something.

And you think the red server gets no attention from the CS Staff beyond a broadcast reminder not to train each other? Here's a hint buddy - if i'm broadcasting not to train it's because i have several reports of training going on in various zones and i can't be everywhere at once. I have spent countless hours on red helping players, trying to fix things and provide immediate guide assistance.

Sirken has spent a lot of time doing the same. We all have real lives. we can't be on there 24/7.

Boxing will never be allowed so stop asking for it.

Cast: Sirken is around still - He's out of town right now I believe. He isn't going anywhere. I won't let him. :)

Null is still around but has been busy.

so anyway.

tldr -> If the server sucks so bad and you are the savior you believe yourself to be then quit polluting the boards with negativity and talk to nilbog about helping to develop the game and join the team! You can still play as a dev ... depending on what you do.

[funhorroryes]

why do people complain about something that is free

i hope all you fucktards donate before you cry about dev attention

[Amelinda]

Hey. FYI - Nilbog spends HOURS every week coding things just for red. so don't hand me that shit that he doesn't give a shit about this project. It's a hobby, for which he isn't paid. Same with all the other devs.

This is a VERY unfair thing for you guys to say they dont' care. But i'll tell you what will cause him to quit giving two fucks and a shit about the red server.

threads like this.

At some point people will realize that the devs really don't care all that much. The blue server is their prized project-- R99 is the red headed step child, it's like a science project to them. They could care less, have you seen the pop on blue lately? 600+ at times, I'm sure they are much more focused on that servers success than this servers failure.

As far as the pop, there are a shitload of people that hit 50 or are relatively close that have taken a break from the game that at primetime would easily put the server back at 220+ which is still a healthy pop. Wait until planes gets released and go from there, no1 really gives a shit about Naggy and Vox

[Darwoth]

dont think anyone said the server sucked, stop being an emotional female, rather i see people (self included) saying they enjoy the server but that is dying because of a few easily changed things.

if i knew how to code id be happy to put in the time to improve the server, unfortunately for this situation my knowledge centers around the mechanical instead of the electronic.

would be happy to be a server guide to and hold tournaments, events and so on to improve the server. however i highly doubt anyone would ever bestow such a position on me =P

[Amelinda]

well i've actually been working on a gm event......

if you have ideas you'd like to see implemented send me a pm and i'm happy to work with you to help you run the events. You don't have to be a guide to run an event :)

Sirken and i have some fun ideas planned too for when he comes back into town.

[Jirr]

Hey. FYI - Nilbog spends HOURS every week coding things just for red. so don't hand me that shit that he doesn't give a shit about this project. It's a hobby, for which he isn't paid. Same with all the other devs.

This is a VERY unfair thing for you guys to say they dont' care. But i'll tell you what will cause him to quit giving two fucks and a shit about the red server.

threads like this.

It would really help if the Admin posts on the board consisted of status reports and updates rather than just blindly raging at the people who post because they can't see anything that is being done.

[inimegalg]

Hey. FYI - Nilbog spends HOURS every week coding things just for red. so don't hand me that shit that he doesn't give a shit about this project. It's a hobby, for which he isn't paid. Same with all the other devs.

This is a VERY unfair thing for you guys to say they dont' care. But i'll tell you what will cause him to quit giving two fucks and a shit about the red server.

threads like this.

You're right, let me rephrase -- What I was trying to say, is that given the fact they don't get paid for this and have limited time I would guess that they would be much more interested in the blue server that is blossoming right now with the release of epics and VP than the red server.

That was my point, if they didn't care they wouldn't have released the server to begin with. I just think they may be limited on time, either way I'm enjoying my time on the server and I've been thankful to the devs/guides that have put forth their free work towards that experience since day 1.. but my expectations to have them fix things such as the resist system, xp rate, etc is very low because of the time they have allocated to working on red

Fact is for the most part I think the server is being handled like it was blue, because they have no experience with a pvp server.. maybe the devs should have some type of 'board of advisors' people on this forum who have years in this game in PvP that can help them promote a healthy pvp server pop

[fiegi]

Love the server, will always give props to those for doing it.

But having the pvp resist codes this screwed up since beta is a hard pill to swallow - after all thats the reason we play here.

[Arillious]

Agree with most of the points.

It can't be understated how much the lack of GM communication has hurt the pvp server population. At least this is easily fixable.

That said, I still play this server very casually and have fun every other night when i log on for 1-2 hours. The dwindling population is getting somewhat negative and making me question whether or not the server has a long term lifespan. People have a hard time logging on and grinding when they are not sure if they are just wasting their time. Some GM reassurance that they are aware of the community concerns and just basic better communication in general would go a long way here.

[Juugox2]

less crying more playing the amount of time i see ppl crying about xp and global ooc they could be lvling... i mean if you dont like it dont play the shit and dont care about how slow the xp is.. who gives fuck about the downfalls if you want to play the game you will play it if not leave pretty damn simple


im having fun not sure about these ppl if all they do is bitch on forums lol

[Darwoth]

less crying more playing the amount of time i see ppl crying about xp and global ooc they could be lvling... i mean if you dont like it dont play the shit and dont care about how slow the xp is.. who gives fuck about the downfalls if you want to play the game you will play it if not leave pretty damn simple


im having fun not sure about these ppl if all they do is bitch on forums lol

perhaps if your iq consisted of a number larger than your age you would have picked up on the fact that everybody "complaining" is only doing so precisely because they enjoy the server and want to continue doing so instead of seeing it shrivel up and blow away.

[Darwoth]

buddy of mine in game made the comment that copying blue server characters to red and vice versa (naked, 60s turned down to 50s etc) would stabilize the population of both servers.

i think hes right.

[Billbike]

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Can't always get what you want, but sometimes you get what you need.

Wtb anti negative propaganda policy.

[IronLikeALionInZion]

bitching about things to GM's and having developers at Verant/sony changing things.
NOT classic.

amelinda is right as she often is, if your the savior of the server. do something productive to help, or else please stop bitching.

to be honest the best thing that could be done to this server is remove the pvp forums, except a monitored one for a trade hub, and guild recruit. even though i dont belive that they are needed as well.

[Bkab]

when darwoth speaks about eq, people should listen.

JUST SAYIN

[Lulz Sect]

you mad bro?

[heartbrand]

buddy of mine in game made the comment that copying blue server characters to red and vice versa (naked, 60s turned down to 50s etc) would stabilize the population of both servers.

i think hes right.

Best idea I've seen yet.

[inimegalg]

Best idea I've seen yet.

It's a great idea -- but not one I think is really possible with the amount of time that would need to go into it.

This type of stuff is common in today's mmo world (xfering servers) they could open up a sub forum for these kind of requests and do it on a case by case basis, but I think you guys are underestimating the amount of time involved if a character is level 60 and has post classic items

[funhorroryes]

bad idea tbh.

would overall kill the total population of p99.

[Humerox]

i'm getting a good chuckle over all this "instant 50" stuff

[Sextar]

well then chuckles while you're in such a state of bliss why don't you come up with other ways to bring peeps to the server.

