To be a Wizard Means This

[skorge]

Hi, I'm a Wizard. I have access to Kunark spells and quest items that are not suppose to be in-game. So what if I use them, the gms aren't doing anything about it.

Currently Staff of the Wheel (nice INT item) is obtainable and being used in-game as well as the Kunark spell Harvest. These two I know about.

Combined with exploiting wands, a certain Wizard was able to reach the level to access Harvest and quest for the Staff of the Wheel, allowing him to gain an unfair advantage over anyone else on the server.

Please fix this gms...make our server fair. I am by no means competition for the above wizard (I'm only 17 now myself) but it makes me mad that certain players are exploiting stuff that you missed.

[Combobreaker]

oh great, now every1s gonna make a wizard and get harvest/staff of O

[keto]

Beta feedback on these issues were all ignored, don't expect anything to be done retroactively.

[skorge]

Beta feedback on these issues were all ignored, don't expect anything to be done retroactively.

Why are these issues ignored?

[MethodSZ]

Why are these issues ignored?

GM favoritism, just like any other emu server.

[Truth]

here we go

[Brinkman]

Beta feedback on these issues were all ignored, don't expect anything to be done retroactively.

They may have been busy, who knows. I do expect harvest to be removed however, Its a Kunark era spell, and not even start of kunark, it was added like 2 months after kunark release.


Those who srcribed it needs to have it removed as well.

[purest]

staff continuing to neglect these issues will inevitably lead to yet another failed box

[Lovely Icecomet]

WORKING AS INTENDED BROS QQ TRAIN --> that way R/F

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[Brinkman]

WORKING AS INTENDED BROS QQ TRAIN --> that way R/F

http://i.imgur.com/KehjT.jpg


Show us proof that the devs intended for wizards to have the Kunark era spell harvest please.

The staff/ice comet quest I can see being in, as it was that way on blue at release ( even tho I beleive that was an error) But no way they intended Harvest to be in, sorry.

And any wizard using the spell, knowingly, is very similar to abusing a new pathing bug, which should be suspendable at the very least.

[Doors]

Working as intended.

[Darwoth]

sure would be nice if i had some of my spells that were added later (calefaction for example) dont know why things like this have been ignored since beta.

[Lovely Icecomet]

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[Bazooka]

Show us proof that the devs intended for wizards to have the Kunark era spell harvest please.

The staff/ice comet quest I can see being in, as it was that way on blue at release ( even tho I beleive that was an error) But no way they intended Harvest to be in, sorry.

And any wizard using the spell, knowingly, is very similar to abusing a new pathing bug, which should be suspendable at the very least.

You got trolled bro.

[Brinkman]

Thanks for helping to keep this post at the top.

[Tombom]

ocean of tears

[Brinkman]

You got trolled bro.

/gasp

[Lovely Icecomet]

PWNED HARD SO HARD ITS INTENDED

[Doors]

VZTZ crew crying so hard in just 3 weeks time.

http://bubhub.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/crybaby2.jpg

[Lovely]

Man I didn't know I'd bring this much tears LOLOLOL

I'm a GM favorite sorry guys, this is all intended so I can destroy everyone and be the MASTEROFTHEPVPZ!! :D:D:D


The most hilarious thing is that Wizards are completely underpowered and awful at leveling compared to some other classes. The 2nd highest Wizard on the server is only level 28.. Pretty much says it all.

I'm just 2 guud for you guys. You guys don't have them BIG PLAYS~ :cool:

[Lovely]

PLEASE NERF WIZARDS DEVELOPERS!

I want to be nerfed to get a bit of a challenge. It's so hilarious that people think I give a flying fuck. Ill destroy you no matter what, I'd beat you with level 1 bolts and staff.

PS: I had no fkin clue Harvest was a Kunark spell. First time playing Wizzy on beta, you're lucky I'm not a stronger class cuz then the QQ would never stop.

[socialist]

No man, what are you gonna do without that unclassic stein replica or your 10sec self stun?

[Darwoth]

if i had harvest i would level a shitload faster and be able to kill named/boss mobs earlier than i previously could.

