Anon - What's the point?

[eqravenprince]

I considered putting this in Rants and Flames because people who put Anon on annoy me. But I'm also curious if there is truly a legitimate reason to do this. Are you hiding your class? Are you hiding the zone you are in? I find it so incredibly annoying to do a /who all zonename only to show up and and there are several anon high level players killing everything in sight. I don't care that they are there killing non exp giving mobs. I just care that I took the time to travel to the zone because I thought it was empty and find out that it's being camped by a few high levels.

[Messianic]

Welcome to classic eq - you don't always know whether a zone is camped or not. That's part of the game.

Various classes get tells for stuff all the time, and often its easier to pre-empt them and go anon so you dont get tells.

Some people do it just because. And they have every right to.

[Diggles]

Anonymous players are usually hiding their class or their guild (when people are mobilizing to an encounter.

[eqravenprince]

I think having anon turned off is a courtesy to other players. If they don't give me the courtesy of knowing they were in the zone, then maybe I shouldn't give them the courtesy of me caring what they are camping.

[Diggles]

wait, so let me get this straight.

If someone goes anon, be it an enchanter to prevent "C PLEASE" or a druid to prevent "SOW + PORT ME TO TOXX PLS", you believe you have the right to take their camp?

[eqravenprince]

wait, so let me get this straight.

If someone goes anon, be it an enchanter to prevent "C PLEASE" or a druid to prevent "SOW + PORT ME TO TOXX PLS", you believe you have the right to take their camp?

Technically leaving a camp to a person/group is a courtesy not a right. Why is that an unofficial rule, but leaving anon off is not. I find it more annoying.

[Hailto]

Lol, goodluck with your server rep.

[Szeth]

Camps are an official rule. I challenge you to steal someones camp who was anon and holding it.

See how that works out for you.

[Faisca]

What about the people that go Anon & LFG at the same time? :D

[messiah_b]

Technically leaving a camp to a person/group is a courtesy not a right. Why is that an unofficial rule, but leaving anon off is not. I find it more annoying.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2653

[eqravenprince]

Apparently I am in the minority or maybe the only person annoyed by anon people. Which is baffling, but oh well. It's usually not a big deal anyhow. I received some possible good reasons for going anon, and I'll just leave it at that. And no I don't steal people's camp, but then again I have never camped anything in my entire life. Groups I am in might say whatever camp we are in, but honestly I could care less. I don't feel like I've ever owned said camp or mob.

[Szeth]

Camp something like the Ishva for 8 hours straight, and then right before it spawns have someone come in and sit on the spawn point.

Would you feel slighted?

[Autotune]

Camp something like the Ishva for 8 hours straight, and then right before it spawns have someone come in and sit on the spawn point.

Would you feel slighted?

i'd feel like it was time to adjust the tracks a little more toward that spawn point, if ya get what i'm talkin bout.

[eqravenprince]

Camp something like the Ishva for 8 hours straight, and then right before it spawns have someone come in and sit on the spawn point.

Would you feel slighted?

A) I would never camp something for 8 hours straight.
B) If I ever did feel the need to waste 8 hours sitting at one camp, and then someone took my spawn, I would be pissed and tell myself this is why I don't waste my time camping a mob.

[Nagash]

I'm [...] curious if there is truly a legitimate reason to do this.

Play a wizard, druid, enchanter or cleric from mid level up or a high level paladin and you will find enlightment.

The only bit I don't understand about /ano and /role are people putting the LFG tag one while being /ano or /role: how do you expect to have invites if people don't know your class and, most importantly, your level?

B) If I ever did feel the need to waste 8 hours sitting at one camp, and then someone took my spawn, I would be pissed and tell myself this is why I don't waste my time camping a mob.

