thinking of hanging up the belt

[Caravelle1]

After a month of playing 5-8 hours a night. It dawned on me that I'm not really having that much fun. I've played the majority of PvP mmo's starting with Ultima Online, shadowbane, FPS shooters, Warcraft, Starcraft, and Dota clones.

Everquest PvP mechanics really suck. It's by far the single most imbalanced PvP game I've played. I'm not saying this cause I'm upset with my class or anything, in fact I think chanters are too good and probably need to be toned down here. PvP is BORING, there's very little variability in the skills or how you can use them on people.
EQ does not promote even fights. In my history of EQ > Playing on Sullon Zek for 4 years, and a few previous boxes to this one. I have NEVER seen an even matchup, or anything close to resembling a fair engagement. Out literally thousands of fights someone is either low on health, the groups are uneven, there's a mob agro'd on them when you engage, OOR healers, trains, zoneline disconnects.

I WANT a challenging encounter. DAOC comes to mind if anyone has ever played it PvPers respected each other and enjoyed even fair fights, so much so that if there was a 8 vs 8 fight going on, and some random people walk up and attack, the groups would disengage from each other, kill the randoms, and then restart the fight.

Not sure what I can ask for or expect. What I thought would be cool was a EQ server in a classic setting, but balance the chars for PvP. Which wont happen ever, so I'll look for something else maybe.
Exp bonus wouldnt hurt either, I'm near 50, but I feel really bad for people and see them quitting too because they find time to spend 3 hours grinding, and make 1 blue of exp.

[Nirgon]

If you don't know all the tricks and nuances, yeah it's going to seem bland. Plenty of spoilers have been dropped around here to get you started. Find a guild, do some group v group and contest spawns.

[billyinorganic]

play to win and not to have "Fun"

[Szeth]

This isn't livejournal.

[Ninja]

After a month of playing 5-8 hours a night. It dawned on me that I'm not really having that much fun. I've played the majority of PvP mmo's starting with Ultima Online, shadowbane, FPS shooters, Warcraft, Starcraft, and Dota clones.

Everquest PvP mechanics really suck. It's by far the single most imbalanced PvP game I've played. I'm not saying this cause I'm upset with my class or anything, in fact I think chanters are too good and probably need to be toned down here. PvP is BORING, there's very little variability in the skills or how you can use them on people.
EQ does not promote even fights. In my history of EQ > Playing on Sullon Zek for 4 years, and a few previous boxes to this one. I have NEVER seen an even matchup, or anything close to resembling a fair engagement. Out literally thousands of fights someone is either low on health, the groups are uneven, there's a mob agro'd on them when you engage, OOR healers, trains, zoneline disconnects.

I WANT a challenging encounter. DAOC comes to mind if anyone has ever played it PvPers respected each other and enjoyed even fair fights, so much so that if there was a 8 vs 8 fight going on, and some random people walk up and attack, the groups would disengage from each other, kill the randoms, and then restart the fight.

Not sure what I can ask for or expect. What I thought would be cool was a EQ server in a classic setting, but balance the chars for PvP. Which wont happen ever, so I'll look for something else maybe.
Exp bonus wouldnt hurt either, I'm near 50, but I feel really bad for people and see them quitting too because they find time to spend 3 hours grinding, and make 1 blue of exp.

If you find anything good let me know lol

[Palemoon]

You are concentrateing too much on the pvp. This server is about everquest, the pvp just adds to the immersion.

Never in a million years can you compare this game/server to something like Shadowbane.

This is still a 99.9 percent PvE game, only difference is instead of waiting in lines to kill dragons (or wtf ever they do on the blue server) we can fight for it.

So if you still like Everquest as a PvE game, you will like this (more).

[Fireapple]

EQ pvp isnt intended to be a challenging skill based competitive activity, its there to fuck up peoples days and settle or create disputes.

[Amuk]

Hey I know this sweet game.

[billyinorganic]

EQ pvp isnt intended to be a challenging skill based competitive activity, its there to fuck up peoples days and settle or create disputes.

