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Shannacore
12-06-2011, 07:42 PM
Wondering around how much it would cost to build a computer that could run several of the adobe suite programs (At once, usually), and would have p. good graphics for gamez and such.

I don't need/want/can't afford a leet machine, but I am really sick of having to rely on campus computers because my laptop won't run the adobe suite well.

Any thoughts? Are pre-built machines really that bad? I'm not very techy so I assumed that would probably just be the easiest way. If so, any links to any machines?

thx thx thx.

Truth
12-06-2011, 08:14 PM
about a grand for p goog

like double that for leet gaming laptop

lululalana
12-06-2011, 08:20 PM
apple.com/store

Mcbard
12-07-2011, 09:42 AM
You should be able to put together a machine that can handle this for around $1,000. Just make sure you get a LOT of memory, and a pretty decent graphics card/processor. I would also probably pick up an SSD to load the OS/programs and work with, especially if you plan on doing any video editing from your local HD.

Pre-built machines are just a rip off. You can generally build a far superior system to what you would buy pre-built for a lot cheaper.

P.S. To the poster above me: What the hell is with that annoying signature??

Rogean
12-07-2011, 10:09 AM
apple.com/store

/puke

Rogean
12-07-2011, 10:09 AM
P.S. To the poster above me: What the hell is with that annoying signature??

IT'S KAT GIRL, LEAVE HER ALONE, SHES COOL.

Mcbard
12-07-2011, 10:23 AM
A quick google search has led me to this: http://www.katgirlstudio.com/

and this: http://girlandkat.blogspot.com/

aaaaand... this:
Cutting it fine
One morning I looked in the mirror and realised something profound:

I looked like a hedgehog.

For me, the state of my hair is a step function; everything is just fine until EXPLODING SPINY HEDGEPIGS! It's really not. This is probably more a reflection of my tolerance level than the actual process of hairstyle degradation but then, I only got furniture a couple of weeks ago so I think I can be forgiven for having my mind on other matters.

There was also the fact that I could see a trip to the salon going horribly and awfully wrong. For a start, I wasn't yet at the stage where I could have a remotely useful conversation about such a topic in Japanese. I knew the word for 'cut' and for 'hair' but that much was probably deducible from my presence in the shop. I suspected that, even with a photo, any hairdresser would feel anxious about wielding items with (quickly) irreversible effects without more than optimistic finger snipping motions from their client.

Then there was the fact that my hair wasn't typical of the local population. Quite how different Asian and Western hair was for a stylist was a mystery. I wouldn't have thought my hair was particularly tricky; it has a slight wave and a cowslick but it's not a pile of tight ringlets. Still, since I had yet to meet the Japanese pop star of my dreams, I hadn't had the opportunity to run my fingers through other locks to find out.

Being as it was the beginning of December, I could have gritted my teeth for another few weeks and just had it cut in the UK. However, this did not really seem like a long-term solution. Instead, I sent a message to a fellow Sapporo blogger who was originally from South Africa. She had an inviting button on her website labelled 'Ask' which was probably designed to instigate insightful questions such as 'What are your views on the Japanese economy?' or 'Is teaching abroad challenging?' or maybe 'Do you miss zebras?'. What she got from me was 'Do you know of an English speaking hairdresser in Sapporo?' Mundane but oh, what an amazingly affirmative answer! I made an appointment the following weekend and a mental note to ask about zebras later.

Rie from 'Earth' salon trained in London and had lived there for ten years. She was therefore fluent in English, used to Western hair and knew some aspects of the Japanese hairdressing experience would take me by surprise. Like the fact they cover your face with a towel while they wash your hair. Had she not warned me, I might have taken that rather personally.

After the shampoo came a massage. This wasn't just a scalp rub during the wash, but a head, neck and shoulder kneading that lasted about ten minutes. To be honest, I wasn't wearing the best sweater for this; it was a thick white fleece that the girl performing the massage declared was 'fuwa-fuwa', a Japanese onomatopoeia (read: peculiar sound) used for all things furry.

"Have you heard of Reiki?" Rie asked me when she returned. "People say it's Japanese, but we've never heard of it! Reiki?" she asked the girl massaging my shoulders. She got a completely blank look in return. "See?"

Rie took over and began to cut my hair. "When I first moved to London," she told me. "I was too scared to go to a salon because I didn't speak English at the time. Did you feel the same?"

... was there something about my current hair style that suggested the answer to this might be yes?

Rie told me that not only is Asian hair a very different texture from my own Caucasian strands but also the head shape is distinct, being typically flatter at the back. This makes the cut a significantly tailored process. She took a brief note of my photo but then went her own direction, sweeping my hair towards the front. I went slightly cross-eyed as a lock fell between by eyes. She gave it a trim.