[Sniperfire]

many of us tried to tell the devs all this before launch and we were met with hundreds of posts by blue know-it-all trash talking, classic this immersion that and now they have all left the server maybe we can do something now to save population?

yellow text
global ooc
open planes for more pvp incentive

EDIT

people want this box you could tell by how many logged in on day 1

dont reinvent the wheel take what people liked from the last 5 pvp boxes and add p99 dev and attention and stability and you have a winning game

[Chett]

Two years ago, i played a Pay to Win MMO (First time i tried a PtW MMO) Never in my life, i played with such a not very well braingeared Community.

Then i found the Red99 Forum...

I'am glad, that there are plenty of Peoples ingame that enjoy the Game like it is, right now.

It's up to you. Not to the Dev's - u guys will never hit the bottom, heh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg3m8wRVXWg

[Darwoth]

It's a great idea -- but not one I think is really possible with the amount of time that would need to go into it.

This type of stuff is common in today's mmo world (xfering servers) they could open up a sub forum for these kind of requests and do it on a case by case basis, but I think you guys are underestimating the amount of time involved if a character is level 60 and has post classic items

they were going to copy blue to beta under the same circumstances and didnt because it would interfere with folks testing, dont see why it could be done then and not now.

[Nirgon]

Can you retitle these threads so they actually get a look? Or post bug etcs in the right forum? Resists etc need a look, I agree and knew that revisions would be required after launch. Whether or not you're willing to believe it, this server is still very young and not much has really happened. We got a long ways to go despite doomsaying abound.

As far as resists have gone, I'm building a case for it. If I can get an ear on it when I'm ready to present, I think people who want classic EQ pvp resists will be happy.

[Humerox]

well then chuckles while you're in such a state of bliss why don't you come up with other ways to bring peeps to the server.

oh gee...never thought of that.

:rolleyes:

[bomaroast]

Screw the xp: we've all played this game and know what we were getting into.

though I'd add the fact that the community sucks as another.

I think that's really the key point here. I really wanted to enjoy myself, but could not with all the people who think playing a 12 year old game requires you to act as though you were 12.

In game is better than on these forums, but the general attitude of these forums still have an effect. A good word which describes this community is caustic.

[Lazortag]

I have never seen such idiotic suggestions all packed into one post. You guys know that with global OOC your whereabouts could be broadcasted to anyone at pretty much any time right? That doesn't seem all too classic to me. It also doesn't seem fair or at all conducive to a healthy population. The problem isn't that the devs don't listen, it's that the players don't listen. You've been given several good reasons for why you shouldn't have global OOC (for example) and you just ignore them and keep recapitulating the same dumb arguments for why you should have global OOC.

Allowing boxing? Really? No attention from the devs? Have you played on any other pvp server?? And you say that the server should have been released half a year earlier... are you serious? That completely contradicts what you've said - if it was released earlier than nothing would have been fixed and it would have been a complete shitbox.

Maybe the reason tons of people quit is because of assholes like Darwoth who PKed people at the docks in the early levels just to make them go through hellishly long corpse runs? Or the people who PKed people at the banks and blatantly abused the fact that guard assist wasn't implemented yet? I mean, I got PKed halfway on my journey from Qeynos to Faydwer even though I had nothing on me. I didn't ragequit because it honestly doesn't bother me that much, but I can't speak for the 500+ people who have left this server so far. I find it hilarious that the people crying about the population being too low for them are the same people who will bind camp/corpse camp people and brag about griefing them off the server. You made your own bed, now you lie in it. Meanwhile, the rest of us who aren't whiny and entitled will continue to find some enjoyment in the server.

[Humerox]

the board community is 180 degrees from the experience i have in game

even the hardcore griefers lighten up to blewb it up when they get tired of not getting tears.

that's the key thing...people have to learn not to give up the QQ. If you're getting camped, play an alt. find a few people around your level and friend them. it's a bit tougher now at lower levels - but not impossible - as long as you don't bank on leveling like you do on blue, you're ok.

[Chett]

As far as resists have gone, I'm building a case for it. If I can get an ear on it when I'm ready to present, I think people who want classic EQ pvp resists will be happy.

Yea, thats really the only Point i would complain about also.
Sorry to say, Uthgaard. Right now, the Resist Mechanic, u explained detailed in an other Thread, is crap. Would like to see, what Nirgon has to offer.

[Sniperfire]

I have never seen such idiotic suggestions all packed into one post. You guys know that with global OOC your whereabouts could be broadcasted to anyone at pretty much any time right? That doesn't seem all too classic to me. It also doesn't seem fair or at all conducive to a healthy population. The problem isn't that the devs don't listen, it's that the players don't listen. You've been given several good reasons for why you shouldn't have global OOC (for example) and you just ignore them and keep recapitulating the same dumb arguments for why you should have global OOC.

Allowing boxing? Really? No attention from the devs? Have you played on any other pvp server?? And you say that the server should have been released half a year earlier... are you serious? That completely contradicts what you've said - if it was released earlier than nothing would have been fixed and it would have been a complete shitbox.

Maybe the reason tons of people quit is because of assholes like Darwoth who PKed people at the docks in the early levels just to make them go through hellishly long corpse runs? Or the people who PKed people at the banks and blatantly abused the fact that guard assist wasn't implemented yet? I mean, I got PKed halfway on my journey from Qeynos to Faydwer even though I had nothing on me. I didn't ragequit because it honestly doesn't bother me that much, but I can't speak for the 500+ people who have left this server so far. I find it hilarious that the people crying about the population being too low for them are the same people who will bind camp/corpse camp people and brag about griefing them off the server. You made your own bed, now you lie in it. Meanwhile, the rest of us who aren't whiny and entitled will continue to find some enjoyment in the server.

we dont want clasic stupid we want to pvp over raid content stfu and go immerse on blue

[Humerox]

we dont want classic

ummm..wut?

most of us do want classic. far more than the vocal forum warriors that don't.

[Palemoon]

I am very much enjoying the server and think it has a very solid and long lasting ruleset.

You really get a sense of acomplishment here on this server when you reach a new level or get a rare drop, despite the pvp threat always around the corner.

Copying lvl 60's over from blue??? Putting in fast xp??? BOXING????? you people are insane.

OP needs to be ignored.

The only things i'd suggest (besides ongoing bug work, like making sure resist system is where it should be, etc), is SLIGHT tweeks to encourage grouping, like a small group xp bonus (which is classic right? I forget when they added the group bonus and/or made it "better") and making the class/race xp penalties apply to the individual and not shared out amongest their group.

Just small things to encourage grouping, which then leads to community building and a better time for all.

and LOL at Darwoth wanting boxing, so him and his three friends dont have to join a real raiding guild and instead do raid content themselves. Sorry darwoth, part of the "work" in getting that raid loot is dealing with the larger pool of people (good and bad) in a real raid guild.

You dont want to mingle with the pleeps in the "zerg guilds"? ok, then no raid loot for you.

tl;dr: Sever is solid, the table has been set well for us and we are grateful. Its in the communities hands now to build it up, not the devs.

[Zalaerian]

Maybe the reason tons of people quit is because of assholes like Darwoth who PKed people at the docks in the early levels just to make them go through hellishly long corpse runs? Or the people who PKed people at the banks and blatantly abused the fact that guard assist wasn't implemented yet?