[Truth]

giev

[Tombom]

giev

loots plz

[Zalaerian]

EQ PvP is more about knowledge of mechanics and which can be bent.

[compulsion]

- "After a month of playing 5-8 hours a night"

So um, nothing is fun 5-8 hours a day for a month straight. What are you expecting? The one, perfect fair fight from which you emerge victorious and all the glories of the world are bestowed upon you?

Since EQ is not providing the sense of validation and meaning that you expected, why not give Scientology a try?

[Knuckle]

After a month of playing 5-8 hours a night. It dawned on me that I'm not really having that much fun. I've played the majority of PvP mmo's starting with Ultima Online, shadowbane, FPS shooters, Warcraft, Starcraft, and Dota clones.

Everquest PvP mechanics really suck. It's by far the single most imbalanced PvP game I've played. I'm not saying this cause I'm upset with my class or anything, in fact I think chanters are too good and probably need to be toned down here. PvP is BORING, there's very little variability in the skills or how you can use them on people.
EQ does not promote even fights. In my history of EQ > Playing on Sullon Zek for 4 years, and a few previous boxes to this one. I have NEVER seen an even matchup, or anything close to resembling a fair engagement. Out literally thousands of fights someone is either low on health, the groups are uneven, there's a mob agro'd on them when you engage, OOR healers, trains, zoneline disconnects.

I WANT a challenging encounter. DAOC comes to mind if anyone has ever played it PvPers respected each other and enjoyed even fair fights, so much so that if there was a 8 vs 8 fight going on, and some random people walk up and attack, the groups would disengage from each other, kill the randoms, and then restart the fight.

Not sure what I can ask for or expect. What I thought would be cool was a EQ server in a classic setting, but balance the chars for PvP. Which wont happen ever, so I'll look for something else maybe.
Exp bonus wouldnt hurt either, I'm near 50, but I feel really bad for people and see them quitting too because they find time to spend 3 hours grinding, and make 1 blue of exp.

I feel ya bro, not anything about the PVP, but about the grind, keep sticking out to 50 and its fun.

[webrunner5]

1999 PvP is the best game going right now. One day you get PKed 5 times by some bastard and the next day you find him and kill his ass. It gets your heart going and puts a pit in your belly.

You want to quit one day and can't wait to get up the next day to play. I don't know of anything that has that power in a game?? It can be a rush. Good or bad.

[Massive Marc]

1999 PvP is the best game going right now. One day you get PKed 5 times by some bastard and the next day you find him and kill his ass. It gets your heart going and puts a pit in your belly.

You want to quit one day and can't wait to get up the next day to play. I don't know of anything that has that power in a game?? It can be a rush. Good or bad.

you need help broski

[bionicbadger]

can I have your stuff?

[Tassador]

i love everquest pvp cause it has threads about people quiting, QQ. If your playing 5-8hours a day thats why you hate it. I love crack but, if i do crack 8 hours a day i would be an unproductive crack head.

[Slave]

Teams alone would pretty much fix the Lonely Leveler syndrome. Add in item loot and a small exp bonus maybe to restart the server population? Sometimes it feels like I can't wait for this box to die already so we can get a real one started.

[Melveny]

I dot think balanced pvp is untill late game, when people are outfitted In gear. Some say gear ruins but I disagree.

With 0 resist items, getting one shot is not "fun pvp". When your actually fighting resisting , dispelling roots / debuffs back and forth 10-20 minutes, that is the pvp I like. Those epic fights are what makes it fun to me.

Since chanter was brought up. I had a fun go fight with natural yesterday. Caught him doing JC at a merchant, so he obviously had plat etc. Jumped on him he starts running trying to hide, I'm on his ass. He runs to bank and makes me Agro guard and tries to dick me and root mr with mob. I'm self healing tanking guard as he nukes me. My grp kills guard, I continue my fight with natural. He suprised with a mez before I crim pot. Chain mezzes me, I got a lucky resist or two, mez faded before refresh, I crim pot and chase him down. I failed q bash and a stu and he got gate off.

