ATTN: Holocaust

[Softcore PK]

y u no lns? :confused:

y u attempt cc pve death corpses? :confused:

Inquiring minds.

[Lazortag]

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/itsnotrightnotright/holoidiots.jpg

[Diggles]

plugging like it's 1999

[Mardur]

lol @ Holocaust getting farmed all over Norrath.

Sources say they're hiding in Paineel exping because they get killed everywhere else.

[Knuckle]

lol @ Holocaust getting farmed all over Norrath.

Sources say they're hiding in Paineel exping because they get killed everywhere else.

I think Reika's sources are reliable

[billyinorganic]

USE THAT GHOUL BANE WISELY MY FRIEND

[Bkab]

Sources say Reika allowed the leadership of <Nihilum> to bukkake on his face for an invite.

[Bkab]

Lmao Wolfram is a moran, he gets all worked up when holocaust is in the zone, then actually believed we had room for him in our group =/. The first thing I do when I kill SoN is offer LnS. guess that's gonna stop.

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6v6 fight holocaust vs SoN 0 holocaust died, 6 SoN died 8]

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[Bkab]

can't edit rahrharhjhgajhgahg
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[Lazortag]

The first thing I do when I kill SoN is offer LnS. guess that's gonna stop.

Why would that stop? Did I really offend you that much with the picture I posted?

[Bkab]

yall are corpse camping and bind camping my good pal scowl, can't allow this to happen.

[Lazortag]

We never corpse camped him or bind camped him. We said publicly that we would let him LNS. Then he looted his corpse and he and two others came back and attacked us, and they got owned. They then tried to corpse camp us after we died to some mobs, and I killed Scowl naked.

Sorry, you asked.

[Bkab]

liar. how dare you make up such evil lies about scowl? anyone who knows him knows he would never do such a thing.

[Softcore PK]

The first thing I do when I kill SoN is offer LnS. guess that's gonna stop.

Why? We LnS when we die, and we always offer you LnS when you die. Even though you've trained us (more than once), attempted CC, bindrushed and used tactics like opening trade windows in pvp, we insist that our members follow a strict code of conduct. I've even offered some of your members revives after I've PKed them. What possible reason could you have for not allowing us this common courtesy?

It's as though you're fabricating reasons to grief so you feel less guilty for it :/

[Snufz]

Is this a troll thread?

You guys had 4 + Bibbin (yellow wiz), all 29+, pally bard, 2 wiz, cleric.

vs 3, one being a lowbie nec.

We killed your wiz, wiped your group, killed bibbin a bunch, then zoned out. You should have roflstomped us with that set up, it shouldnt have been even close.

[Bkab]

i'm actually really nice and civil with pretty much anyone i pvp against/kill unless they are just shit eating retards. i don't waste my time with ccing or bind camping people unless i really just don't like them.

[Bkab]

Why? We LnS when we die, and we always offer you LnS when you die. Even though you've trained us (more than once), attempted CC, bindrushed and used tactics like opening trade windows in pvp,

i have never done a single one of these things to you or anyone else in your guild. not even a trade bug.

[Softcore PK]

Is this a troll thread?

You guys had 4 + Bibbin (yellow wiz), all 29+, pally bard, 2 wiz, cleric.

vs 3, one being a lowbie nec.

We killed your wiz, wiped your group, killed bibbin a bunch, then zoned out. You should have roflstomped us with that set up, it shouldnt have been even close.

We weren't with Bibbin or the other wizard, and you didn't wipe our group :S

[Snufz]

Doesnt matter if you were with them, they were both on us to.

Whatever floats your boat though the fights were boring tbh def not worthy of a thread.

[Softcore PK]

i have never done a single one of these things to you or anyone else in your guild. not even a trade bug.

It's not always about you!

[Softcore PK]

Doesnt matter if you were with them, they were both on us to.

Whatever floats your boat though the fights were boring tbh def not worthy of a thread.

Thread is about your cleric bindrushing (with your help) and you attempting to CC after we died in pve. It's not really about the boring fight that you lost.

[Bkab]

thought you were singling me out with that post until i re-read it again :O

[Hammertime]

that sig is eyeing me hard

[Zalaerian]

The hell is LNS?

[billyinorganic]

late night sex

[joel.popick]

loot and scoot.

