Another new guy here thread.

[Swollen_Beef]

My experience thus far has been several hours i played as a shadow knight about 9 years ago. But i have since forgotten all that info. just that i played it for about 3 hours. so im essentially walking into P99 with a clean slate.

And recently leveling up a wizard to lvl 3. (several more hours spent). i have yet to wander more than 300 yards outside the gates of Erdin.

but im thinking of starting another character as im not really feeling the wizard. That said, i have some questions. Since the standard google search yields nothing useful since everything pertains to EQ now, not EQ back in the day.


stat caps? are there any? Diminishing returns?

At higher levels, does the race/class matter as much? such as an ogre warrior opposed to a halfling warrior? If race/class does matter, is there a site/link with said info?

Ive seen a post somewhere here in my lurking that warriors and i think bards were horrible picks for newbies. any reason why?

what class would be good for a newbie to learn the game and not be frustrated by overwhelming info?

Is twinking an issue the way it is in WoW? those with characters they can afford to pimp out, will I be slowing down a group (so to speak) because my numbers arent up to their standard?

And a friend of mine (who has logged hundreds of hours in classic eq) has stated she would join me as a cleric. what would be a class to best compliment her?

At what level should i start seeking out groups? Or, what level does soloing become so painful that grouping is the best option? (i like grouping btw).

i know i have more questions, but this was what i could think of.

[Maytone]

http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Zones

This will help a great deal

Orgs/haflings, each class has racial abilitys, some are better for each class depedning what you are playing, what each one is is listed on the site I linked.

Warriors/bards are fine picks, only downfall is as a warrior you are highly group dependant so if you can't find a group then you are kinda screwed. Bards are awsome for groups/solo but they have a -40% exp penelty so people get frustrated trying to fight that exp grind.

Newbie class to learn on: Mage, great in groups can also solo like a champ so not dependant in groups.

People twink but it's not an issue with finding groups.

Your friend to play if you play a cleric...enchanter/monk/warrior(really any class would work tho)

Can find groups at any lvl. Soloing is only painful if you do not enjoy doing it, I would suggest necro/bard/mage...mage being the main pick

[Uthgaard]

255 stat hard caps, 200 soft caps in cases where it applies.

Certain combos will level more slowly, some races have benefits, ogres are immune to frontal melee stun, iksars and trolls have regen, all large races have slam. Halflings have sneak, dark elves and wood elves have hide. Dwarves start with 50 sense heading. Anything that looks like it could live in your apartment can't see for shit in the dark.

Warriors are a product of their gear. Bards are a product of skill and familiarity with the game. Bards can be attractive to newbies, but you may not like the experience.

IMO, start with a shaman. SoW will let you make lots of mistakes and get away with it.

Here twinking is whatever you can give your character. Which is anything that isn't no drop, except in some extreme cases where it does include them. No matter how bad you are, most groups won't notice as long as you aren't afk with a full mana bar for minutes at a time.

Clerics are a very needy class at low levels. Play what you want and either find groups or make her adapt. Groups start as early as 5, orcs in gfay/ec, gnolls qhills. How effective soloing is at any given level depends on your class.

The details about what's best will be argued to no end, so you'll get the specifics from other posters.

[Vondra]

My experience thus far has been several hours i played as a shadow knight about 9 years ago. But i have since forgotten all that info. just that i played it for about 3 hours. so im essentially walking into P99 with a clean slate.

And recently leveling up a wizard to lvl 3. (several more hours spent). i have yet to wander more than 300 yards outside the gates of Erdin.

but im thinking of starting another character as im not really feeling the wizard. That said, i have some questions. Since the standard google search yields nothing useful since everything pertains to EQ now, not EQ back in the day.


stat caps? are there any? Diminishing returns?

At higher levels, does the race/class matter as much? such as an ogre warrior opposed to a halfling warrior? If race/class does matter, is there a site/link with said info?

Ive seen a post somewhere here in my lurking that warriors and i think bards were horrible picks for newbies. any reason why?

what class would be good for a newbie to learn the game and not be frustrated by overwhelming info?

Is twinking an issue the way it is in WoW? those with characters they can afford to pimp out, will I be slowing down a group (so to speak) because my numbers arent up to their standard?

And a friend of mine (who has logged hundreds of hours in classic eq) has stated she would join me as a cleric. what would be a class to best compliment her?