I know, I know TLDR.. But I had fun fighting him. No insta win wow pvp. Neither of us died but had a epic battle.

[Uberom]

After a month of playing 5-8 hours a night. It dawned on me that I'm not really having that much fun. I've played the majority of PvP mmo's starting with Ultima Online, shadowbane, FPS shooters, Warcraft, Starcraft, and Dota clones.

Everquest PvP mechanics really suck. It's by far the single most imbalanced PvP game I've played. I'm not saying this cause I'm upset with my class or anything, in fact I think chanters are too good and probably need to be toned down here. PvP is BORING, there's very little variability in the skills or how you can use them on people.
EQ does not promote even fights. In my history of EQ > Playing on Sullon Zek for 4 years, and a few previous boxes to this one. I have NEVER seen an even matchup, or anything close to resembling a fair engagement. Out literally thousands of fights someone is either low on health, the groups are uneven, there's a mob agro'd on them when you engage, OOR healers, trains, zoneline disconnects.

I WANT a challenging encounter. DAOC comes to mind if anyone has ever played it PvPers respected each other and enjoyed even fair fights, so much so that if there was a 8 vs 8 fight going on, and some random people walk up and attack, the groups would disengage from each other, kill the randoms, and then restart the fight.

Not sure what I can ask for or expect. What I thought would be cool was a EQ server in a classic setting, but balance the chars for PvP. Which wont happen ever, so I'll look for something else maybe.
Exp bonus wouldnt hurt either, I'm near 50, but I feel really bad for people and see them quitting too because they find time to spend 3 hours grinding, and make 1 blue of exp.

Shadowbane best PVP game of all time imo. They are actually close to releasing a emu server for it. Look up "Play to Crush". Shit will be sick.

[Scrooge]

I WANT a challenging encounter. DAOC comes to mind if anyone has ever played it PvPers respected each other and enjoyed even fair fights, so much so that if there was a 8 vs 8 fight going on, and some random people walk up and attack, the groups would disengage from each other, kill the randoms, and then restart the fight.

I've tried to make this happen several times in the past, on a classic DAOC emu-server: Uthgard, which resembles P99 in the way that it's made with very similar rules etc. Before Red99 was thrown on the table, it was a way for P99 players to enjoy some PvP on the side while getting their PvE on in EQ.

But most people from P99 couldn't handle the game very well, and would drop out before reaching L20+ (PvP can start as early as 24, depending on the skill of the player and the group they're with). It's a shame too, cause every time I raised a char on that server, I had tons of fun with it in PvP with the friends I brought over from my previous times there.

[Nirgon]

I got a fully templated out Thidranki stomper troll warrior there. The problem is the place is ghost town during US hours.

[mourning]

MMO Pvp isnt supposed to be fair and balanced if you want that please play counterstrike.

That game is perfectly balanced and very competitive and fun, I was cal-premiere and main for a while, it sounds like that is what you are looking for.

Provided you suck at fps try some RTS.

Everquest is not and was never a pvp game, it was never balanced, its an adventure with some pvp thrown in to keep it fresh and to have turf wars. That does not mean it isnt alot of fun, but wanting it to be balanced is not what it is in the first place.

DAOC also is not balanced, trust me I've played daoc since release on and off for years on almost every server with rank 11 characters. My crew all also has rank 11's scattered around and we competed at the top levels of 8v8 throughout different times. It's closer to balance than EQ, but it is not balanced by any means. DAOC was the most fun PVP game I have ever played but the pve sucks compared to eq, and Mordred is dead. This server is really the best thing out there for people like us, who enjoy challenge and not a themepark pussy handhold gaming experience.

WOW is pretty balanced but look at what that turned into? The game is a fucking horrible shitfest every class does every ability now, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Its EQ. Each class is cleary defined. You win with tactics and knowledge. You poopsock. People killed themselves over it. Its unbalanced. Its old and shitty. Its full of people with inflated ego's over a game that you can click and win.

