If you know this guy help him LOL

[Producer]

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< someone trained > unrest well he was level 35 about (40 minutes) ago

[Lawler]

A+ work to whoever got this going.

[Jerrin]

Karma is a bitch.

[Producer]

If GM's do any kind of reimbursement thats bull shit jussayin

[Envious]

A+ work to whoever got this going.

[Skyllus]

If GM's do any kind of reimbursement thats bull shit jussayin

yea it will be bullshit, cause thats his fuck up. no 1 elses

[Producer]

http://i41.tinypic.com/33xe8o9.jpg

Saves the day ... :(

[Lovely]

GM better not do shit about this. If you AFK instead of camping its your own fault.

[Producer]

GM better not do shit about this. If you AFK instead of camping its your own fault.

Yup,

btw lovely my surname was Icecomet as well on live , nice find ha.

[Darwoth]

pretty dumb to not log off your char, even more dumb to bind at the zoneline and not log off your char.

[Producer]

pretty dumb to not log off your char, even more dumb to bind at the zoneline and not log off your char.

http://12weeksto40.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/sleep-when-you-have-nothing-more-important-to-do-demotivational-poster.jpg

[Giopawa]

Even if it's your own fault, accidents happen. I mean to be reset several levels at that stage of the game, it's not cool. So don't try to argue it as a " troll " point of view. If it were you, we would still say you should get the rezzes. That's a HUGE hit.

[Producer]

Im not a moron to go AFK @ a zone ________

It's his fault he pays for it ... go check LIVE rallos zek and /petition hey uhh a mob killed me a shit load because I bound there.

That don't fly

PS: You don't sound like true flower

[VanEyck]

Isn't Fallen in Holocaust?

[Skyllus]

Isn't Fallen in Holocaust?

Yes

[loopholbrook]

Reimburse the dude his two levels. When you go to the government and say that you accidentally burned down your house they give you a new one so let this cat get his levels back.

[Skyllus]

Definately shouldnt get his levels back, he fucked up its his fault. True shit, if this happened on live, they wouldnt give a damn. Its his fault, nobody elses.

[Producer]

http://i39.tinypic.com/2d19q9x.jpg

[Smedy]

That's a holocaust recruit, quality player obviously since going afk on a pvp server WITH exp death isn't retarded.

[Smedy]

If i see any GM's interfering with this nature of the game i will bring down the wrath of jesus upon thee, sinners must be punished!

The world of norrath is punishing fallen for being a sinner

[Skyllus]

Praise Smedy Jesus!

[georgie]

they should that'd be bullshit not to what if he thought he hit camp and went to work . you guys think selfishly but if that was you, you would want it. and don't bother saying you wouldn't cuz you'd be lieing

[Darwoth]

if you think you should get everything you want in spite of your own shitty decisions go occupy wall street.

[socialist]

GMs kinda did help people with this shit on live. Even on Sullon Zek, I remember a few people getting restored after people bind-camped them down twenty levels when they fell asleep at their keyboards and stuff. I'm not gonna lie, I'll chuckle if this guy doesn't get his levels back, but it's not true that live GMs didn't reimburse. Hilarious either way.

[Darwoth]

pino, that dark elf cleric, the entire ruin + hate guilds (skyshrine) and countless others would disagree with your fictional recounting of sullon zek.

[socialist]

I remember two instances where GMs reimbursed people who got bind-camped down a bunch of levels due to falling asleep and shit. Probably depends on the whims of the individual GM.

[Cymbal]

to all you haters yes this has happened be4, and the GMs have helped people before

the dude was trained ( thanks darwoth )

this will happen again, so put yourself in their shoes

give him the exp back

[Darwoth]

why is it always my fault? did i cause the last few hurricanes and tornados as well?

[Cymbal]

got whitness's and logs bro.

i still actually dont hate u, amazing as that sounds

I'm prolly the only person that takes this game for what it is, a game.

[Darwoth]

if i happened to be passin through looking for ol bilge that does not mean much, and if dwigus was angry with me for seeking out his brother bilge and i did not care to waste mana killing him it is hardly my fault that a retard bound himself at the unrest zone where folks naturally go to lose aggro and if i was pvping against a holocaust mage nearby thats just.... well plain ol pvp.


blame it on the rain asswipe.