Play better imo. If people quit over this then they were never going to survive anyways. Best to quit early and move on. Welcome to box lyfe.

[Chett]

we dont want clasic stupid we want to pvp over raid content stfu and go immerse on blue

I mentioned that kinda Guys in my last post.

[Bkab]

You can tell who the red and blue players are in this thread. The red players do not fucking want to kill 8000 gnolls to reach lvl 12 and play 20 hours a day of straight pve to be able to pvp. There's already a server for that. This server is basically blue 99 with a dash of pvp thrown in. The blue players still cling to the one argument they constantly rehash (ITS CLASSIC THO ITS EVERQUEST ENJOY THE RIDE) and that's just fucking dumb and ignorant. It took me a solid 9-10 days of /played to get 50 and that's with a baller ass XP group going at all times everyday pretty much. No way I would have been able to do this had I not been on break from school. The population is so low right now to the point where most people can't find groups, and a lot of classes aren't good at soloing. I would definitely have quit by now had I not had my group of players to play with. Even tho I can solo efficiently as a shaman I still would quit the fucking game if I had to do that grind by myself.

I don't know, it's just dumb that we are constantly ignored when the majority of these people want these features put in minus the helmet-wearing blue players WHO HAVE ALREADY LEFT THE SERVER. I am absolutely not bashing any of the devs or gms I am very thankful for everything they do, I just wish they'd listen to/give us an update every once in a while. I don't remember the last time I saw rogean/nilbog/null/any other dev post in this section, although to be honest I can't really blame them. Any thread they try to make immediately becomes a flame fest.

[Palemoon]

This server is basically blue 99 with a dash of pvp thrown in.

Mission acomplished then, because that is 100 percent what 1999 rallos zek was.

If you want otherwise, ask whatshisname to reopen VZTZ for you, bye.

[Darwoth]

and LOL at Darwoth wanting boxing, so him and his three friends dont have to join a real raiding guild and instead do raid content themselves. Sorry darwoth, part of the "work" in getting that raid loot is dealing with the larger pool of people (good and bad) in a real raid guild.



you are a moron, i can solo let alone duo or more my planar armor

not interested in any dragon loot that cant be bought or ninjalooted with an alt.

kunark/velious anything that matters for a pvper is easily obtainable.


boxing would not be for me, it would be for those who have nobody to play with and can not find groups.

[Humerox]

You can tell who the red and blue players are in this thread.


I'm so tough but I can't take the grind and it takes soooo long and its no fun and I want instant 50 and no boats and free gear and...


Real red players know how to put up with the harshness of leveling along with the PvP.

The emu players that claimed they were red have proven how blue they really are...the other emu boxes spoiled them.

[Gert Groinwounder]

You can tell who the red and blue players are in this thread. The red players do not fucking want to kill 8000 gnolls to reach lvl 12 and play 20 hours a day of straight pve to be able to pvp. There's already a server for that. This server is basically blue 99 with a dash of pvp thrown in. The blue players still cling to the one argument they constantly rehash (ITS CLASSIC THO ITS EVERQUEST ENJOY THE RIDE) and that's just fucking dumb and ignorant. It took me a solid 9-10 days of /played to get 50 and that's with a baller ass XP group going at all times everyday pretty much. No way I would have been able to do this had I not been on break from school. The population is so low right now to the point where most people can't find groups, and a lot of classes aren't good at soloing. I would definitely have quit by now had I not had my group of players to play with. Even tho I can solo efficiently as a shaman I still would quit the fucking game if I had to do that grind by myself.

I don't know, it's just dumb that we are constantly ignored when the majority of these people want these features put in minus the helmet-wearing blue players WHO HAVE ALREADY LEFT THE SERVER. I am absolutely not bashing any of the devs or gms I am very thankful for everything they do, I just wish they'd listen to/give us an update every once in a while. I don't remember the last time I saw rogean/nilbog/null/any other dev post in this section, although to be honest I can't really blame them. Any thread they try to make immediately becomes a flame fest.


Ferchristsake, the devs work their ass off to bring us this great server and all you people bitch about is how they don't listen to us. They have a "vision" just like Sony did and want to let us experience their vision. Just because they don't respond to every single thread repeated over and over you whiners post doesn't mean they don't care about the server but it also doesn't mean they want to implement what you keep begging for...

Gert

[Darwoth]

I'm so tough but I can't take the grind and it takes soooo long and its no fun and I want instant 50 and no boats and free gear and...


Real red players know how to put up with the harshness of leveling along with the PvP.

The emu players that claimed they were red have proven how blue they really are...the other emu boxes spoiled them.

you do realize myself and a great many of the red folks posting in this thread are 50 and have been for quite some time right? what level are you again?

[Humerox]

pardon me for not poopsocking in three weeks to 50 Dar.

you guys should have seen this coming. I'm 23...and enjoying the ride.

also...you make 50 in less than a month and claim you're red?

c'mon bro.

[Palemoon]

you do realize myself and a great many of the red folks posting in this thread are 50 and have been for quite some time right? what level are you again?

You do realize that you have already said most of your "guild" quit in the 30's because it was too hard for them right?

[Chett]

You can tell who the red and blue players are in this thread. The red players do not fucking want to kill 8000 gnolls to reach lvl 12 and play 20 hours a day of straight pve to be able to pvp. There's already a server for that. This server is basically blue 99 with a dash of pvp thrown in. The blue players still cling to the one argument they constantly rehash (ITS CLASSIC THO ITS EVERQUEST ENJOY THE RIDE) and that's just fucking dumb and ignorant. It took me a solid 9-10 days of /played to get 50 and that's with a baller ass XP group going at all times everyday pretty much. No way I would have been able to do this had I not been on break from school. The population is so low right now to the point where most people can't find groups, and a lot of classes aren't good at soloing. I would definitely have quit by now had I not had my group of players to play with. Even tho I can solo efficiently as a shaman I still would quit the fucking game if I had to do that grind by myself.



From your state of View, your right. But you need to learn and accept, that there are people around that do not ignore you, they just prefer it the opposite way you do.

Hardcore PvP'er since 1996. But also alot of Blue in me, its called common sense. And the XP i made with u ingame so far, u got a lot of Common Sense too. Use it.

[Billbike]

you do realize myself and a great many of the red folks posting in this thread are 50 and have been for quite some time right? what level are you again?

God bless Mage swords AMIRITE

[Darwoth]

You do realize that you have already said most of your "guild" quit in the 30's because it was too hard for them right?

i don't realize that, thought i said most of my guild are folks with careers, multiple children and wives that require regular fucking and as such can not dedicate the time to play as things stand.

even still many would come back if the population picked up, as it is they see the declining numbers and are unwilling to grind for 2 months only to reach a competitive level as the plug is being pulled.

[Darwoth]

God bless Mage swords AMIRITE

yeah, i have lots of friends, mages chief among them in my guild of wizards shamans and druids.

or perhaps you are just a moron.

[Darwoth]

pardon me for not poopsocking in three weeks to 50 Dar.

you guys should have seen this coming. I'm 23...and enjoying the ride.

also...you make 50 in less than a month and claim you're red?

c'mon bro.

lol a level 23 near 2 months after launch chastising level 50s for being unable to handle the grind.

please shut the fuck up.

