Fearing engaged mobs training?

[Tyen01]

I plan on agroing people's pets and running it through KOS mobs.

I also plan on fearing pets, and mobs that people are fighting.


Is this legal.

[Ssleeve]

No, currently suspended.

Without warning as well, I would be careful with even bard rooting and other mob involved activities.

I was surprised to learn that "training" has a wide variety of definitions, thing is people haven't been reporting very much on anything not involving FD.

I asked if there could be a thread posted about specifics of mob involvement in PvP that is considered training.

[Smedy]

salty with the big PLAN B

plan A has failed

[wingman]

how is fearing someone elses mob training? they should be proactive and root/snare their mobs..

[gnomishfirework]

If I feel the need to attack a bard, and I find them AE kiting, I'm going to root them.

[Grento]

how is fearing someone elses mob training? they should be proactive and root/snare their mobs..

[Muaar]

more like engaging feared noobs

[Softcore PK]

You're all gonna call me blue again, but I really hope this is considered training. Intentional xp loss (pve death) was never okay on live, excepting Sullon Zek. And there are already much fewer play nice rules. Really the only rule is no training, and people keep looking for ways around that.

[Muaar]

ban anyone who fears anything

make fear trigger insta ban on caster

[Nirgon]

Fearing a mob vs fearing someone's pet... pretty grey area that we need a hard and fast rule for.

[Softcore PK]

Fearing a mob vs fearing someone's pet... pretty grey area that we need a hard and fast rule for.

How about creating a train to kill others intentionally, no matter how it's done, is against the rules?

[Muaar]

Yeah how would someone who got attacked in Blackburrow and feared the attackers pet thus training the entire zone and wiping 3 groups be dealt with?

The necros choices would be to either get solo'd by a mage pet or fear it, training everyone.

[Nirgon]

How about creating a train to kill others intentionally, no matter how it's done, is against the rules?

How about explicit definition?

[Softcore PK]

Okay, I see your point :)

Personally I'd like to see fear when cast on pets become a stun for that duration + a few more seconds for the time it would have taken pet to run back. Since that won't happen, and most pets can be easily destroyed by their owners, fearing pets should be okay.

[pickled_heretic]

fearing a pet would cause a train. but your fear isn't what caused the train, it was the pet. so in other words, summoning a pet anywhere should be grounds for permanent banning for intentionally creating trains.

[Nirgon]

Let's consider this in places like plane of fear and hate instead of just black burrow and south karana.

What's fair to say? No fearing pets in pvp? No fearing pets where it could create a train? No one is therefore allowed on raids to have pets because of the risk? ... see my point?


I see pets as a risk on raids, they've always been considered one and this should be legal.

[Slave]

So if someone sics their pet on you, you cannot run near or around KOS mobs. Because that person's pet is trying to attack you, you are supposed to limit your range of movement? Am I their pet's keeper? I am going to try to survive. I am going to blind the mob and snare it and run near Shadowed Men and do everything in my power to destroy the person who is attacking me with it. So I would be banned?

That line of reasoning would be absolutely fucking retarded. Unsuspend this man immediately if that is the reason for his suspension. If I'm a bard, I would stay the hell away from other people while kiting. You know, with my unmatchably high run speed? Oh wait, Selos isn't working properly in pvp. GMs seriously need to think about where this is leading. Do we want a blue box or a red box here?

[Muaar]

only solution: training is legal

its almost fucking impossible to do on this server anyways. Ive had close to 10 people try to train me and they die with a giant pile of mobs right on top of me but none of them aggro.

[Slave]

only solution: training is legal

its almost fucking impossible to do on this server anyways. Ive had close to 10 people try to train me and they die with a giant pile of mobs right on top of me but none of them aggro.

Seriously the game mechanics for mob aggro are so screwed up right now that this is true. The only way to train someone is to FD right on top of them or run social mobs onto the one they're fighting. Those should be the ONLY TWO things considered to be training.

[Nirgon]

only solution: training is legal

its almost fucking impossible to do on this server anyways. Ive had close to 10 people try to train me and they die with a giant pile of mobs right on top of me but none of them aggro.

No, pets have been considered a risk for trains. This leads to very stupid grey areas. Someone needs to be able to quickly access logs related to an NPC being agro. If someone sends their pet after you, doesn't call it back and you FD a mob on it... well you have screwed up as the pet owner imo.