[Cymbal]

actually how it went down is ur were there first, and he showed up to help. SO

like i said its cool bro , i hope u dont even get suspended, i want people playing this server

but character should get exp back

[Darwoth]

rob was already in unrest, prob still there xping

[Skyllus]

Nah see, he only lost 2 levels, and it wasnt cause he was bind camped by someone, it was his own fault to afk there, the gms shouldnt reimburse honestly, then they'd have to reimburse for every little thing, u know if u get pked, oh reimburse me, he gets bind camped a couple times then they leave, oh reimburse me, be a man about it and take the exp hit for being a dipshit, dont whine about it, shit happens man its Everquest. Games already getting easy as is, then GM's reimburse everytime someone does sumthn stupid? i mean lagging out cause server is lagging and reimbursing people who died is 1 thing, but reimbursing for ur own stupid mistake, thats gm favoritism, and not cool whatsoever.

[Jotok]

This is just a reflection of the poor leadership in Holocaust. Having your guildmate bind outside a zone line where people run into all the time while being attack from those damn aqua goblins? Poor Leadership.

BTW, wasn't this the jackass that trained upper guk when holocaust got booted out first week of the server? What goes around comes around.

[Cymbal]

dude it was 1 accidental train and completely unrelated to anything.

I was not even guilded at the time.

this is excessive deaths at bind point.

the 2 do not compare

[Skyllus]

Excessive deaths at bindpoint is the price he pays for staying logged on because he thinks hes hot shit cause hes a high level in holocaust, so he thought he was safe, thats all it was. Well look where it got him, its whatever, even if he doestn get reimbursed, he'll get it back in a day, so no need to trip.

[Melveny]

Lol a players bind point of there own choosing reflects guild leadership... Yes let's use that as an example and not the 12 v 15 fight, us loseing 4 and you loosing 9. The fact your entire guild focusing a warrior lol, leadership at it's finest.

That logic.... It's a crazy thing you know.

[Cymbal]

Not true bro, im the humblest of peoples u will find

Leave the guild out of it i mean, i am brand new recruit.

yes it was my fault for leaving the char on, part blame due to my medical condition

accidents happen i just think this punishment is too steep.

[gloinz]

if you think you should get everything you want in spite of your own shitty decisions go occupy wall street.

hoho +1 to this gem

[gloinz]

Not true bro, im the humblest of peoples u will find

Leave the guild out of it i mean, i am brand new recruit.

yes it was my fault for leaving the char on, part blame due to my medical condition

accidents happen i just think this punishment is too steep.

learn to play

if anything is done to change this fellow's xp this server should b renamed purple 99 and confirmed gm favoritism

[Tumdumm]

bah da bah bah baaahhhh im lovin it

[Skyllus]

Lol a players bind point of there own choosing reflects guild leadership... Yes let's use that as an example and not the 12 v 15 fight, us loseing 4 and you loosing 9. The fact your entire guild focusing a warrior lol, leadership at it's finest.

That logic.... It's a crazy thing you know.

To bad, all u guys had out of range healers, and our leader wasnt even there, so u win 1 fight good job, we've won every single other fight against u guys, driving u guys out of unrest/hhk and mistmoore multiple times. TBH :D

[Skyllus]

Not true bro, im the humblest of peoples u will find

Leave the guild out of it i mean, i am brand new recruit.

yes it was my fault for leaving the char on, part blame due to my medical condition

accidents happen i just think this punishment is too steep.

Look at you tryin to bullshit lol.

[Smedy]

my medical condition has kept me from having lvl 35 right now so can i has?

[skorge]

does this make me immune from exp penalty deaths when i go afk to take a shit? it doesnt feel the same hitting /camp and waiting a few seconds to make sure my character gets out safely...

[Cymbal]

i mean its ok guys . prolly no excuses so what ever happens, happens.

i just wish these forums didnt exist heh

[Skyllus]

i mean its ok guys . prolly no excuses so what ever happens, happens.

i just wish these forums didnt exist heh

lol i like how ur tryin to act like a victim here, when ur an asshole to everyone ingame, stop frontin dude.

[Melveny]

To bad, all u guys had out of range healers, and our leader wasnt even there, so u win 1 fight good job, we've won every single other fight against u guys, driving u guys out of unrest/hhk and mistmoore multiple times. TBH :D

If by healer you mean the 2 complete heals done by 2 paladin lay hands, both of which were in range. Or are you suggesting light healing from a lvl 12 was what changed that fight? Of our 4 that died, this Out of range healer also died while being out of range ....