Some people would push this further, as per the server rules highlighted in a previous post. The camp rules are not here to annoy people but to ensure that a minimum level of courtesy and respect is present on the server to avoid anarchy. Whatever you do you will be frustrated but the choice is yours to either (a) bite the bullet, accept being done in the backside or (b) seek assistance from a GM so you get what was rightfully yours. Option (a) is quicker but, in a way, promotes a bad attitude by not fighting it when witnesed, option (b) will reduce your frustration and help improve the overall attitude on the server by getting the offenders punished.


Nagash/Petitpas/Jinbao

[Asher]

Play a wizard, druid, enchanter or cleric from mid level up or a high level paladin and you will find enlightment.

The only bit I don't understand about /ano and /role are people putting the LFG tag one while being /ano or /role: how do you expect to have invites if people don't know your class and, most importantly, your level?

Nagash/Petitpas/Jinbao

My guess would be that they are raiding and their raid knows their class and level or they only want to be grouped with people that know them.

Asher

[Tarathiel]

"Hey do you got any rogue weps I can have" "hey you will drag my group out of the crypt even tho you are grouped and on the opposite side of the zone" these are the 2 most common tells I get as a rogue when I'm not anon..... Going anon just saves me the time of having to type "hell no" every 5 minutes

[eqravenprince]

"Hey do you got any rogue weps I can have" "hey you will drag my group out of the crypt even tho you are grouped and on the opposite side of the zone" these are the 2 most common tells I get as a rogue when I'm not anon..... Going anon just saves me the time of having to type "hell no" every 5 minutes

Back in 2000-2001, I played a Rogue up to level 52 and I was never asked if I had any Rogue weapons to give away. And maybe once was asked to drag a corpse. But I suppose if I were sent tells like this every 5 minutes like you suggest, then I might have to go anon as well.

[Rasah]

But I suppose if I were sent tells like this every 5 minutes like you suggest, then I might have to go anon as well.
And there you have it.

[Tarathiel]

Haha every 5 min may have been a bit of an exaggeration, but it happens often enough that I pretty much always go /role or /anon. I'm all for helping people out especially noobs, but I can't stand people just looking for random hand outs.

[Torin_Stormchaser]

As a cleric, if I am not /anon or /role at 2am, I get tells filling my screen "Wanna group in [random zone nowhere near me]?" "We just lost our healer can you come fill in at [another random zone I have no interest in]?" "Could you find a port and help me [do a random event on another continent]?" "I need a revive in [either the zone I am in or one within 15 minutes of me], I don't care about xp"
It's annoying as hell.
Also... I prefer to solo my cleric... Only grouping when absolutely necessary...

[Vondra]

I turn /anon on or off depending on whether I'm in the mood to get requests for spells/group invites or not. I frequently have it on and also frequently have it off.

[Lindalind]

What about the people that go Anon & LFG at the same time? :D

I wonder about that too.

[Vondra]

I've found some limited use of /anon and /lfg at once. This basically the equivalent of "I want to be left alone right now unless you know me".

You still show up on friendlists with the LFG on. People that know you know what your class is.

[Tarathiel]

I wonder about that too.

They are probably in a raid zone, either they just got there and are letting the raid know they need a group or the raid is still being organized and groups are being made

[Vardamur]

Apparently I am in the minority or maybe the only person annoyed by anon people. Which is baffling, but oh well. It's usually not a big deal anyhow. I received some possible good reasons for going anon, and I'll just leave it at that. And no I don't steal people's camp, but then again I have never camped anything in my entire life. Groups I am in might say whatever camp we are in, but honestly I could care less. I don't feel like I've ever owned said camp or mob.

But aren't you trying to make a big deal about it?

It's a players right to go anon or roleplay.

[Daldaen]

Still think it should be disabled.

If your guild really is better you can mobilize faster or do the dragon/god with less/earlier.

The point of a community is so people can help each other out. Which is the main purpose boxing is banned here. Yet so many people are /anon and /roleplay and clerics hide their class so they don't have to rez/buff, druids so they don't have to port/buff, enchanters so they don't have to buff, mages so they don't have to DS/Summon Mod rods and muzzles, necros so they don't have to corpse summon/rez/DMF, rogues so they don't have to corpse drag, wizards so they don't have to port.

etc. etc. I still think that if you are all gung-ho about boxing ruining a server because of the lack of a sense of community and needing other players, then you shouldn't be /anon or /roleplay, because basically when you are using that its just saying you don't want to be disturbed by anyone else in need of help.

