View Full Version : definitely favoritism and hypocrisy
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 04:23 PM
there is definitely some .. favoritism and hypocrisy going on here
I find it kinda funny, how this post comes from lovely the exploiterofpve&pvp -
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56460
What I find interesting about this post, is the fact that lovely and his group of friends used this to lvl up. Now that they no longer need exp they want it out of the game. ofcourse anything that helped them get the lvl's done faster than anyone else they want to be the only people to do it easy style. Then they want to get the gear that they exploited a bug in the code/game to get and now that will be going out also, so now they can sit at 50 and attack lvl 42's, they have gear 2 spell ranks on you .. classic - what makes me laugh the most is the fact that inside their little heads they think they are good at pvp? im better than you becuase i have spells and gear you dont have. When what it really comes down to is you suck at the game you used exploits to lvl up to 50 and get gear, now after you used them all you want them out of the game, your trash along with your friends you will go down in history as the people that could not hash out the long hours of leveling that classic everquest really was - but its only ok for you to do it, everything lvl 50 should be deleted, if you looked back at the time line of lvling 1-50 in classic it took months people likes were wasted and lost due to this game at classic, thats why they made it a little easier for people. never the less your only good becuase you have the upper hand, its like fighting a boxing or mma fight with one arm behind your back .. this is lovely in real life - no way i wont fight you unless you tie your hand behind your back then i will fight you and act like im the best out there !! wheeee! .. your sad man.. its like the guy that pked the guy with mobs on him, IM BETTER THAN YOU !!!! .. dude get it in your head you can't lvl to 50 on this server without using bug's or exploits. You can't do it. You didnt do it. Your not 50 without using exploits or bugs. You suck at everquest. Your good becuase you push ice comet over and over why noone else has spells near your lvl range.. wow you have skills, i told my 5 year old what button to push and he killed someone in the game.. hes great at it, he is about as smart as you lovely.
So makes alot of sense why you would want it out of the game now.
I just can't stand it when they don't get shit right from the beginning how many years have they had to get this crap right before launching a server and then they just let it go on and on for weeks knowing full well that it's broken it's always the same story with emulated servers
if they fix this exp bug that lovely used and now that lovely is done using it wants to post it as a bug.. should be banned for that alone - abusing something in the game then when your done with it let them fix it, at this point i understand they are at a jam on this server if they de lvl or reset lovely and his crew of friends that did this, they would quit becuase we all know they can't level without it. takes to much of your life, you would have to sit infront of the computer for a month stright to get 50 specially in a group with the -20% xp loss let alone the fact that they would have to compete for spawn.. yeah they woudl not do it becuase they can't. Then if you take ice comet to vox quest and take out the proc rate of the weapons for mages then the lower end will not want to play becuase they will get farm'ed at 42 by lvl 50's that used this. dont see it fair - what do they do leave it all how it is and call it a day? yeah i think they should. maybe have a poll to wipe the server clean and start it over i think alot of people would vote for that, infact everyone except for lovely and lovely will make 5-10 fake names no the forums and post on his behalf, he wants this out of the game becuase mages will own his face in pvp with it plain and simple he will suck and cry and quit -
I have proof that he box's a mage and wiz. Also if you look at his pics he post he is grouped with 1 person meaning he exploited that bug to level up.
Szeth
12-14-2011, 04:27 PM
I have proof that he box's a mage and wiz. Also if you look at his pics he post he is grouped with 1 person meaning he exploited that bug to level up.
SS or didn't happen
Daefuin
12-14-2011, 04:36 PM
So much whine in one post it's incredible.
1. It isn't favortism - it's a bug that is being fixed.
2. Post proof with accusations.
3. Everything is exploited when anyone outlevels you or outfarms you.
ChubbyBubbles
12-14-2011, 04:37 PM
If you have proof he was boxing, why haven't you already blasted said evidence all over the forums, or at least submitted it to the powers that be ?
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 04:49 PM
i sent the proof to the people- nothing happend.
also like i said in my post lovely and his group of friends will post on this and call it "out leveling and out farming you" the only reason you out leveled anyone is becuase of a bug in the game - the only reason your farming people and things is becuase of that bug are you that stupid that people really believe what you say in the quote? it actually makes you look stupid even saying it.
also you say "its being fixd" ok so its cool for you to use it - fix it but take away what you got with it or let everyone else do it also, its only fair - its not fair to let a group of people get away and keep everything and take it from everyone else - you guys will be playing by yourself i assure you i will quit along with lots of other people so you can have fun with your same played time as most the lvl 20's that really worked for it. unlike yourself and keep patting yourself on the back .. man tell your mom to fix your helmet and set up your droll cup becuase you guys make yourself look stupid by saying it - if you take it out take them out with it. or leave it for everyone else to us. its simple you cant let a group of people do it and not everyone else - if this was a real server live your ass's would be banned they dont give 2 fucks about you - but for some reason.. has to be the favoritism that nothing is happening to you at all for this and its ok that you did it we will just take it out and let you guys get the edge let all these other people send hours on hours to slowly lvl up why you did it in half the time and got the gear to sit and wait for others to get lvl 42 and farm them becuase you exploited does that make you better? no not at all.
so yes i can understand why you want it out of the game now because you already used it got what you wanted from it and wnat noone else to get it easy like you so you can think in your head your good at something.
grow up. admit.
Szeth
12-14-2011, 04:52 PM
Wall of text was harder to break through than the Berlin Wall amirite?
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 04:58 PM
thats all you have to say becuase i am 100% right.
Szeth
12-14-2011, 05:04 PM
You're 100% whining, you could have poopsocked for 15 hours a day too, and been level 50 by now. Instead you didn't and want to be on a level playing field despite 1/3 or less of the play time.
Sit back and let the big dogs play through.
Daefuin
12-14-2011, 05:11 PM
I'm a Shaman you dumb fuck. I didn't have a pet for 34 levels and I never used a single mage sword until last night. You are whining because you simply cannot handle the fact that you got outleveled legitimately. You say these 50s have the same playtimr as the 20s who didn't exploit but that is a crock of horseshit and you know it.
You say you have all this proof about someone 2boxing and how it's favortism - then post it for the public to see. Until then you're just another angry nerd that got outleveled and talking shit with no proof.
I don't know lovely and Im not in his group of friends. Im just tired of you mouthbreathers shitting up the forum with bitching abouy "exploits" and other ambiguous shit with 0 proof.
Nizzarr
12-14-2011, 05:14 PM
That has to be a troll
Albane
12-14-2011, 05:15 PM
I understand your frustration, but bugs need to be fixed and not just left in the game because other people didn't report them sooner. I am willing to bet than many mages who played Beta knew about this and did not report it sooner. It is interesting that looking at Lovely's history for reporting bugs, all of them strengthen wizards or weaken other classes.
Not once was Harvest being in an xpac early or Ice Comet not requiring you to kill Vox reported.
Glad they removed this bug, but it is ironic that Lovely is the one who reported it.
Mardur
12-14-2011, 05:47 PM
Lovely confirmed pet class exploiting pet bugs.
PS every single pet class on this server knows about and uses this.
Tassador
12-14-2011, 05:49 PM
/play 14days im level 19 is that good?