[Chett]

or perhaps you are just a moron.

What Peter says about Paul, say more about Peter, then about Paul.

[bomaroast]

I think the people who say the community in game is a complete 180 from on these forums are the people who have found a clique to join. Those of us wandering around with a handful of people on friends and no guild get to experience the brunt of this community and it simply sucks. Goodbye population.

I really want to play, but I keep getting pushed away because you guys suck so very much.

[Humerox]

lol a level 23 near 2 months after launch chastising level 50s for being unable to handle the grind.

please shut the fuck up.

That's really more ironic than you think, bro.

Get on an alt and come shut me the fuck up. I spend most of my time in Unrest. I ain't hidin' bro.

[Darwoth]

What Peter says about Paul, say more about Peter, then about Paul.

yeah but i am not peter and i was not talking to paul

[Darwoth]

That's really more ironic than you think, bro.

Get on an alt and come shut me the fuck up. I spend most of my time in Unrest. I ain't hidin' bro.

will do, give me a few days to get motivated enought to make one.

hopefully the rest of your compatriots are in the same level range.

[Humerox]

They are. See you in Unrest, bro.

[cameroncoolcarter]

HELLO! DITCHING BLUE TO PLAY WIHT U ALL!

keep it goin!

[Chett]

yeah but i am not peter and i was not talking to paul


Sure thing, i didnt expected u get the point anyway, Peter. U might try a Pay to Win MMO, maybe.

[Billbike]

yeah, i have lots of friends, mages chief among them in my guild of wizards shamans and druids.

or perhaps you are just a moron.http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran.jpg

[Steaks]

no one is going to come here and level with no gear at classic xp rate if they have a char on blue unless its fun

the fun is gone with the population , most zones are empty now , theres no awesome pvp , everyone left cause of the grind

ive said it 50 times , no casuals will come here and do this grind with no gear andpvp

you still have time to increase the xp , my solution FIXES ALL PROBLEMS and guarantees a very high population , lots of fun and pvp


make it 10x xp till level 50 ( Beta speed )
open kunark and make 50-60 normal xp speed

epic pvp in kunark dungeons
epic pvp in OT / DL
epic pvp in kc / seb
people level fast enough to not care if they are geared
people can camp their own gear
people accomplish something in reasonable time frames
casuals come back
win win win win win

[Jirr]

no one is going to come here and level with no gear at classic xp rate if they have a char on blue unless its fun

the fun is gone with the population , most zones are empty now , theres no awesome pvp , everyone left cause of the grind

ive said it 50 times , no casuals will come here and do this grind with no gear andpvp

you still have time to increase the xp , my solution FIXES ALL PROBLEMS and guarantees a very high population , lots of fun and pvp


make it 10x xp till level 50 ( Beta speed )
open kunark and make 50-60 normal xp speed

epic pvp in kunark dungeons
epic pvp in OT / DL
epic pvp in kc / seb
people level fast enough to not care if they are geared
people can camp their own gear
people accomplish something in reasonable time frames
casuals come back
win win win win win


That was tried on the last vztz box and failed.

[Steaks]

ok i think your vz/tz box failed cause it was full of assholes

we have some nice casual people here from blue , like myself * IM CASUAL *

not from blue

but point being i spent about a week in crushbone meeting nice casuals who all liked eq , were friendly and were unhappy with xp gain

all but 1 quit

xp is the key nothing else dudes

[Bkab]

vz/tz didn't fail because of lack of interest. i don't see what's so hard to understand about that - it failed because the people running the server were fucking reets. it's the opposite here. there is a lack of interest developing, but the guys running the server are awesome.

[Steaks]

awesome or not it does not matter

xp is too slow , People arent going to do this

ive said it 50x times

CASUALS ARENT GOING TO DO THIS XP THEY WILL GO TO BLUE , MORE GEAR MORE GROUPS

is this thing on

[Tassador]

so everyone here only enjoys pvp at level 50?

[Steaks]

im not 50 , no where near it

im 20

and the only pvp i see is in oasis , theres 2 pks that come and gank people nightly

chances are you wont kill them , or they will escape only to come back 10 mins later while you are leveling

if you go to unrest there are a few twinks that log on , but unless your attacking people leveling , theres no pvp

[Zalaerian]

so everyone here only enjoys pvp at level 50?

Prty much

[Steaks]

concentrate all the pvp to 50-60 range , roll kunark , beta xp

nonstop fun

group v group

people log in

everyone gets geared

casuals get to play and compete

win win win win win

[Cast]

This thread is fucked already, RIP sweet thread

[Rikimeru]

we dont want clasic stupid we want to pvp over raid content stfu and go immerse on blue

if you dont want classic then you are on the wrong fucking box genius

[Vile]

If I could implement P99's sweet, sweet hax blox, Crucify VI would triumph.

[Lulz Sect]

http://i.imgur.com/Cr7xB.jpg

[Billbike]

if you dont want classic then you are on the wrong fucking box genius

"classic" is relative to the aspects that each individual player selectively chooses to remember.

[Cast]

"classic" is relative to the aspects that each individual player selectively chooses to remember.

this, except if you listen to me because I actually played all of '99 hardcore as a 12 yr old on Rallos and know my MOTHA FUCKIN PVP

[Steaks]

classic for me is pre kunark

which sucks imo , eq begins at kunark

you still kill vox naggy and phinny , and planes are still relevant

it just means fire opals and black sapphires are rare lol , what else seriousley

guk / solb items are good? yippie

[Steaks]

this, except if you listen to me because I actually played all of '99 hardcore as a 12 yr old on Rallos and know my MOTHA FUCKIN PVP

im thankful i didnt have these type of games available at 12

even at 12 i was still very active with friends and girls

i look back at my life and was thankful eq didnt even exist till i was 20 , ever wonder what would happen if you had EQ And were robbed of all your awesome youth experiences?

ill tell you


youd sound like cast !

[Massive Marc]

im thankful i didnt have these type of games available at 12

even at 12 i was still very active with friends and girls

i look back at my life and was thankful eq didnt even exist till i was 20 , ever wonder what would happen if you had EQ And were robbed of all your awesome youth experiences?

ill tell you


youd sound like cast !

Most of us could do both (mind you I wasn't 12, but still in my teens) EQ then Girls, then more EQ. not hard broski.

[Steaks]

dunno i always felt like there was never enough time even through 20-25 to hang out with all your friends or girls , never a second to stop and breathe

i had an epic youth tho , and im very happy internet didnt even exist or id have sat home and played it

and typed out stupid shit on meaningless forums to be read by retards playing a dying game on a dead server

[Massive Marc]

dunno i always felt like there was never enough time even through 20-25 to hang out with all your friends or girls , never a second to stop and breathe

i had an epic youth tho , and im very happy internet didnt even exist or id have sat home and played it

and typed out stupid shit on meaningless forums to be read by retards playing a dying game on a dead server

its call priorities. Pussy>EQ>Friends. l2life.

[Chett]

"classic" is relative to the aspects that each individual player selectively chooses to remember.

Here we go. U might add, that objectivity is a very tricky thing. Or, in other Words, for those who studied - non existent.