[Lazortag]

Doesnt matter if you were with them, they were both on us to.

Whatever floats your boat though the fights were boring tbh def not worthy of a thread.

Actually they weren't both "on you". When you guys attacked us Bibbin was on a CR and you guys attacked him while a bunch of mobs were on him. He wasn't with us at the time and it was your choice to attack him while you were in the middle of a fight with us. That was your dumb mistake, and that doesn't make it a 3v5 or whatever.

You mention the fact that you were outnumbered as if that says something about us, but you were the ones who engaged us, not the other way around. So what does that say about you that you are so stupid that you have to attack a group that easily handed you your asses? Congratulations on the one kill that you got on our mage, but you didn't "wipe us" at all, and we still got 3 kills on Scowl plus one kill on Puvien. That makes us 4-1. Oh, and don't forget the fact that you failed hard at corpse camping us and I still killed Scowl naked with a green con charmed pet. Pathetic! Now I know whenever holocaust argues with other guilds (IF, Nihilum, etc.) that they are probably making shit up just from reading your responses in this thread.

[Mardur]

Holocaust pvps hard on forums.
Die hard on box.

[Zalaerian]

loot and scoot.

waut

[Snufz]

Actually they weren't both "on you". When you guys attacked us Bibbin was on a CR and you guys attacked him while a bunch of mobs were on him. He wasn't with us at the time and it was your choice to attack him while you were in the middle of a fight with us. That was your dumb mistake, and that doesn't make it a 3v5 or whatever.

You mention the fact that you were outnumbered as if that says something about us, but you were the ones who engaged us, not the other way around. So what does that say about you that you are so stupid that you have to attack a group that easily handed you your asses? Congratulations on the one kill that you got on our mage, but you didn't "wipe us" at all, and we still got 3 kills on Scowl plus one kill on Puvien. That makes us 4-1. Oh, and don't forget the fact that you failed hard at corpse camping us and I still killed Scowl naked with a green con charmed pet. Pathetic! Now I know whenever holocaust argues with other guilds (IF, Nihilum, etc.) that they are probably making shit up just from reading your responses in this thread.

lol?

[Softcore PK]

looool

[Lazortag]

lol?

Typical holocaust response. You're used to winning so when you lose you become confused, angry, belligerent, and delusional. You start making up stories about what really happened even when there are witnesses, screenshots, and DNA evidence to disprove what you say. I'm anti-pk so I have no stake in this; if I get killed I'll happily admit it and make no excuses. But everyone knows Holocaust will lie when they get stomped to try and make themselves look better. What they don't know is that Holocaust members actually believe their own lies because they live in a fantasy world where they're champions at pvp and no one can touch them.

So let's recap:

-you attacked us when you were outnumbered. That was dumb.
-you killed one of us (our mage).
-we killed Scowl 3 times that night, Puvien twice (once before you were involved, once after), made Scowl zone plug, and made you (Snufzz) leave the zone with your tail between your legs.
-you tried to CC us and failed miserably, getting killed by a naked bluebie bard
-you lied on the forums about how you "wiped us"
-you lied on the forums about how many people we had and how many of your guys died

Is Holocaust really struggling so much that they have to make up lies on the forums about their performance on the server?

I feel it's appropriate to repost this:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/itsnotrightnotright/holoidiots.jpg

[Srs Not Ames]

Sources say Reika allowed the leadership of <Nihilum> to bukkake on his face for an invite.

lmao

[Bkab]

Typical holocaust response. You're used to winning so when you lose you become confused, angry, belligerent, and delusional. You start making up stories about what really happened even when there are witnesses, screenshots, and DNA evidence to disprove what you say. I'm anti-pk so I have no stake in this; if I get killed I'll happily admit it and make no excuses. But everyone knows Holocaust will lie when they get stomped to try and make themselves look better. What they don't know is that Holocaust members actually believe their own lies because they live in a fantasy world where they're champions at pvp and no one can touch them.

So let's recap:

-you attacked us when you were outnumbered. That was dumb.
-you killed one of us (our mage).
-we killed Scowl 3 times that night, Puvien twice (once before you were involved, once after), made Scowl zone plug, and made you (Snufzz) leave the zone with your tail between your legs.
-you tried to CC us and failed miserably, getting killed by a naked bluebie bard
-you lied on the forums about how you "wiped us"
-you lied on the forums about how many people we had and how many of your guys died

Is Holocaust really struggling so much that they have to make up lies on the forums about their performance on the server?