[Slave]

No, pets have been considered a risk for trains. This leads to very stupid grey areas. Someone needs to be able to quickly access logs related to an NPC being agro. If someone sends their pet after you, doesn't call it back and you FD a mob on it... well you have screwed up as the pet owner imo.

I think most pet users themselves would agree.

I was with a mage when we were attacked by a druid. The druid ran the mage's pet through a griffin and when the griffin came back and wasted the mage, he said, "damn, noob mistake." There was no thought in our minds about petitioning it.

[Lazortag]

I think the test of whether it's a train should be whether you had aggro on the mobs at some point.

This means:

-fearing someone's mob is considered training
-charming a mob, attacking someone with it, and zoning right away is considered training

-fearing a player's pet is NOT considered training
-rooting a player mid-kite is NOT considered training
-aggroing a pet and running behind a KOS mob is NOT considered training

Are we all okay with this?

[Darwoth]

fearing pets/mobs was always a tactic, just like when someone charms something and their opponent dispels the pet causing charm to break and the pet to attack the owner.

this type of stupid crap is why we need clearly defined and explained rules now, and said rules needs to be limited to "dont hack"

[Truth]

I don't even know what to say anymore bluebies thinking new pvp server = new server

what i mean is stop spamming petition queue over every little thing you're going to get griefed anyways it doesnt matter how it is done

[Softcore PK]

I think the test of whether it's a train should be whether you had aggro on the mobs at some point.

This means:

-fearing someone's mob is considered training
-charming a mob, attacking someone with it, and zoning right away is considered training

-fearing a player's pet is NOT considered training
-rooting a player mid-kite is NOT considered training
-aggroing a pet and running behind a KOS mob is NOT considered training

Are we all okay with this?

This does make a lot of sense.

fearing pets/mobs was always a tactic, just like when someone charms something and their opponent dispels the pet causing charm to break and the pet to attack the owner.

this type of stupid crap is why we need clearly defined and explained rules now, and said rules needs to be limited to "dont hack"

Always since when? On Vallon Zek if you feared NPCs people were engaged in like this it would be against the rules. And some people did face punishment for it, the few times they were caught.

[Castle]

Charming mobs and zoning = NOT training
Fearing mobs ppl engaged = NOT training
Faaring pets = NOT training..

crap.. do we gotta bring back the wambulance?
http://www.hoseheadforums.com/images/uploadedimages/Forums/media/Big%20Slim/Wambulance.jpg It's apart of the game, it's a red server, stop whining.

[Darwoth]

always since always, nobody gives a shit what you pretend happened on vallon zek in various threads. vallon and tallon zek were hardly even able to be considered pvp servers anyway.

[Grento]

I have a great idea. If someone does something like train you, how about you do something like.. I don’t know.. kill them repeatedly until they lose so much exp they send you a rage tell? Mission accomplished and you get some lulz. Better yet, do some recon work and find out when they are doing something like camping an item for a long period of time and then go ruin their fun repeatedly after they have been there for hours.

[Lazortag]

Charming mobs and zoning = NOT training
Fearing mobs ppl engaged = NOT training
Faaring pets = NOT training..

crap.. do we gotta bring back the wambulance?
http://www.hoseheadforums.com/images/uploadedimages/Forums/media/Big%20Slim/Wambulance.jpg It's apart of the game, it's a red server, stop whining.

No one's whining except you and the two or three other people who insist that training should be legal every single time the issue is brought up. Just because it's sometimes hard to catch and its definition is sometimes nebulous is no reason we should make it entirely legal.

All I've done is come up with very simple rules about what's considered training and what isn't. No one has to agree with them, but I think it does conform to many people's intuition on what constitutes training. I'm trying to help out the staff who maybe don't have a clear idea on what training is. Since they're never going to legalize training, you should actually contribute to clarifying what training is, like I'm trying to do.

[Albane]

No, currently suspended.

Without warning as well, I would be careful with even bard rooting and other mob involved activities.



I would like to know if rooting a bard kiting mobs is considered an offense. Since this is a guaranteed way to cause 9% xp loss, it seems even worse than training.

[Diggles]

Root bards like its a bad habit

[Grento]

yeah, lets make snaring or rooting any kiting class while they are kiting a bannable offense imho

[gloinz]

make training in all forms LEGAL this isnt bluebieville man up

[Nirgon]

All these trollers for "make training legal" will be some punks made bitches when they are trying to xp from 40 to 50 and all the people who got 50 first are griefing them by pulling shit through whatever safe camp they're @ and casting gate, FD, or just usually training mobs to zone will cause them to path back on top.