[Filthed]

its call priorities. Pussy>EQ>Friends. l2life.

sounds like priorities of a teenager tryin to be cool or some frat jock. But then again i live in colorado where i can walk across the street to an asian spa, what do i know

[Massive Marc]

what do i know

how much pussy costs ?

[Palemoon]

dunno i always felt like there was never enough time even through 20-25 to hang out with all your friends or girls , never a second to stop and breathe

i had an epic youth tho , and im very happy internet didnt even exist or id have sat home and played it

and typed out stupid shit on meaningless forums to be read by retards playing a dying game on a dead server

Hey, I feel the same way. Kind of thankful I was already an adult when EQ started.

Poor cast.

[Tassador]

PVP'ing on a head full of acid on tz in 1999. That experience will never be captured again in my eyes.

[xblade724]

well i've actually been working on a gm event......

if you have ideas you'd like to see implemented send me a pm and i'm happy to work with you to help you run the events. You don't have to be a guide to run an event :)

Sirken and i have some fun ideas planned too for when he comes back into town.

Drunken kelethin race :)


tldr -> If the server sucks so bad and you are the savior you believe yourself to be then quit polluting the boards with negativity and talk to nilbog about helping to develop the game and join the team! You can still play as a dev ... depending on what you do.

There are a lot of people posting suggestions to improve the server BECAUSE we love the server and want more people. Ignore the negative flames (responding in rage is asking for more trolling) and concentrate on the people trying to provide constructive feedback.

I'm a programmer -- I can help code, although I don't have much time (FT college + PT job), but if you want someone that can help now and then..

[Slave]

Changes that would draw the actual PvP crowd:

Hardcoded Teams - SZ, VZ, TZ
Item Loot - RZ
Boost PvE exp rate and lessen PvE exp loss - SZ
Remove the Play Nice Policy - SZ
Remove the artificial level range to PvP (only if there are teams) - SZ

[Buto]

That's really more ironic than you think, bro.

Get on an alt and come shut me the fuck up. I spend most of my time in Unrest. I ain't hidin' bro.

Just curious, were you Marlboro Man in Darkfall?

Edit : I also agree with everything Darwoth said. I got burnt out from the grind even though I only leveled to 20 on first char then 16 on second. I'll be back eventualy but the population erosion does have me question why. Please consider making some sort of change focused on population increasing, i'm sure you have your own ideas as well (devs).

Don't put me back on the waiting list for Darkfall 2.0 news, that grind is worse.

[Steaks]

Changes that would draw the actual PvP crowd:

Hardcoded Teams - SZ, VZ, TZ no
Item Loot - RZ i will quit right now
Boost PvE exp rate and lessen PvE exp loss - SZ yes
Remove the Play Nice Policy - SZ have you learned nothing
Remove the artificial level range to PvP (only if there are teams) - SZ are you an idiot

[purest]

too lazy to read any of this thread besides skimming op but seems like he pretty much nailed it

[Humerox]

Just curious, were you Marlboro Man in Darkfall?

Edit : I also agree with everything Darwoth said. I got burnt out from the grind even though I only leveled to 20 on first char then 16 on second. I'll be back eventualy but the population erosion does have me question why. Please consider making some sort of change focused on population increasing, i'm sure you have your own ideas as well (devs).

Don't put me back on the waiting list for Darkfall 2.0 news, that grind is worse.

Nah...never played Darkfall. Last PvP game was Shadowbane. The nickname came from P99 guildees, lol.

I understand where Dar is coming from...but the whole idea of the box was the polar opposite. It's frustrating to watch people want to whore up the server with instant gratification.

my ideas have been plainly stated...I know we got probs, but instant 50 is not the solution.

[LizardNecro]

tldr -> If the server sucks so bad and you are the savior you believe yourself to be then quit polluting the boards with negativity and talk to nilbog about helping to develop the game and join the team! You can still play as a dev ... depending on what you do.

Hi Amelinda,

Just wanted to say from my perspective as a developer, when I joined p1999 about a year ago, I was very excited, and I sent PMs asking how I could contribute. I never heard anything back. Don't know if this is a common experience, but I just assumed they weren't interested in having other coders join the team.

Of course it's certainly possible that Nilbog just didn't repond, or he forgot, or any other perfectly normal reason. It's also true that I could also have pressed on and pinged more.. but I didn't hear back so I just assumed there wasn't interest.

If there is real interest in getting more devs to join, I would suggest a "potential dev FAQ" posted somewhere, with a list to the source code, how to build, how to run unit tests, etc. There are many red players who are also developers like myself that I'm sure would love to help.

[Slug]

Changes that would draw the actual PvP crowd:

Hardcoded Teams - SZ, VZ, TZ
Item Loot - RZ
Remove the Play Nice Policy - SZ
Remove the artificial level range to PvP (only if there are teams) - SZ

The PvP crowd cares about PvP, not bullshit rulesets. None of those are attractive to the masses and only impact a few idiot roleplayers that have some hangup on how they think the mechanisms of PvP ruleset servers should look.

The PvP crowd wants to PvP, that's it.

[Lazortag]

Changes that would draw the actual PvP crowd:

Hardcoded Teams - SZ, VZ, TZ
Item Loot - RZ
Boost PvE exp rate and lessen PvE exp loss - SZ
Remove the Play Nice Policy - SZ
Remove the artificial level range to PvP (only if there are teams) - SZ

Shut up Wehrmacht.

[Sniperfire]

I'm so tough but I can't take the grind and it takes soooo long and its no fun and I want instant 50 and no boats and free gear and...


Real red players know how to put up with the harshness of leveling along with the PvP.

The emu players that claimed they were red have proven how blue they really are...the other emu boxes spoiled them.

this i just a lazy troll all the red guys are here grinding or done with grinding bringing us to a pop of what 70? sound familiar ? Its hard to get other to stay the way it is, if we want a steady pop over 100 we have to change something....clearly. adding more zones will spread an already thin pop out so what do we do?......how about some of the things that people are asking for what a fucking concept. this isnt a thread to flex your e-peen and tell us how blue we are etc.. bottom line we have gone through enough servers to know what works and what kills pop like i said 5 months ago when i told you blue assholes this would happen and you just ran your mouths like you are now.

and all of this classic bullshit is so stupid there is a classic server its done well and its got a loyal pop..red does not have to be classic to be awesome ..it simply needs to cater to the pvp population if you want to know how to do that listen to the people playing on red if not listen to the blues that come here while they med up to troll..

thread closed

[Lazortag]

How can you say all the red players are done grinding, when over 400 of them quit due to the experience being too slow?

[Sniperfire]

cause most of those were tourists

[Humerox]

this i just a lazy troll all the red guys are here grinding or done with grinding bringing us to a pop of what 70? sound familiar ? Its hard to get other to stay the way it is, if we want a steady pop over 100 we have to change something....clearly. adding more zones will spread an already thin pop out so what do we do?......how about some of the things that people are asking for what a fucking concept. this isnt a thread to flex your e-peen and tell us how blue we are etc.. bottom line we have gone through enough servers to know what works and what kills pop like i said 5 months ago when i told you blue assholes this would happen and you just ran your mouths like you are now.

and all of this classic bullshit is so stupid there is a classic server its done well and its got a loyal pop..red does not have to be classic to be awesome ..it simply needs to cater to the pvp population if you want to know how to do that listen to the people playing on red if not listen to the blues that come here while they med up to troll..

thread closed



This would all hold true if the population was as low as you say. The population has more than 70 on at 0450 weekdays. It's leveled at ~200 (peak players), give or take a few and depending on day.

