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edt
12-04-2011, 02:18 PM
I tried the pvp server for a bit and remembered why eq classic is the worst pvp ever. I was level 2, and some twink kept killing me over and over. what's the purpose? also, I played some pvp on Ralos Zek, and I'm not sure how it was in the beginning, but noobs could level to 6 safely, and at some point they made it safe up until 9. Also you could loot the entire corpse, but now it's only coin. It the server is not going to be classic, then why not try to make it really good? The rules should be changed to get rid of the assholes that just hassle noobs for no reason if you want new people to play and stick with it. Else just watch the server population fizzle, or stick with the same peeps.

Muaar
12-04-2011, 02:20 PM
haha i knew you would make a thread

nektulos?

Zalaerian
12-04-2011, 02:31 PM
If being griefed on a lvl 1 bother you then your better off just stopping now then avoiding possible suicide when your exp killed at 20+.

Truth
12-04-2011, 02:33 PM
lol'd next time just /shout halp pk

Muaar
12-04-2011, 03:45 PM
server ruined i died in everquest

loopholbrook
12-04-2011, 03:47 PM
0/10

Lovely
12-04-2011, 03:51 PM
I tried the pvp server for a bit and remembered why eq classic is the worst pvp ever. I was level 2, and some twink kept killing me over and over. what's the purpose? also, I played some pvp on Ralos Zek, and I'm not sure how it was in the beginning, but noobs could level to 6 safely, and at some point they made it safe up until 9. Also you could loot the entire corpse, but now it's only coin. It the server is not going to be classic, then why not try to make it really good? The rules should be changed to get rid of the assholes that just hassle noobs for no reason if you want new people to play and stick with it. Else just watch the server population fizzle, or stick with the same peeps.

Try Skyrim or other single player games my friend. Multiplayer 2 hard 4 u

Glitch
12-04-2011, 04:17 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VkOJv.gif

love it

Diggles
12-04-2011, 04:21 PM
god you make me look like a pvp champ i didnt rage quit until a death at level 5

Knuckle
12-04-2011, 04:55 PM
I tried the pvp server for a bit and remembered why eq classic is the worst pvp ever. I was level 2, and some twink kept killing me over and over. what's the purpose? also, I played some pvp on Ralos Zek, and I'm not sure how it was in the beginning, but noobs could level to 6 safely, and at some point they made it safe up until 9. Also you could loot the entire corpse, but now it's only coin. It the server is not going to be classic, then why not try to make it really good? The rules should be changed to get rid of the assholes that just hassle noobs for no reason if you want new people to play and stick with it. Else just watch the server population fizzle, or stick with the same peeps.

these rage induced threads are the point. bring joy to our cold black hearts

Doodle
12-04-2011, 04:57 PM
I tried the pvp server for a bit and remembered why eq classic is the worst pvp ever. I was level 2, and some twink kept killing me over and over. what's the purpose? also, I played some pvp on Ralos Zek, and I'm not sure how it was in the beginning, but noobs could level to 6 safely, and at some point they made it safe up until 9. Also you could loot the entire corpse, but now it's only coin. It the server is not going to be classic, then why not try to make it really good? The rules should be changed to get rid of the assholes that just hassle noobs for no reason if you want new people to play and stick with it. Else just watch the server population fizzle, or stick with the same peeps.

You know what, I don't think I agree with you at all.

Assholes are mandatory for any game. If it wasn't for them and the pain and agony and broken keyboards they cause me, it would be a lot more lame.

People tend to forget the balance that needs to be in place to make these games worth while.

You need your elitists, your pricks, your newbies and your average joes.

Oh and your stoners.

SearyxTZ
12-04-2011, 05:14 PM
I tried the pvp server for a bit and remembered why eq classic is the worst pvp ever. I was level 2, and some twink kept killing me over and over. what's the purpose? also, I played some pvp on Ralos Zek, and I'm not sure how it was in the beginning, but noobs could level to 6 safely, and at some point they made it safe up until 9. Also you could loot the entire corpse, but now it's only coin. It the server is not going to be classic, then why not try to make it really good? The rules should be changed to get rid of the assholes that just hassle noobs for no reason if you want new people to play and stick with it. Else just watch the server population fizzle, or stick with the same peeps.