[Fultun]

As a druid I go anon when I'm in a group and we have moved to whatever fight we plan on doing that evening, or else I get tells about porting someone here or there, or if I'm doing a lot of AFK solo stuff where I could be AFK for 5-10 mins at a time and don't want people sending tells about buffs/ports/etc and thinking I'm ignoring them because I don't respond while AFK. (amazing how even using AFK people still spam request in tells :) )

Other than those times I usually am not anon and more than happy to help with buffs, sow or ports.

[eqravenprince]

But aren't you trying to make a big deal about it?

It's a players right to go anon or roleplay.

Just a discussion, that is all. I've never gone anon in all the time I have played EQ, but I am very helpful community person and have nothing to hide. I realize people have the right and their reasons for doing it. I simply disagree. I might just have to play one of these classes that are forced to go Anon because of the flood of tells to find out first hand. My guess is that it is a bit exaggerated.

[Autotune]

I might just have to play one of these classes that are forced to go Anon because of the flood of tells to find out first hand. My guess is that it is a bit exaggerated.

play a druid, you'll be wrong

[nalkin]

Camp something like the Ishva for 8 hours straight, and then right before it spawns have someone come in and sit on the spawn point.

Would you feel slighted?

Roll down to Ishva a minute before it spawns and jack the kill from someone who wasted 8 hours sitting there. How awesome would you feel?

[Szeth]

I felt awesome, but Nestor was mad as hell.

[Daldaen]

play a druid, you'll be wrong

He isn't wrong. I sit in ECommons quite often as a druid high enough to have the best buffs for our class. I still only get mabye 5-6 different people sending me tells asking for buffs, ports, or PLs. Occasionally if I buffed one person they send multiple tells and come back to refresh DS and such.

It isn't that bad really.

[Autotune]

He isn't wrong. I sit in ECommons quite often as a druid high enough to have the best buffs for our class. I still only get mabye 5-6 different people sending me tells asking for buffs, ports, or PLs. Occasionally if I buffed one person they send multiple tells and come back to refresh DS and such.

It isn't that bad really.

I played a druid from around jan-mar 2010 and i always got flooded with port and buff tells when i wasn't /role or /anon.

I haven't played once since, but i imagined it would be similar. I suppose the lower end population has pretty much died out tho compared to then

[Kassel]

I felt awesome, but Nestor was mad as hell.

I dont recall ever getting jacked, i recall 12 kills and no robe tho!

On my druid i am always /role as I would get flooded with requests for ports, i dislike saying no when i am busy so i would rather avoid the question.

[Szeth]

I was wondering how long until you ruined my false bravado.

I wouldn't play you like that brohemoth.

[Flunklesnarkin]

purposes of anon that i can think of

don't want people to know where you are? (maybe power raiding multiple zones.. don't want to give up tod?)

or don't want to get spammed for rez/port/group?

believe it or not some people will just invite anybody in their level range

[Atmas]

On my wiz I have had random people send me tells when I was in PoSky asking if I could come to OT and port them to Gfay.

People go anon to avoid getting asked for ports/rezes/buffs/plat and to avoid tipping off guilds they are in competition with what mobs are up.

[Brad_mo123]

I considered putting this in Rants and Flames because people who put Anon on annoy me. But I'm also curious if there is truly a legitimate reason to do this. Are you hiding your class? Are you hiding the zone you are in? I find it so incredibly annoying to do a /who all zonename only to show up and and there are several anon high level players killing everything in sight. I don't care that they are there killing non exp giving mobs. I just care that I took the time to travel to the zone because I thought it was empty and find out that it's being camped by a few high levels.