These extremely low pop numbers are getting ridiculous. We can actually do just fine with what we have. I'd like to see more, but it's do-able with what we got.

like now...130 on at 1730 EST on a Monday.

[Steaks]

+1 manacannon

but devs dont read any of this we are basically pissing in the wind

[Tombom]

this i just a lazy troll all the red guys are here grinding or done with grinding bringing us to a pop of what 70? sound familiar ? Its hard to get other to stay the way it is, if we want a steady pop over 100 we have to change something....clearly. adding more zones will spread an already thin pop out so what do we do?......how about some of the things that people are asking for what a fucking concept. this isnt a thread to flex your e-peen and tell us how blue we are etc.. bottom line we have gone through enough servers to know what works and what kills pop like i said 5 months ago when i told you blue assholes this would happen and you just ran your mouths like you are now.

and all of this classic bullshit is so stupid there is a classic server its done well and its got a loyal pop..red does not have to be classic to be awesome ..it simply needs to cater to the pvp population if you want to know how to do that listen to the people playing on red if not listen to the blues that come here while they med up to troll..

thread closed

preach it

[Snufz]

How can you say all the red players are done grinding, when over 400 of them quit due to the experience being too slow?

Red99+Blue99 on Red99 Release=Even.

Blue99 + 400 People 2 months later.

Pvpers were the ones whos clearly quit.

GTFO, you troll every half way helpful thread.

[BigTB]

How can you say all the red players are done grinding, when over 400 of them quit due to the experience being too slow?

just wanted to take this opportunity to let you know you are a total faggot

[Kelsar]

10 Reasons why this server just got better.

[PVPBetaChamps]

what reasons???

[xblade724]

"how about some of the things that people are asking for what a fucking concept"

preach it

+1
Out of these COUNTLESS threads regarding this, I think all the community desires is ONE dev reply responding to this without silence or rage with the plans and their thoughts. There are the few trolls that don't contribute, but we're posting this stuff for a reason - we LOVE this server and want it to live!

How about 1 nice dev update in response to these issues and suggestions <3

[PVPBetaChamps]

gotta ban ppl they dont have TIME

[Lazortag]

Red99+Blue99 on Red99 Release=Even.

Blue99 + 400 People 2 months later.

Pvpers were the ones whos clearly quit.

GTFO, you troll every half way helpful thread.

Congrats on your suspension! Anyways, if you look through these forums you will see many posts confirming that former VZTZ players could not handle classic exp rates (their brains were just not large enough). For evidence, look no further than the sworn testimony of the red players themselves. To say that blue99 players can't handle classic exp rates is absurd, considering blue99 has classic exp rates.

[PVPBetaChamps]

Snufzz isn't suspended or banned

you r dum, u r really rlly dum

[Lazortag]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s231/keaton85/lol-1.jpg

So holocaust members are suspended, and Snufz is a holocaust member. Wouldn't that mean he's suspended?

[fiegi]

false advertising

[PVPBetaChamps]

means ur dum and have no insider information

[xblade724]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s231/keaton85/lol-1.jpg

So holocaust members are suspended, and Snufz is a holocaust member. Wouldn't that mean he's suspended?

holy sh*t when did this happen ?

[Humerox]

holy sh*t when did this happen ?

like an hour ago...:eek:

[PVPBetaChamps]

:cool:

[SearyxTZ]

I am disappointed in Xantille =[

Too much time spent around the bad kids (Kringe, Titanuk, etc)



I'd be embarrassed if I spent all that time leveling up only to get banhammered because I tried to cheat some raid mob. Jesus christ guys. I'm not even trying to be an ass here, just feel kinda bad for yall.

[fiegi]

Am I considered a bad kid?

[Uthgaard]

So what exactly was the exploit?

[SearyxTZ]

No u are a fine young man + model red99 citizen

[fiegi]

ya I got caught in the crossfire

[PVPBetaChamps]

So what exactly was the exploit?

pull naggy

watch naggy do nothing

[SearyxTZ]

ya I got caught in the crossfire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCwn1NTK-50

[Uthgaard]

pull naggy

watch naggy do nothing

Shit, that's been going on for almost a year. Remember those posts Toop made those about people killing him in the wall. He was retarded, but it was the same issue.


03[01:22] * Xzerion (whocares@HIDE-DAC7A090.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) has joined #p1999staff
[01:26] {Xzerion} can someone pull naggy's corpse out of the floor for us? the stealth unleashing caught everyone by surprise
[01:29] {Hobby} we didnt...pull him out, we were clearing teh inside 2 firegiants and just finished when naggy comes storming down ther stairs, its all on video
01[01:30] {Uthgaard} really? even from you? stealth unleashing?
01[01:30] {Uthgaard} has there been a patch?
[01:31] {Xzerion} dunno what else you would call it, he was leashed since the server came out and now hes not
[01:31] {Xzerion} im not complaining
01[01:32] {Uthgaard} what were you expecting to happen? him to get hung up on the door so you'd have first engagement on the encounter logs while you cleared the giants?
01[01:33] {Uthgaard} this isnt a hotline for your guild issues, its the staff channel
[01:33] {Xzerion} dude, seriously dont even start, IM THE ONE who pointed out to rogean that kinsawt was fighting that giant and said we dont have a case
01[01:33] {Uthgaard} then dont come in here jumping to conclusions with conspiracy theories
[01:33] {Xzerion} never accused anyone of a conspiracy
[01:34] {Xzerion} something changed
[01:34] {&Rogean} the leash was removed several weeks ago because guilds were exploiting it to indefinitely kite a mob without getting hit
[01:34] {&Rogean} which is an exploit
[01:35] {Xzerion} i think thats a good decision
[01:35] {&Rogean} The person who pulled magi rokyl threw something at him as he pathed across the entrance to the lair, thus getting aggro on naggy and thinking oh the leash will save me cause I can exploit pull like that, well not anymore.. naggy went after the puller and he pulled it straight to the raid

[PVPBetaChamps]

yep, nizzarr used all these hax

[Xantille]

I am disappointed in Xantille =[

Too much time spent around the bad kids (Kringe, Titanuk, etc)



I'd be embarrassed if I spent all that time leveling up only to get banhammered because I tried to cheat some raid mob. Jesus christ guys. I'm not even trying to be an ass here, just feel kinda bad for yall.

Wasn't my fault.

Our guildleader Littlegyno ordered the hit on Nagafen. Had to carry it out.

[PVPBetaChamps]

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/mmorpg-general-discussion/192788d1326166867-project-1999-red-classic-everquest-pvp-uthgaard.png

[Vile]

Wasn't my fault.

Our guildleader Littlegyno ordered the hit on Nagafen. Had to carry it out.

told that gypsy fuck to wait.... <backs into shadows>

[PVPBetaChamps]

Wasn't my fault.