I feel it's appropriate to repost this:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/itsnotrightnotright/holoidiots.jpg


too mad; didn't read
TMDR

[Hammertime]

reika go to time out.. this post is gay next

[Nirgon]

Wolfram you better stoop broo

[PhantomRogue]

This thread HAD potential...

But it failed miserably.

[Smedy]

the bluebies do it big son

[SanlavenTZ]

Two parties claiming different stories on a message board over a single occurrence of PvP? I've only seen this a thousand times before.

[lethdar]

I don't really know why you keep posting that image, it shows 1 holocaust member, scowl, and snufz fizzling. But since you seem pretty full of yourself:

http://oi40.tinypic.com/b63m6h.jpg

[Nizzarr]

PVP on a pvp servers,

it happens.

[Melveny]

PVP on a pvp servers,

it happens.

Coming from the bluebie.

[Melveny]

Oh and softcore a thread addressing the individuals would have more appropriate. If you want to address the entire guild for something two people did, I can start being less nice to spear.

Me and wolfram sure had fun in commonlands. Maybe I should start SS for threads like this.

[Nizzarr]

Coming from the bluebie.

get 42 yet? bluebie wants to add you to his friend list for bluebie stuff.

[Melveny]

Believe me buddy, I want to be In your range.

Stop tryin To sound big.

Im a melee, have a 40% reduction, and cannot solo.

Soon friend, soon.

[Truth]

Nizzarr far from blue was in Ruin and won botb

[Truth]

disregard "was in ruin" didnt help his case at all

[Softcore PK]

Oh and softcore a thread addressing the individuals would have more appropriate. If you want to address the entire guild for something two people did, I can start being less nice to spear.

Me and wolfram sure had fun in commonlands. Maybe I should start SS for threads like this.

They wear your tag, they represent your guild; that's how this works. If you're going to be less nice to us because of the dumb actions of your own guild members, it certainly says a lot about you and your guild.

[Melveny]

Says the person addressing an entire guild for a pvp altercation between what 6 people, two of which are ours, that says a lot about yourself.

Let me be more specific. If you want my entire guild involved in your little pvp squabble, that can be arranged. I guarnter my members wil be more than willing and yours won't like it one bit.

Logical solution, address my guild for mass fights involving many members. Keep your little pvp squabbles to yourself or address them specifically.

You see what I did there?

[lethdar]

Troriste down x2, ez lvl 50 pvp not so ez?

[Softcore PK]

You see what I did there?

Yes, you're telling me that you don't care if your members bindrush and attempt to CC. You probably don't care when they train either, so long as they're not caught and suspended.

And nothing but mass guild vs guild pvp matters to you, so Holocaust is of course not responsible for the actions of Holocaust members unless a raid target is involved. If you're going to overreact like this because I brought the pathetic actions of your guildmates to your attention, it was only a matter of time anyway. So feel free to go into seek and destroy mode at a casual guild that's always lnsed and never attempted to grief you, maybe you'll get more kills in between those losses to Nihilum.

[Softcore PK]

I'd like for us all to respect one another a little more than we do, and adopt a set of player-enforced play nice policies. No one has to, of course, and I'm not mad about it. At least I know now what to expect from Holocaust.

[Diggles]

Holocaust is like the dara mactire of EQ.

Seriously, there's literally a guild on my SWTOR server just like them, it's kind of odd. Ruin holds up the law, Dara zergs world bosses and wipes

[pickled_heretic]

If this is the same Ruin from WAR, they're a joke.

[HippoNipple]

I'd like for us all to respect one another a little more than we do, and adopt a set of player-enforced play nice policies. No one has to, of course, and I'm not mad about it. At least I know now what to expect from Holocaust.

Anti pk guilds are the worst griefers, brings back memories of rallos zek. These player enforced play nice rules are worse than communism. Chaos is the only way!

[Melveny]

Yes, you're telling me that you don't care if your members bindrush and attempt to CC. You probably don't care when they train either, so long as they're not caught and suspended.