What is annoying is people being so nosey that this actually bothers them. The main reasons for me is that with 10 minutes of not being anon / roleplay I get a million tells asking me this or that when it can 9 out of 10 times be googled. I figured it out on my own why cant others, I really dont mind helping people but there are way too many beggers on this server and being bombarded with so many tells in a short period is ridiculous. Another reason is that I am in a raiding guild so being roleplay is required to hide what we are doing incase a raid mob pops. No matter the reason really everyone on this server holds a right to play how they want under the rules of the server and if the reason they are anon just to be an ass it doesnt matter, they have a right to it, get over it.

[feste]

"Hey do you got any rogue weps I can have" "hey you will drag my group out of the crypt even tho you are grouped and on the opposite side of the zone" these are the 2 most common tells I get as a rogue when I'm not anon..... Going anon just saves me the time of having to type "hell no" every 5 minutes

who the hell asks for weapons and gear. I've always thought of begging as weird. I mean if anyone wanted to give their stuff away to clear bank space or whatever they could figure out someone to give it to in a few minutes. although I digress.

[Motec]

As a cleric, if I am not /anon or /role at 2am, I get tells filling my screen "Wanna group in [random zone nowhere near me]?" "We just lost our healer can you come fill in at [another random zone I have no interest in]?" "Could you find a port and help me [do a random event on another continent]?" "I need a revive in [either the zone I am in or one within 15 minutes of me], I don't care about xp"
It's annoying as hell.
Also... I prefer to solo my cleric... Only grouping when absolutely necessary...

As a cleric levelling up, with LFG on almost exclusively and never anon, I got maybe 1 to 2 tells a day.

As a 60 cleric with LFG on and never anon or roleplay excepting raids, I get 1 to 2 tells a day max. Infact I've had more group invites on my low 20's wizard than motec ever did for the first 50 levels.

[YendorLootmonkey]

What about the people that go Anon & LFG at the same time? :D

Those are rangers wearing plate-looking armor trying to get groups.

[Lindalind]

They are probably in a raid zone, either they just got there and are letting the raid know they need a group or the raid is still being organized and groups are being made


When you put it that way it makes sense.

Not that it really matters,just deciding you want to be anon is a plenty good reason to be anon in my humble opinion.

[mwatt]

A) I would never camp something for 8 hours straight.
B) If I ever did feel the need to waste 8 hours sitting at one camp, and then someone took my spawn, I would be pissed and tell myself this is why I don't waste my time camping a mob.

I find your annoyance at the effects of /anon understandable - though on the other hand I think there are valid reasons to be anon. The thing that annoys me about the whole anon thing is that doing a /who all <zone name> does not show anonymous players. I understand that this is the way it was in classic however, and that is the theme of the server, so just got to accept.

What I don't find understandable is your attitude towards camping. If you want certain things you are going to have to camp them. If you don't want them enough to camp them, then fiine - for YOU. But other players might, and you imply with your statements that this is somehow perplexing or unusual. It is you who are unusual in this regard - particularly when you say that you would blame yourself for the inappropriate actions of another player. That's just nuts.

[ivosik]

if you are not anon your playing eq wrong. /quit server install WoW

[DoucLangur]

I think having anon turned off is a courtesy to other players. If they don't give me the courtesy of knowing they were in the zone, then maybe I shouldn't give them the courtesy of me caring what they are camping.

Good point ^^

Anon is for *censored*. Roleplay is acceptable. Anon is just bullshit. And even roleplay is usually not needed. The raiding guilds will know where the competition is regardless. And we others really don't give a flying f*ck what wannabe-elitists are raiding ^^

Regards

Slozem

[bizzum]

The raiding guilds will know where the competition is regardless. And we others really don't give a flying f*ck what wannabe-elitists are raiding ^^



Well having everybody anon and having one person anon letting the other team know where you are can very well be the few minutes head start you need to make it an easy win. Its very useful for that purpose, especially if multiple mobs are ready to pop! Im sad you don't care what I'm doing =( I crave attention! :p

[Estu]

I play a level 41 druid who's never been anon. I get at most one tell every couple of hours about porting, and that usually from people in the same zone. Far from overwhelming. I think a lot of players here are just so scared of confrontation - what's so bad about typing "/r sorry, can't", or if you're obviously raiding in plane of sky or something, just not replying?