Our guildleader Littlegyno ordered the hit on Nagafen. Had to carry it out.

http://i44.tinypic.com/wmogw.png

[lethdar]

Hoho banning 1/7-1/8th the server's active population when selectively enforcing rules should be added to the list

[Xantille]

Hoho banning 1/7-1/8th the server's active population when selectively enforcing rules should be added to the list

:(

[PVPBetaChamps]

Hoho banning 1/7-1/8th the server's active population when selectively enforcing rules should be added to the list

you can't ban which does not log in

I miss ur voice in vent

[lethdar]

you can't ban which does not log in

I miss ur voice in vent

I miss you too pal, no mic on tiny laptop :(:(

[pojab]

wow you can still play as a dev? no wonder rules are being arbitrarily enforced.

[PVPBetaChamps]

wow you can still play as a dev? no wonder rules are being arbitrarily enforced.

ridiculous!

[solid]

This server failed b/c I didn't play here. We can go ahead and close this thread now.

[Gorgoloth]

I don't think this server has failed at all, it seems to be thriving if your part of the Greater-Fay community.

[Jon Lemon]

I don't think this server has failed at all, it seems to be thriving if your part of the Greater-Fay community.

kelefornia my *****

[Alex]

Who the hell is Jon Lemon (no offense Jon Lemon)

[Jon Lemon]

Who the hell is Jon Lemon (no offense Jon Lemon)

http://www.biographyworld.net/~chuckayoub/John_Lennon_Biography.jpg

[pojab]

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/6/1/128883270168964290.jpg

[PVPBetaChamps]

Lets revisit all of the points brought up in the OP because shit still buggered

[Nirgon]

Agreed. I love the devs, but this is true. A simple "we're working on these major things.." sticky would take out 50% of the trolls on this forum and reassure us that we aren't being ignored. What appears to be little things may be big enough for others to quit -- perhaps just a little response from the devs saying "xx will be fixed next patch in a few weeks" may have kept hundreds of people here.



When I saw a dev respond to global chat, the response was this, and I actually found the original quote:



..This is not a zerg community at this point, or even the point when this was posted (not that long ago). How often do you honestly think spammers would occur? Perhaps constant retardation, but that's every zone, even in RL. With such little population (especially those that play aruond my time, late Hawaii time), the community NEEDS global ooc.



Agreed. You have to realize that most people joined this server came FROM p99 blue -- they've already had the "classic experience" and the grind. They want some action, or why the hell would they give up their p99 blue character for this new identical classic server, but with pvp?

It sounds bad in the books, but REALISTICALLY, take away hybrid penalties (initially it was thought more like D&D style where hybrids are better than others... but that really isn't the case, which is why they later removed these penalties on live) and boost up the exp more.

Personally, I think RZ ruleset would have been a lot better. Hell, even if you bagged all your stuff, you lose coin, reputation, you spawn at your bind point, spend 10 minutes to med up, and then you run back NAKED to a well equipped individual prepared for your arrival that you are already outmatched for when GEARED, alas you are naked vs this pker that already won vs you the first time! There are significant penalties for dying even if everything is bagged. Especially at higher lvls when people stray away from bind points.

Zerg rushers? Lol, what the hell are they gonna do? If you die in pvp and you spawn next to the person that killed you, you are OUT OF MANA!!!! What the hell can they do ?? If it's melee, they can only bind in cities, so it's no biggie.



I'm FOR selective adherence when it comes to improving gameplay (+exp, LFG tools, chat..) but major game changing mechanics that only effect 1 class, allowing the common wizard to dominate everyone instead of it being a rarity, is ridiculous - this was something major that had no reason to be here; I'd consider it almost a bug. This should have been removed from inventory, removed from game asap. Maybe throw in a goodie to make up for their work so they don't cry.

But when it comes down to it, this server should use classic as a GUIDELINE and a TOOL, not 100% - things have changed over these years, including our ages and free time. This needs to be considered and changes need to be accepted if it will give us an overall better experience playing.



Agreed. Leaderboard , not sure how hard that'd be to implement... but I am definitely for RZ ruleset. Hell you since the items are so selective, if you are SMART about your surroundings, you will never lose an item! This creates excitement though, knowing that someone could have forgot to bag a precious item. It's like a "rare drop" from a PC! Makes the game very thrillseeking when pvping. If anything, you know you dropped them to their bind points and they lost all their mana instead of feeling bad that they just lost exp and you gained nothing from it.

Losing xp is DEMORALIZING, but losing an item just makes you want revenge, which is fun for pvp. Exciting to announce to zone the trolls of treasure obtained from someone with a nice screenshot attached.



Agreed. This is.... no words. Just, agreed ^



I believe the server CAN RECOVER if action is taken!

* I believe that most this server came from blue p99 and have already experienced the classic experience (grind) and want some action! +exp boost

* People want to group with their friends and have a reason to group with others! +grouping bonus

* People want to play the class they enjoy the most and NOT get extremely out leveled by their friends! Hybrid penalties? Remove them!

* A community, especially small, wants to know they are being heard. Spend 5 minutes a month to create a sticky showing what you are working on! Show us we are being heard!

* FIX RESIST SYSTEM

* Create a special "come back" promotion and put it on the blue MOTD! Maybe have a GM event or two during this time, put a fireworks npc or something fun in west freeport for some come back event thing, offer the blues that if they get a lvl 50 on red, they get a title "of rallos zek, of tallon zek, etc" ... chances are if they played to level 50 on red, they WONT return. Just some easy promotions that don't really effect the game in whole. Make it sound exciting like when we were all excited pre-launch! Overall, just make people feel excited to return and try all the new changes that people want! How many people are still back on p99 thinking guards still don't assist?

Imagine a big motd on blue "Try P99 RED come-back event! PERMANENT +exp boost, +exp grouping bonus, global ooc, stickied upcoming patch notes, and revamped pvp system (RZ rules? Eh, whatever it is)! If you have the courage to get lvl 50, receive a special title on blue server!"
_______________

Have a little faith .. although the devs need to have this faith too for this to work ;)

(Edit: If CASTER is not trolling this thread, than you know it's serious business.)

Edit 2: I'd also like to add that super small bugs that can fixed rapidly, such as Boastful Bellow knockback, that have been announced for countless amounts of time, should be updated before something like ninja patching the Isle Madman in Eruds Crossing to be scowl instead of dubious... I believe that priorities need to be better.


Still a chance for people to come back.

People seeing these problems fixed in the patch notes will return. Period.

Hell one of the issues with the dragons is something blue needs fixed anyways.

[Fjolvar]

Back to blue for me..there's just not enough people on red and it takes way too long to find a xp group at lower levels.

[Hovis]

1> worst possible timing for release, had it been released 6 months sooner things would be much better, instead it was released right before the holiday season and during other major launches. releasing veeshans peak and epic quests on the blue server did not help either.

2> complete lack of attention from the devs, shit that was reported in early beta continues to be broken (dots with no icon, whirl, dozens of others), the only attention the server gets is the occasional early morning system boardcast threat that we better not train each other or else. as an aside we have been waiting for a defined set of rules since the server opened and have yet to recieve one.