And nothing but mass guild vs guild pvp matters to you, so Holocaust is of course not responsible for the actions of Holocaust members unless a raid target is involved. If you're going to overreact like this because I brought the pathetic actions of your guildmates to your attention, it was only a matter of time anyway. So feel free to go into seek and destroy mode at a casual guild that's always lnsed and never attempted to grief you, maybe you'll get more kills in between those losses to Nihilum.

Actually I am saying only address the guild for guild pvp. Our members are NOT required to offer anyone LnS, it's up to them to allow or deny it. (FYI this was live and classic on all servers). You say this reflects the "guild", I say it reflects involved parties. (my statement was also live and classic)

If there are extreme circumstances you can message one of our officers who may grant you LnS. However we will deny it also if you have provoked the member. ( shit talking and forum posts come to mind)

I don't recall recieving a tell. I do however see a forum post. Believe me when I say you do not want to follow Lovelys example and forum post, you will make matters hard for yourself and your members. Try a tell next time.

[Nizzarr]

Troriste down x2, ez lvl 50 pvp not so ez?

grats on 5v1.

brought friends after and you all plugcaust'ed it up. apparently you all dirtnapped after logging in too, hope you like your xp deaths!

[Melveny]

I like the xp death you gave me by charming baskalisk pet attacking, aground entire tower, then zoning :)

See you soon.

[Melveny]

FML stupid auto correct

[Daefuin]

Actually I am saying only address the guild for guild pvp. Our members are NOT required to offer anyone LnS, it's up to them to allow or deny it. (FYI this was live and classic on all servers). You say this reflects the "guild", I say it reflects involved parties. (my statement was also live and classic)


Member actions don't reflect upon the guild? What? Where do you think a guild gets it reputation? When you do good/bad/stupid shit anywhere anytime in-game or out it has consequences on all your affiliations.

Why not just man up and admit your guild has a lot of people that will cc/bind camp? Stop trying to artificially create a guild image by declaring member actions do not represent te guild. That is just dumb and doesn't make sense on any level of thinking.

Shit. I'll cc/bind camp/exp you and I know people will expect it from the rest of SBG. My guildmates know that when I kill some dumpster group 1v3 and then camp all of them retaliation will be attempted at everyone I'm assocoated with.

Tldr: man up

[Softcore PK]

Actually I am saying only address the guild for guild pvp. Our members are NOT required to offer anyone LnS, it's up to them to allow or deny it. (FYI this was live and classic on all servers). You say this reflects the "guild", I say it reflects involved parties. (my statement was also live and classic)

If there are extreme circumstances you can message one of our officers who may grant you LnS. However we will deny it also if you have provoked the member. ( shit talking and forum posts come to mind)

I don't recall recieving a tell. I do however see a forum post. Believe me when I say you do not want to follow Lovelys example and forum post, you will make matters hard for yourself and your members. Try a tell next time.

Tbh I mostly gave up on sending Holocaust officers tells when one of them laughed at me for telling them about one of your members training a group of us. I did ask for an officer when Scowl came back into the zone for like the 4th time, but then he left for good so I dropped it.

Did you read this thread? It's not about your members refusing us LnS, when they were trying to CC it was when we died in pve (they weren't even in zone when we died).

Why are you taking issue with me bringing the Holocaust name into this? Yes, the individuals are the ones at fault, but they are tagged Holocaust. They do represent you, and they made some terrible choices here. If you don't like to see Holocaust being made fun of on the forums, maybe you shouldn't recruit people who do things like this.

I'm not talking trash for the sake of it, and I feel I've been very reasonable here.

We'll continue to offer Holocaust lns, as is our policy.

[Jadian]

There's nothing better than watching Holocaust exp loss themselves trying to train you after you kill them twice already.

[Melveny]

You both excell at twisting words, please take a moment and pat yourself on the back.

I never said guild members actions do not reflect the guild, that is your interpretation (see first sentence about word twisting). I did say two guild members in a " squabble " do not reflect the guild. If you are unable to understand the difference, your intelligence is now up for question.

My favorite part of this discussion is seeing statements such as:
" if you dont like being made fun of" are you kidding me right now? Are you serious? I honestly don't even know how to resold to something like this. You got a vagina?

I'm well aware our members are colorful. That does not disregard my prior posts. I'm simply stateing your logic is retarded.