You have no idea what you're talking about when asking for training other than the usual try to troll the devs into destroying another server. Mind you, you're the same people begging for confirmations months ago that Red99 was not just a myth.

To all the people asking for legal training, I'd request the GMs make it legal for me to train them for a night and I'll see if I can change their tune.

[Darwoth]

yeah badass nirgon is going to do anything other than die 50 times, give me a damn break. i played on rallos and sullon, sullon was vastly superior since you did not have to be concerned about some retard gm arbitrarily kicking you off the server for unintentional trains as happened on rz constantly.

overreaching rules are infinitely more detrimental to a server than anything else.


training was not much of an issue on sullon since everybody knew how to deal with them.

[Diggles]

yeah, lets make snaring or rooting any kiting class while they are kiting a bannable offense imho

mad bard and we're going to root you until your face is blue

[Slave]

training was not much of an issue on sullon since everybody knew how to deal with them.

It really wasn't.

[Diggles]

training is an ultimate form of bluebie pvp and we should embrace it

[Grento]

mad bard and we're going to root you until your face is blue

I actually don’t play a kiting class, I was just chiming in with another silly rule for them to add.

[Muaar]

make training in all forms LEGAL this isnt bluebieville man up

plus if you get trained on this server you probably attacked a mob yourself because aggro doesnt transfer very well at all

[Nirgon]

yeah badass nirgon


Have bard round up a shit load of mobs oor, evac him on top of someone/group outdoors. Yeah good luck xping with me doing that OOR to people.

Or I'll just train Crushbone for a few hours until people learn to play.


Bad ass Darwoth, so edgy.

[Grento]

Have bard round up a shit load of mobs oor, evac him on top of someone/group outdoors. Yeah good luck xping with me doing that OOR to people.

Or I'll just train Crushbone for a few hours until people learn to play.


Bad ass Darwoth, so edgy.

Not sure about edgy but some of the shit his guild did in darkfall was fucking hilarious. Stealing entire guild banks etc. Pure fucking gold.

I hope we get some more of those antics here.

[Darwoth]

all depends on how faggy they make the ruleset =/

[Darwoth]

Have bard round up a shit load of mobs oor, evac him on top of someone/group outdoors. Yeah good luck xping with me doing that OOR to people.

Or I'll just train Crushbone for a few hours until people learn to play.


Bad ass Darwoth, so edgy.

yeah and everyone in the group goes invis while you run around looking like a moron until you get bored, or when the evaccer starts his 8 second spell that the bard needs to be next to they walk 10 feet away. your tactics are amazing nirgon.

[Nirgon]

Average Joe is sure going to be able to hang with these rules. I mean kudos to you if you can hang with this rule in place, I'm sure I can too.

What I do know is the general population can't and this place will clear out. Most people are already scared away by just the pvp in general, or minor xp loss on pvp.

If you have 2 brain cells to rub together, you can see how this would kill the population. I'm not saying an intelligent person or group can't avoid a train.


walk 10 feet away

Try this in lower guk past the safe hall or in a raid zone.

I'm just amazed you think it's impossible to train and kill people for as much as you claim to know about EQ. Luckily the staff isn't a group of smack tards.

[Darwoth]

yeah lguk is about the only effective zone for your retarded scenario, sounds like a good reason that zone should be ffa like perma and sol b.

[Lazortag]

yeah and everyone in the group goes invis while you run around looking like a moron until you get bored, or when the evaccer starts his 8 second spell that the bard needs to be next to they walk 10 feet away. your tactics are amazing nirgon.

Ever heard of see invis? Ever heard of rez box training? An OOR Bard can absolutely decimate any group of people if training is allowed. If you want to kill the server, this is probably the fastest way to do it.

[Nirgon]

yeah lguk is about the only effective zone for your retarded scenario, sounds like a good reason that zone should be ffa like perma and sol b.

^ more self promoting bull shit. You're so hard dawg. I don't have time to spell out every example for you, nor do I care to lol.

[Darwoth]

self promoting what? lguk perma kedge and solb are the end game zones, 3 are already ffa the other should be as well.

