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eqravenprince
12-19-2011, 01:41 PM
I am curious how fast you can make money soloing per hour, just grinding mobs and selling loot to NPC merchants. What zone, particular mobs/camp, level, and class? I'm level 27 Monk, and so far I haven't found a better place to make cash than hunting guards in HHK. Comes out to about 70pp every hour. Plus it's just convenient as hell to sell/bank right there, especially as a Monk with weight restriction. Was hunting Dark Elf guards in my early 20's. Wanted to know what other awesome places are out there to make some coin now and in my future levels.

john_savage1982
12-19-2011, 02:33 PM
there are a buttload of guard spawns in HHK - at higher levels they'll go down much quicker. With over 20-30 spawns at 18 minute/spawns, you're looking at nearly 400pp-500pp/hr.

Slave
12-19-2011, 05:42 PM
The average plat/hour rate of the highest level characters is generally accepted to be about 800-1000/hour.

Flunklesnarkin
12-19-2011, 06:18 PM
Fishing pole and bait will get you on your way to riches

Splorf22
12-19-2011, 06:54 PM
You can PL for twice that easily at 60.

Daldaen
12-20-2011, 12:09 AM
I get offers of 2-3k/hr for PLing quite often. As a 59 druid with a Manastone.

But camping something like Fungi Tunic or Hiero Cloak can, if your dice and the games dice are good, pay off much larger PP/hr rate.

As a monk you can likely get into those cash groups (fungi / hiero) or you can PL people. The rate you charge is largely based on your DPS / ability to continue PLing. So a monk with Fungi + good weapons + good haste can charge much more than a monk without.

At lower levels, honestly I wouldn't be too highly concerned with money until you get up into your 40s/50s where you can start farming things more reliably.

Stuff like... Hooded Black Cloak in Mistmoore goes for a solid 3-4k.

Slave
12-20-2011, 01:54 AM
Well, there's money, and then there's interacting with players and having to sell shit.

usedtobejubaloftorv
12-20-2011, 07:49 AM
roll a druid or a necro

Seriously, monks are one of the worst classes to play for resource accumulation. You'll make money faster levelling a druid from scratch... once you hit 29 people start paying for ports, once you hit 34 or so you can effectively camp quite a few money-items. Necros are even better item campers, although they get no port revenue and can't travel as quickly.

When you hit high levels and monks become highly desired dungeon pullers and general group DPS, you'll get access to items that you can sell for big money, but until then I would count on an eq-life of poverty - as you would expect a for a monk.

Hagglebaron
12-20-2011, 08:29 AM
Mo money mo problems

Hailto
12-20-2011, 02:49 PM
How do Clerics do money wise? I know you can get plat for rezzes, but aside from that?

Motec
12-20-2011, 03:44 PM
What turkey of a cleric charges for a rez? Clerics can do well but not for a while. Easy to duo some cash camps like freeti and hiero. Fungi king with BP or vp staff. But leveling?? No game.

eqravenprince
12-20-2011, 03:50 PM
How do Clerics do money wise? I know you can get plat for rezzes, but aside from that?

Find a Monk to group with =). He won't mind if you loot everything.

Ele
12-20-2011, 03:50 PM
This isn't 1999, clerics don't get all the gems anymore. People wised up to that. :(

Vondra
12-20-2011, 04:54 PM
What turkey of a cleric charges for a rez? Clerics can do well but not for a while. Easy to duo some cash camps like freeti and hiero. Fungi king with BP or vp staff. But leveling?? No game.

They don't need to charge do they? I assumed most people tipped anyway, I do.

Werlop
12-20-2011, 06:59 PM
They don't need to charge do they? I assumed most people tipped anyway, I do.

When naked level 50-60s beg for rezzes on the other half of the world, you can usually name a price. If they're in the same zone or the next zone over, usually clerics just take tips.

Slopknight
12-20-2011, 07:05 PM
As a level 17 enchanter i try to make money with wisp in WC. When they are all dead and that i am waiting for repop, i kill spiders and kodiak for silk and HQ pelt that sell well.

Hailto
12-20-2011, 07:06 PM
What turkey of a cleric charges for a rez? Clerics can do well but not for a while. Easy to duo some cash camps like freeti and hiero. Fungi king with BP or vp staff. But leveling?? No game.