Your leader should not have to be present to tell you not to focus a warrior over any other class. Your dumping all your mana into a warrior who was not complete healed just once, but twice and you still kept focussing him lol.

I know your leaders and they are very capable players. I'm sure they don't approve of you guys focussing a warrior I mass pvp.

[Vile]

no more pro tips

[Cymbal]

lol i like how ur tryin to act like a victim here, when ur an asshole to everyone ingame, stop frontin dude.

when was i an asshole to u honestly

[Tombom]

One day while a daughter was home from college she got in an argument with her father,
"Dad how can you be a red player? It is so cruel and mean and the grief is not right"
"Well look at it this way darling, how are your grades in school?"
"They are great, because I work my ass off and no life and have a neck beard"
"So how about becky's?"
"She is lagging way behind the lvl curve dad, she is a total slut and parties instead of grouping in CB everynight"
"Okay so how about we give becky some of your lvls and loots and everything will be fair!"
"NO DAD NOT MY PIXELS WHAT THE FUK"
the father leaned over and smirked...

"Welcome to red99"

[Mardur]

GMs, I need about 5 extra levels from the 80 intentional trains I endured while leveling up. Sorry I didn't inform you earlier but I took it upon myself to kill the offenders instead of whining to GMs for hand out rezzes. Also for not being a dumbass binding myself and AFKing in a high trafficked dangerous area.

[tsaC]

darwoth trained the mob, intentionally causing someone exp deaths is a bannable offense

lets get those corpses GM revived and give Darwoth the correct suspension/ban based on his previous behavior on the server.

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[Tombom]

too large; didn't read

[Nirgon]

I think on Live they did give levels/xp back to people who had chain death issues. We had this happen to Glaa, one of our notorious chair-sleeper shamans.

And yes, the real question, how did Dwigus get there in the first place. I'm sure that can be looked into.

Happy holidays.

[Lazortag]

I don't really have an opinion on whether Fallen should get reimbursed, but I think it's super douchebaggy that no one helped him after seeing him get bind camped by a mob that was obviously trained there.

[Nirgon]

no one helped him.


I don't think that should be very surprising :P.

[Tombom]

I don't really have an opinion on whether Fallen should get reimbursed, but I think it's super douchebaggy that no one helped him after seeing him get bind camped by a mob that was obviously trained there.

I think the op said the mob was red con, can't do much there :(

[lethdar]

Bind camp is one thing, training a mob there is another. I've had the chance to train kos mobs on afk players at bind and obviously haven't (here's looking at you hughman). If someone did train the highest level mob in zone there on purpose (and i dont know how a lowby is going to survive training a sowed rape beast like dwig is) then it should be looked into and punished appropriately.

[Nirgon]

Eyes are watching how this issue is handled closely.

[Softcore PK]

Have a heart people, he should be reimbursed.

[Nirgon]

Regardless, things like this are logged and I trust appropriate action will be taken.

[lethdar]

If the mob really was intentionally trained and this is legal i'd like to know this. There's no point in us showing restraint in this aspect of the game if it is indeed sanctioned by GMs as a legal tactic.

[Lovely]

If the mob wasn't trained on purpose then he should not get reimbursed. It's his own fault and GM's should act accordingly.

Can't have people getting rezzes left and right cause they have a retarded bind spot and go afk on a pvp server

[tsaC]

If the mob wasn't trained on purpose then he should not get reimbursed. It's his own fault and GM's should act accordingly.

Can't have people getting rezzes left and right cause they have a retarded bind spot and go afk on a pvp server

fully agree.

unfortunate darwoth has to train on this server, please let us know if this has been made legal?/

[lethdar]

I'd say this situation is pretty cut and dry. Falling asleep at your bind is one thing, but training is another. From what I'm hearing darwoth not only trained dwigus onto his bind but ensnared it so that even while fallen was zoning it wouldn't be able to path away. I'm sure GMs are looking into this as this is a clear cut case of premeditated training (lol really, you ensnared it to stay on top of his bind) and is against really the only rule of the server.

[Jotok]

fully agree.

unfortunate darwoth has to train on this server, please let us know if this has been made legal?/

How about the time you pulled our gorge hound we were attacking, gathered up all the other gorge hounds, zoned and then we had to zone from a gorge hound train 8 mobs deep? And came back and tried to do it again for 2 hours straight?

Or the time you trained our misty thicket guard to Guard Bepo and then zoned?