[Darwoth]

Ever heard of see invis? Ever heard of rez box training? An OOR Bard can absolutely decimate any group of people if training is allowed. If you want to kill the server, this is probably the fastest way to do it.

are the mobs going to have see invis dumbshit? pretty sure nobody is concerned about the oor bard slaying them.

you people are idiots that come up with the most ridiculous scenarios, yeah i am sure teams of people are going to dedicate themselves to training you out of the newbiezone, retards.

training occurs in a handful of locations, most of said locations are ffa and thus snaring/rooting/dispelling the trainer eliminates the problem, argueing with a bluebie and a walking dirtnap from RZ that have no idea what their talking about is tedious and annoying.

[Nirgon]

All zones ffa, training legal, I'm so hard let's do this. (Population < 80).

[Kabilos]

Rogean should just say fuck it and let you guys do whatever you want. In the end, the server will have it's own ruleset. PVP is PVP. No matter how you cut it. You want to be the baddest, well deal with the shit that comes along with it.

Every time you /petition, you show us exactly how bluebie you really are. Each and every one of you.

[Slave]

Or maybe people are wondering why, on a supposed PvP server, that you're not allowed to do things that are inherent in the game mechanics themselves.

Do you even have any idea how awesome Darkfall would have been if Aventurine INC was not so unprepared and inexperienced? That was the #1 most anticipated game by the extremely sizable PvP crowd EVER. People went nuts over it, so much so that you could not even order the game on launch (or even WEEKS into the game!!) People were bragging that they got to buy it first.

Red 99 COULD BE that game. Drop the No-Drop tags, drop the play nice policy, and allow 1 item loot per kill. Then whore it out as the hardest core, most fun PvP game ever made. Population = 10,000. Good luck with your network provider on that.

Seriously: WHY WHY WHY is there a play nice policy in PvP? Why should I be nice to people who I, being a PvPer, inherently want to kill? Sullon Zek population exploded over Rallos Zek for exactly this reason.

[Nirgon]

Take it up with the staff and you should get the expected no response for good reason, you dumb dumbs.

[Smashem]

Or maybe people are wondering why, on a supposed PvP server, that you're not allowed to do things that are inherent in the game mechanics themselves.

Do you even have any idea how awesome Darkfall would have been if Aventurine INC was not so unprepared and inexperienced? That was the #1 most anticipated game by the extremely sizable PvP crowd EVER. People went nuts over it, so much so that you could not even order the game on launch (or even WEEKS into the game!!) People were bragging that they got to buy it first.

Red 99 COULD BE that game. Drop the No-Drop tags, drop the play nice policy, and allow 1 item loot per kill. Then whore it out as the hardest core, most fun PvP game ever made. Population = 10,000. Good luck with your network provider on that.

Seriously: WHY WHY WHY is there a play nice policy in PvP? Why should I be nice to people who I, being a PvPer, inherently want to kill? Sullon Zek population exploded over Rallos Zek for exactly this reason.
Needs to be more SZers around here. Rules are what they are on this server because it seems most people came from RZ.

[Slave]

Needs to be more SZers around here. Rules are what they are on this server because it seems most people came from RZ.

Don't get me wrong, I played RZ at first too like most, and there are some mechanics there that could easily be applied to R99 to make it more exciting; I am becoming a fan of item loot in my own mind (if no-drop tags do not exist).

[Tassador]

remove "/petition" from the red server and allow the player versus player era to thrive.

[Nuggie]

The difference here is the same as Demo's vs Repub's.

The end i think is the same. Server full of griefers will run off the pop.

Make training legal = less drama for GM's. GM's stick around longer, but eventually find other things they would rather do with their lives and leave. Griefers chase away bluebie population = empty server.

Keep training a banable offense = much headache for GM's and they find things they would rather do with their lives sooner. chasing GM's away with petty bullshit pretty much makes training legal due to lack of anyone to enforce it.

More thoughts later.

[Ssleeve]

the difference between what you did and the example involving the bard is this; you are allowed to attack a player that is engaged with a mob, so there's no problem with attacking the bard. but when a player manipulates mobs/npcs in such a way to cause death or attempts to cause death, is considering training.

the suspension was for 3 days starting yesterday.

have fun and good luck

Clarification PM for those interested in topic.

Do not fear engaged mobs you will be suspended without warning.

Interacting with them in a way to intend death for another player is considered training.

[Nune]

tl;dr version of this thread:

I'm bad at PvP so I need the help of mobs.

[Ssleeve]

tl;dr version of this thread:

I'm bad at PvP so I need the help of mobs.

One of the few ways to kill OOR people, nothing to do with PvP skill.