Muaar
12-14-2011, 05:56 PM
sad but true
GMs reward bug discovery by not punishing those that exploit them (too bad these people figured out all of these bugs in beta and then intentionally didn't report them until everyone they know had farmed them sufficiently, but then again no one else posted them until now either). Can't blame lovely for posting bugs in the bug forum.
just tell yourself they're bad at the game because they had to poopsock up before any bugs were fixed while you were having sex like a sexhaver
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 06:07 PM
i have more play time than all of you put together, i have played hours ontop of hours since the day this server opened. figures all you have in response to this is "whine" and this and that makes me laugh
these are true facts that you wont admit - just becuase your a shmy dont mean you didnt group with a "pet" class you can duo with a pet class in a group and get full xp for doing 1 dmg. i dont care what class you are - this was used and i would give up my char that is close to 50 to have a equal playing field yes i would. due to the fact that it will bring more in the future to this server. not a group of people that already did it all now they want to talk about it after they used it your missing the whole point here - and they did not play 15 hours a day - i have been on everyday since the server started man - as for they all leveled in duo' most the time with a pet class - for most exp. its plain and simple what they did - thats why the server is getting smaller and smaller everyday - soon it will be just ytou gimps that cheated the game to the top and want to make it harder for everyone else - and yes i bet half the people have less play time for sure - unless they left there char afk online to build up play time.
its plain and simple - if you can't see it your just ignorant and dont care for otheres becuase it dont effect you or your friends you guys arleady did it and used it your done with it, now others have found it out and you dont want them to use it, you dont want to get rocked in pvp so your going to cry til they fix it -
i could care less about this what 150-300 player server that is 2 box'd by everyone so it really is only half that amount of people?
mark my words, they fix this they wont have a server you guys will be playing alone. if they want a real server they should redo it - they will get more players back, half the population just went back to blue99. so if you want to play by yourselfs then so be it.
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 06:14 PM
You are 100% right about lovely posting stuff like that to make his class better he can't reroll at this time. unless he uses a friend to pl him up.
but yeah its not fair that they used it etc, and im not talking for me, i am talking for the server and everyone else that just dont really care to take the time and post here, unlike lovely and his group of clown's that post in their favor. then cry when it dont go there way.
I know alot of people agree with me. And ofcourse lovely would post it now, after he used it so noone else does, its a simple fact. but if you guys want to over look it etc then so be it. Dont patch it now, dont fix it a month later, they knew it was in from the start its not the first day they knew it was like that. they have let this probelm go on and on now they want to say they are going to patch it.
its just sad - what they should do is look at the time line of how long it really should take playing 24/7 a day (i have been playing non stop am im not 50) but really it should take over a month to get to 50 in classic eq specialy with spawns and building money, they used money exploits to get spells etc - its just a joke honestly and to fix it now is even more of a joke, they should just give lovely and his group a free 50 and gear it out and make everyone do it the hard way - its not fair for the people that have put in the work on this server since day one, me being one of them. even it out and punish them or dont do anything about it - we should make a poll to whipe them or the server - i bet they would have a better server population if they did that, they will lose server population if they just fix the probelms who the hell is dumb enough to play after people have used all these bugs and got what they wanted now want them out so no one else can use them - nah not cool.
Muaar
12-14-2011, 06:15 PM
guards not assisting scared off masses of people. that was the worst thing that could have happened at launch.
Cwall
12-14-2011, 06:15 PM
tl;dr
Daefuin
12-14-2011, 06:18 PM
"grouping with a pet class is an exploit"
Stopped reading.
Still waiting on proof since now the whole server 2 boxes
Daefuin
12-14-2011, 06:18 PM
guards not assisting scared off masses of people. that was the worst thing that could have happened at launch.
Yep. Biggest thing right here
Lovely
12-14-2011, 06:18 PM
LOL
This is some good shit and THANK YOU TURMOIL for making my gaming experience enhanced here on RED99. You sir are a winner!
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 06:20 PM
yeah the guards not assisting ran off alot of people -
but what should happen is they should start everyone over, and i never said grouping with a pet class is a exploit, but you guys knew in beta that you could do it, so you guys duo' with a pet class for fastest xp but dont try to get it taken out of the game after you used it is all im saying.
Mardur
12-14-2011, 06:21 PM
ITT: Turmoil whining because he's a pet class and Lovely got his exploit nerfed.
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 06:23 PM
as for lovely your just a gimp dude, give it up dont even respond you make yourself look more stupid - go suck off the devs some more to keep your char tell them more of your exploits you found in beta and used to get the upper hand then make sure noone else gets to use it. your a joke.
what sucks is you go down in the red99 history as a gimp, a cheater someone that had to use bugs to lvl, you didnt even lvl you should have just got given a char and gear , but really honestly since all this is now up and in the open,
lets fix the server and get the player base back by resetting it and fixing it - if they dont want to do that, then they should roll back lovley and everyone that is 50 and used these bugs - i know on a live server they would be toast rolled back, they dont give a shit about you, but for some weird reason.. nope nothing is going to happen to these players thats even a bigger joke.
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 06:24 PM
i am a wizard. you idiot.
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 06:26 PM
im just speaking for the people that wont say anything, becuase they would rather just quit - honestly -
its not that its getting nerf'ed that bugs it, what bugs me is the fact that they abused it for over a month now they want to say something about it when they are done - they have all there gear and lvl 50 they are done ready to pvp all the lvl 42 and make sure noone has a chance to give them any fight becuase they want all the stuff out the game that they used to get the upper hand. honestly if your to stupid to see that, then so be it.
Muaar
12-14-2011, 06:31 PM
None of this shit is gonna change man. No one that can change anything cares (written off as whining) and if anything you're just annoying the GM's. There's so much 'wrong' with the server (just from emulating classic pvp even) you can either just decide to wait at their mercy or keep grinding the hard way without any of the exploits other people used to level up. If you missed out on the initial race to 50 then you're not gonna catch up now.
Honestly if you aren't having fun playing right now then you're probably better off leaving before you invest any more time.
Lovely
12-14-2011, 06:34 PM
You are pretty damn mad my friend. I'm truly sorry for whatever I've done to you.
Not sure if you realize this but almost every single person on this server loves me. Wherever I go in game I get mad luuuuv and I appreciate it. I love most of you too!
The only people who dislike me are those with huge ego's who can't handle that I'm just so much better then them. Beside being better then them I'm also way better looking then them and I get hotter chicks then they do. I know it's rough for a few of you. But really, deal with it.
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 06:37 PM
as for real life looks and getting chicks, i got you schooled kid.
as for anything else, why would i play a mage on a server that they made the pets do 50% less dmg.. come on -
everything is still the same right now they will fix it in the patch, so you can't say if you like it right now
i dont care, but i know alot of people wont say anything its a simple fix - leave it the way it is for everyone to use or take it away from the people that used it. nuff said and no this dont annoy a gm, they have the right to read or not to read it.
Uthgaard
12-14-2011, 06:42 PM
as for real life looks and getting chicks, i got you schooled kid.
http://www.weirdthings.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/b_ugly_old_man.jpg
Lovely
12-14-2011, 06:42 PM
Pretty sure you don't my friend. But feel free to prove me wrong.
Good looking guys like myself live a happy and positive life and would never ever hate on anyone. - Just saying.
Better luck next life my friend.
Muaar
12-14-2011, 06:44 PM
this forum is so much easier on the eyes now
Lulz Sect
12-14-2011, 06:59 PM
Good looking guys like myself live a happy and positive life and would never ever hate on anyone. - Just saying.