Your Hypocrisy is only out shown by your retardedness, kid.

What comes around goes around.

[Pudge]

wow. GUYS SOMEONE LOST LEVELS BEING A TARD, SPAM THE FORUMS ASKING FOR EXP

GO GO GO

[lethdar]

Member of scary bad guys attempts to defend his guild leader's admitting of training, attempts to change topic of discussion

Fixed post to reflect reality.

[lethdar]

wow. GUYS SOMEONE LOST LEVELS BEING A TARD, SPAM THE FORUMS ASKING FOR EXP

GO GO GO

Pudge, banned for training on vztz, defends training on red99. SURPRISE.

[gloinz]

Member of holocaust attempts to defend his newb pal's dumbness of going afk on a pvp server

2 can play this game

[Jotok]

Fixed post to reflect reality.


What train?

[Amelinda]

Anyone have logs or ss's of someone training this mob? or logs or ss's of them talking about it /admitting to it???
<---------- PM Amelinda

Training is NOT OKAY on this server and if i catch you training you will probably eat a suspension.

[lethdar]

What train?

where darwoth not only trained dwigus onto someones bind with the intent to cause experience loss, but ensnared it so that it wouldn't have the time to run away between loading, clearly intending a death loop with his train.

[gloinz]

Anyone have logs or ss's of someone training this mob? or logs or ss's of them talking about it /admitting to it???
<---------- PM Amelinda

Training is NOT OKAY on this server and if i catch you training you will probably eat a suspension.

zoning agro in a zone where you get agro by running through it 9/10 times to some tard who binded at the zoneline isn't illegal

[Smedy]

knuckles irl condition is in a wheelchair hook that guy up with 10 levels right now

[Arillious]

I'd say this situation is pretty cut and dry. Falling asleep at your bind is one thing, but training is another. From what I'm hearing darwoth not only trained dwigus onto his bind but ensnared it so that even while fallen was zoning it wouldn't be able to path away. I'm sure GMs are looking into this as this is a clear cut case of premeditated training (lol really, you ensnared it to stay on top of his bind) and is against really the only rule of the server.

Sounds like you guys should be plotting some sort of revenge instead of crying to GM's. Your guild has the largest amount of high level players. This is the kind of drama this server needs.

[Nirgon]

Anyone have logs or ss's of someone training this mob? or logs or ss's of them talking about it /admitting to it???
<---------- PM Amelinda

Training is NOT OKAY on this server and if i catch you training you will probably eat a suspension.

Maybe I'm wrong but can you clarify if this is logged server side in any way? I'm fairly certain it can be determined on the blue server ie: when something was agro'd, by who, etc with time stamp.

[lethdar]

zoning agro in a zone where you get agro by running through it 9/10 times to some tard who binded at the zoneline isn't illegal

and what is your opinion on the legality of waiting for said mob to catch up, then rooting/snaring it next to someone's bind?

[Nirgon]

While I usually am in favor of Gloinz's opinion for a harsher pvp environment, I've also stated that the population needs to remain healthy for this to be enjoyable. Time to come off those SZ griefer roots a little and realize legalized training will certainly kill our last and greatest box.

[Skyllus]

If by healer you mean the 2 complete heals done by 2 paladin lay hands, both of which were in range. Or are you suggesting light healing from a lvl 12 was what changed that fight? Of our 4 that died, this Out of range healer also died while being out of range ....

Your leader should not have to be present to tell you not to focus a warrior over any other class. Your dumping all your mana into a warrior who was not complete healed just once, but twice and you still kept focussing him lol.

I know your leaders and they are very capable players. I'm sure they don't approve of you guys focussing a warrior I mass pvp.

i wasnt the one calling the shots i was told who to assist and i assisted them, end of story

[karsten]

i just



my brain is exploding due to people in holocaust complaining about dirty tricks

[Nirgon]

dirty tricks

Can you list the ones that are against server rules or warrant GM response?

[karsten]

While I usually am in favor of Gloinz's opinion for a harsher pvp environment, I've also stated that the population needs to remain healthy for this to be enjoyable. Time to come off those SZ griefer roots a little and realize legalized training will certainly kill our last and greatest box.

btw, trolls aside, nirgon's got a solid point here

[socialist]

From what I'm hearing darwoth not only trained dwigus onto his bind but ensnared it so that even while fallen was zoning it wouldn't be able to path away.