Troll better

[Softcore PK]

One of the few ways to kill OOR people, nothing to do with PvP skill.

Troll better

There's no need to kill oor people.

[Nirgon]

GM's stick around longer

Sirken and Amelinda aren't two people you will scare away easily from what I've seen.

[rangers_suck]

lets use a little bit of our brains on the fearing pets topic...first off /pet get lost. boom. no impending train. havent seen it mentioned here, and i cant believe no one thought of hotkeying it, but i stopped reading a few pages in. sucks that you lose your pet but thats something to deal with.

lets make a scenario and assume both players are rule following good guys. a mage engages an sk in guk.

if fearing pet is a training offence:
sk gets rooted by earth pet and starts to tap the mage. root continues to recast forever till the end of time and sk dies.

if fearing a pet isnt a training offence:
sk gets rooted by pet, proceeds to spam fear till it channels and pet tears off into the distance. mage smacks his handy dandy /pet get lost key, pet dies along with the chances of a train, and the root wears off. pvp continues and they do their little dance.


oh and lets do something useful and start a petition to get white/red/green system in k go

[john_savage1982]

We should create a system with a list of known petitioners so the hardcores can seek them out and kill them until they leave the server.

[Diggles]

we need Uthgaard to gm this server for realz

[Salty]

There's no need to kill oor people.

Confirmed dumb at pvp

[Diggles]

anti-PKs dont see a reason to kill anyone unless they strike first, guy. OOR people don't strike first

[Salty]

That doesn't mean the mentality is correct.

[Nuggie]

Sirken and Amelinda aren't two people you will scare away easily from what I've seen.

Neither was Uth. He met his limit. Everyone has one. Right?

[Salty]

Sirken will never get scared away.

Already confirmed to the community.

[Diggles]

Sirken and Amelinda could pretty much just absolutely destroy anyone on this server with their razor sharp wit.

[Nirgon]

Neither was Uth. He met his limit. Everyone has one. Right?

I think that situation was a little different.

[Salty]

Uth was just a big vagina about everything.

[Diggles]

Neither was Uth. He met his limit. Everyone has one. Right?

Uth left due to some in-staff drama. Nothing to do with players

[Yagebasto]

lets use a little bit of our brains on the fearing pets topic...first off /pet get lost. boom. no impending train. havent seen it mentioned here, and i cant believe no one thought of hotkeying it, but i stopped reading a few pages in. sucks that you lose your pet but thats something to deal with.

lets make a scenario and assume both players are rule following good guys. a mage engages an sk in guk.

if fearing pet is a training offence:
sk gets rooted by earth pet and starts to tap the mage. root continues to recast forever till the end of time and sk dies.

if fearing a pet isnt a training offence:
sk gets rooted by pet, proceeds to spam fear till it channels and pet tears off into the distance. mage smacks his handy dandy /pet get lost key, pet dies along with the chances of a train, and the root wears off. pvp continues and they do their little dance.


oh and lets do something useful and start a petition to get white/red/green system in k go



^^^^ agree with this completely

if you are too retarded to pay attention to where your pet is and don't know what "pet go away" is, then you deserve whats coming to you. Boggles my mind how whiny some players are. This server is turning from red -> purple....I thought R99 was for the hard-cores..

[Woosa]

lets use a little bit of our brains on the fearing pets topic...first off /pet get lost. boom. no impending train. havent seen it mentioned here, and i cant believe no one thought of hotkeying it, but i stopped reading a few pages in. sucks that you lose your pet but thats something to deal with.

lets make a scenario and assume both players are rule following good guys. a mage engages an sk in guk.

if fearing pet is a training offence:
sk gets rooted by earth pet and starts to tap the mage. root continues to recast forever till the end of time and sk dies.

if fearing a pet isnt a training offence:
sk gets rooted by pet, proceeds to spam fear till it channels and pet tears off into the distance. mage smacks his handy dandy /pet get lost key, pet dies along with the chances of a train, and the root wears off. pvp continues and they do their little dance.


oh and lets do something useful and start a petition to get white/red/green system in k go

Makes sense, its prtty stupid this is even being discussed, if you dont want your pet to get aggro from mobs when feared...dismiss...why should pet classes get special treatment.

