Blue crystal staff

[Nirgon]

This was added to Phinigal when epics came out. Mage staff should remain though.

[Silikten]

empirical evidenceeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Daldaen]

http://web.archive.org/web/20010506221012/http://www.everlore.com/bestiary/beastdetails.asp?mode=show&BID=100371

Earliest evidence implies you are wrong.

[Nirgon]

Um. Implies I'm right bros.

This was added at the time epics were put in. It definitely did not exist before Kunark.

[Silikten]

I believe you, but GMs need evidence man. Thats bottom line. :(

[Lazortag]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches-2000-2.html

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September 19, 2000 7:00 am
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***Patch Day***
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*New Epic Quests*

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Earliest comment on the page you linked is from March 2000, so clearly it wasn't added after epics came out.

[Nirgon]

You are high :(

I'll try to find a link somewhere

[Daldaen]

However...
Blue Crystal Staff [2H Blunt]

Submited by: Draenor Beeblebrox On: 11/11/2000 2:04:19 AM Rank: worst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 best
This item has been changed to 1hb, and its part of the wizard FA quest.

Sounds like originally it was supposed to be 2hb.

[Nirgon]

Added as part of the wizard epic quest. Just like the Skeen in Steam Font. Go ahead and put that in ;).

[Uthgaard]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches-2000-2.html



Earliest comment on the page you linked is from March 2000, so clearly it wasn't added after epics came out.

The page is for the mob. The mob existed, the staff didn't.

[Nirgon]

We have a winner

[donttazecast]

This is common sense shit for anyone that played in 1999, how this item is in game is fucking mind boggling.

Are we going to call this one insignicant and leave it in too?

[Nirgon]

Chill brother. Father Uthgaard has appeared and agreed.




so clearly it wasn't added after epics came out.


http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n269/gerbrulez/Lil_Jon_Dave_Chappelle_L_461c9a590d.jpg

[Uthgaard]

This is common sense shit for anyone that played in 1999, how this item is in game is fucking mind boggling.

Are we going to call this one insignicant and leave it in too?

If I told you that you sounded salty, would you be intelligent enough to catch the double entendre?

[Szeth]

Hahahah

[Nirgon]

double entendre?


http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n269/gerbrulez/Lil_Jon_Dave_Chappelle_L_461c9a590d.jpg



Thanks for verifying with your knowledge of vanilla EQ. I think that covers the last item or quirk I can find for now.

[Nirgon]

Make sure this bad boy doesn't sneak in until epics either, they were added at the same time :).

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2456

[Lazortag]

Chill brother. Father Uthgaard has appeared and agreed.







http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n269/gerbrulez/Lil_Jon_Dave_Chappelle_L_461c9a590d.jpg

Oops.

Here's the page for the item:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010519175613/http://www.everlore.com/items/items.asp?mode=show&IID=244619

Looks like it was in fact 2HB before november 2000.

No comments before October 2000 implies that Nirgon was right. I think I have one of these on Giegue, kind of funny that I have an item from the future.

[Nirgon]

You know you have to be careful with that way back machine. If there's a function on the page that makes a call to a DB saying get item values, and those still currently exist with the same item IDs. It can pull them up.

The best evidence I have is killing Phinigal many times on live before Kunark and (trust me as a wizard) I know this wasn't be on his drop table.

I traded a blood fire to a guild monk+cleric who had a friend starting to come pull him every day for (as long as it took) 4 days to get me this. I do know when it was put in, I played in that era. Uthgaard, who is commonly right, or when unsure says... agrees here.

Trident, robe, set of wands, a gem, mage staff. Daz it homes. Notice how the all knowing way back machine Everlore post doesn't list trident of the 7 seas. The defense rests.

If you know, it's obvious. Hopefully it can be yanked next patch at the very least for the Red server, or at best, for both servers.

Q: But Nirgon, you're a wizard! Are you crazy!?

A: No I just came here to play classic EQ. Troll devs more pls.

[kanras]

Fixed, pending update.

[Daldaen]

Will people who have them on blue and red have em poofed?

[Nirgon]

Shouldn't be in game at all. Completely removed.

[Brinkman]

Will people who have them on blue and red have em poofed?

Personally I think they should all go. Nobody should have an advantage on Epic quest drops that other classes do not.

And as far as Red goes, epics might be way far in the future, but the saves alone on it, being a 1h weapon on top of that, it needs to be removed from characters for sure.

10 int
30 mana
10hp
20sv fire
20 sv cold.

Yeah pull it from all characters, just way out of line for classic. However please reward what ever guild of who go this to drop with a different item of their chosing and a character of their chosing. This seems like the best fix to me.

[nilbog]

Yeah pull it from all characters, just way out of line for classic.

We'll remove the stuff that doesn't need to be around. It might transmute into a cloth cap, but it will be removed.

A listing of such items would help a lot, so if we missed something, we can flag it era appropriate and update existing characters.

[Rais]

Are you talking about just for Red99, or both Blue/Red99 for the Blue Crystal Staff removal from all players?

People have been buying the staff or trading high value items to loot it.

Applying stuff from red to blue like recharge items and item changes to stuff that has been in game for over a year and other stuff doesn't make sense,but that's an entire different post.

[mourning]

Nice post.

[mourning]

Nirgon, doing sherlock type things.

[nilbog]

Are you talking about just for Red99, or both Blue/Red99 for the Blue Crystal Staff removal from all players?

People have been buying the staff or trading high value items to loot it.

Applying stuff from red to blue like recharge items and item changes to stuff that has been in game for over a year and other stuff doesn't make sense,but that's an entire different post.

The pvp server, of course.

[Rais]

I love you and I would shit out diamonds for xmas for you if I could.