The bolded part makes it completely irrelevant. 96.4% of the shit spewed by players on this server is bullshit. "From what I'm hearing" is worthless until there's some proof.

I don't know darwoth or Fallen, I'm just being realistic.

[Nirgon]

As far as "from what I'm hearing"... so far it's come out that Darwoth did it and that's been deemed admissible.

And now "from what I'm hearing" he didn't come out and say it on this board. AKA he told someone, aka bragged about it or told someone what happened regarding his intentions otherwise and should be in the logs.

[lethdar]

I played a monk on sullon zek, i griefed, trained non stop for years. If this is what this server comes down to that's pretty fine with me. However something I value more than the momentary kicks of landing a big fat res box train is having a sustainable population for pvp to occur with.
However I'm under the impression that this server has one major rule, and that is that training is illegal. As such, our guild doesn't train on purpose, doesn't train mobs onto peoples binds, and doesn't seek out afk players in particular, find the highest lvl mob in zone, train it on top of their bind and ensnare it to ensure a death loop. If the rules have changed or this rule is no longer enforced then we'd like to know so we're not handicapping ourselves.

[karsten]

leth i'm 100% on the same page as you on that, but creating that atmosphere is going to have to come from somewhere. So, i mean, if that's something your entire guild is looking to cultivate, then i'll make sure all of my imaginary friends do as well. Knowing a number of box heroes, however, you'll have to forgive my pessimism on that point.

[Softcore PK]

I hope my macbook can run fraps without EQ getting all gross and slow.

[Mardur]

GMs, I'm still waiting on my free levels.

[Darwoth]

what a bunch of retards, i go take a nap and wake up to some big sherlock holmes mystery.

some dumbshit bound at a zoneline, which happens to be the deaggro point for every single person that enters said zone. a half dozen sub level 20s apparently hang out near said zoneline/mob/player for some undetermined amount of time after i leave and it is MY fault whatshisface ate xp deaths?

lol god holocaust gets more and more pathetic each day, lose in pvp waah waah someone must be cheating, someones else gains levels waah waah not fair, be an idiot and bind in the middle of kos mobs waah waah it is someone elses fault i need full restoration and by the way suspend one of the few players that is our competition. what a joke.

this sort of retardation is exactly why myself and anyone with two iq points to rub together stated all through beta there needs to be no rules on this server, so a bunch of crysatchels like this cant come on here pointing fingers every 2 days trying to get their competition shitcanned by staff since they cant do it themselves.

[Nirgon]

Sounds pretty obvious to me what happened here.

I'm not a rocket scientist and forgive me for arm chair GM'ing but if I saw the following:

1. Mob is pulled with only one spell cast by a druid.
2. Presuming in every other case in his xping pulls with a snare (and this may not be true) he pulls with a nuke.
3. Making no further actions takes the mob to a zoneline.
4. Snares mob before zoning.

I just might think to myself that this was done intentionally to train another player.

Darwoth if you didn't post this on the boards, how did everyone else find out you did it? Big braggin'?

[karsten]

what the balls is a "crysatchel"

[Smedy]

i luv how someone going afk + binding at a spot where mobs run by due to trains a lot is a GM issue, he dun goof'd and should suffer for his stupidity, end of discussion

[Albane]

GMs, I'm still waiting on my free levels.

Same here. I have been trained at least 12 times now, all ending in my death and loss of xp. Sure, i was the one who gathered the mobs into a pretty train, but it was the person who rooted me who actually caused me to die from the train.

Similar to someone dying because they are dumb enough to go afk next to a zone line, where they were bound. Who the hell binds that close to a zone line?

[Nirgon]

i luv how someone going afk + binding at a spot where mobs run by due to trains a lot is a GM issue, he dun goof'd and should suffer for his stupidity, end of discussion

That mob doesn't path to the unrest zone line. Morever, why wasn't it an undertow skeleton or something that more commonly agros and is less of a threat there? Pretty obvious bros.

[Darwoth]

pretty sure my name is dropped because i was chasing rob back and forth across a zoneline, i finally landed a root, he gated i went back to xping.

done with this thread, your all a bunch of morons.

[Nirgon]

Woulda been easier to just come out and say this first. Sounded pretty defensive earlier.

[karsten]

Same here. I have been trained at least 12 times now, all ending in my death and loss of xp. Sure, i was the one who gathered the mobs into a pretty train, but it was the person who rooted me who actually caused me to die from the train.