[Drinks]

Quote:
Originally Posted by rangers_suck View Post
lets use a little bit of our brains on the fearing pets topic...first off /pet get lost. boom. no impending train. havent seen it mentioned here, and i cant believe no one thought of hotkeying it, but i stopped reading a few pages in. sucks that you lose your pet but thats something to deal with.

lets make a scenario and assume both players are rule following good guys. a mage engages an sk in guk.

if fearing pet is a training offence:
sk gets rooted by earth pet and starts to tap the mage. root continues to recast forever till the end of time and sk dies.

if fearing a pet isnt a training offence:
sk gets rooted by pet, proceeds to spam fear till it channels and pet tears off into the distance. mage smacks his handy dandy /pet get lost key, pet dies along with the chances of a train, and the root wears off. pvp continues and they do their little dance.


oh and lets do something useful and start a petition to get white/red/green system in k go.

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Agree.

[Nirgon]

^ Red White Green = from March 2001.

[Mouse]

There are seriously way too many bluebelly cry baby bitches whining about XP loss in this thread.

[Smedy]

I've heard some rumor about rooting someone who is kiting is illegal? That's the most stupid shit i've ever heard, so now lets take this into pvp senario:

Shit i'm outnumbered and pvp is coming torwards me, fast run get a mob on you and run around like an idiot and be immune to pvp cause your kiting..

many lulz

[Mouse]

I've heard some rumor about rooting someone who is kiting is illegal? That's the most stupid shit i've ever heard, so now lets take this into pvp senario:

Shit i'm outnumbered and pvp is coming torwards me, fast run get a mob on you and run around like an idiot and be immune to pvp cause your kiting..

many lulz


This.

[Ssleeve]

the difference between what you did and the example involving the bard is this; you are allowed to attack a player that is engaged with a mob, so there's no problem with attacking the bard. but when a player manipulates mobs/npcs in such a way to cause death or attempts to cause death, is considering training.

the suspension was for 3 days starting yesterday.

have fun and good luck

[Smedy]

ah cool so rooting someone kiting is fine, but pulling mobs to someone who is rooted then rooting the mobs next to him is considered training, i see the logic in that.

[Darwoth]

getting rid of the kid gloves and these pussbag rules is long past due, in spite of the handful of forum crybabies most people playing do not want to be restricted in what they can do in pvp.

[Cwall]

darwoth so dark and edgy xD lets kill the box together d00d!!

personally i hate healthy populations anyway; i love having 75 people at peak hours too

[Salty]

manipulates mobs/npcs in such a way to cause death or attempts to cause death

Fearing an NPC that a player is attacking.
Cancel Magic on an NPC a player is attacking.

This is training?

[Ssleeve]

Fearing an NPC that a player is attacking.
Cancel Magic on an NPC a player is attacking.

This is training?

Yes, now that the word is out let the petitions begin!

[Diggles]

i'm stupid

[Envious]

STAFF ENFORCED RULES SUCH A GREAT IDEA!

SO GLAD!

[Mouse]

STAFF ENFORCED RULES SUCH A GREAT IDEA!

SO GLAD!

Confirmed http://www.mysocalledsensorylife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Blue.png thread.

[SearyxTZ]

Fearing an NPC that a player is attacking.
Cancel Magic on an NPC a player is attacking.



I'd say yes to the first (which is likely going to bring mobs back onto him and essentially produce the same effect as a Monk FD flopping a choo-choo).

And no to the second.


You guys aren't dumb (well.... some of you aren't), so quit playing dumb. If you bring extra NPCs onto someone, then you're in the wrong.

[Lazortag]

What about charming a decaying skeleton, giving it symbol of naltron, shield of lava, sow, then zoning. Think of the newbies!

[Diggles]

I want to do that on blue.

[Ssleeve]

Confirmed http://www.mysocalledsensorylife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Blue.png thread.

[Diggles]

suspended players arent allowed to talk

[Salty]

I'd say yes to the first (which is likely going to bring mobs back onto him and essentially produce the same effect as a Monk FD flopping a choo-choo).

And no to the second.


You guys aren't dumb (well.... some of you aren't), so quit playing dumb. If you bring extra NPCs onto someone, then you're in the wrong.

Searyx, you are a stupid fuck.

grabbing un-agroed mobs onto someone is training.

Engaging a mob is something you need to not do when pvp is around. The mob you are engaged with is absolute free game for anyone to do whatever the fuck they want with.


Being in a PVE fight is not some bluebie ass safe zone for your blubbering vagina to call hacks on when you get your ass kicked for pulling around PKs.



I'm glad you aren't a staff member this time around, because you are a retarded motherfucker.