[socialist]

Harvest equals roughly 1.5-2 flowing thought (if you use it exactly on cooldown). It helps, but let's not kid ourselves and call the server broken because of it. I'm sure it'll be gone in the first major patch. None of us ever lost at PvP because of harvest, and it gives you one extra nuke every ten minutes to level oh so much faster with.

[Tumdumm]

I want to be nerfed to get a bit of a challenge. It's so hilarious that people think I give a flying fuck. Ill destroy you no matter what, I'd beat you with level 1 bolts and staff.

[Darwoth]

dont think anyone is screaming broken, however if i can do one quad every 10ish minutes and spend the last part of it med kiting harvest would speed my levelling up by a good 30% as it would eliminate the need to med kite and would be ready to use again each pull.

[Doors]

Harvest is on a retarded cooldown bro. It's not constantly up and spammable for free mana at all times.

[EverquestJunkie]

I must say if your QQ so much over a 10min cooldown spell that gives u a whole whoopin 1 blue of mana? you really need to L2P

[Lovely]

Well I don't need to med kite, I got 1900 mana. I rape anything rly fast and then I chillax. So it doesn't rly make a difference for me

[Lovely Icecomet]

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[Nirgon]

The 2nd highest Wizard on the server is only level 28..


Cuz he didn't exploit wands.

[Lovely Icecomet]

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[Lovely]

Cuz he didn't exploit wands.

According to these forums I MQ, haxx, cheat, exploit, abuse kunark quests, grief people and abuse everything I can. So ill just go with it. BUT...

Wut ye gonna do about it?!?!? U MAD???

[SearyxTZ]

What is this wand exploit people are talking about?


I don't think Harvest being in-game is a big deal though. Certainly doesn't affect PvP.

[Lovely]

Testing my new signature sorry

[Castle]

Can u still exploit these bad boys?

[Ssleeve]

Can u still exploit these bad boys?

Nope all the good exploits were nerfed after a handful of people got an enormous jump on the rest of us, making the gap that much bigger.

[socialist]

dont think anyone is screaming broken, however if i can do one quad every 10ish minutes and spend the last part of it med kiting harvest would speed my levelling up by a good 30% as it would eliminate the need to med kite and would be ready to use again each pull.

You pretty much can't use harvest during any kind of fight. It has a 10 sec cast time and stuns you for an additional 10 sec, so I doubt you'd wanna CC yourself for 20 seconds straight while quadding. It gives like 225 mana at level 50, minus the med ticks you miss while casting it. Also has a 10 minute cooldown, so the benefits are minor.

What is this wand exploit people are talking about?

Apparently the drop rate on conflag wands was too high. That's the "exploit." The method of using them to level fast is completely legit, it's just that it would have been unlikely for someone to get wands quickly with the classic rarity.

[fiegi]

benefits are minor lullz..........when you can harvest back 20% of your mana pool and start killing more shit that much quicker, where can I sign up for that?

[socialist]

20% maybe if you're a naked ogre wizard.

Harvest gives less net mana over time than breeze, and comes with the added risk of CCing yourself for 20 seconds. Pretty fucking minor.

lullz

[fiegi]

Your argument is that harvest gives less mana over time then another non-classic spell(breeze) - brilliant.

There is no debate here. Having harvest is a huge advantage in classic everquest

[Lovely]

You mad?

[socialist]

Your argument is that harvest gives less mana over time then another non-classic spell(breeze) - brilliant.

There is no debate here. Having harvest is a huge advantage in classic everquest

The argument, obviously, is that the spell is less effective than a level 16 mana regen buff.

Huge advantage? Nah. The only thing there's no debate about is whether or not it should be removed, because it should. I just find it hilarious how people point to harvest as their excuse for losing.

[Lovely]

If it wasn't for harvest I'd be stuck at level 10 with Holocaust griefing me

But in all honestly if I played a Mage, Necro, Druid or Bard I'd be 50 long ago my friends.

[fiegi]

The argument, obviously, is that the spell is less effective than a level 16 mana regen buff.

Huge advantage? Nah. The only thing there's no debate about is whether or not it should be removed, because it should. I just find it hilarious how people point to harvest as their excuse for losing.

We can sit here and weigh how much harvest helps - however ultimately it comes down to playtime and how efficient you were with that playtime. I agree with you tho anyone using it as an excuse for losing either in pvp or that mindless idea of racing to 50 is just a pathetic schmuck.