If we follow your logic. All GM's are corrupt and give favoritism. All spear of the nation have vaginas. All Nihilum are MaStErSoFtEhPvP. All Holocaust members are worse then Adolf Hitler. All imaginary Friends are imaginary.

[Baervan]

How do your members not act when they squabble?

[Snufz]

Tbh I mostly gave up on sending Holocaust officers tells when one of them laughed at me for telling them about one of your members training a group of us. I did ask for an officer when Scowl came back into the zone for like the 4th time, but then he left for good so I dropped it.

Did you read this thread? It's not about your members refusing us LnS, when they were trying to CC it was when we died in pve (they weren't even in zone when we died).

Why are you taking issue with me bringing the Holocaust name into this? Yes, the individuals are the ones at fault, but they are tagged Holocaust. They do represent you, and they made some terrible choices here. If you don't like to see Holocaust being made fun of on the forums, maybe you shouldn't recruit people who do things like this.

I'm not talking trash for the sake of it, and I feel I've been very reasonable here.

We'll continue to offer Holocaust lns, as is our policy.

lol. Pvp happened.

[Snufz]

I have made terrible choices in my life.

[Lazortag]

lol. Pvp happened.

Yes. Pvp happened when Scowl idiotically attacked us, and got killed. Pvp then happened when we allowed him to LNS, and he did not scoot, and we killed his friend after you guys tried to attack us again. Pvp happened later when you guys tried to corpse camp us after a death you didn't even cause, and I killed Scowl NAKED with a green con charmed pet (he dropped 14 gold. I bought a few loaves of bread with it. They were yummy). Pvp happened indeed.

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/itsnotrightnotright/holoidiots.jpg

[Snufz]

Cool story bro.

[Softcore PK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB5jyYD2WEw&ob=av2e

[Nirgon]

The legits are all on this side of the table on p99 red. Sry.

[Jessie]

Yes. Pvp happened when Scowl idiotically attacked us, and got killed. Pvp then happened when we allowed him to LNS, and he did not scoot, and we killed his friend after you guys tried to attack us again. Pvp happened later when you guys tried to corpse camp us after a death you didn't even cause, and I killed Scowl NAKED with a green con charmed pet (he dropped 14 gold. I bought a few loaves of bread with it. They were yummy). Pvp happened indeed.]

So if what you say is true then PVP fixed the situation. You don't see Scowl on here crying about you killing him. Why must you get on the forums and start a discussion about PvP when PvP happens. Start a thread and post a SS of a killshot, don't cry about LNS.

On a pvp server you must fight to keep and to get what you want. It's pathetic to start a thread everytime you get into a pvp/bind camp/cc situation.

[Softcore PK]

Start a thread and post a SS of a killshot

we did.

[Jessie]

y u no lns? :confused:

y u attempt cc pve death corpses? :confused:

Inquiring minds.

No you didn't...
This is the first post of this QQ thread
Shut up and PvP

[pojab]

father jessie steps in to tell the kids in the back seat to shut the fuck up

[Lazortag]

So if what you say is true then PVP fixed the situation. You don't see Scowl on here crying about you killing him. Why must you get on the forums and start a discussion about PvP when PvP happens. Start a thread and post a SS of a killshot, don't cry about LNS.

On a pvp server you must fight to keep and to get what you want. It's pathetic to start a thread everytime you get into a pvp/bind camp/cc situation.

The second post of this thread has 3 of the killshots from that night. I guess you couldn't read that far down. Moreover I never cried about LNS, because I never asked for it, because they never killed us. I also never cried about corpse camping (after a PvE death when they weren't even in the same zone) because I dealt with it using pvp, and killed Scowl naked without any trouble at all. So in all of these situations we used pvp to fix the situation. For me, this thread is laughing at the three morons from Holocaust who continually failed at griefing us. You might see it as a qq thread, but why would the tears be coming from our end, when we had 1 death, and Holocaust had 4?

[Nirgon]

I think its this point to say that every pvp kill is a big deal worthy of debate.

[Zalaerian]

Fallen being corpse camped in CT....someoen come halp him

[Nirgon]

Lovely busy farming items 24-7 because recharging being removed. Fallen you're on your own.

I'm on AIM with Bilge. Look out bro.

[letsjoe]

bump scowl pub

[The Revanchist]

I'm going to rip off your head and shit down your throat.