Rust1d?
12-14-2011, 07:02 PM
guards not assisting scared off masses of people. that was the worst thing that could have happened at launch.
Lovely
12-14-2011, 07:08 PM
Pretty sure little bitches that cry about every single thing on this server scared away most people.
Envious
12-14-2011, 07:11 PM
TL;DR
Rogean
12-14-2011, 07:11 PM
It's pretty funny how the guard thing was barely even mentioned during beta. I'm not saying it wasn't mentioned, but there were only a few and it was not as emphasized. If you want to blame anyone, blame the people that didn't help beta test and only sat there waiting for the server to launch, and are now complaining about things that don't work to their expectation.
Foreverman
12-14-2011, 07:12 PM
to the OP i still dont get how you go from calling all out all the exploits to your Title...doesnt make sense. Where the hell is the favoritism? that the didnt delevel them?
VanEyck
12-14-2011, 07:33 PM
I was going to camp some wands so I could experience fast like Lovely, found out I couldn't and I was mad. However, just because he got there first doesn't mean hell have the upper hand forever. For those of you like me with a shit experience penalty just stay on your grind. The server will change in the next weeks and months. GLHF.
MethodSZ
12-14-2011, 07:37 PM
It's pretty funny how the guard thing was barely even mentioned during beta. I'm not saying it wasn't mentioned, but there were only a few and it was not as emphasized. If you want to blame anyone, blame the people that didn't help beta test and only sat there waiting for the server to launch, and are now complaining about things that don't work to their expectation.
Agreed, but then we have another group of people that did beta test and intentionally kept various exploits a secret to be used at live, with great success.
Basically, you can't win.
solid
12-14-2011, 07:37 PM
It's pretty funny how the guard thing was barely even mentioned during beta. I'm not saying it wasn't mentioned, but there were only a few and it was not as emphasized. If you want to blame anyone, blame the people that didn't help beta test and only sat there waiting for the server to launch, and are now complaining about things that don't work to their expectation.
lolol
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 07:52 PM
Pretty sure you don't my friend. But feel free to prove me wrong.
Good looking guys like myself live a happy and positive life and would never ever hate on anyone. - Just saying.
Better luck next life my friend.
just sayin' not only will i take your gf but i will beat you down kid - you should be happy there is even a celeb playing this game.
at any rate this has nothing to do with what the subject is, i like how you try to change it, but whatever helps you sleep at night is fine by me
Authority
12-14-2011, 07:55 PM
Is that a tattoo cage match? whoever has the most shitty tattoos wins?
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 07:59 PM
It's pretty funny how the guard thing was barely even mentioned during beta. I'm not saying it wasn't mentioned, but there were only a few and it was not as emphasized. If you want to blame anyone, blame the people that didn't help beta test and only sat there waiting for the server to launch, and are now complaining about things that don't work to their expectation.
as for this, i like that the guards do not assist, i hate bluebie newbs that run to them. I am glad its this way -
as for lovely and his group that used these swords on pets to get all the gear they have, now that they are done , the mage he made he wont play anymore - and he will just use his wiz since its geared out and kill anyone that even comes within range so once your 42 you wont get any of this gear and you will have to deal with people like this full geared out people that cheated the system to get what they have, I have been gaming since 1997 - everygame i have ever played if anyone exploited in anyway they were reset or banned. I dont get how people are so stupid that they dont see the only reason he is posting this stuff is becuase he has the gear, they dont need anything anymore gear wise - if you look at some of his screen shots look at his int, then look at it grow in a matter of days becuase hes exploiting gear all of them - they will keep you from getting it. this server will not beable to do it without the stuff they used to get it - this has NOTHING what SO EVER to do with the fact that he used WANDS to lvl up, it the fact that they used exploits to get GEAR that takes along time to get becuase it takes alot of people to do it, and they all want it also, they farmed it with a small group and got everything they need - thats what this thread is about the fact that they used exploits to get gear now they want to share the expolit to make sure noone else gets to use it - leave them lvl 50 i dont care but take the gear from them. make it atleast a fair shot and make them work for something for once in there life, so they dont just run around like a douche bag saying im better than you at pushing a button have higher lvl spells and better gear than you in a gear based and lvl based game - then resorting to im better looking than you? kid come on - i do stuff in real life that you only sit here and dream of -
Mardur
12-14-2011, 07:59 PM
It's pretty funny how the guard thing was barely even mentioned during beta. I'm not saying it wasn't mentioned, but there were only a few and it was not as emphasized. If you want to blame anyone, blame the people that didn't help beta test and only sat there waiting for the server to launch, and are now complaining about things that don't work to their expectation.
Me and a bunch of people mentioned dozens of times that guard assist was the #1 thing needed in beta. So...................
Muaar
12-14-2011, 08:02 PM
I complained about guards being broken during beta.
Actually a shitload of people did, but I believe Nilbog already posted that it is being fixed eventually. I just think it would have been the most important at launch because of how many people I personally saw quit (as in never log in again) after getting rolled at the bank/newbie spawn.
Fixing it now after all of the poor new players/people who didn't get their cocks hard during beta are gone is close but no cigar unless we can somehow lure them back; at which point they will be forced to actually level in classic everquest while the rest of us are level 50/500kpp from patched sploitz.
This server was a perfect beta test! Maybe every mmo from now on should tell people it's launching and let them poopsock and exploit everything for 2 months, see what the real problems are, patch all of that shit, wipe and start fresh.
killer tats turmoil.... i especially like that gay rapist come hither look you got going on in your first picture......
*edit*
maybe you can use some of your built up nerd rage to actually win a fight haha
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 08:16 PM
I complained about guards being broken during beta.
Actually a shitload of people did, but I believe Nilbog already posted that it is being fixed eventually. I just think it would have been the most important at launch because of how many people I personally saw quit (as in never log in again) after getting rolled at the bank/newbie spawn.
Fixing it now after all of the poor new players/people who didn't get their cocks hard during beta are gone is close but no cigar unless we can somehow lure them back; at which point they will be forced to actually level in classic everquest while the rest of us are level 50/500kpp from patched sploitz.
This server was a perfect beta test! Maybe every mmo from now on should tell people it's launching and let them poopsock and exploit everything for 2 months, see what the real problems are, patch all of that shit, wipe and start fresh.
yeah i agree with this 100% and the only way to get them people back is to wipe and start fresh all them people that quit they are still playing eq just on another server - all we can do is hope that the people that run this server can hold their word - i see tons of people boxing left and right - nothing ever done in that fact - i see people using exploits tell they are done then asking for them to be out of the game - it just makse me laugh can't the people that run this server do something? or do they just not care? whats going on here honestly? The only reason I played this server was becuase of how fair and honest you guys were on blue 99 and took care of shit and didnt let people walk all over you -
but here on red99 you guys are getting owned. you guys are a doll on strings getting played with
inimegalg
12-14-2011, 08:28 PM
yeah the guards not assisting ran off alot of people -
but what should happen is they should start everyone over, and i never said grouping with a pet class is a exploit, but you guys knew in beta that you could do it, so you guys duo' with a pet class for fastest xp but dont try to get it taken out of the game after you used it is all im saying.
speak for urself brah.. so let me get this straight i have hair over 4 days play time, lvl 31 with no exploits, no help, no guild, nothing and i should get reset to 0 because a few assholes decided to exploit to 50? seriously who gives a fuck, a wipe will drive people further way.. cuz i know damn well speaking for myself i wouldnt level again
ya'll care about this game way too much if it bothers u that much that some folks cheated themselves and others out of their own experience... this emu, this game isnt relevant nemore.. who gives a shit.. i think of it as a giant playground to revisit some old memories, thats it.. if its more to u, get help.
