Group-friendly AE for group encouragement?

[xblade724]

In Luclin, they made it so that pvp area effects (point blank ae ONLY; not targeted ae) do not effect immediate group members or group members pets.

This encouraged grouping .. a LOT.. for instance, bards have all these utility spells, but forced to solo (or can group and do as much dps as a warrior and as much tank ability as a rogue..).

So many spells deem useless in a group. Hell, even in PvP, If I'm not solo, I can't use any AE anything because it will effect my group member(s)!

Encourage grouping, patch this in, raise our population.

[Humerox]

This is def something that's needed. Even tho it's not classic, it would improve things here.

[ZEROSUM]

poll options seem biased went for douchey troll over bluebie magget

[Darwoth]

umm, no

dont need shadowbane style "pvp" consisting of 15 retards standing in a pile casting point blank AE's

[Wildino]

umm, no

dont need shadowbane style "pvp" consisting of 15 retards standing in a pile casting point blank AE's

U think some people waited shadowbane to do it ?

I remember a huge battle in VZ, with a corpse spotted at sebilis entrance ... ;)

[Tombom]

50/50

[xblade724]

8/7. ;)

And about the AE thing, rofl, don't be a scrub:

As if we have the population to find a full group of bards, ALL at the same level and correlated in the same place..

Of course the people that can't AE are obviously voting no. For those that want to group, wouldn't it be nice to actually get bards in your group, or allow your chanter to AE mez when shit breaks loose?

[ZEROSUM]

half the fun grouping up as a bard is ae mezzing half the group on a bad pull and punching your pals to break it

[xblade724]

tried to do that earlier, "OK MAGE, IM GONNA MEZ, BACK OFF PET OKAI?" *mage pet relentlessly attacks and roots me after mez* /sigh

[ZEROSUM]

thats the other half

[xblade724]

thats the other half

The other half is doing it once and realizing that you are useless in a group and never doing it again. In fact, just go solo / swarm altogether. A grouping class that is forever solo due to stupid ass rules. There's a lot of bards on this server -- would definitely get more groups

[Tombom]

its simple man, AE kiting is an XP BONER

its great, especially for whatever hybrids you decide to carry up with you (lvl 30 paladin lfg)

but if you cannot find usefulness as a FUCKING BARD in your group than someone is doing somthing wrong

[Uthgaard]

half the fun grouping up as a bard is ae mezzing half the group on a bad pull and punching your pals to break it

I almost spit out my drink while reading this.

The other half is doing it once and realizing that you are useless in a group and never doing it again. In fact, just go solo / swarm altogether. A grouping class that is forever solo due to stupid ass rules. There's a lot of bards on this server -- would definitely get more groups

That's 3 halves. And if you think your functionality in a group is limited to 2 aoe dots, you should try a simpler class.

[georgie]

BAD BARD END OFF

[xblade724]

I almost spit out my drink while reading this.



That's 3 halves. And if you think your functionality in a group is limited to 2 aoe dots, you should try a simpler class.

Eh, I wasn't including his half. so 2 halfs = whole , sir.

not just ae dots, but also ae mez, ae slow, it continues on. It's so funny - for you, i have to literally explain the "etc etc" part of every post. I apologize - my posts are meant for scholars apparently; I will try and remember this and post everything bluntly with no references or room for critical thinking, or any thinking.

[Tombom]

haste/hp regen/mana regen/fucking selos/ resists/snare

a million other utilites

LEARN THEM

[Lazortag]

Eh, I wasn't including his half. so 2 halfs = whole , sir.

not just ae dots, but also ae mez, ae slow, it continues on. It's so funny - for you, i have to literally explain the "etc etc" part of every post. I apologize - my posts are meant for scholars apparently; I will try and remember this and post everything bluntly with no references or room for critical thinking, or any thinking.

Use the ae mez properly then, and have your groupmates disease cloud themselves, or not position themselves in a really stupid way. Every time I grouped the ae mez wasn't a problem. And if a pet gets caught in the way, tell your groupmate to /pet back off. A little communication on your end can save the devs the work of making ae's work non-classically.