Similar to someone dying because they are dumb enough to go afk next to a zone line, where they were bound. Who the hell binds that close to a zone line?

say what you want if you're buttsore about fallen's situation, but this is way true

[juicedsixfo]

Are people seriously defending someone who went AFK

[Amuk]

Hopefully this happens more often and we grief everyone off the server !

[messiah_b]

Are people seriously defending someone who went AFK

Not really, but if you see a chance to get Dar banned you really gotta go for it.

[Amuk]

Most in holo laughen about it btw, they'll burn the mother fucker to the ground with ya Darwoth =)

[Nirgon]

It's not just because it's Darwoth :P. Further matters such as these I think should go into the petition forum and be left at that. I think it's great to voice publicly how crucial enforcement of the rule is when others are held in check by not doing the same given such opportunities. Lastly, I do have solid faith that it will be looked into and it could all just be a huge coincidence.

Given all the factors though, things just seem a little too convenient. I shouldn't have to spell it all out.

[Slave]

Amelinda in server chat on R99 last night: "I do not do exp rezzes unless we confirm via watching that training is taking place."

[Makestro]

Not really, but if you see a chance to get Dar banned you really gotta go for it.

Aww how cute, you can't beat the guy in the game so you need the GMs to beat him for you.

[Nirgon]

Suspended, not banned and he's already a confirmed dirty whistle.

[Darwoth]

Woulda been easier to just come out and say this first. Sounded pretty defensive earlier.

i did at some point, do not mistake annoyance for defensiveness.

[fiegi]

11 thread page wow, I'll just login and get the foot notes

on a side note..... I have yet to run into darwoth on this box, but he was an uber newb on RZ that was swinging off my nuts for literally 2 weeks straight for a guild chance - so i'm sure nothing has changed in the past 11 years.

[Darwoth]

11 thread page wow, I'll just login and get the foot notes

on a side note..... I have yet to run into darwoth on this box, but he was an uber newb on RZ that was swinging off my nuts for literally 2 weeks straight for a guild chance - so i'm sure nothing has changed in the past 11 years.

lol what guild is that exactly?

[fiegi]

lol what guild is that exactly?

Hidden Power

who woulda thought 11 years down the road Darwoth<Druids Empire> woulda finally accomplished some funnies in game.

round of applause

[Darwoth]

never expressed nor had any interest in joining that guild, pretty sure my sole involvement was laughing at adells naked pictures along with the rest of the server and shitting on reefman.

a pox upon you for trying to sully my good name.

[fiegi]

you seen naked pictures of that whale???

oh lord now you some how made me feel pity for you

a complete 180

[Darwoth]

druids empire was a newbie guild of 3 brothers and a few rl friends, then we all joined sof where i happily stayed until darkenbane. grasping pretty hard berating me for a guild i was in at approximately 17 years old rofl.

[fistses]

HP were bunch of noob ass bitches

as a side note, i was alt-tabbed looking at facebook this morning and left to go study for my final exams and a 15 minute drive later I was thinking did I log out? uhhh nope.. so I drove back home to log out.

thats what this person should have done

[karsten]

I was thinking did I log out? uhhh nope.. so I drove back home to log out.

thats what this person should have done

btw reefman is hilarious, don't rip on reefman

[juicedsixfo]

and shitting on reefman.


Riiight.

[fistses]

speaking of reefman i killed him 1v2.. him and his butt buddy daxx... rogue v. rogue+druid

terrible player

[Kringe]

btw reefman is hilarious, don't rip on reefman

Wrong Reefman, thats not the orginal one you are thinking of Karsten

[karsten]

Wrong Reefman, thats not the orginal one you are thinking of Karsten

oh man, shitfucks! thanks for the heads up big kringe

[fiegi]

fake reefman indeed

[Nizzarr]

Should totally give darwoth a 3 day break, he deserves it. ( I need to catch up to him anyway!)

I'm sure you can look at the logs for dwigus lowater, if you can see darwoth ensnaring it, you should totally give him the deserved break.

[Lovely]

Even if Darwoth snared and trained that mob to Unrest he did nothing wrong. He could have been in a fight, low on mana, whatever. People will train zone lines with mobs all the time. It's nothing wrong with that. I don't understand why anyone would defend someone who bind at a zone line and also fkin AFK at their bind.

If I did that then I'd deserve whatever came to me. I've gone afk several times at my bind this beta while medding up cause I'm greedy and if someone came and fucked me over then that would entirely be my own fault.