Daefuin
12-14-2011, 08:31 PM
Planes won't be out for months. If you can't catch up and get a few Guk pieces in 3 months then a server reset wouldn't help you. You're not behind because of exploits, you're behind because you lost. Server is still in its infancy, just chill the fuck out.
Snukie
12-14-2011, 09:11 PM
as for this, i like that the guards do not assist, i hate bluebie newbs that run to them. I am glad its this way -
as for lovely and his group that used these swords on pets to get all the gear they have, now that they are done , the mage he made he wont play anymore - and he will just use his wiz since its geared out and kill anyone that even comes within range so once your 42 you wont get any of this gear and you will have to deal with people like this full geared out people that cheated the system to get what they have, I have been gaming since 1997 - everygame i have ever played if anyone exploited in anyway they were reset or banned. I dont get how people are so stupid that they dont see the only reason he is posting this stuff is becuase he has the gear, they dont need anything anymore gear wise - if you look at some of his screen shots look at his int, then look at it grow in a matter of days becuase hes exploiting gear all of them - they will keep you from getting it. this server will not beable to do it without the stuff they used to get it - this has NOTHING what SO EVER to do with the fact that he used WANDS to lvl up, it the fact that they used exploits to get GEAR that takes along time to get becuase it takes alot of people to do it, and they all want it also, they farmed it with a small group and got everything they need - thats what this thread is about the fact that they used exploits to get gear now they want to share the expolit to make sure noone else gets to use it - leave them lvl 50 i dont care but take the gear from them. make it atleast a fair shot and make them work for something for once in there life, so they dont just run around like a douche bag saying im better than you at pushing a button have higher lvl spells and better gear than you in a gear based and lvl based game - then resorting to im better looking than you? kid come on - i do stuff in real life that you only sit here and dream of -
Sure Mages, Necros, wizards, bards and Druids dont need guard assist they have enough tools early on to beat others or get away. Ive personally seen half a dozen ppl leave because they played Clerics, Warriors, Rogues,Paladins,
and didnt have the time " to regrind the lost xp cuz they got CC besides the guard". Now you see a swarm of clerics, chanters, warriors and paladins all twinked out cuz the upper guilds need those classes for PvE.
I stated in a previous post that most of you are trash and have actually nothing to do with classic EQ PvP. 12 years ago most of you didnt play or played on blue. There are very few here that played on PvP from the very start.
Then again i must agree with Turmoil. Those who stayed and got griefed outlvled should stay on the grind. EQ PvP has never been fair nor will it ever be but there is another truth. Every old PvP Server might it be RZ, VZ or TZ had a group of people that choosed to take the server hostile because they knew the bugs and exploit or simply had the time to rush thru lvls and farm loots. On VZ this band of people didnt lasted long after the server catched up and most of them re rolled after the first year cuz they couldnt go anywhere without beeing gangbanged. This will happend here too...but much much faster.
skorge
12-14-2011, 09:24 PM
It's pretty funny how the guard thing was barely even mentioned during beta. I'm not saying it wasn't mentioned, but there were only a few and it was not as emphasized. If you want to blame anyone, blame the people that didn't help beta test and only sat there waiting for the server to launch, and are now complaining about things that don't work to their expectation.
Yea, the problem was that beta averaged like 30-50 people online (some of that number was probably multi boxers too) so it was hard to really test a lot of things...I never even got PvP'd by guards the whole time I tested and I had a level 50, and two 17s I think. There was one time where Cwall attacked me in Grobb but he was levitating up on a cliff so I assumed that guards didn't see him attack me...other than that I had no clue of this, lol. Kinda funny when you think about it.
Lovely
12-14-2011, 09:27 PM
Ive personally seen half a dozen ppl leave because they played Clerics, Warriors, Rogues,Paladins,
Cleric is the class with most 50's and another one will probably ding 50 today. Just saying browski.
Snukie
12-14-2011, 09:30 PM
That actually proves my point. Still you guild cries for chanters.
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 11:05 PM
speak for urself brah.. so let me get this straight i have hair over 4 days play time, lvl 31 with no exploits, no help, no guild, nothing and i should get reset to 0 because a few assholes decided to exploit to 50? seriously who gives a fuck, a wipe will drive people further way.. cuz i know damn well speaking for myself i wouldnt level again
ya'll care about this game way too much if it bothers u that much that some folks cheated themselves and others out of their own experience... this emu, this game isnt relevant nemore.. who gives a shit.. i think of it as a giant playground to revisit some old memories, thats it.. if its more to u, get help.
im higher lvl than you and i have not exploited anything, i was asked by lovely to join them and etc but i didnt care. the only thing that bothers me on this issuse is that they abused the hell out of it now they are crying for it to be gone since they have everything they need. another thing that bothers me is the fact that noone will do anything to them about it people might as well just start hacking to even the playing fields. so honestly no i dont think anyone wants to lvl the long hard way when other people got to do it fast and quick and full geared - so i would allow my char to go back to lvl 30 or 40 - its just not fair to take stuff out of the game after people used it to bits and pieces. also what bothers me is the fact that them fucknig faggits ass pieces of shit asshats named lovely and his group should have just shut the fuck up about it all and let everyone else use it also - but no them sorry ass no good for nothing players have to get all the shit they need and want then dont let anyone else get it so they can farm you at lvl 42 with there ice comets and full gear why your running around lvl 42 .. how stupid is it anyway to let a lvl 50 attack a lvl 42 are you joking? .. thats 2 spell ranks higher.. what a joke. figures this server would be a joke - make them lvl 40 and fix the problems or this is just a fail ass server and i know alot of people agree with me. the only ones that post on this are lovelys lil peter gazin friends.
Snukie
12-14-2011, 11:13 PM
8 lvls range is fine has been also 12 years ago on VZ/TZ but i agree on the rest.
SearyxTZ
12-14-2011, 11:23 PM
thread in a nutshell
http://cdn.moxiebird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crying-baby.jpg
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 11:24 PM
yeah i played since day on rz - and let me be the first to say. this is not classic at all, read lovelys post they all make him better and nerf evferyone else - its funny. -50% pet dmg thats classic? really?
also they need everything for their guild - becuase their guild fell apart i have friends that were in it, fell apart after all the exploit that got done with lovely they didnt want to be apart of it.
i dont care that this stuff is in the game - but dont take it out now, for the sake of the people that have busted their ass's of playing this game and really are great players and know the game - them are the real players not lovely and his exploited crew of players - but its just very unfair to the people playing if it gets taken out - after people have used it for over a month.
leave it in for everyone to use when they get to that level also - thats the only fair thing to do since noone will punish them for it.
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 11:25 PM
thread in a nutshell
http://cdn.moxiebird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crying-baby.jpg
hey you live right down the street from me, you want to come and tell me that to my face?
if so just let me know - i will show you who will be the one crying - i am speaking for the people that are going to quit if they change stuff or take it out of the game without consequences - nuff said. and yes i would love to fucking punch your dumb ass in the face in real life - please lets meet up. we can make this happen.