[The Neck Beard]

I always enjoyed nuking my groupmate to death so he didn't eat a xp death on VZ.

[xblade724]

Use the ae mez properly then, and have your groupmates disease cloud themselves, or not position themselves in a really stupid way. Every time I grouped the ae mez wasn't a problem. And if a pet gets caught in the way, tell your groupmate to /pet back off. A little communication on your end can save the devs the work of making ae's work non-classically.

It's classic that most pet classes do NOT pay attention enough for it to be efficient. It's also tough when I'm indoors, such as unrest, where everyone is in close quarters. Not everyone has disease cloud ready to go. Rarely see shadowknights and necros generally don't group much either (again no encouragement to group)

Unfortunately, semi-afk people while grouping for long periods of time is very classic and makes this topic void (quite often, actually). In the ideal world, you are correct, though.

haste/hp regen/mana regen/fucking selos/ resists/snare

a million other utilites

LEARN THEM

Lol what? Yea I can haste, but you have to realize it's pvp and I actually don't seem to run into many melee lately on this server. Hp regen? Yea always on. Mana regen? I'm <lvl 29 or whatever level it is. Resists? Rarely useful in pve. Snare? Rarely useful in the groups i've been in. If mobs run far without dying, your group blows anyways. There's also a million other utilities that are AE and useless in a group. I'd really like to utilize my slow especially, but AE..

[Lazortag]

Lol what? Yea I can haste, but you have to realize it's pvp and I actually don't seem to run into many melee lately on this server. Hp regen? Yea always on. Mana regen? I'm <lvl 29 or whatever level it is. Resists? Rarely useful in pve. Snare? Rarely useful in the groups i've been in. If mobs run far without dying, your group blows anyways. There's also a million other utilities that are AE and useless in a group. I'd really like to utilize my slow especially, but AE..

The bard snare is a targeted Slow as well. Saying it's "rarely useful" is like saying... actually I don't have a good analogy, but it's just a silly thing to say.

[Albane]

The bard snare is a targeted Slow as well. Saying it's "rarely useful" is like saying... actually I don't have a good analogy, but it's just a silly thing to say.

Have you had good luck with the AoE mez in groups? I have just been sticking with the single target mez and have no problem holding down 3 mobs and keeping at least 1 group buff up. It would be easier if I could hold down all 3 mobs with AoE, I just don't recall it being useful on Live so I never bothered with it here.

[Steaks]

even past pop most aoes still hit the group or raid

it was only select aoes , mostly pbaoe's from wizards / mages / shamans that didnt

most bard songs still hit everything * i was a bard *
and all rains / tbaoe's still hit everyone

and you really think they are going to do all that coding? wtf

[Billbike]

Why stop with that, make it where group members can't attack each other, hell lets just all turn gay.

[Steaks]

ready to be gay billy lols

[Cast]

Lazerfag u in my range yet or what big pimpin, I can't wait for you to charm specs and send them at me OH GODDDD

[xblade724]

The bard snare is a targeted Slow as well. Saying it's "rarely useful" is like saying... actually I don't have a good analogy, but it's just a silly thing to say.

ah didn't know it's a slow too -- i get that next level

[xblade724]

even past pop most aoes still hit the group or raid

it was only select aoes , mostly pbaoe's from wizards / mages / shamans that didnt

most bard songs still hit everything * i was a bard *
and all rains / tbaoe's still hit everyone

and you really think they are going to do all that coding? wtf

And I said pbaoe -___- try reading the OP, scrub. It's probably just a 0 or 1 determining if it can hit players / pets.

[Steaks]

a lot of pbaoes still hit group or raid mates

most of them in fact , it was only very select ones and every one hit pets , it was never even optimized cause by then red was dead on live , GMs hated red cause of all the petitions hacks and assholes

who can blame them , but yea

they wont ever put that code in , if you want to aoe go to blue , i hear they aoe in skyfire

[Cast]

ur sig is gayest