At what level should i start seeking out groups? Or, what level does soloing become so painful that grouping is the best option? (i like grouping btw).

i know i have more questions, but this was what i could think of.


Stat caps: You can get up to 255 in a stat at the moment. Diminishing returns exist for mana gained from int/wis over 200, rest seems to be subject to some debate.

Race choices: The higher level you get and (especially) the better gear you get, the less relevant your race choice is as gear adds more and more +stats. Ogre does really add a fair bit more stats than other races though and trolls have their innate regen for one. visit wiki.project1999.org and look through the race info for details on each race. I won't lie and say that it truly "doesn't matter", but the differences aren't significant with good gear.

Warriors/Bards for newbies. Warrior is an uphill battle simply because they are very gear dependant and starting out, of course you can't really afford the good stuff. That said, lots of mid level "second tier" gear is quite cheap at this point so it isn't really THAT bad getting them geared up. This goes for all melee really. Bards aren't nearly as gear reliant and I wouldn't say are a bad choice. In the end though, best bet is starting out with a caster of some sort but it certainly isn't required.

Good classes for newbies: Necro is a safe bet, so is druid. Druids are good for raising money and for getting around the world easily since they have ports, not so desirable for 6 man groups however. Mages clear through weaker mobs fast with their fire pet that has a damage shield. Shaman have all sorts of tools to be effective solo or in groups, even without good gear. Honorable mention to Enchanters, which while they require a good degree of situational awareness, aren't gear dependant and both solo and group extremely well.

Twinking: It's "an issue" in that many people are twinked. As far as getting in groups, not so much. Also if you're a caster, people will invite you based on class rather than gear.

Duoing with a cleric: Clerics pair well with many classes, so this isn't very restrictive. If you're doing any sort of soloing where you (or even a pet) are taking damage, you can pair well with a cleric.

When to group?: Once you reach level 5-6 or so, feel free to start grouping. Probably the most populous places to go as a very low level for grouping are greater fay (orc hill camps and then crushbone) or east commons (orc camps, then dervish camps in nro, on to oasis etc).

[webrunner5]

I don't think I have ever been asked what gear I have to be invited into a group.

All Hybreed's have a 40% or more penality. If you don't like to pull a Monk is a bad choise. If you can't walk and chew gum at the same time forget about a Bard. Twisting is NOT easy, while running and fighting. Mage kind of sucks now because of pet class penality. You have to do 51% or more damge now on pet classes to get full XP solo. Not a problem in groups though.

It still comes down to what you like to play. Every class has good and bad things. Even a Ranger is not that bad solo. Just don't try to get a group with one lol. Some people make the worse classes just for the challenge to level them.

Just have fun and enjoy it. That is why there is 8 Charactor slots. I can tell you a Necro, if you like to play them, is a very good first choise to help farm gear for other toons you want to start. They pretty much have every trick in the book on here. Pretty killer solo. :cool:

[fischsemmel]

Twisting is NOT easy, while running and fighting.

Heh.

If twisting while moving or while using an assist key is hard, then wtf is any modern MMO? Ridiculously impossible?

[webrunner5]

Heh.

If twisting while moving or while using an assist key is hard, then wtf is any modern MMO? Ridiculously impossible?

Give me a break. How many people really in this game can play a Bard well without Melody as a help. Sony didn't add it to the game for no reason trust me. That is why there is always threads about how few good Bards there are. And most of the good ones are women for some reason.

[Swollen_Beef]

I don't think I have ever been asked what gear I have to be invited into a group.


WoW messed up my view of the MMO community, im sure you can understand. (why i no longer play it)

But to be welcomed into a group with open arms the way it used to be, will be a very nice change.

[teekanc]

Webrunner's avatar is hot.

[Fourthmeal]

think outside the bun

[Swollen_Beef]

figured i would post occasional updates. me playing classic EQ for the first real time. (i imagine my experiences will not be unlike those from 12 years ago.)

settled on paladin (not worried about the XP penalty). started in freeport

Im so lost. There is no one to hold my hand, no ant trail to follow, no minimap with dots and markers to tell me who to talk to. I have taken to talking to every NPC i come across to see if they might have a job for me. no luck thus far. I have been saving my practices from leveling and only spending (frugally) the points on what is currently relevant. I have gotten lost several times in freeport, but i have discovered new areas in the process. areas that have been beneficial.
I have learned to pick my fights carefully. You character is not godmode as in current mmos. And have died many times due to careless mistakes. But with each death, i have learned something new.
The game so far is frustrating, but 12/13 years ago, half a million people were thinking the same thing.