Turmoil
12-14-2011, 11:28 PM
the moment someone realises they are wrong they become even more stubborn than when they tought they were right.
go figure. wish rogean would do something about it - give the community some hope show them that you will bann people for boxing and will bann people for exploiting and telling you after they used it all up and are done - makes me laugh that this server gets punked by these people - must be real life friends or something
Truth
12-14-2011, 11:29 PM
hey you live right down the street from me, you want to come and tell me that to my face?
if so just let me know - i will show you who will be the one crying - i am speaking for the people that are going to quit if they change stuff or take it out of the game without consequences - nuff said. and yes i would love to fucking punch your dumb ass in the face in real life - please lets meet up. we can make this happen.
lol
solid
12-14-2011, 11:37 PM
hey you live right down the street from me, you want to come and tell me that to my face?
if so just let me know - i will show you who will be the one crying.
Searyx said he would beat the everliving shit out of you and you're just a tatted up pussy trying to come off as a billy-bad-ass on the forums. Also he fucked+impregnated+made get abortions of every female in your immediate family. Also said you won't do shit about it!
gloinz
12-15-2011, 12:08 AM
Searyx said he would beat the everliving shit out of you and you're just a tatted up pussy trying to come off as a billy-bad-ass on the forums. Also he fucked+impregnated+made get abortions of every female in your immediate family. Also said you won't do shit about it!
no ss didnt happen
Doors
12-15-2011, 01:04 AM
hey you live right down the street from me, you want to come and tell me that to my face?
if so just let me know - i will show you who will be the one crying - i am speaking for the people that are going to quit if they change stuff or take it out of the game without consequences - nuff said. and yes i would love to fucking punch your dumb ass in the face in real life - please lets meet up. we can make this happen.
hahahahahahaha
oldfish
12-15-2011, 02:09 AM
It's pretty funny how the guard thing was barely even mentioned during beta. I'm not saying it wasn't mentioned, but there were only a few and it was not as emphasized. If you want to blame anyone, blame the people that didn't help beta test and only sat there waiting for the server to launch, and are now complaining about things that don't work to their expectation.
Its never too late to do good?
Just turn the guards on?
Also, drop xp loss while youre at it... XD
Authority
12-15-2011, 02:31 AM
I did tae-bo once. I think i haz a chance.
Muaar
12-15-2011, 03:12 AM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ7a4SXYqrd23XOvaKw1s0nxDGHE62qH AFOydj2bjaDXrhCWKn0ppe7hCBmiw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQbMQVAJMA4
Nirgon
12-15-2011, 03:18 AM
Can't l2post in the right section. Also get off Rogean's nuts you ingrates.
Turmoil
12-15-2011, 03:20 AM
Can't l2post in the right section. Also get off Rogean's nuts you ingrates.
why would we want your job? you seem to be doing a great job at it?
Nirgon
12-15-2011, 03:28 AM
"When's Red coming out, oh please oh please"
Give staff a hard time, troll community to turn them against staff etc etc. Give me a break.
Learn to post directly in RNF, people do read both.
Truth
12-15-2011, 03:30 AM
Tim Tebow's War on Christmas
Did Tim Tebow betray the christian movement when on a local television commercial he wished everyone happy holidays? Which side of the war on christmas is Tim Tebow?
Envious
12-15-2011, 03:43 AM
hey you live right down the street from me, you want to come and tell me that to my face?
if so just let me know - i will show you who will be the one crying
Always been a fan of the "LETS FIGHT IRL" routine.
Diggles
12-15-2011, 03:45 AM
I'm pretty sure if I got into an IRL fight I would bring weapons after agreeing to unarmed fisticuffs.
Envious
12-15-2011, 03:46 AM
I'm pretty sure if I got into an IRL fight I would bring weapons after agreeing to unarmed fisticuffs.
"Meet in parking lot", then hit them with your car.
Diggles
12-15-2011, 04:21 AM
http://gamesprays.com/images/icons/keep-it-clean-3416_preview.jpg
Humerox
12-15-2011, 05:36 AM
It's pretty funny how the guard thing was barely even mentioned during beta. I'm not saying it wasn't mentioned, but there were only a few and it was not as emphasized. If you want to blame anyone, blame the people that didn't help beta test and only sat there waiting for the server to launch, and are now complaining about things that don't work to their expectation.
We mentioned it...didn't you say you were going to have guards assist against whoever attacked first? That would at least be a good start, and having the true faction assist would be a huge improvement.
I'd hate to have to dig for the posts...and it isn't a slight against the devs or the server because the rest of us have adapted...but it did run off a lot of people. Bear in mind most folks didn't get on the boards, and yes...beta participation sucked.
OP is pretty incorrect - anyone can do what Lovely did by quad kiting all day and night for a couple weeks. He literally had noone in his range but Illi and maybe Darwoth?
Being a caster that can solo with no competition would have been enough to be first, the red wood wands and other shit are pretty greasey but hardly deserving of a wipe. Even with sword proccing pets you have to dedicate a fair amount of time to hit 50.
Wipe your vagina and deal with it, jesus.
Guard assist doesn't seem like a huge deal to me, it would be nice and probably add a trading hub type zone in FP or some shit - but I can't really think of where it fucked me over past lvl 10.
Sorath
12-15-2011, 07:33 AM
get some SUN sure if serious., serious is sure.
Lovely
12-15-2011, 08:05 AM
Can we get back on topic please it's suppose to be a hate thread about me
SearyxTZ
12-15-2011, 08:27 AM
hey you live right down the street from me, you want to come and tell me that to my face?
if so just let me know - i will show you who will be the one crying - i am speaking for the people that are going to quit if they change stuff or take it out of the game without consequences - nuff said. and yes i would love to fucking punch your dumb ass in the face in real life - please lets meet up. we can make this happen.
lol ok tough guy
What do you expect when you are whining about "staff favoritism" over PvE bugs in emulated everquest? Lovely was going to get 50 before everyone else no matter what, so I don't really get why people are making such a huge deal out of this crap.
SearyxTZ
12-15-2011, 08:33 AM
http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/11/12030/12318949.jpg
Danger
12-15-2011, 08:40 AM
ILL FITE U B0TH RL
Smedy
12-15-2011, 08:43 AM
This thread is awesome, 30 year old men wanting to fight irl over a computer game.
i luv this game
gnomishfirework
12-15-2011, 08:48 AM
Don't blame devs for not fixing something they may not have been aware of.
It's lame to report something only after using it to level, but at least it got reported.
They won't be the only 50s for long.
It's pvp. Grief them off the server. Just be patient.
Rogean
12-15-2011, 09:03 AM
Regardless of guard assist being in or not, I can't believe I have to once again say this, I think I've said it enough:
There will never be a fucking character wipe or server reset. STOP asking about it, STOP trolling about it, We DON'T do them. This is NOT VZ/TZ or any other server you may have been used to that happening.
You guys had your chance to test the server and report bugs and all I heard during beta was bla bla bla server is fine launch it now go go go go. During a time when I was busy as hell at work (and still am), I (and the other devs) busted our asses getting the server out for you guys. You'll have to deal with the consequences of that now.
Beastro
12-15-2011, 09:29 AM
http://zam.zamimg.com/images/i/d/id730.png
skorge
12-15-2011, 10:14 AM
You guys had your chance to test the server and report bugs and all I heard during beta was bla bla bla server is fine launch it now go go go go. During a time when I was busy as hell at work (and still am), I (and the other devs) busted our asses getting the server out for you guys. You'll have to deal with the consequences of that now.