BUT ITS THE BEST SHIT OUT THERE. LONG LIVE r99

[Caravelle1]

I've tried to make this happen several times in the past, on a classic DAOC emu-server: Uthgard, which resembles P99 in the way that it's made with very similar rules etc. Before Red99 was thrown on the table, it was a way for P99 players to enjoy some PvP on the side while getting their PvE on in EQ.

But most people from P99 couldn't handle the game very well, and would drop out before reaching L20+ (PvP can start as early as 24, depending on the skill of the player and the group they're with). It's a shame too, cause every time I raised a char on that server, I had tons of fun with it in PvP with the friends I brought over from my previous times there.

I just installed with a buddy, we have chars in all realms

47 druid
49 eld
2 40 blademasters
40 bard

45 thurgist
50 cleric
50 sorc
50 pally
50 infil

40 shaman
40 spiritmaster

What levle did oyu guys make it to? we could roll out sometime


And Nirgon we had the same problem, but we were just gonna wake up at like 5am US time and do a 2 hour run in their primetime lol

[Scrooge]

We've got 50s in every realm, but there's no interest in playing there again, atleast not at this time. Me and my compadres will be staying on Red99.

[Wotsirb401]

Nothing compares to DAOC RVR. I would be down to start on the Uthgard server if anyone wants to get back into DAOC

[Scrooge]

And as for there not being action during US prime time, that's not really true either. I've had PvP happen during EST prime time plenty of times, in battlegrounds especially.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8360/sshot280a.jpg

[skorge]

Sorry to see ya go bro...DAOC was awesome, miss those days!

[Dfn]

"Battlegrounds"

lol k

[mourning]

"Battlegrounds"

lol k

[Titanuk]

i sry i wont monkquest in your group anymore pal

[Cast]

Cya in a week.

Also, OP is a millionaire - still have the SS from him saying it in GC randomly.

Keep on truckin'

[Scrooge]

Nothing compares to DAOC RVR. I would be down to start on the Uthgard server if anyone wants to get back into DAOC

There's a new P99 Uthgard group brewin, check http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27688 & #uthgard on P99-IRC for details if you want in.

[Snukie]

After a month of playing 5-8 hours a night. It dawned on me that I'm not really having that much fun. I've played the majority of PvP mmo's starting with Ultima Online, shadowbane, FPS shooters, Warcraft, Starcraft, and Dota clones.

Everquest PvP mechanics really suck. It's by far the single most imbalanced PvP game I've played. I'm not saying this cause I'm upset with my class or anything, in fact I think chanters are too good and probably need to be toned down here. PvP is BORING, there's very little variability in the skills or how you can use them on people.
EQ does not promote even fights. In my history of EQ > Playing on Sullon Zek for 4 years, and a few previous boxes to this one. I have NEVER seen an even matchup, or anything close to resembling a fair engagement. Out literally thousands of fights someone is either low on health, the groups are uneven, there's a mob agro'd on them when you engage, OOR healers, trains, zoneline disconnects.

I WANT a challenging encounter. DAOC comes to mind if anyone has ever played it PvPers respected each other and enjoyed even fair fights, so much so that if there was a 8 vs 8 fight going on, and some random people walk up and attack, the groups would disengage from each other, kill the randoms, and then restart the fight.

Not sure what I can ask for or expect. What I thought would be cool was a EQ server in a classic setting, but balance the chars for PvP. Which wont happen ever, so I'll look for something else maybe.
Exp bonus wouldnt hurt either, I'm near 50, but I feel really bad for people and see them quitting too because they find time to spend 3 hours grinding, and make 1 blue of exp.

Its is people like you with your fair PvP hippie Bullshit that destroyed real PvP and made Designers introduce *puke* Battlegrounds *puke*. Please have a cup of fuck-you with a shut-up cookie.

[bobo2]

You want to quit one day and can't wait to get up the next day to play.[/QUOTE]

confirmed no job

[bobo2]

and btw leveling on uthgard is shit i have a level 30 shadowblade there , its so slow i ended up quitting to play on the i50 server which is garbage

those clowns arent smart enough to realize an xp bonus would help everyone either , what a coincidence

[Morninx]

Will trade an actual IRL for acct info. k thx.