"Your hair doesn't want to fall in a parting, it wants to go in a swirl."

I hoped this wasn't a new bodily commentary about the state of my life.

At the end of the cut, I was offered another rinse, but since everything had been beautifully styled I declined. Peaking in the mirror on the way out, I thought the result was slightly Asian.... you know, in a blond haired, blue eyed, pointy nosed sort of way. Maybe it will help with my language skills. Beats talking to a hedgehog in any case.

Rogean
12-07-2011, 10:28 AM
I wasn't being literal, I think I heard someone call it that on IRC or something. meh.

Kabilos
12-07-2011, 11:45 AM
Wondering around how much it would cost to build a computer that could run several of the adobe suite programs (At once, usually), and would have p. good graphics for gamez and such.

I don't need/want/can't afford a leet machine, but I am really sick of having to rely on campus computers because my laptop won't run the adobe suite well.

Any thoughts? Are pre-built machines really that bad? I'm not very techy so I assumed that would probably just be the easiest way. If so, any links to any machines?

thx thx thx.

First things first we would need to know the specs of your laptop. Assuming your running any version of Windows operating system...

right click your My Computer icon and go to properties. Write down the information such as CPU , Memory, Operating system.

Then click on start, Run and type in DXDIAG and enter. Hit yes or no to check against microsoft drivers , doesnt matter.

Go to the Display section and tell us what graphics your system is using.

This will give us a better idea of why adobe won't run on your system and it might be more beneficial to upgrade your ram / os / system instead of having you dump $1K into a new system.

Memory is stupid cheap these days, you can easily put 4gb into a system for around $100 - 200 and stop a bottleneck that is in your system.

But like I mentioned above, Until we know what your working with, we can only blindly point you in the direction of the most elite computers available.

- Kab

dcapotos
12-07-2011, 12:23 PM
I would also probably pick up an SSD to load the OS/programs and work with, especially if you plan on doing any video editing from your local HD.


This x 1000

also, keep in mind the cost of the OS if you are planning on using Windows expect to pay a few hundred for it and the SSD is a few hundred as well for a decently sized drive. You will probably end up getting a HDD along with it to store stuff because SSDs are rather small these days. If you are hoping to do a dual PCIe video card setup keep in mind the price for two cards (and go with NVIDIA not ATI, I've had so many issues with them over the years)

to0p
12-07-2011, 12:50 PM
Wondering around how much it would cost to build a computer that could run several of the adobe suite programs (At once, usually), and would have p. good graphics for gamez and such.
thx thx thx.

Do it toop style, build it urself: intel i7 + 24GB ram + asus mobo + 2tb drive + 2x nvidia cards + win 7 = ~ $1500

Thats all you need, for years...

Oh and a good antivirus/firewall to keep secrets out :cool:

Muzyn
12-07-2011, 01:29 PM
Most (all) of these ideas are bad, especially the idiot who posted the link to Apple's site. Mmm pay double for some sweet marketing. My work is selling off 3 year old quad cores with 4GB ram, 160GB harddrive, 80% efficient powersupplies for $60. It doesn't hurt to look around and ask around before settling on bad advice. (lol Apple)

Kabilos
12-07-2011, 01:38 PM
Most (all) of these ideas are bad, especially the idiot who posted the link to Apple's site. Mmm pay double for some sweet marketing. My work is selling off 3 year old quad cores with 4GB ram, 160GB harddrive, 80% efficient powersupplies for $60. It doesn't hurt to look around and ask around before settling on bad advice. (lol Apple)

One thing you fail to see is that they have not mentioned what they are running on. They may have an I7 QC with a decent system and have dick for ram running it. Until we know what they have, we can only assume it's an e-machine bought from CompUSA on clearance.

Muzyn
12-07-2011, 03:30 PM
One thing you fail to see is that they have not mentioned what they are running on. They may have an I7 QC with a decent system and have dick for ram running it. Until we know what they have, we can only assume it's an e-machine bought from CompUSA on clearance.

We are all HP, all our desktops, laptops & servers are straight from HP. I know exactly what is in them as I select the configurations we purchase.

Kabilos
12-07-2011, 05:33 PM
We are all HP, all our desktops, laptops & servers are straight from HP. I know exactly what is in them as I select the configurations we purchase.

So you configured and purchased the systems that Shannacore is using?

Muzyn
12-08-2011, 11:37 AM
So you configured and purchased the systems that Shannacore is using?

I think I misunderstood your post, I didn't read her posts completely. Too much effort to go back now. :p

SwordNboard
12-08-2011, 12:01 PM
Once you do figure out what you want/need, goto newegg.com to piece it together.