That's a joke right? I have to pay for ports but you expect clerics to travel to you and rez you for free? Gtfo.

yraapt
12-21-2011, 09:41 AM
I agree with hailto, you're nutz if you think a cleric should stop what he is doing and rezz your butt for free. If he just happens to be standing over your corpse, then maybe, but even then you should offer a tip IMHO

usedtobejubaloftorv
12-21-2011, 01:04 PM
I port clerics not named Xosire for free

I call it a down payment on future rezzes


As far as cash drops go, if you don't give them to the cleric at least have the decency to cash out and buy peridots to cover his costs. Even though an occasional cleric might exploit this, for the vast majority of clerics they just want to cover their costs.

I played one for years! Clerics are not the class to make for money making. You do end up making money in the endgame as a cleric just because you get more group invites than anyone else and being a cleric enables your group to do things that groups without clerics just cannot.

Radiskull
12-21-2011, 01:18 PM
Not to derail the thread further, but as a cleric the way I decide whether I should be tipped or not is simple:

Why did I rez you? If it's because you sent me a tell, I think it's fair to expect a tip, but still don't get tips as often as I do. If I /ooc that I'm rezing before I head out, or you /ooc that you're looking for a rez, and I send you a tell? No tip necessary, that's a rez out of the goodness of my heart. No donation required or accepted even if offered.

Vondra
12-21-2011, 05:58 PM
Just play it safe and tip anyone you ask for anything if they aren't in your group, at least once you're established money wise. Doesn't even have to be a lot, just shows good will. Nothing pisses me off more than being asked for haste or something 3 times by someone wearing well over 100k worth of gear, that couldn't even give me 15p or something. That's good for an /ignore usually.

Believe me, we can tell who can afford it and who can't. If you stop me and you're level 22 wearing low level stuff, I don't expect a tip and will probably just hit cancel if you even try to tip me. If you're lev 57 and ask for clarity while wearing a planar suit and hiero cloak in sebilis, you should be tipping.

Ditto for any other class you're dealing with. When I leave the bank I always keep about 150p on me just so I have money to give. I'm not saying I tip 150p for everything but just keep that bit of cash on you for high levels, then if it turns out you don't hit the bank for days you have money for several small tips if you need to ask outside the group for random stuff.

Certainly could do worse than to carry a stack of peridots on you also. Give your cleric a few...maybe more than a few depending on situation. If everyone did, it wouldn't really cost them anything and you'd have your symbols every time. Hell if you want to tip one for a ress you could tip them with some peridots, they'll use em. As an enchanter I go through plenty of peridots also runing myself. Occasionally people tip me with a few peridots which I like.

For the outdoor stuff. It isn't going to kill you to at least pay 50p for a port. Are you an established player and using /ooc to get ports so much that this is a problem? If so, you're doing it wrong. If you want to tip more (or are getting a skyfire/EJ port) then by all means, tip more. If you're newer and really can't afford it, just say so.

Hailto
12-21-2011, 08:22 PM
Just play it safe and tip anyone you ask for anything if they aren't in your group, at least once you're established money wise. Doesn't even have to be a lot, just shows good will. Nothing pisses me off more than being asked for haste or something 3 times by someone wearing well over 100k worth of gear, that couldn't even give me 15p or something. That's good for an /ignore usually.

Believe me, we can tell who can afford it and who can't. If you stop me and you're level 22 wearing low level stuff, I don't expect a tip and will probably just hit cancel if you even try to tip me. If you're lev 57 and ask for clarity while wearing a planar suit and hiero cloak in sebilis, you should be tipping.

Ditto for any other class you're dealing with. When I leave the bank I always keep about 150p on me just so I have money to give. I'm not saying I tip 150p for everything but just keep that bit of cash on you for high levels, then if it turns out you don't hit the bank for days you have money for several small tips if you need to ask outside the group for random stuff.

Certainly could do worse than to carry a stack of peridots on you also. Give your cleric a few...maybe more than a few depending on situation. If everyone did, it wouldn't really cost them anything and you'd have your symbols every time. Hell if you want to tip one for a ress you could tip them with some peridots, they'll use em. As an enchanter I go through plenty of peridots also runing myself. Occasionally people tip me with a few peridots which I like.

For the outdoor stuff. It isn't going to kill you to at least pay 50p for a port. Are you an established player and using /ooc to get ports so much that this is a problem? If so, you're doing it wrong. If you want to tip more (or are getting a skyfire/EJ port) then by all means, tip more. If you're newer and really can't afford it, just say so.

+1

Motec
12-22-2011, 06:27 AM
That's a joke right? I have to pay for ports but you expect clerics to travel to you and rez you for free? Gtfo.