[Messianic]

Focus is key in EQ since it takes so *!#$!@#$@! long to accomplish anything compared to other mmos. If I can exclude a few distracting tells by going anon, so be it.

[Lindalind]

I play a level 41 druid who's never been anon. I get at most one tell every couple of hours about porting, and that usually from people in the same zone. Far from overwhelming. I think a lot of players here are just so scared of confrontation - what's so bad about typing "/r sorry, can't", or if you're obviously raiding in plane of sky or something, just not replying?


I often get 30-40 tells in an evening for ports and 20 or more tells in the day time.
And no i don't advertise OOC.
During the day on weekends it's much more.

I don't go anon at all,but if someone else wants to that is their business.
There sure are a lot of people here who claim to love classic EQ, except for all the details of classic EQ.

[Wotsirb401]

The reasons people go role/anon have been covered. As for me I go role or anon when a GOD or dragon has spawned or I am in a raiding zone. Sometimes when I am actually LFG and on /role or /anon it is b/c I actually forgot to turn it off until I do a /who. Just a user error.

A tactic I would suggest is to do /who all (insert zone name here). Then pick someone from the list and send them a tell asking to do a quick CC . This saves travel time and you can even make friends this way.


Also speaking from one of higher guilds on the server, we mostly use vent and guildchat which cuts out the need to show what class you are

[Lagaidh]

http://www.ohlookitsthisthreadagain.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/oh-look-its-this-thread-again-276x300.gif

Seriously, this topic is almost 13 years old. It's ready for a training bra.

[eqravenprince]

Seriously, this topic is almost 13 years old. It's ready for a training bra.

Seriously! Where have I been?!? I don't remember a topic about this 13 years ago, hell I don't remember what I ate for lunch yesterday. This training bra you mention does it raise my charisma and have cold resistence and a click mez spell.

[Mobb Deep]

waiting for camps is a waste of time...why dont you join red and claim your camp whenever you want?

[usedtobejubaloftorv]

If I am busy doing something on my druid I make myself anon because otherwise I'll get too many "port me" tells. Being a non-anon druid in an outdoor zone can be especially bad, I'll get a tell every 15 minutes or even more. At a certain point it's just easier to hit anon rather than have to say 'no' to a succession of people, any of whom might take it as a personal affront.

[Vondra]

Those are rangers wearing plate-looking armor trying to get groups.

It doesn't work either, we can smell them!

[Lagaidh]

Seriously! Where have I been?!? I don't remember a topic about this 13 years ago, hell I don't remember what I ate for lunch yesterday. This training bra you mention does it raise my charisma and have cold resistence and a click mez spell.

Ah okay. Troll thread and I bit.

Check.

Either that or you're just looking for a reason to argue with folks. Whatever blows your hair back.

[eqravenprince]

Ah okay. Troll thread and I bit.

Check.

Either that or you're just looking for a reason to argue with folks. Whatever blows your hair back.

Do you have anything to say about going anon or camping that was brought in this thread? I like to discuss and debate, it's fun, blows my hair back as you would say =)

[Lagaidh]

Do you have anything to say about going anon or camping that was brought in this thread? I like to discuss and debate, it's fun, blows my hair back as you would say =)

Sure! Here goes:

It doesn't bother me one little bit, and is each player's individual decision and right as to whether or not they go /role or /anon.

If I'm playing my wife's druid, I go anon instantly. If I'm playing her toon, it's to catch her XP up to mine and not field a single port request.

On my paladin, I rarely go /role or /anon. The group invites in /tell are really nice. On my live server, paladins rarely got unsolicited tells for groups. I love getting those tells!