Gwence
12-08-2011, 08:36 PM
you can get 4gb of ram for way cheaper than $100-200

more like $20-40

loopholbrook
12-08-2011, 08:38 PM
You should be able to put together a machine that can handle this for around $1,000. Just make sure you get a LOT of memory, and a pretty decent graphics card/processor. I would also probably pick up an SSD to load the OS/programs and work with, especially if you plan on doing any video editing from your local HD.

Pre-built machines are just a rip off. You can generally build a far superior system to what you would buy pre-built for a lot cheaper.

P.S. To the poster above me: What the hell is with that annoying signature??

I too have a problem with the signature. I'm not sure why it exist or why it's being used, but every time I see it I rage inside my head.

Pringles
12-11-2011, 06:43 PM
We are all HP, all our desktops, laptops & servers are straight from HP. I know exactly what is in them as I select the configurations we purchase.

LOL HP. You were bagging on Apple then fanboi for HP? Really?

Quizy
12-12-2011, 06:23 AM
If you are a web designer and use adobe suite its just sooo much easier to use on a mac... from a designers stand point.....

If you have the cash get a macbook pro.... or a lenovo thinkpad.

bizzum
12-12-2011, 07:18 AM
I recently built a rig that with i7 processor, 16gb ram, ssd, 1.5gb gfx card etc. that runs everything I could wish it to with no problems for about 1600 including monitor, mouse, and keyboard.

My advice is if you are not in a rush, shop around on newegg for parts, get an idea of what you want, and over the course of a month buy them when one goes on sale. How many times did I receive some e-mail ad from them with the thing I just bought for like 30 dollars cheaper. You could probably save a hundred or two doing this.

I'd say you could build something to run multiple adobe programs for less than 1400, if you want to step it up a notch for ultra game settings and stuff probably more like under 1800, depending on what brands you buy and what your preferences are.

SSD all the way though, best piece of hardware I bought for it by far.

If you're going to be doing editing and designing, don't kill yourself with a shitty laptop screen and make your legs burn. Invest in dual monitors and a nice office chair, and do away with the laptop foolishness.

Amelinda
12-12-2011, 12:30 PM
IT'S KAT GIRL, LEAVE HER ALONE, SHES COOL.

even *I* Like this sig.

Diggles
12-12-2011, 01:19 PM
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Rogean
12-12-2011, 02:10 PM
SSDs are so superior to their mechanical counterparts. I just bought a mushkin sata 3 120gb for a new $1800 laptop I'm getting from work.

Truth
12-12-2011, 03:35 PM
you can get 4gb of ram for way cheaper than $100-200

more like $20-40

My thoughts exactly. Was :confused:.

I too have a problem with the signature. I'm not sure why it exist or why it's being used, but every time I see it I rage inside my head.

fat

LOL HP. You were bagging on Apple then fanboi for HP? Really?

Fanboi'isms aside, they're both "goog" companies with Indian support and decent prebuilt packages especially if you're getting a laptop. However you can't argue against HP being more budgetable for the exact same hardware.

If you are a web designer and use adobe suite its just sooo much easier to use on a mac... from a designers stand point.....

If you have the cash get a macbook pro.... or a lenovo thinkpad.

thinkpad >

Rais
12-12-2011, 04:30 PM
I just installed a SSD also. The thing is a beast. Installed Win7 in a span of like 5 mins. I don't have the beast computer like most people, but mine does everything I need with no issues for best bang for buck (2009 style).


AMD Phenom II X4 940 processor
8 Gigs of ram
120 Gig SSD
Crosshair II MB (Better motherboards out now)

There are better CPUs out now that can run everything you need. Going i7 or even i5 for the price over AMD is pointless. Unless you are going to be running 40 programs and expect them all to open as soon as you click on them, I'd save the extra $200 on the cpu alone and go with a 4core/6core.

Key to new pc. SSD, Ram, 4-6 core. You can build a beast for 400-500 dollars as it is.

If you want to spend 1k+ for a computer that won't be "outdated" in the next 2 years go the i7 route. As it is my pc from 2009 isn't slowed down.

Gwence
12-13-2011, 01:06 PM
How many times did I receive some e-mail ad from them with the thing I just bought for like 30 dollars cheaper. You could probably save a hundred or two doing this.



If you call them up when this happens they will almost always give you the difference back on your debit/credit card. Happened to me when I bought my power supply, was $30 cheaper the next week and they gave me the difference back on my debit card.


SSDs are so superior to their mechanical counterparts. I just bought a mushkin sata 3 120gb for a new $1800 laptop I'm getting from work.


I have a mushkin cronos as well 120 gb, they ship with latest firmware and I ran a couple benchmarks to see how close to spec I was getting with it. I actually went over 550 MB/s on ATTO on the compressed sequential reads.

mushkin makes good stuff