Hi.
Im a 60 cleric. With access to multiple 60 clerics. No it is not a drama to go Rex, ever. And being paid for it is insulting.

nymphloa
12-22-2011, 06:53 AM
Hi.
Im a 60 cleric. With access to multiple 60 clerics. No it is not a drama to go Rex, ever. And being paid for it is insulting.

Well you say that, but my experience of Clerics...even ones P lvling there mates in low lvl zones is unless you offer them oodles of plat they will not even look at you funny.

Mind you that has always been the way with churches ;) you want blessing? then you pay :p

shorttin
12-22-2011, 09:43 AM
Well you say that, but my experience of Clerics...even ones P lvling there mates in low lvl zones is unless you offer them oodles of plat they will not even look at you funny.

Mind you that has always been the way with churches ;) you wany blassing? then you pay :p

Flunklesnarkin
12-23-2011, 05:27 AM
That sounds below average for seafuries at the right time of night, if you have enough mobs...

gonna take this from a purely outsider point of view.. with no knowledge of eq


An average, or central tendency of a data set is a measure of the "middle" value of the data set. (Emphasis on Middle Value in case the apostrophes eluded you)

not a specific monster.. during a specific time of day... (not to mention that if the farming is that awesome the competition you'd have)

Same way you don't expect your stock broker to guarantee you 20% returns ever year (if he does.. reinvest now!!).. you shouldn't expect the ideal plat farming rate every day..

Can't believe i even have to explain this lol

So yes.. sometimes you will earn more than the "average" go ahead and pat yourself on the back and feel uber..



but back to the point.. yes this thread has gone way beyond the OP.. and would probably be more helpful if specific farming information for specific classes was discussed instead of random epeening(and as a friendly reminder the OP was asking about how to farm plat on his mid level monk..... but who reads original posts anyways.. only thing that matters is the last post >_>)

ShinraTensei
12-23-2011, 09:12 AM
Motec is win. That is all.

Motec
12-23-2011, 09:51 AM
Well you say that, but my experience of Clerics...even ones P lvling there mates in low lvl zones is unless you offer them oodles of plat they will not even look at you funny.



So offer them something to make it a non issue, go find a mage and deliver modrods or something, find a nec to twitch, whatever. DS the person theyre PLing for a few mins, take over healing. Make use of your available resources instead of throwing plat at problems and expecting people to give a shit.

falkun
12-23-2011, 11:05 AM
You mean throwing money at a problem won't fix it all the time? But I thought this was like the real world...

Hailto
12-23-2011, 01:43 PM
Motec here is in the minority, Clerics offer a service just like anyone else, when i start getting ports for free i'll travel to you and rez you for free. To think any different because of some weird philosophical view you have of what a cleric is, is stupid. Obviously if there is a reason why you cannot tip that is something different entirely, but if you have money, give something, its not a hard concept.

Pomaikai
12-24-2011, 12:35 AM
As a Cleric, I am rarely charged for ports. Why? Because the porter knows that there is a pretty darned god chance that one of the Cleric's that they port now will be the Cleric that rezzes them later. I don't expect it, and am always willing to tip what I can, but the vast majority of the time my tip gets canceled out by the porter. And trust me, I remember the folks who have helped me out as I've leveled up in this game. You go out of your way for me, and I'll repay the favor in the future. At least that's the way I look at it.

As for making money as a Cleric, we do tend to lose out on vendor loot a lot. In a fast paced group with near constant pulling, we're sitting on our butts medding most of the time, and just don't have the time to get up and loot. Not if the group wants us to have enough mana to keep people from dying. Horses changed this dynamic a lot on Live, and I'd love to see them added to P1999. Wishful thinking, but one can dream, right? So tossing the Cleric some vendor loot from time to time is really appreciated. It's nice when people think about the Cleric when we're in a group situation that doesn't allow us to loot very often.

usedtobejubaloftorv
12-25-2011, 11:42 AM
when i start getting ports for free i'll travel to you and rez you for free.

I'll take that deal... when you /tell my druid for a port make sure you're not anon so I know to prioritize appropriately.

Only problem is even though I've been racking up all these free-rez credits I've only died twice in 30 levels, so I never get a chance to cash them in.

Pomaikai
12-26-2011, 01:46 AM
I'll take that deal... when you /tell my druid for a port make sure you're not anon so I know to prioritize appropriately.

Only problem is even though I've been racking up all these free-rez credits I've only died twice in 30 levels, so I never get a chance to cash them in.

Come group with me and I'll start practicing on my timing again so I can induct you into the Purple Club. Free rezzes for every oops along the way!