You're mad you died to someone higher level.... and you want item loot?

EQ's PvP dynamic of controlling zones/spawns is fairly unique, which is what makes it great. If it's too hardcore for you then go play WoW or any number of WoW clones where you fight over nothing and there's 0 risk.

MethodSZ
12-04-2011, 05:36 PM
EQ's PvP dynamic of controlling zones/spawns is fairly unique, which is what makes it great. If it's too hardcore for you then go play WoW or any number of WoW clones where you fight over nothing and there's 0 risk.

Seriously will we ever see this in another MMORPG any time soon?

Is GW2 doing anything similar?

Knuckle
12-04-2011, 05:54 PM
Seriously will we ever see this in another MMORPG any time soon?

Is GW2 doing anything similar?

darkfall tried and fucking failed hardcore because they released the game with an incomplete world and virtually no spell system

Taluvill
12-04-2011, 10:25 PM
darkfall tried and fucking failed hardcore because they released the game with an incomplete world and virtually no spell system

Darkfall was bad fucking ass though.

Edit: If that game released complete, and without a broken spell system...... omg

Truth
12-04-2011, 10:30 PM
if you like clunky pieces of shit

Nirgon
12-04-2011, 10:45 PM
RIP XxLegolasxx or whoever you were

Shaakglith12194
12-05-2011, 03:37 AM
Ummm, EQ's pvp was kickass and still is on this server. It's the risk of losing something if somebody kills you; the joy of knowing what you did to the other person if you kill them. Only other game I've played that even had anything close to that was Darkfall, and in that game you were forced to either join a guild and get on vent, or tradeskill for ridiculous amounts of time. Screw that, EQ rocks. You can solo and still be kind of badass without ridiculous tradeskills.

Oh, and they removed that whole loot the entire corpse thing REALLY early on with Rallos Zek...someone who killed you could always loot one item so long as it was not NO DROP, but very early on if you did /consent to someone, they could loot your gear, presumably so they could give it to you without you having to grab it yourself. That got taken out REAL quick.

Giopawa
12-05-2011, 03:46 AM
Because the worst PvP can be the best PvP.

Diggles
12-05-2011, 05:15 AM
using that logic WoW is the best pvp game ever

gnomishfirework
12-05-2011, 06:15 AM
using that logic WoW is the best pvp game ever

It is. It's the most popular non-korean MMO ever.

Whatever your personal opinion is, it's still a league of its own. Subscription numbers don't lie.

pickled_heretic
12-05-2011, 11:43 AM
the arena based pvp model is pretty popular. people like fair fights, who would have guessed?

a lot of people hate on the battleground/scenario/instance pvp, i think it's awesome. i leveled almost exclusively in scenarios from 1 to 35 in warhammer online. i still have fond memories of punting dwarves into the lava in tor anroc on my black orc.

i also played on an open pvp server, there was ganking that happened to but it was never that big of a deal. i mainly played on an open pvp server because i thought it was lame that you could stand on the edge of a pvp lake and line dance for protection.

mourning
12-05-2011, 12:38 PM
y u mad tho?

pickled_heretic
12-05-2011, 12:48 PM
y u mad tho?

because warhammer had no endgame

Albane
12-05-2011, 12:49 PM
Most of the forum community is full of griefers who have pathetic lifes and this game is their revenge. There are plenty of people actually playing the game, who do not post on the forums and are against griefing.

Wait until this server is 2-3 months old, and the griefers have been driven away by the skilled players who care about their reputation and enjoy a fair fight. On any new server, you have a ton of people who think they can grief all the way to 50 and still enjoy their character. They will all be forced to re-roll or hide, as more and more people reach level 50.

I do agree with you about the newbie areas. They should make them PvP free until level 6. At level 6 you should be out of these zones or at least have a few abilities to allow you to fight back/survive against someone 4 levels higher than you. I want this server to grow, not shrink, and this childish mindset that is going to push away a good chunk of people who enjoy PvP, but do not enjoy griefing.