This is what really happened during Beta (this is quote from me during Beta):
I quit beta testing for now myself...got a shaman to 50 - way too many bugs IMO. Resists are so retarded it's pointless to even PVP now. I couldn't even land a poison dot on a PC who had just 54 PR (we were purposely testing resists out). No I didn't just cast it once and it got resisted...
Basically the resists were so screwed it caused the majority of the population to quit...at this point only an average of 30 people were online at any given time. You can say that we blew our chance but can you blame us?
I personally do NOT want a wipe and think it would be stupid to do a wipe (at this point). Instead, I would suggest having some kind of experience bonus week (notice I said week, not weekend) to make up for some of the sploiters on the server. This way it would benefit more of the server, by doing a whole week and not just a weekend (some people probably have to work the weekends).
Rust1d?
12-15-2011, 10:14 AM
Regardless of guard assist being in or not, I can't believe I have to once again say this, I think I've said it enough:
There will never be a fucking character wipe or server reset. STOP asking about it, STOP trolling about it, We DON'T do them. This is NOT VZ/TZ or any other server you may have been used to that happening.
You guys had your chance to test the server and report bugs and all I heard during beta was bla bla bla server is fine launch it now go go go go. During a time when I was busy as hell at work (and still am), I (and the other devs) busted our asses getting the server out for you guys. You'll have to deal with the consequences of that now.
I was willing to wait and let you guys take your time since people have RL stuff like work school etc. However, a majority of the neckbearded mouth breathing keyboard warriors did not like that idea and I guess got sick of fapping to tranny porn on 4chan. People who beta tested and found certain exploits/bugs (see lovely and a few others) did not report them and wanted the server to gogoggogogogogo!! before they got fixed.
It was probably best that you released it when you thought it was ready and not when these grandmas boys wanted it.
PhantomRogue
12-15-2011, 10:22 AM
You guys had your chance to test the server and report bugs and all I heard during beta was bla bla bla server is fine launch it now go go go go. During a time when I was busy as hell at work (and still am), I (and the other devs) busted our asses getting the server out for you guys. You'll have to deal with the consequences of that now.
Absolutely not true.
There were hundreds of posts to nerf the recharge on Wands and other insta clickies.
Lovely
12-15-2011, 10:27 AM
Absolutely not true.
There were hundreds of posts to nerf the recharge on Wands and other insta clickies.
Not Classic
PhantomRogue
12-15-2011, 11:01 AM
Not Classic
So because it was broke in Classic, it should be broke here? There's a difference in trying to relive the 'classic' experience, and fixing obviously broken things to be better than Classic.
Lovely
12-15-2011, 11:14 AM
So because it was broke in Classic, it should be broke here? There's a difference in trying to relive the 'classic' experience, and fixing obviously broken things to be better than Classic.
I'm up for your way. They added Ice comet to a quest cuz it was broken in Classic along with other things - works for me.
Absolutely not true.
There were hundreds of posts to nerf the recharge on Wands and other insta clickies.
^^^^^^^^^
Marras
12-15-2011, 11:27 AM
Is there a celebrity MMA fighter up in this thread trying to fight IRL regarding EQ emu?
IF SO, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
skorge
12-15-2011, 11:28 AM
I'm up for your way. They added Ice comet to a quest cuz it was broken in Classic along with other things - works for me.
It wasn't broken in classic...you just needed a Vox drop. How is that being broken? No, you are wrong here buddy...Ice Comet was in-game long before it got updated to be questable. Not because it was broken but because Brad (see this thread (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57656)) decided it would be good to add an additional means to obtain Ice Comet.
You really need to think before you open your mouth, or type, whichever.
Muaar
12-15-2011, 11:35 AM
rogean=lovely? confirmed
Albane
12-15-2011, 11:37 AM
Not Classic
Neither is Harvest, Ice Comet quest, or name changes. They also banned people who were caught exploiting on classic.
EDIT: to simplify the fact people were banned for exploiting, period.
Lovely
12-15-2011, 11:39 AM
Neither is Harvest, Ice Comet quest, or name changes. They also banned people who were caught exploiting pathing on classic.
I truly hope they ban everyone who exploit pathing here also.
Name changes was classic, I changed my name several times on live fyi
Nirgon
12-15-2011, 11:40 AM
Trolling for wipes should = general server chat ban. Restrict user to RNF.
Melveny
12-15-2011, 11:41 AM
Lots of lulz to be had in here
Muaar
12-15-2011, 12:02 PM
They also banned people who were caught exploiting on classic.
:eek:
Lulz Sect
12-15-2011, 12:16 PM
rogean=lovely? confirmed
http://i.imgur.com/nrwBN.jpg
Albane
12-15-2011, 01:53 PM
I truly hope they ban everyone who exploit pathing here also.
Name changes was classic, I changed my name several times on live fyi
Do you already have your second account at 50, because you would be the first person banned as visible in multiple screenshots you posted.
As for the name change, they did not change names on PvP servers. If you were an ass hole from level 1-50, you had a reputation for life. You could not just request a name change.
Melveny
12-15-2011, 02:19 PM
His name was stolen like many others. Lovely got no special treatment with the name, many other players had also got there names back.
I prefer to find him under the name lovely, if it was changed from lovely to something else that would be different.
Snukie
12-15-2011, 02:30 PM
Who cares actually...for me lovely is that someone that is 50 hanging out in dungeons i cant enter and by the time i enter so will the rest of the server and that thing "lovely" will be somewhere else.
Yinaltin
12-15-2011, 03:08 PM
this is all very sad . proves were made in beta . lovely is on top . toad is right . and banned . and im still lvl 12 after almost 1 1/3 days of played
Nizzarr
12-15-2011, 03:11 PM
yea ban lovely for exploiting eye of zomm, its ridiculous -- how do you get the ghoul lord or the king to evil eye? wow, EXPLOIT.
I also have fraps of lovely solo pulling phinigel to the zone in of kedge, but the GMs did nothing!!!
Melveny
12-15-2011, 03:53 PM
I like how your "big boy" talk posts only happend after you started nut hugging Lovely. Please go sit in the corner wit Reika and let the "iRmasterz" do the "big talk" for you.
Bluebie trying hard.
Nizzarr
12-15-2011, 03:58 PM
I like how your "big boy" talk posts only happend after you started nut hugging Lovely. Please go sit in the corner wit Reika and let the "iRmasterz" do the "big talk" for you.
Bluebie trying hard.
wut wut? you should let cast be the retarded child. I thought he already had that covered up.
Mardur
12-15-2011, 03:59 PM
I like how your "big boy" talk posts only happend after you started nut hugging Lovely. Please go sit in the corner wit Reika and let the "iRmasterz" do the "big talk" for you.
Bluebie trying hard.
I like how Holocaust started their "big boy" talk posts from day 1 and have still failed to deliver anything more than corpse screenshots and ragequitting.
Reika dead twice in FP only time he's been in range, we're mostly melee take it easy there 20 hour a day basement dweller.
Mardur
12-15-2011, 04:11 PM
7v1 big plays
Mardur
12-15-2011, 04:12 PM
confirmed takes 7 holocaust to take 1 reiker down.
and even that took like 10 minutes.