[Envious]

Better to find an imp in Sol B that hits for max (144 or 148, cant remember), giving it 2x gnoll lariats, MR, Symbol, Reso, Shm stat buffs, regen, and haste, then gate.

Works really well with guk wizards too.

[Envious]

Searyx, you are a stupid fuck.

grabbing un-agroed mobs onto someone is training.

Engaging a mob is something you need to not do when pvp is around. The mob you are engaged with is absolute free game for anyone to do whatever the fuck they want with.


Being in a PVE fight is not some bluebie ass safe zone for your blubbering vagina to call hacks on when you get your ass kicked for pulling around PKs.



I'm glad you aren't a staff member this time around, because you are a retarded motherfucker.

Action that is in detriment of the server.
L2interpret posts.

[Envious]

Anyway... on a note that matters...

Line for the Alabama / LSU rematch is zero...
Over / under at 39...

I wanna take Alabama + the under... but I'm not sure.

[Envious]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74TFS8r_SMI

[gloinz]

Anyway... on a note that matters...

Line for the Alabama / LSU rematch is zero...
Over / under at 39...

I wanna take Alabama + the under... but I'm not sure.

def under

[Authority]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74TFS8r_SMI

Mac Miller is the fucking truth.

[Slave]

Anyone talking about a sport that is not MMA in this thread can go fuck themselves.

Remove play nice policies and No Drop mechanic, and add item loot = biggest server on EQEmu.

[Lazortag]

Searyx, you are a stupid fuck.

grabbing un-agroed mobs onto someone is training.
...

Fearing a mob around other kos mobs would result in "grabbing un-aggroed mobs onto someone".

[Salty]

Fearing a mob around other kos mobs would result in "grabbing un-aggroed mobs onto someone".

You are not attacking an un-aggroed mob.

You are attacking an aggroed mob.


That is the difference, bro.

[rangers_suck]

why is the pet owner not responsible for keeping track of their pet? pet gets feared use /pet get lost...or hell...gate. you know whats going to happen next. a lack of a reaction to the situation...whether by downs or being totally blitzed bros...is *drumroll* YOUR fault

paid for by w/g/r con system for 2012. dont be a coward, take a chance.

[Nirgon]

Searyx, you are a stupid fuck.

grabbing un-agroed mobs onto someone is training.

Engaging a mob is something you need to not do when pvp is around. The mob you are engaged with is absolute free game for anyone to do whatever the fuck they want with.


Being in a PVE fight is not some bluebie ass safe zone for your blubbering vagina to call hacks on when you get your ass kicked for pulling around PKs.



I'm glad you aren't a staff member this time around, because you are a retarded motherfucker.

Super mad

[pasi]

Fearing an engaged mob will obviously add you to the aggro list of said mob. The additional mobs that it aggro will also aggro you. There shouldn't be a difference in threat between either of the players on the additionally aggrod mob, unless either player uses beneficial spells on themselves. The only two classes that can wipe aggro without zoning themselves are SK and Necro (not counting Divine Aura as a wipe even if it aids in training or Shaman with sky ring and CT symbols). You can attack/shoot both of these targets to break FD so long as they are within 4 levels or in a FFA zone.

Most of the time, people would be better off just attacking you while engaged with a mob anyways. For the other times, carry some pumice to dispell the feared mob for as long as it takes to kill it, then go kill the person fearing it.

[Ssleeve]

Fearing an engaged mob will obviously add you to the aggro list of said mob. The additional mobs that it aggro will also aggro you. There shouldn't be a difference in threat between either of the players on the additionally aggrod mob, unless either player uses beneficial spells on themselves. The only two classes that can wipe aggro without zoning themselves are SK and Necro (not counting Divine Aura as a wipe even if it aids in training or Shaman with sky ring and CT symbols). You can attack/shoot both of these targets to break FD so long as they are within 4 levels or in a FFA zone.

Most of the time, people would be better off just attacking you while engaged with a mob anyways. For the other times, carry some pumice to dispell the feared mob for as long as it takes to kill it, then go kill the person fearing it.

You're thinking too much, just macro /petition.

[Rogean]

It's funny how you guys take a single justified disciplinary action and somehow turn it into a precedent for a wide range of assumptions. Just shut up about it. The staff here aren't stupid, we can tell the difference between what is intentionally malicious and what isn't. Don't act like a douchebag and you won't be suspended. Simple as that.