[karsten]

yeah that's the crux of this: darworth is a faggot for doing what he may or may not have done, but if you go afk while you're bound at the unrest/dc zoneline, you take your licks, learn from em, and go on your way.


Call for darworth eating a ban, forum pals, i'm with you, but trying to say fallen needs to be rewarded for something that dumb puts you in a position that is VERY hard to defend.

[fiegi]

If he snared the mob and deliberately left it at the zoneline then yea that's no different then a monk dropping 10 mobs on a group and wiping em

logs don't lie and instead of see'in him in game for 18 hours a day he can get some vitamin d and recharge those batteries for about 10 days.

[Atmas]

Binding at the Unrest zoneline isn't the brightest thing to do. But it's also hard to believe that mob wasn't intentionally trained. Highest level mob in the zone and the person manages to make it to zone with it close enough to agro someone standing there.

[Smedy]

Holocaust would totally support Masterkova getting all his exp back if he went afk and died to a mob 200 times

They are white knights

[Melveny]

For those just now tuneing in, the matters in questions are:

1) how can a sowed Druid not outrun a snared mob
2) where was the mob snared? Does the snare message display on fallen's logs? If he was close with snare there was intent.
3) how can a sowed Druid not out run a mob at normal speed? Many in game experiences of having a train and zoning before train has even reached zone line
4) seeing that dwig spawns no where near unrest, how does number 1 or 2 happen?

For those arguing the point of "omg he was afk online omg omg omg"
I agree don't leave your character online, but this does not disregard the intentional train.

[fistses]

intentionally training is illegal if witnessed by a GM.. i dont think they will check logs to determine intent

[Dfn]

As such, our guild doesn't train on purpose

Might want to double check your factsheet. Ask Illi about MT or EK or Fallen about Guk.

[Darwoth]

im sure the mob could not have possibly aggroed any of the half dozen level 20s standing around from the rival guild who took screenshots.

as i said bunch of retards, really am done annoying myself with the lamentations of the stupid this time.

edit: lol just realized fallen is the guy caught on video training the shit out of that group from last week. makes this whole ordeal even more ridiculous/hilarious.

[Truth]

edit: lol just realized fallen is the guy caught on video training the shit out of that group from last week. makes this whole ordeal even more ridiculous/hilarious.

[Dfn]

I'm willing to bet that it was Fallen's own guildmates that trained him. Please suspend Illi and Rob for training. I have no proof, but in the words of lethdar, that's what I'm hearing.

[gloinz]

im sure the mob could not have possibly aggroed any of the half dozen level 20s standing around from the rival guild who took screenshots.

as i said bunch of retards, really am done annoying myself with the lamentations of the stupid this time.

edit: lol just realized fallen is the guy caught on video training the shit out of that group from last week. makes this whole ordeal even more ridiculous/hilarious.

let the try and get the other guild banned by catching them on video with a mob on them bullshit begin

id take real pvp with a couple trains here and there over this anyday of the week

[lethdar]

pretty sure my name is dropped because i was chasing rob back and forth across a zoneline, i finally landed a root, he gated i went back to xping.

done with this thread, your all a bunch of morons.

You're

[gloinz]

You're

got ninja edited brosky lol

[Diggles]

cant hide the truth, darwoth is a mouthbreathing windowlicker

[pickled_heretic]

cant hide the truth, darwoth is a mouthbreathing windowlicker

hi harrison

[Lovely]

Since I would never ever lie I can confirm that Fallen did not train on purpose in Lower Guk. He accidentally aggroed the Spider baws and try to get out but failed to do so and died.

[Xantille]

Your Hypocrisy is only out shown by your retardedness, kid.

What comes around goes around.

emphasis added (for 'retardedness')

[Nirgon]

Since I would never ever lie I can confirm that Fallen did not train on purpose in Lower Guk. He accidentally aggroed the Spider baws and try to get out but failed to do so and died.

Well intentional or not, I don't know if the rule applies to dying in an attempt to train people.

[Dfn]

Well intentional or not, I don't know if the rule applies to dying in an attempt to train people.

Training is ok if you die with the train? Done and done. Japan WWII tactics confirmed. 1 life for 6. Guk will not be safe.

[Juugox2]

i heard fallen needs a young doctor i mean those medical conditions may be worse then we thought

[karsten]

daefuin somehow making sense




my head asplode

[Dfn]

daefuin somehow making sense




my head asplode

Makin big plays on the message board during working hours. Are you playing R99?