(inb4 wonton and lime talking about their big afk success on me in feerrott)
Zalaerian
12-15-2011, 04:15 PM
Lol reika confirmed offspring of Lumie and Quinloe with a dash of bi-polar. Die less as a cleric you mongloid terribad.
Reikas grp of 6 chased out of CT vs 6 holo when we were barely in range, grats on finally neckbearding out of range and being able to talk.
Reika killed by his own guildmate, left guild and reformed - stole all members away from you as an officer and had you crawl on hands and knees to suck his cock. Real success story here bros.
Lovely
12-15-2011, 04:23 PM
Can we please ban everyone that falsely accuse LEGIT awesomeness players like myself on these forums?
Personally I find it quite hilarious and I'd actually go as far as saying I LUUV IT. But you are sending the wrong message to new people on this server.
Instead of trolling forums just deal with the fact that some people are just better then you.
Daefuin
12-15-2011, 04:24 PM
Regardless of guard assist being in or not, I can't believe I have to once again say this, I think I've said it enough:
There will never be a fucking character wipe or server reset. STOP asking about it, STOP trolling about it, We DON'T do them. This is NOT VZ/TZ or any other server you may have been used to that happening.
Lulz Sect
12-15-2011, 05:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/xn7Wr.jpg
Mardur
12-15-2011, 05:09 PM
Reikas grp of 6 chased out of CT vs 6 holo when we were barely in range, grats on finally neckbearding out of range and being able to talk.
"chased out of CT" aka Holocaust flees CT + Feerrott and allows us to farm rubi and wands in peace.
Kringe
12-15-2011, 05:17 PM
"chased out of CT" aka Holocaust flees CT + Feerrott and allows us to farm rubi and wands in peace.
Are you still gloating on the fact that 95% of the 45+ are in your guild currently?? Relax.... I will revist this post in another month or so..
True, haven 4 ppl plug 1 die and one go MIA was pretty scary. Had to log asap for dinner out of fear.
fiegi
12-15-2011, 05:23 PM
Reika gone from an officer to guild bitch in a 1.5 week span. still makes me chuckle when I think about it
Muaar
12-15-2011, 05:40 PM
Reika dead twice in FP only time he's been in range, we're mostly melee take it easy there 20 hour a day basement dweller.
:)
Lol reika confirmed offspring of Lumie and Quinloe with a dash of bi-polar. Die less as a cleric you mongloid terribad.
:D
Reika killed by his own guildmate, left guild and reformed - stole all members away from you as an officer and had you crawl on hands and knees to suck his cock. Real success story here bros.
:cool:
Reika gone from an officer to guild bitch in a 1.5 week span. still makes me chuckle when I think about it
haaahaaa:p
solid
12-15-2011, 05:43 PM
:)
:D
:cool:
haaahaaa:p
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/Smileys/default/hat.gif
Melveny
12-15-2011, 05:47 PM
wut wut? you should let cast be the retarded child. I thought he already had that covered up.
Must have struck a nerve, lol. Find all post by user, goes from wtb/Wts bluebie shit to continuously nut hugging of Lovely and "big boy" talk.
My guys always use "big boy" talk, long before day 1 or this servers existence, so in not sure how we are being inconsistent.
As far as delivery Reika, ive killed everyone on your gay signature and yourself included. Incoming deny omg no you didn't posts.. :)
Nirgon
12-15-2011, 06:23 PM
Classic is on our side bros. The community damaging scum will pay for their sins against the box.
Marras
12-16-2011, 02:36 AM
Pals Seriously, all kidding and neck tattoos aside -
Celeb MMA fighters on p99red?
solid
12-16-2011, 02:49 AM
Pals Seriously, all kidding and neck tattoos aside -
Celeb MMA fighters on p99red?
Who cares, we've already established that Searyx would manhandle that chump.
"chased out of CT" aka Holocaust flees CT + Feerrott and allows us to farm rubi and wands in peace.
Aesop
12-16-2011, 10:14 PM
You have to admit that it's a foregone conclusion that people knew about this shit in BETA and never reported it.
Not that it matters, the staff clearly doesn't like being criticized and since it's a free emulator they put a lot of time in you might as well just suck it up.
Or alternately as you learn about these "features" just make use of them like anyone else, the precedent of not being punished has been set a long time ago. Overall this server still kicks the shit out of any other server out there so you could try enjoying it and just laughing at the Lovely's of the world instead of crying about it. If he is so bad you will eventually catch up to him in levels and gear, and if he's so bad and you are so good you shouldn't even need the amount of gear he needs.
Lazortag
12-16-2011, 10:20 PM
You have to admit that it's a foregone conclusion that people knew about this shit in BETA and never reported it.
Not that it matters, the staff clearly doesn't like being criticized and since it's a free emulator they put a lot of time in you might as well just suck it up.
Or alternately as you learn about these "features" just make use of them like anyone else, the precedent of not being punished has been set a long time ago. Overall this server still kicks the shit out of any other server out there so you could try enjoying it and just laughing at the Lovely's of the world instead of crying about it. If he is so bad you will eventually catch up to him in levels and gear, and if he's so bad and you are so good you shouldn't even need the amount of gear he needs.
The staff does punish exploits. I successfully reported someone abusing an exploit just the other day. They just don't publicly announce when an exploiter is punished. Also, a lot of the things people call "exploits", are really not exploits at all since they were doable in classic (still it's good that the staff nerfed them, like in the case of red wands). I'd be very surprised if they don't do something about the way Naggy was killed, since that was very clearly exploitative. Maybe they won't ban anyone but I should hope they at least take away the loot (no offense to the guys in Nihilum who I otherwise have no issues with (especially Lovely who I find hilarious) - but we all know the kill was illegitimate).
jrwriter
12-16-2011, 10:31 PM
/play 14days im level 19 is that good?
Troll sk?
Moonface
12-18-2011, 07:04 AM
Regardless of guard assist being in or not, I can't believe I have to once again say this, I think I've said it enough:
There will never be a fucking character wipe or server reset. STOP asking about it, STOP trolling about it, We DON'T do them. This is NOT VZ/TZ or any other server you may have been used to that happening.
You guys had your chance to test the server and report bugs and all I heard during beta was bla bla bla server is fine launch it now go go go go. During a time when I was busy as hell at work (and still am), I (and the other devs) busted our asses getting the server out for you guys. You'll have to deal with the consequences of that now.
Sooooooooo... Address this?
Agreed, but then we have another group of people that did beta test and intentionally kept various exploits a secret to be used at live, with great success.
Basically, you can't win.
Amelinda
12-18-2011, 11:39 AM
Agreed, but then we have another group of people that did beta test and intentionally kept various exploits a secret to be used at live, with great success.
Basically, you can't win.
Then maybe the rest of you should have been less lazy about beta testing and finding exploits and reporting them?
Envious
12-18-2011, 01:35 PM
Then maybe the rest of you should have been less lazy about beta testing and finding exploits and reporting them?
Lol?...
We made tons of threads, posted stuff in general forums, sent PMs... but not all of us were looking for "exploits", or testing the same type of thing.
The failure of this is laid on the people the knew of it and did not report it, and the people that it was reported to, that did not fix it, and released the server.
Mardur
12-18-2011, 01:52 PM
Lovely was the #1 person championing the removal of redwood wands. Not sure what other exploits you're talking about. Nothing crazy has happened except for some halflings getting a few k plat early from that quest.