[Brinkman]

You pretty much can't use harvest during any kind of fight. It has a 10 sec cast time and stuns you for an additional 10 sec, so I doubt you'd wanna CC yourself for 20 seconds straight while quadding. It gives like 225 mana at level 50, minus the med ticks you miss while casting it. Also has a 10 minute cooldown, so the benefits are minor.



Apparently the drop rate on conflag wands was too high. That's the "exploit." The method of using them to level fast is completely legit, it's just that it would have been unlikely for someone to get wands quickly with the classic rarity.

Harvest is not game breaking no, but it basically helps a wizard EXP 15% faster.

While quad kiteing your dumping nearly your whole mana bar on a mobs, Then you go to safe place to med up for your next quad. Whe you get to your safe spot to med, you have no worries about the stun component. And gain 15% of the mana needed to quad again.. which means 15% less time waiting on mana.

Its basically 1 free yellow bubble of exp for every 4 yellow bubs you truely earned. Since you couldnt quad as much/fast without this spell.

To say its negligable/minor is not true.

[Jadian]

I would laugh so hard if everyone that's using the "u mad im awesome it was in the game so its ok to use" excuse for all the exploiting just got banned without another word in the first big patch.

[Boner Doner]

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[Taluvill]

Well, I can go to NK and buy the combine ports. Its just like the gm's didn't turn everything back to classic.

Im kind of a bit surprised they didn't keep a server save of right before they implemented Kunark.

[Nirgon]

If it wasn't for harvest I'd be stuck at level 10 with Holocaust griefing me

But in all honestly if I played a Mage, Necro, Druid or Bard I'd be 50 long ago my friends.

And if the wands had been addressed before launch you'd be lvl 40 instead of 45.

[morphem]

Harvest is not game breaking no, but it basically helps a wizard EXP 15% faster.

While quad kiteing your dumping nearly your whole mana bar on a mobs, Then you go to safe place to med up for your next quad. Whe you get to your safe spot to med, you have no worries about the stun component. And gain 15% of the mana needed to quad again.. which means 15% less time waiting on mana.

Its basically 1 free yellow bubble of exp for every 4 yellow bubs you truely earned. Since you couldnt quad as much/fast without this spell.

To say its negligable/minor is not true.

Just pnuts compare to the xp rate of a Mage, Necro, Druid or mostly Bard
lovely's right, get real

[Lovely Icecomet]

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[Kornaki]

Harvest is not game breaking no, but it basically helps a wizard EXP 15% faster.

I'm intrigued. Go on..

While quad kiteing your dumping nearly your whole mana bar on a mobs, Then you go to safe place to med up for your next quad. Whe you get to your safe spot to med, you have no worries about the stun component. And gain 15% of the mana needed to quad again.. which means 15% less time waiting on mana.

This would correspond to 15% faster experience if it didn't actually take any time to kill mobs. But since you're popping harvest every time you med, it looks like it actually takes 10 minutes to kill the mobs which doesn't seem insignificant to me,


Its basically 1 free yellow bubble of exp for every 4 yellow bubs you truely earned. Since you couldnt quad as much/fast without this spell.

That would be 25% faster anyway, so.... yeah....

[Awwalike]

Well, I can go to NK and buy the combine ports. Its just like the gm's didn't turn everything back to classic.

Im kind of a bit surprised they didn't keep a server save of right before they implemented Kunark.

port there and pick up some shit bro!! would be like the IB warrior sky belt from blue

[Galacticus]

port there and pick up some shit bro!! would be like the IB warrior sky belt from blue

[Smedy]

thread necromancy should be a bannable offense unless it's a good thread bro fuk

[Labanen]

thread necromancy should be a bannable offense unless it's a good thread bro fuk

^^

[Galacticus]

hey you guys remember galacticus?

he came here and was a nice guy / had a great attitude

he started posting nirgon threads about change and resists and stuff

after 3 months of being ignored he has joined the ranks of mads and bads.

RIP GALACTICUS

I know now why you cry, but it is something I can never do.

IF U CANT BEAT EM JOIN EM RIGHT BANNED TOMATO