For those people who post things like "qq moar", etc, you know nothing about PvP and have little to no skill. If you are still around in a couple months when you can no longer grief people and you are forced to make friends to continue playing, I will be very surprised.

SearyxTZ
12-05-2011, 01:02 PM
It is. It's the most popular non-korean MMO ever.

Whatever your personal opinion is, it's still a league of its own. Subscription numbers don't lie.


Nobody is talking about "most successful". If that were the case, then let's go ahead and sing the praises of FarmVille and The Sims while we're at it.

I still think EQ PvP is light years ahead of WoW for the simple reason that they didn't separate out the PvP into an instanced minigame. You can actually fight over the game's content. What a concept. 8]

Muaar
12-05-2011, 01:05 PM
wow is an mmo for people who dont like any consequence in their gaming. WoW like milk chocolate compared to EQ which is semi-sweet, or in some cases, 98% CACAO


CACAO!

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSk-z2FI6g0dLSuZJvMGZErMJ17pIWYkRGdN-svpWb_SIfRQHGh

Lovely Icecomet
12-05-2011, 01:06 PM
http://www.jinx.com/content/prod/1189p_0c_2b.jpg

Nirgon
12-05-2011, 01:07 PM
http://www.jinx.com/content/prod/1189p_0c_2b.jpg

You going to Disney bro?

Slave
12-05-2011, 01:48 PM
http://www.jinx.com/content/prod/1189p_0c_2b.jpg

Looks like something my brother-in-law would draw. Etch, whatever. Totally awesome. Uber compliments to the artist.

valithteezee
12-05-2011, 01:49 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ee57mf-HVNA/TTT1by0UC_I/AAAAAAAAAQg/Rm-vZLzC-zk/s1600/Bob-Ross.jpg

Slave
12-05-2011, 02:08 PM
Always make your mountains happy mountains.

SearyxTZ
12-05-2011, 04:51 PM
Always make your mountains happy mountains.

Nuggie
12-05-2011, 05:46 PM
I tried the pvp server for a bit and remembered why eq classic is the worst pvp ever. I was level 2, and some twink kept killing me over and over. what's the purpose? also, I played some pvp on Ralos Zek, and I'm not sure how it was in the beginning, but noobs could level to 6 safely, and at some point they made it safe up until 9. Also you could loot the entire corpse, but now it's only coin. It the server is not going to be classic, then why not try to make it really good? The rules should be changed to get rid of the assholes that just hassle noobs for no reason if you want new people to play and stick with it. Else just watch the server population fizzle, or stick with the same peeps.

Didn't read the rest of the posts. OP sounds like cry-baby.

Dexter
12-05-2011, 06:55 PM
and add some happy trees in there.

SearyxTZ
12-05-2011, 07:12 PM
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3558/bobross1cs.gif

Diggles
12-05-2011, 07:19 PM
red99 mountains are full of angst

Zapp Brannigan
12-06-2011, 10:43 AM
darkfall tried and fucking failed hardcore because they released the game with an incomplete world and virtually no spell system

dont quote facts about a game you obviously dont have a fucking clue about. EQpvp isnt even in the same building as DF.

EQpvp isnt the worst, but it was added after with no real balance, and anybody who played the first few days would tell you that.


Edit~ the only reason Aventurine is able to continuely shit all over their player base with lies and half-truths is the fact Darkfalls full loot pvpmmo non-instance world is hands down the best pvpmmo game so far.

/and I hate aventurine with a burning passion that keeps me warm at night.

Seiryu
12-08-2011, 02:28 PM
Yeah, I just started on the server and not even 2 bars into level 2 I'm getting ganked as well by the same guy over and over.

As annoying as it is, the people ganking need to realize that later on they'll need groups, and when they get to a group and get killed by the group rather than a group invite, they only have themselves to blame.

Just because it's PVP doesn't mean you *have* to gank people, but it gives you the right to. If you use it wisely, you'll come out ahead in PVP. Players that have friends to help in PVP > People who think they're badass solo ganking.

EQ PVP is really tough compared to other games and yeah, there really is no balance to it. If you have resist gear, melees rock, without it casters just tear it up. Though, Bards always reign supreme in PVP.