PhantomRogue
12-18-2011, 02:40 PM
Lol?...
We made tons of threads, posted stuff in general forums, sent PMs... but not all of us were looking for "exploits", or testing the same type of thing.
The failure of this is laid on the people the knew of it and did not report it, and the people that it was reported to, that did not fix it, and released the server.
Quoted.
I posted fuckin SQL code on what to look for and how to fix recharging.
Even if P1999 isnt using the exacty PEQ database (which I know its not), the structure and processes should be similar enough for it not to be completely hard to change the sell rate on a fucking item. EVERY item has this modifier.
Then maybe the rest of you should have been less lazy about beta testing and finding exploits and reporting them?
I'm not sure this excuses the action of someone who abuses the exploit. Not to mention some of the "exploits" people have mentioned were repeatedly reported in BETA (wands/recharging?). Honestly, recharging was in during classic on live but the big difference in many cases is that the drops were rarer and the cost was higher. Right now there is a ridiculous intersection where drop rate, item power and recharge cost meet.
Amelinda
12-18-2011, 02:57 PM
FYI what i said up there was not representative of the staff as far as i know. that is my own personal opinion. I'm not a dev. :P i'm not the boss.
Rogean and Nilbog > me. :)
Pokeman
12-18-2011, 03:00 PM
Pals Seriously, all kidding and neck tattoos aside -
Celeb MMA fighters on p99red?
i am literally phil baroni
fiegi
12-18-2011, 03:23 PM
POKERMAN IS THE NY BADASS?????
Darth Bane
12-18-2011, 06:27 PM
I think the person who made this topic had excellent points, just not the even temperment needed to express them properly.
People have obviously been using exploits, and thus far the only thing actually said about it is "You should have reported it, so deal with it" which is kind of funny considering those posts were immediately followed by people saying they did report it, repeatedly, with no effect.
The people who did use those exploits, definitely for personal gain, didn't report them until after they had used them to full effect in order to make sure no one else could, essentially cheat, like they did.
I can't honestly say I wouldn't have done it myself to level or get gear, but reporting them after I used them so no one else can is incredibly underhanded. That's like a Politician advocating against gay marriage because he just broke up with his secret boyfriend. That's pretty much the definition of hypocrisy, do one thing, say the opposite.
As far as favortism, punish the people who used it. I do not know if it is a herculean effort to find out who used exploits, but letting people abuse something then get it stopped once they are finished is ridiculous. I understand this isn't anywhere near the real Classic EQ, but one of the things that made classic so fun was that everyone was on equal footing. I know for a fact that if you were caught using a bug or exploit to your advantage that Verant would ban you. Hell, you couldn't even have compound names back then unless you hid from GMs the whole time. I was forced to delete my first char or get the account banned because I refused to change my name from Bigmidget.
I know the GMs and coders have a lot to do, and I do truly appreciate the time and effort you all have given, but the reasons/excuses given for this topic have been repeatedly proven wrong by following posts.
I'm unsure as to what course of action is best, but you have banned people for using MQ and ShowEQ but seemingly wish to allow the use of exploits that create a much greater disparity among players than those two programs do.
All in all, something should be done in the sense of equality. If nothing else just suspend the people who used it for a few weeks which will allow many more people to catch up to them. It would impose on them something like the timeframe it would have taken to reach that character and gear level without having used an exploit.
Envious
12-18-2011, 08:43 PM
In before TR favoritism claims and thread lock~
Smedy
12-18-2011, 08:54 PM
can we get back to mma fighters vs searyx factor here please
Uthgaard
12-18-2011, 09:15 PM
Quoted.
I posted fuckin SQL code on what to look for and how to fix recharging.
Even if P1999 isnt using the exacty PEQ database (which I know its not), the structure and processes should be similar enough for it not to be completely hard to change the sell rate on a fucking item. EVERY item has this modifier.
You posted an update query that was syntactically a disaster, and would have introduced a larger problem than it would have fixed. Modifying the sellrate also modifies what you get for an item, not just what the npc charges to sell it back, making an easy to obtain item vendor for 8k plat.
PhantomRogue
12-18-2011, 09:48 PM
You posted an update query that was syntactically a disaster, and would have introduced a larger problem than it would have fixed. Modifying the sellrate also modifies what you get for an item, not just what the npc charges to sell it back, making an easy to obtain item vendor for 8k plat.
Like I said, it was based off of the PEQ database, I dont know the fieldnames or Table Names of the P1999 database, but im damn sure it was used as a basis. The Sell Rate is what the Vendor marks up the buy price at (EDIT: PRICE is the Fieldname on PEQ), shit I can even give you the line of the EQEmu Server Code where it calculates the price if you want that. The Buying Price doesn't change, the "syntax" is fine. I write SQL and Programs for a living, I know how to write a Query.
Using the Query I gave you, It would update the SELLRATE field of the Golem Metal Wand (I could write you another query so I didnt need to find the damn ItemID of the Wand if you really want).
Ok, hows this, so you dont need to find the actual ItemID, just rely on the Name of the Item.
update items
set sellrate = sellrate + 1000.0 -- Arbitrary increase
where [id] in (select [id] from items where UPPER([name]) like '%GOLEM METAL WAND%')
-- Notice im not touching the PRICE field which sets the Price a merchant buys it at
Truth
12-18-2011, 10:48 PM
nerd alert
Chronoburn
12-18-2011, 11:07 PM
Phantom, I'm pretty sure the devs don't need any help with simple update statements.
Truth
12-18-2011, 11:17 PM
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Intricus
12-18-2011, 11:40 PM
rogean=lovely? confirmed
Oh rly? I thought it was Lovely = Ulthgaard :D
PhantomRogue
12-19-2011, 12:20 AM
Phantom, I'm pretty sure the devs don't need any help with simple update statements.
Id sure as hell hope not. But they also shouldn't say a Fix to a problem that was obvious in beta, that supposedly wasn't raised, was wrong when its obvious that its right.
Moonface
12-19-2011, 02:04 AM
IF YOU FOUND A BUG OR EXPLOIT ON LIVE AND USED IT WITHOUT REPORTING IT YOU WOULD SUFFER A BAN OR ROLLBACKS ON LIVE. THE FUCK IS THIS CUSTOM EQ? IF YOU WERE STUPID ENOUGH TO USE THE HELL OUT OF THE EXPLOIT THEN TRY YOUR HARDEST TO GET IT NERFED AFTER YOU DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN FUCKING BANNED.
bottom line, why let all these bugs and shit in game since they were in classic, but not use the same punishments as they did?
kk cool story.
Nirgon
12-19-2011, 03:27 AM
I found a new pathing exploit in Velketor's Labyrinth and Nirgon got put on death row until 2012. I recently made appeals and sprung him.
Obvious exploit gets punished or rolled back. Earrings of sad exploitation all around for the naggy kill imos.
Lovely
12-19-2011, 11:06 AM
Wow is this thread still active. I liek!
Lovely confirmed to have reported more bugs then anyone else on this forum.
Awwalike
12-19-2011, 09:19 PM
Wow is this thread still active. I liek!
Lovely confirmed to have reported more bugs then anyone else on this forum.
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Muaar
12-19-2011, 11:31 PM
1 for every 2 hours
Truth
12-20-2011, 11:01 AM
tryna get mine up to 24
posting to check mine lazy status
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