3> no global chat, does not make a fuck if little jimmy gets his feelings hurt after being pked by a mouthbreather saying "u mad bro?" when there are 150 or so on at peak during the weekend global chat is needed, hence the reason the carebear blue server had one until its population picked up.

4> xp grind, i do not like the idea of increasing xp, however reality is that 2/3 of my guild quit between level 30 - 40 because they have wives, kids and jobs that do not mesh with 6 hours per level, this is undoubtedly the same for every other guild as well. the bluebie mantra of "enjoy the journey man! not the destination!" absolutely does not apply for the majority of players on any pvp server in any game ever made.

5> no multiboxing, again this is something i do not like as it creates an environment where everyone has a druid or shaman buff/port bot and eliminates half of my class specific advantages. however unless you join a zerg guild and are willing to deal with the idiots in such a guild you are not getting a group most of the time, allowing boxing would make it possible for small groups of friends to be self sufficient.

5> selective adherence to whats classic or not, ice comet not requiring a vox kill months ahead of schedule is "insignficant" and warrants no change, yet things like nerfing tradeskills down to the 200 cap is vitally important.

6> no penalty for pvp death, 100 copper and 1% of your enemies level is not an incentive to kill or not to be killed, in fact it is for most people a complete waste of time and mana as they now have to spend ten minutes medding to full (longer if buffs got dispelled). at least give us a fucking leaderboard and/or a serverwide kill message if you are not going to put in the classic eq penalties in terms of item loot or a real xp death.

7> "improved" resistance system that sees magic based nukes land better than fire/cold nukes, stuns landing more often than not, roots on 150 mr targets, ebolts all day long on 140 poison resistance and so on. this had to of been fucked with numerous times under the radar since launch because it is not how it was during beta.



on average the server runs 150 - 160 primetime now, in a few weeks it will be at or close to 100, and then the atrophy rate will likely double until it bottoms out around 50 - 70.

if drastic and sweeping changes are not made directly the server is going to take a shit and never recover, which is unfortunate because i have been enjoying myself and the classic (ish) eq experience again, but as things stand it appears i will be headed back to ipy2 in about a month =/

+++1

[Rydar]

They fix recharging wands/halfling insta gate caps and inform Darwoth no he cannot trade scam/ninja loot or train.

Never hear from him again

win/win for the server

[Lulz Sect]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh09vmZ6on1qzdgkdo1_500.gif

[Ssleeve]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=34103
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31288

As it was discussed to death back in April, a FFA PvP server isn't going to attract many 'new' people (new meaning people who haven't played on any of the VZTZ boxes). We were confined to the previous combined box populations plus a few stragglers. And given that, this server is pretty healthy with 200 players.

You'll get a few loners here or there, but nothing is going to deter new players more than not having people to start with. This is amplified by the fact that there's a lot of classes that aren't going to solo well (especially at lower levels). There's a reason that almost every new MMO has PvP teams.

Obviously, I'm not advocating switching the server to teams as it's way too late for that). Even if you adjust teams (hardcode no crossteaming, all classes available to two teams, raid zones FFA), teams still has issues much like FFA.

If you recreate a server that's basically a more stable VZTZ aimed at the VZTZ playerbase, did you really expect the population to greatly exceed VZTZ simply because it's got a 99 tag on it?

This guy was right, there is so few new people coming to the server the only guilds that stand a chance all come to the server together.

Also more frustrating is those said pre-packaged guilds grief the shit out of the outnumbered new players which results in them either quitting or joining Nihilum when they get in there 40's since they are the only guild that doesn't grief for the sake of grief and make people hate them.

[aborted]

This guy was right, there is so few new people coming to the server the only guilds that stand a chance all come to the server together.

Also more frustrating is those said pre-packaged guilds grief the shit out of the outnumbered new players which results in them either quitting or joining Nihilum when they get in there 40's since they are the only guild that doesn't grief for the sake of grief and make people hate them.

I just learned about this server about 3 weeks ago, and the only guild to really grief me was holocaust. By grief i mean kill me naked. I had friends here before i joined the server but its been a real good experience. I have tried to help all the lowbies i run into, but xp is tough when you don't know anyone or you can't find a group.

One thing i don't understand is why ban people for so long for boxing accounts. I mean considering how little people play on the red server it doesn't make sense to ban people for plvling character that they worked hard to lvl in the first place. I guess i can understand it on a blue server where there is 500+ people but not on a server with less than 150. Ban people for exploiting and hacking, but not for duel boxing.

diablo 3 isn't going to kill this server btw, there is NO game out there like EQ. Never will be.

[Ssleeve]

Level up more you'll experience it.

[oldfish]

4> xp grind, i do not like the idea of increasing xp, however reality is that 2/3 of my guild quit between level 30 - 40 because they have wives, kids and jobs that do not mesh with 6 hours per level, this is undoubtedly the same for every other guild as well. the bluebie mantra of "enjoy the journey man! not the destination!" absolutely does not apply for the majority of players on any pvp server in any game ever made.


6> no penalty for pvp death, 100 copper and 1% of your enemies level is not an incentive to kill or not to be killed, in fact it is for most people a complete waste of time and mana as they now have to spend ten minutes medding to full (longer if buffs got dispelled). at least give us a fucking leaderboard and/or a serverwide kill message if you are not going to put in the classic eq penalties in terms of item loot or a real xp death.


Thats called cognitive dissonance

[Srs Not Ames]

Shut up u fat mongloid so immersed in ur obesity ur mind is chicken grease

LOL

[Ssleeve]

Opinions from anyone in or ever in brotherhood are punishable by death. Shut up noob.

mad

[Bhubbles]

I agree with all the points listed. Its sad that we really could have a great server with just a little help from the dev's. I know its FTP so I can't complain but a little bit of TLC and these idea's implemented would really turn things around fast!!!

[Humerox]

Opinions from anyone in or ever in brotherhood are punishable by death. Shut up noob.

No u.

[kazroth]

Damn, thought I just opted out of rants 'n flames - apparently not...

[Dubee]

i bet hate/solro will inflate population, then d3 will steal some, then kunark will double population.

Holocaust /boohoo

[Haul]

i bet hate/solro will inflate population, then d3 will steal some, then kunark will double population.

Holocaust /boohoo

Pretty good detective work there Captain Obvious.

[Malevz]

why do people complain about something that is free

i hope all you fucktards donate before you cry about dev attention

Love the server, most fun I've had since original EQ. Don't listen to the people complaining. I cancelled my other game subscriptions, I'm happy to start paying my $20 a month to red99

[Vile]

Love the server, most fun I've had since original EQ. Don't listen to the people complaining. I cancelled my other game subscriptions, I'm happy to start paying my $20 a month to red99

RMTer?

[Darksinga]

I agree with all the points listed. Its sad that we really could have a great server with just a little help from the dev's. I know its FTP so I can't complain but a little bit of TLC and these idea's implemented would really turn things around fast!!!

Server still seems good for eq emu.

[Harrison]

This is classic EQ.

If you're crying because it's classic, I've got news for you. You're an idiot.

You came here knowing it was going to be based off of P99(classic EQ) and you're still crying that it's exactly that.

Rogean told you, this will be based off of P99, not that failbox VZTZ jokeserver.