From my perspective alone, I'm quite surprised other players' use of these tags bothers you. The only thing I understand is being frustrated after getting to a zone that looked empty due to /anon and it being full of farmers. I don't agree with getting upset enough over it to start a thread, but I sure understand it.

Consider thine hair back blown!

[Vondra]

Regarding /anon or /role causing you to be mistaken about whether a zone is crowded/camped etc:

If you're intending on making a trip to a zone that'll take some effort, it's good habit to send a tell to someone that is visible in the zone asking what's camped...particularly if you have a specific spot you'd like to camp.

Not only will you get a better idea of what's going on in the zone, it isn't uncommon to get a response like "We're at sol b royals but we have x person about to leave, want to replace them?". I've been on both sides of this multiple times.

[eqravenprince]

If you're intending on making a trip to a zone that'll take some effort, it's good habit to send a tell to someone that is visible in the zone asking what's camped...particularly if you have a specific spot you'd like to camp.


That's a good idea. Thanks!

[Lagaidh]

Regarding /anon or /role causing you to be mistaken about whether a zone is crowded/camped etc:

If you're intending on making a trip to a zone that'll take some effort, it's good habit to send a tell to someone that is visible in the zone asking what's camped...particularly if you have a specific spot you'd like to camp.

Not only will you get a better idea of what's going on in the zone, it isn't uncommon to get a response like "We're at sol b royals but we have x person about to leave, want to replace them?". I've been on both sides of this multiple times.

Yeps. Good advice.

I'll clarify that sometimes, there are only anon folks in a zone, especially the ones where item farming is the attraction. In that instance, you won't see anyone in a /who to ask.

Still, when you arrive and find people, you can either leave or find an unclaimed spot. /shrug

[Dravingar]

You people are missing the huge appeal of the /role tag. Your name is now purple which is way cooler than being blue.

Also as someone who played a druid on live, I learned to always be role when not LFG.

[HawkMasterson1999]

as an enchanter if i dont go /anon I get a tell every 10 - 20 mins for a group.

[Pomaikai]

Maybe it's because I've played a Cleric for so long, but if I'm looking for a specific class for something, like an exp rez, port, etc I always look at the zone they are in before sending that /tell. If you are in a grouping/raiding/farming zone, and it's not the one I'm in, then I just never send that /tell. You're busy. I get that. Why in the hell would I ever send a /tell to someone in PoS asking for something? If I do see a /LFG, then I "might" send you a /tell depending upon the zone, but most likely only if I know you. There is some basic common courtesy at work here though. Both on the part of those looking for help, and those players who go /anon. Just try to remember that we all started at the same place in this game, and progressed similarly. We all needed help at one point or another, so pay it forward. While it may be a bit of a PITA for you now, just remember that point in your gameplay where that bit of help was incredibly important.

[Wizerud]

Or if it's a zone you frequent often just plant an alt there and check it yourself.

[Zigfreed]

As a chanter I never go anon or role and every so often someone asks me for something I can't easily do at the moment and I tell them "No, sorry I can't atm, good hunting.", if they go full moran on me (never happens in actuality) then I type /ignore theirname.

I prefer to play openly. I meet more people, have more opportunities to do stuff (even if said opp is plainly stupid!) and enjoy the game all the more imho.

TL;DR.. Dudes how hard is it to type "No, sorry"?

[Cyclone]

I Play a cleric as a main, while I never /anon I do /role when I do not want to be bothered with tells. You may not know this but when you are busy helping a friend, grouping, or raiding and you suddenly get bombarded with 10+ tells from just as many people for reses then you would understand it gets real hard to concentrate on what you are doing.

Tell hell sucks, however I do know there are people that need help and 50% of the time I am purposely sitting in EC with my /role tag off waiting for people to send me tells. I do enjoy running around and resing people, helping them out, and a lot of times when I know they have very little to donate I decline the trade and tell them its on the house, I make no fuss over plat most of the time.

However complaining about how people hide what class they are is rather selfish, Especially when placing either a /anon or /role is the only way to get away from the constant bombardment of tell hell.