[Justinuti]

figured i would post occasional updates. me playing classic EQ for the first real time. (i imagine my experiences will not be unlike those from 12 years ago.)

settled on paladin (not worried about the XP penalty). started in freeport

Im so lost. There is no one to hold my hand, no ant trail to follow, no minimap with dots and markers to tell me who to talk to. I have taken to talking to every NPC i come across to see if they might have a job for me. no luck thus far. I have been saving my practices from leveling and only spending (frugally) the points on what is currently relevant. I have gotten lost several times in freeport, but i have discovered new areas in the process. areas that have been beneficial.
I have learned to pick my fights carefully. You character is not godmode as in current mmos. And have died many times due to careless mistakes. But with each death, i have learned something new.
The game so far is frustrating, but 12/13 years ago, half a million people were thinking the same thing.

The biggest piece of advice I can give you as a newb, is to keep the Project 1999 wiki open to alt tab to for reference.

Dont worry about "questing", despite the name "Everquest" there arent very many quests to go on compared to modern MMOs like WoW, Rift, ect. Theres no only very few "Go collect 10 bear asses and return them to me" things, or just quests in general. Worry more about chatting up people, killing monsters, and making friends.

Dont be afraid to tell groups your a newb, most of them will spam your chatbox as soon as they find out with tips, hints ect, youll probably get a few handouts as well, but dont expect or ask of it of course

Good luck. The game has real charm to it. Good choice on Paladin too, great newb class IMO.

[Justinuti]

Also, if youre duoing as cler/pal (hopefully youre dwarves, theyre the best for both classes and best starting area in the game IMO...CB nearby, bone chip turn ins, CB belt/pad turn ins, close to unrest/MM), you will encounter some DPS problems later on. Once youre close in on level 20, look into heading to http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Unrest and try to buy the weapon http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Ghoulbane (usually around 500p these days at most)

[Vondra]

figured i would post occasional updates. me playing classic EQ for the first real time. (i imagine my experiences will not be unlike those from 12 years ago.)

settled on paladin (not worried about the XP penalty). started in freeport

Im so lost. There is no one to hold my hand, no ant trail to follow, no minimap with dots and markers to tell me who to talk to. I have taken to talking to every NPC i come across to see if they might have a job for me. no luck thus far. I have been saving my practices from leveling and only spending (frugally) the points on what is currently relevant. I have gotten lost several times in freeport, but i have discovered new areas in the process. areas that have been beneficial.
I have learned to pick my fights carefully. You character is not godmode as in current mmos. And have died many times due to careless mistakes. But with each death, i have learned something new.
The game so far is frustrating, but 12/13 years ago, half a million people were thinking the same thing.

Personally I think experiencing the minor gains in power, getting lost, dying (and succeeding) and eventually making it all come together is what makes classic EQ what it is. The first character experience is just excellent.

[Truheart]

what is your char's name?

[fischsemmel]

The first character experience is just excellent.

Yep, definitely this. I had more fun starting out a necro on this server and making my own pp and farming my own gear and leveling up to eventually farming frenzy and lord before kunark came out than I have had in an MMO since... well probably since original EQ.

[Swollen_Beef]

what is your char's name?

Kellzz

Thought about using my forum name, but running around for 20 levels as Swollen is silly, that and it dances in the grey area of the naming rules, so its probably best Kellzz is used.

[maverixdamighty]

if you started in fp grind out some exp outside the gates then head to ec and go to the tunnel there and ask for buffs to help you level. you may also find some nice people to give you some gear since this is your first character. Send me a tell on mavpal and i'll see if I have any paladin stuff banked for you.

[webrunner5]

Paladin is a very fun class to play, but you will need to group as a tank or go to zones that have a lot of undead in them. Solo to regular mobs a Paladin is not very good at damage. But at higher levels they are a great class to play.

Just way too slow to solo at really high levels, but a needed class in groups. I really like them in a group. In Velious they get even better as pullers.

[webrunner5]

Webrunner's avatar is hot.


Yeah that is Paris Hilton. Pretty crazy woman with all the money she has lol. :D