[The Revanchist]

I've played the majority of PvP mmo's starting with Ultima Online, shadowbane, FPS shooters, Warcraft, Starcraft, and Dota clones.


only three of those are mmos.

[SamwiseRed]

same here brew

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b174/kormer/belt.jpg

shit is heavy to carry around.

[Lulz Sect]

confirmed mads

[fiegi]

say it ain't so

billy got forum banned????????

[Butthead]

i know where ur coming from man...

theres just not enuff ppl playing right now.

and the few who still play here are mostly assholes. look at the forums lol, they bitch n complain bout everything. its these kinda boners who chased alota the noobs out.

and besides the population problem, idk wtf is up wit the pvp.
seems majority of the pvp action is people waiting til ur low hp or fighting a mob.
and the few legit battles that take place, usually end in some1 pluggin.

it also sucks wanting to kill people when you know those same people will b in the zone with you tomorow... so do you want to kill every1? or join their group? =\
i use to havea low lvl ranger to kill people with when i didnt feel like leveling up my main..
ended up sellin em cause there simply no1 around To kill.


i think wer all jus hoping that Eventually, people will join this server again and it will b like it was at launch... >.>
although many seem to say that theres enuff ppl here alrdy and that 200 is more than enuff because it was the same as box.

idk to me 200 jus isint enough. killing the same handful of people over n over again is weak. wats the point in progressing if its just these douches lol.
its hard to dedicate time to a server full of fags.


i miss sullon zek...

rip

[Tombom]

tldr

[Bkab]

i wouldn't have read that dude's post even if it didn't look like it was written by a 3rd grader

[Nirgon]

Server was too red for some people

[SamwiseRed]

Server was too red for some people

[Leeyuuduu]

I WANT a challenging encounter. DAOC comes to mind if anyone has ever played it PvPers respected each other and enjoyed even fair fights, so much so that if there was a 8 vs 8 fight going on, and some random people walk up and attack, the groups would disengage from each other, kill the randoms, and then restart the fight.


Its is people like you with your fair PvP hippie Bullshit that destroyed real PvP and made Designers introduce *puke* Battlegrounds *puke*. Please have a cup of fuck-you with a shut-up cookie.

Have to agree with Snukie here, people bitching and crying because they got "added" and wanting fair 1v1 in the middle of a bridge is fucking ridiculous. DAOC was made for RvR, not PvP. Did anyone in Planetside ever bitch when their side got backup in a fight?? No. Must just be something about elves and kobolds that bring out the inner fag in some people.

Now back on topic, I never viewed EQ as a PvP game, so the lack of balance never surprised me..it is frustrating for sure at times, but it is expected. What it boils down to a problem of expectations I think.

[Shrubwise]

This isn't livejournal.

did haha

[bobo2]

be like it was at launch? dude once people leave they dont come back unless a drastic change happens

and the only thing that would bring people back would be a MASSIVE xp increase , and at this point it may be too late regardless , staff ignored everyone and now they get to enjoy their failure , yea people play , i do too

i probably will for a while , but without a packed server pvp wont be fun , as kunark is added will just be even more empty zones , i just logged on my level 8 to go be a dick in cb , oh coincidence , not 1 person in the zone , 2 people in gfay

/logoffski

[Arshis]

I think part of the beauty of EQ pvp was the imbalance. Nowadays games strive so hard to create balance that classes are constantly wrecked and rebuilt to achieve something that may never exist. (Hence the flavor of the months syndrome, where every patch made a class more powerful then all the rest.)

For those who never played on classic pvp servers. Leveling was not easy, even as a cleric on tallon I probably soloed 70% of my way to 50. But when Kunark came out I had a guild and comrades I could trust and was able to group 100% to 60. Anyhow this is just meant to be a helpful reminder that classic EQ took a lot of patience and good judgement (pick your fights wisely). If your a melee make a lot of friends.