[Mouse]

Not gonna go through 13 pages to find someone else posted this, but if not....




GMGE MUCH?!!!

[tsaC]

He trained purposely because you lose a ton more exp to mob than pvp

[LastBoss]

Dont go afk. That simple! you get mobs and pvp on your ass!

it take 30sec to logg out insted of loosing xp :P sucks, It sucks to be you brah live with it!

[Dfn]

He trained purposely because you lose a ton more exp to mob than pvp

Got proof? Did he say that? Caught on camera? No, so file it under the conspiracy section of the forum.

But seriously, you should lose more exp from pvp death. It's like 1/2 a percent right now. It's silly. It's not even enough to prevent bind rushing.

[purest]

Got proof? Did he say that? Caught on camera? No, so file it under the conspiracy section of the forum.

ya, to point out the blatantly obvious you're going to have video, two forms of government ID, a police officer there to verify the whole thing, four guides observing and taking notes, and the perpetrator's grandma to confirm his in-game identity.

[Combobreaker]

Holocaust confirmed tactic for pvp's

[Dfn]

ya, to point out the blatantly obvious you're going to have video, two forms of government ID, a police officer there to verify the whole thing, four guides observing and taking notes, and the perpetrator's grandma to confirm his in-game identity.

No SS no proof.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56156

[Envious]

Lol @ Holocaust crying about some one getting aggro while afk.

Real pros.

[Envious]

Does crying about Exp + Rez + aggro = blue?!

Fish Bait reddest guild on server?!

[Skyllus]

Meh, if darwoth did train em intentionaly, suspend em, but even if he was bragging about it, the gm wasnt there to "witness it" and it wasnt video recorded, so either way, he could be bragging about something he didnt even do, and just said he did for shits and giggles. But yeah Fallen shouldnt be reimbursed, that was just silly :D

[oldfish]

Awww fallen got karma'd for the train she pulled when we cleared holocaust out of Guk.

:(

[Smedy]

operation allow training is in full swing from the nazi horde

[Cwall]

as much of a faggot as darwoth is, will need some conclusive evidence that he casted ensnare on the mob as it was already trained on fallen and/or intentionally and knowingly trained him before i can jump on the "ban darwoth" bandwagon

if that can be proved, restore exp, otherwise, don't

i fell asleep at keyboard after a 24 hour red99 marathon after launch and i died a few times at my bind, didn't give a fuck because it was my fault for not closing EQ before i passed out, however, those were player deaths and not a case of chain-dying to a mob

btw i didn't read this whole thread

[Producer]

Didn't mean to stir the pot yall

'happy hunting' :)

[Titanuk]

Hidden Power

who woulda thought 11 years down the road Darwoth<Druids Empire> woulda finally accomplished some funnies in game.

round of applause

[Skyllus]

as much of a faggot as darwoth is, will need some conclusive evidence that he casted ensnare on the mob as it was already trained on fallen and/or intentionally and knowingly trained him before i can jump on the "ban darwoth" bandwagon

if that can be proved, restore exp, otherwise, don't

btw i didn't read this whole thread

I think if they can prove darwoth did intentionally train, then suspend darwoth, but Fallen was still at fault to and either way doesnt deserve to be Reimbursed, and this isnt a unbias opinion, its a pvp server, i have nothing against anyone in Holocaust whatsoever, its all in good fun, but Fallen did fuck up 1 way or another, and if u grant reimbursement to him for fucking up, as i said before, your going to have to do it for everyone.

[Truth]

karma what comes around goes around BITCH

[Unleashed]

I've lost at least two levels worth of exp from doing dumb stuff can I get it back too?

[fiegi]

did naez pass level 12 yet on this server. never seen him on any box past that.

or is he still a eq live pro in expansion # 285729587239532

[Cwall]

considering GMs exp rez you if you die to an intentional train, i'd expect the same here

[Shrubwise]

Eyes are watching how this issue is handled closely.

Word, yo?

[Skoochie]

rofl fail binder XD

[Tombom]

B FUCKING $

[Skoochie]

B FUCKING $

=]

[bobo2]

17 pages of pure shit , why bother ?

[Tombom]

My name is juliet!

[Skoochie]

haha you already know! i saw that video and was like THIS HAS TO BE MY SIG lol

[Knuckle]

Help I've Fallen and I can't get up :o