[Filthed]

aion was good pvp,, waitin on tera or archeage this year ,, o ya and eqnext whenever

[FoxxHound]

After a month of playing 5-8 hours a night. It dawned on me that I'm not really having that much fun. I've played the majority of PvP mmo's starting with Ultima Online, shadowbane, FPS shooters, Warcraft, Starcraft, and Dota clones.

Everquest PvP mechanics really suck. It's by far the single most imbalanced PvP game I've played. I'm not saying this cause I'm upset with my class or anything, in fact I think chanters are too good and probably need to be toned down here. PvP is BORING, there's very little variability in the skills or how you can use them on people.
EQ does not promote even fights. In my history of EQ > Playing on Sullon Zek for 4 years, and a few previous boxes to this one. I have NEVER seen an even matchup, or anything close to resembling a fair engagement. Out literally thousands of fights someone is either low on health, the groups are uneven, there's a mob agro'd on them when you engage, OOR healers, trains, zoneline disconnects.

I WANT a challenging encounter. DAOC comes to mind if anyone has ever played it PvPers respected each other and enjoyed even fair fights, so much so that if there was a 8 vs 8 fight going on, and some random people walk up and attack, the groups would disengage from each other, kill the randoms, and then restart the fight.

Not sure what I can ask for or expect. What I thought would be cool was a EQ server in a classic setting, but balance the chars for PvP. Which wont happen ever, so I'll look for something else maybe.
Exp bonus wouldnt hurt either, I'm near 50, but I feel really bad for people and see them quitting too because they find time to spend 3 hours grinding, and make 1 blue of exp.

DAoC gogogogo.
Midgard! Come wiff me if you want tooo live. Okay actually you are better siding with Hibs. Everyone from here is on Hib, and Hib outpopulates Mid almost 2 to 1, and have all STR relics.

[Sorath]

The xp here needs a boost basically.

[Bruno]

One thing you will learn about the VZ/TZ emu community, they cry with the best of them, until they threaten to leave because they don't get what they want. On VZ/TZ emu the GMs basically caved to their every bitch. If there was one reason I don't play eq pvp anymore it would have to be because of them (the community), not because of game mechanics or how "hard" it is to level. It's probably just me getting old and not wanting to deal with a little kid's mentality.

[Chett]

One thing you will learn about the VZ/TZ emu community, they cry with the best of them, until they threaten to leave because they don't get what they want. On VZ/TZ emu the GMs basically caved to their every bitch. If there was one reason I don't play eq pvp anymore it would have to be because of them (the community), not because of game mechanics or how "hard" it is to level. It's probably just me getting old and not wanting to deal with a little kid's mentality.

There are dozens of reasons to skip this shit here. This brainfree community is just one...

[Dullah]

EQ pvp is actually the most enjoyable pvp I've had in a game. Not because its has a diverse array of skills and spells on every class, but because pvp in EQ is 10x as meaningful as any other PVP game I've played (all of them). Like nirgon and fireapple said, its about governing the game, fighting over the right to progress.

Also, know that Kunark is where the classes get much more balanced out. Until then, melee really have it rough. Hopefully they will fix resists and add melee knockback interrupts and all classes can get in on the action. After kunark, I don't think theres another more "balanced" pvp game out there. Every class has their benefits if you know how to take advantage of them.

[Arillious]

i know where ur coming from man...

theres just not enuff ppl playing right now.

and the few who still play here are mostly assholes. look at the forums lol, they bitch n complain bout everything. its these kinda boners who chased alota the noobs out.

and besides the population problem, idk wtf is up wit the pvp.
seems majority of the pvp action is people waiting til ur low hp or fighting a mob.
and the few legit battles that take place, usually end in some1 pluggin.

it also sucks wanting to kill people when you know those same people will b in the zone with you tomorow... so do you want to kill every1? or join their group? =\
i use to havea low lvl ranger to kill people with when i didnt feel like leveling up my main..
ended up sellin em cause there simply no1 around To kill.


i think wer all jus hoping that Eventually, people will join this server again and it will b like it was at launch... >.>
although many seem to say that theres enuff ppl here alrdy and that 200 is more than enuff because it was the same as box.

idk to me 200 jus isint enough. killing the same handful of people over n over again is weak. wats the point in progressing if its just these douches lol.
its hard to dedicate time to a server full of fags.


i miss sullon zek...

rip


200 on during non work/school hours is plenty for classic. There's already 4-5 people in every non newbie zone and around 10 people in all the mid to high level areas. As people start getting into the higher levels they will be forced to go to the only end game zones and more conflicts will ensue. That being said, more people would mean more conflict which would be better.

[Caravelle1]

I have 50s in every realm, if you guys make it up there, I'll tag along.
Uthgard is shit though IMO for lots of balance issues that they can't fix because they have no staff. RvR is set in classic age with NF RAs which automatically makes some classes OP especially at high RR.

It's brutal trying to RR10-11 people at RR4 (which is all you cAn get to in the BG)

I've been playing daoc live. There are 30-80 people in every realm on in Thidranki (24 bg) and Molvik (39 bg)
good thing is these BGs also avoid most of the MLs and Artifacts which ruined daoc 50 pvp.

[Diggles]

Daoc live is full of stealthers in NF that just insta shot everyone.

Battlegrounds may be fun, but RvR frontiers is where it's at.

[steakshop]

dude second thread you bumped 2 months old gtfo assberger

[PVPBetaChamps]

i know where ur coming from man...

theres just not enuff ppl playing right now.

and the few who still play here are mostly assholes. look at the forums lol, they bitch n complain bout everything. its these kinda boners who chased alota the noobs out.

and besides the population problem, idk wtf is up wit the pvp.
seems majority of the pvp action is people waiting til ur low hp or fighting a mob.
and the few legit battles that take place, usually end in some1 pluggin.

it also sucks wanting to kill people when you know those same people will b in the zone with you tomorow... so do you want to kill every1? or join their group? =\
i use to havea low lvl ranger to kill people with when i didnt feel like leveling up my main..
ended up sellin em cause there simply no1 around To kill.


i think wer all jus hoping that Eventually, people will join this server again and it will b like it was at launch... >.>
although many seem to say that theres enuff ppl here alrdy and that 200 is more than enuff because it was the same as box.

idk to me 200 jus isint enough. killing the same handful of people over n over again is weak. wats the point in progressing if its just these douches lol.
its hard to dedicate time to a server full of fags.


i miss sullon zek...

rip

[Ssleeve]

Cast's forum accounts shall blot out the sun.

But if it gets results w/e.

[PVPBetaChamps]

After a month of playing 5-8 hours a night. It dawned on me that I'm not really having that much fun. I've played the majority of PvP mmo's starting with Ultima Online, shadowbane, FPS shooters, Warcraft, Starcraft, and Dota clones.

Everquest PvP mechanics really suck. It's by far the single most imbalanced PvP game I've played. I'm not saying this cause I'm upset with my class or anything, in fact I think chanters are too good and probably need to be toned down here. PvP is BORING, there's very little variability in the skills or how you can use them on people.
EQ does not promote even fights. In my history of EQ > Playing on Sullon Zek for 4 years, and a few previous boxes to this one. I have NEVER seen an even matchup, or anything close to resembling a fair engagement. Out literally thousands of fights someone is either low on health, the groups are uneven, there's a mob agro'd on them when you engage, OOR healers, trains, zoneline disconnects.

I WANT a challenging encounter. DAOC comes to mind if anyone has ever played it PvPers respected each other and enjoyed even fair fights, so much so that if there was a 8 vs 8 fight going on, and some random people walk up and attack, the groups would disengage from each other, kill the randoms, and then restart the fight.

Not sure what I can ask for or expect. What I thought would be cool was a EQ server in a classic setting, but balance the chars for PvP. Which wont happen ever, so I'll look for something else maybe.
Exp bonus wouldnt hurt either, I'm near 50, but I feel really bad for people and see them quitting too because they find time to spend 3 hours grinding, and make 1 blue of exp.

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